0:00 You got to stop that. I'm already recording.

0:05 How are you doing this morning? Good man. Good fucking. I took me so long to get out here. I dropped my fucking recorder, and I thought I lost one of the batteries, but it had both batteries in it. I thought there were three. Yep. That's funny. The problem with these things is that, you know, if the battery comes out, you lose the date and time.

0:26 So it doesn't name the files appropriately. Really? Yeah. So there's a bunch of files on mine I had to, like, figure out what the date was like off of one and then use the map. Do them. Do the math. No big deal. But it's more convenient when it puts the right date on the file. Yeah. No doubt not 2000 something.

0:43 Not when you got context. Yeah. So, today, I figured we'd talk about, Just something I've been thinking about is, you know, remember we talked about this idea of, like, what would we want for other people? Like. So, you know, I did lock the door. You think you did? I remember hearing, like, a quick I didn't I didn't I didn't see it, but I think I heard it.

1:07 All right, all right. Go ahead. Sorry. Well, we'll find out when we get back. When everything in your house is missing and there's people, new people living in there or nothing. Yeah. Damn. Sleeping. And there's a pregnant raccoon in the living room. Of course. Actively birthing.

1:27 Because, you know, it takes the opportunity of the warm, you know.

1:33 And it, like, doesn't even mind you, right? Yeah. It's finishes.

1:39 Just looks at you like you. We both know what this is.

1:44 Life will find a way.

1:48 You're not mad enough to actually, like, touch me so less you have a broom or something else in your hand? I'm completely safe. Damn. Anything is. It's not wrong. It's not wrong. I'm going to let it finish. I didn't mean to lead us to a gated dead end here. I didn't, I didn't know, I didn't know, no, no, I wanted to kind of head back to that Greenway.

2:09 That was kind of cool, man. If you want to call the Greenway.

2:15 We walked yesterday on that, like, you know. Oh, we can get back here. I've gone this. I've gone home this way. Okay, I'm saying we can go beyond that. I mean, it's your hood, man, I don't know, but anyway, so, my mind is I'm pregnant raccoon now, but, you know, we were talking about. And I totally think this is true.

2:36 I mean, because, you know, I, I've talked to a lot of people and much like, yeah, a lot of hazards this morning. Yeah. You know, so anyway, you know, I've talked to a lot of people about this, and I think this is universally true, that a overwhelming majority of people want to see others, you know, in good shape.

2:56 You know, like, I don't there's very few people that I've met, you know, that have, like, been so pessimistic that, you know, it doesn't bother them to see other people, like, be depraved or be, you know, it's very rare. Most people like, just naturally have the, you know, empathy and compassion and all that kind of stuff. Don't want to see homeless people, don't want to see people sick or hurting.

3:19 Right? Right. And, you know, take that a little bit further. I think, I believe I, I like basically know that it's true that an overwhelming majority of people don't want to see anybody hungry or right, sick, hurt, harm, otherwise in bad shape and suffering in some way. Yeah. In general, people don't like to see that. Yeah. Now, of course, you can learn to.

3:44 When it's something's omnipresent, you can get numb to it. Like, you know, you get to the point where you just walk by that homeless person and don't even see them. You're just absolutely jaded to the core. Yeah, there's, you know, I have a hard time with that. Like, I have a hard time, like getting to the point where I don't see the person.

4:01 Yeah, and I'm glad you do. I think that's a good thing. And that's kind of universal, too. Like, I have a hard time not seeing it no matter what the situation is. How you doing? Morning. And, you know, and I think that's typical. I think most people, you know, when they see that, they notice it and it they feel it in some degree.

4:24 Right? Like their empathy is triggered to some degree. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so whether or not somebody motivated to do something about it, they don't like it. Yeah. So I was thinking like if that's kind of the norm of society, you know, you know, shooting our laws match up. Shouldn't our society match up with the kind of beliefs and the sentiments of the people?

4:45 You know, you'd think that would just make logical sense, that over time the laws would kind of match up with that. And so you look and say, well, there are some things in place. Yeah, there's there's Social Security and Medicaid and, you know, homeless shelters, homeless shelters and charities and churches and all these things that have sprung up to kind of, you know, rise to the occasion of trying to offset some of this stuff.

5:07 Yeah. And they somewhat fill the gap, right? Yeah, they somewhat fill the gap. But I'm talking like, you know what I want? I would like to have universal guarantee that, you know, you have your security and you have you have food, clothing, shelter, security, all the basic security, all the basic needs of the human being are automatic universally across the planet.

5:25 You know, that's what I like to see. But I know I'm a dreamer. But, you know, that's what I'd like to see. But I would like to see the same thing. And I know we can provide it. That's kind of why I go on rants about billionaires, because, I mean, you know, the World Health Organization's correct. I mean, it wouldn't take much of their money to actually make a huge debt and not just make not just like fill the need, but also put in provisions to make sure it's sustainable, you know?

5:53 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's not like it's not like it has to be a black hole that we throw resources and money down it. We can fix it. It's a problem that can be fixed now. It requires sweeping changes throughout society and throughout the world. But it can be fixed. Yeah. And so you were saying also that, you know, you really kind of couldn't be a billionaire because you would see that need and you would just feel you, your heart would just have to react like, yeah, so you couldn't have that much money because, you know, after your needs were met, you would just part with it.

6:30 Yeah. To kind of offset human need. Yeah. Yeah. I mean really, you know, and I would do it wildly and efficiently and I would do it terribly, but I would try to do it. Fair enough. So, so again, like, so why doesn't full scale the needs of our.

6:53 Yeah, I don't know, it's like the world of loud vehicles for us. So strange. Like like like not an industrial zone, but it seems like we are. And the thing is, it's not normally this bad. It's like for us only. Yeah, yeah, it's like the people that that have that one cloud over their head, like, no matter where they go.

7:11 Yeah, that's us with like loud vehicles. We bring the loud vehicles with us. It's like they all have a GPS coordinates on us. And they're like, you know, they're over there over on Elon Street. Go get them. Yeah. They're talking some they get points. It's all gamified. Right, right. We're talking about disrupting the world as it is. The status quo must maintain.

7:36 Yeah they might have to having a listener someday that that agrees. You know we can't have that a single one with power and influence. Yeah. It's just the way sure. We go to this, like black belly of the abyss. Awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's, it is what one would definitely call darkness down this way. Yeah. So I'm, I'm sitting there thinking, like.

7:58 So why, like, why doesn't the the, the, the structure of our society laws, you know, like the way, you know, why doesn't that fit what really people want for other people. You know, why doesn't it just what doesn't just match that. Because it can't. Right. So why? And the reason it. The thing that came to mind is that if they did, let's just say tomorrow.

8:24 You know, whoever's in power, like, snaps their fingers or whatever, you know, Congress, all three, all three branches of government, like, align with the idea that, you know, we're going to have everyone's going to have access to food, clothing, shelter, water, healthcare, etc.. Right. The basic necessities, just like free public education is normal, is normal in our like we just take it for granted or it's guaranteed, right?

8:46 So that for all these other things I'm talking about, you know, food, clothing, shelter, water, like food, clothing, shelter, water, so many times it's like just rolls off my tongue now. But, you know, in healthcare, you know, let's just say and I got a couple more things, but just to keep it basic. Well, yeah, I mean, that would be a platform for us all to build upon.

9:06 That would raise the bottom. All boats would rise as one and the economy would definitely prosper once it got once the dust settled from that major change. Yeah. I mean, I would give it half a generation before things really started to crank out crank on. Yeah. And so like, I believe that when you invest in people that that's a solid investment to the future.

9:27 Like that's a solid investment in society as a solid investment in the in the wealth of the nation. Right. We invest in the people, not in the not in just a handful of people and not into enterprise. You put it in humanity and not these loans we could have given. I was ranting when they made those that they could have just given the money to people.

9:48 Oh, and oh, same thing with the housing crisis. Yeah. If they gave the if they gave the money to everyone, yeah. Then everyone would have been able to pay their mortgages and the companies would have been bailed out anyway. But you know, the, you know, you bet a lot of car maker give people money to buy cars.

10:03 Yeah. Seem like the kind of power brokers in that whole scenario. Like, kind of forced the hand of government they had, like, the economy, you know, like, held hostage. Yeah, yeah, that's what it felt like to me. It really did. And then they misappropriated it and fucked it up, then apologized for it, then fucked it up again.

10:21 Yeah. I mean, it's pretty clear if you just give open ended money to, you know, companies, what are they going to do with it? They're going to do what maximizes their return on that money, like they're going to maximize the benefits of the company of that money, the individuals who are in power at that company, like, which is what AIG and several other companies did.

10:38 Go on executive junkets, go, you know, give themselves bonuses. Yeah. So it turned out to be like a major reward for fucking up. Yeah. What's what's good this way. It's kind of cool, you know. And and it's even it even goes down to the individual executive level with the concept of golden parachutes. You know, it's kind of interesting, this idea that not just the two big to fail, but this idea that maybe the infrastructure is designed, that if in the event of like a major pedestrian, there's like a payout.

11:08 So like, yeah, major catastrophe is is almost a good thing. Right, right. It's definitely part of the pumping, you know, like the CEO of of Merrill Lynch at around that same time, completely fucked up, screwed up, didn't know what he was doing. Fucking terrible. And then got some kind of big bonus. Gets a golden parachute of, like $17 million.

11:29 Oh, that's that's kind of sad, but, you know, okay. So anyway, let's just say for argument's sake, you start to kind of point the power of society towards humanity's, let's just say Bergman. So it's pretty clear, like during World War Two when the veterans came home, when the doughboys came home, there was like all these ticker tape parade, you know, and and everyone was celebrating them as heroes, you know.

11:54 Yeah. You know, because we won the war and all this great stuff helped win the war. And, so they gave all these these people like G.I. Bill, that was that was that worked. You know, the GI Bill was more than paid for college. It was enough to like, get a mortgage, even for a lot of people, which is amazing, right?

12:10 And, you know, if they had kept the money at the same level, it would be totally worth it now to be in the military. Yeah. You can come out, get college and a mortgage. Yeah, right. I mean, set you up for entry into the middle class? Yes. You know, after that service, I mean, sounds like a pretty decent thing to do for veterans, especially combat veterans.

12:28 Exactly. You know, because they have some other things maybe to deal with. Well, yeah. You want to give them all into a decent life where, you know, they can they have the room to deal with the rest of the trauma, the craziness. And from what I understand, you know, the, the, the math, when you do the long term math on that investment in those people, it translated into incredible wealth for the nation.

12:50 Like it was a great investment. Well yeah. The government saw the return on that investment multiple fold. Do you think about all the people that came back and started businesses all the way from World War Two through Vietnam? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And, you know, had the cash in pocket to continue on with what they wanted to do and go to college to that set up their education and everything.

13:11 I've had several bosses who were Vietnam vets and their reason, and I asked all of them what was the what was the impetus? What was the. What was the driving force and what allowed you to do it? Right. Yeah. And they were like, well, money I got back I money I got during combat pay as well as the money I got the GI Bill.

13:35 And then I had that drive because I was in the military. That's awesome. You know, that's that's like, you know, sounds the way it should be. Yeah. Just sounds like. It just sounds right. Yeah. You know, and so, again, that's like an example of investment in people and, you know, that that translates into a boon to the economy down the road, right downstream, downstream positive effects.

13:59 And so, you know, I'm still thinking like, so why, you know, don't doesn't the law right now in 2022 match the sentiments of the people as far as like our, our want to take care of each other and you know all that. I personally go back to what we just mentioned about the companies that coerced the government into thinking they needed to bail out.

14:23 I'm going to put the onus of responsibility squarely upon their cultures. I see. So these industrial complexes are what grinds the the interests away from the people to these smaller to these, you know, small interests, special interests, you know, and I think we might feel the same way to a degree. But yeah, that's ultimately what I blame. If I was to storm the Bastille, so to speak.

14:46 That's where I would head. Yeah. Like find a way to basically ban industrial complexes, you know, of all kinds, or at least do what happened to Big Tobacco quite a few years ago and loosen their grip on society a bit? Yeah, the big Tobacco is an interesting case because that's the reason, I guess that became an easy target was because it just became undeniable that smoking was horrible for you.

15:12 Right? You know, the more doctors smoke x, y, z cigarette doesn't work anymore. You know, just because the science, you know, was so, so convincing. And so then tobacco became an easy target. Well, the food industry is no is just where it all went to. I mean, Philip Morris bought Kraft. Yeah. You know, it's not a coincidence, right.

15:31 And you know how they do that instead of being like, hey, let's move to the new product. That's not anyway, that's a whole nother topic. Well, okay. They saw the same opportunity. Another vice. Yeah. And really that's what it is. It's trafficking in these things that have us, you know, bound. They're just naturally addictive qualities to them. Yeah, right.

15:54 Like there's receptors in the brain for nicotine, you know. So just like the opioids are doing now there's receptors in the brain for opioids. Yep. Anything that's got that INE complex, you know, chain on it seems to have a hook in the brain. Yeah. And you know.

16:13 Then there's the, the dope had nostalgia, the, you know, all these societal things. Making it easier to buy a art at Walmart. You can buy a box of macaroni and cheese for $0.34, and that's just fucking outrageously terrible for your health. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. You throw a stick of butter in it, have a stick of butter or whatever it calls for, then it tastes good.

16:39 And the milk and then that whatever emulsified shit they tried to call cheese, you know, tastes fucking good, but unfortunately. Unfortunately. Yeah. I mean, so, of course people that are on a budget are gonna notice that and say, oh, okay, we can have that thing. Yeah, yeah. Or and then we can have back and cheese every other night.

16:58 Yeah, yeah. And we can have, we can have four boxes. Yeah, yeah. A box for every person in the family, you know, get everybody full. Yeah. That's what people are looking at. Not did they get nutrition. Are they full. Yeah. And then and then the the downstream consequences of that are amazing. Like massive you know, the diabetes the attenuating yourself with the that type of food.

17:21 Right, right. I mean I've met money. Many people who that's like their taste, that's their nostalgia. That's like they're like that's that's home cooking. Yeah. So people are genuinely people no matter where you go. So like, you know, you go, so you go to India, let's say, and you know, they're eating these foods that a lot of us would have no taste for, like, you know, which would be like, no, it doesn't taste good to me, right?

17:45 Like, a lot of the foods do taste good, but a lot of the others like the really high spice ones and stuff. Sure. We're like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And, you know, when you're, when you're in that society and you grow up and that's the food, that's what you body attenuates too. Yeah. And then if you go live in another country you still seek out your, your traditional foods.

18:06 Yeah. Like my buddy said to you, he's from India. Like dirt poor India like the real idea, right? Like riding his bike to the next town over to steal mangoes. To eat. Yeah, right. Right, right. You know. Yep. And, you know, he's now, now in it, you know, and handles, to send money home. Proxies. Yeah.

18:36 Yes. Remittances are a big deal. And that but, he makes a ton of cash he had to pay for, you know, certain things in their culture, like his nephews had to have this ceremony where they get all this gold bestowed upon them, get a golden ear ring. Oh, yeah. Yeah. All of these things basically to celebrate their birth.

19:00 Yeah. Then you have to do it by the time they're eight years old. He said he had to save up money for years just to make that happen. Twice. Oh, wow. It's cool custom now. Yeah, I kind of have this not necessarily coming of age but just this point and, you know, milestone, you know, celebrating a particular event.

19:19 That's kind of cool. Yeah. It is. It's really neat. But you know, it's he all the time is seeking out, like you were saying, Indian food Indian culture. Because that's what you're naturally accustomed to. Yeah. And so when you know it's a mac and cheese three nights a week, macaroni and cheese for the rest of your life.

19:36 Yeah. That's possible. And then comes the diabetes and comes the devastation to your health. And because the only reason I even know the mac and cheese is $0.34 is because I was reading an article the other day where some asshole was trying to find the top mac and cheese. Gotcha. What do you know? The 34 box one? Yeah, well, you know, I mean, you can find a way to make cars run on mac and cheese because $4.20 gas.

20:04 You know, if we can just pour some macaroni in 30s box and mac and cheese in there and go ten miles or good to go bad, you know, probably the cheese itself is enough to I'm sure the it's like the back to the future reactor in the back of the car. Throw some garbage in there and yeah, we'll just have time.

20:24 We can have some kind of.

20:27 Each Walmart connect to chief. Brilliant, brilliant. You'll be the next billionaire and make that shit, you know? So, anyway, back to, kind of had a thought I wanted to get out. Oh, sorry. No, no, no, it's what we do. That's what makes our conversation interesting. You don't know where the hell they might go. Right. But,

20:49 Anyway, so this idea of, You know what? If. What if we flip the switch? Right. So, like that person. That person, you know, every everybody. Everybody. Right? We just do Oprah, and everybody gets everything. Health care for you and health care for you and health care for you. Right. So I'm thinking. You know, boom. What if we did that?

21:12 Bam! Tomorrow? Done. Right. And, just who cares to go into deficit to pay? It doesn't matter. We're paying it. Yep. It's there for everybody. Right. Well, I think I think I know why. And that is, the reality, the truth behind how sick our country really is. Both physically and mentally, would absolutely overwhelm our society. Like, our society would basically have no chance to ever come out of that hole because we'd be so bankrupt.

21:43 Wow. Right. And so I think that's it. I think that's it. So we would rather pay into this military industrial complex and have, you know, massive percentage of the budget go to military to remain to remain, you know, get that power position. I'm sure it doesn't hurt when you when you go to any negotiating table like we could annihilate you.

22:03 Yeah. We are the only superpower left in the world, right? And so I, I don't think it I don't think it hurts at the negotiating table, no matter what you're negotiating for. Right. Now. To have behind you the largest, the only superpower in the world. Right? Yeah. So if you're going to hedge your bets. Right. Put money into that and you know your ass is covered.

22:25 Yeah. Walks off, carry a big stick type of thing. But that big stick when it's like the Green Giant dick, you know, and everyone else has a twig, you know, it's pretty clear what could happen. Yeah. You know, if we decide we're just going to, you know, label you a terrorist and you're doomed and you're fucked. Right. So that military, that military expenditure that basically allows us to leverage the whole world, keep the dollar as the world currency, all those kind of, you know, embedded infrastructure that comes with that is like the cream is what makes America, secured in its cash flow, if you will.

23:04 Yeah. Right. So it allows the corporations to operate. Right. And so the truth is, when you invest in people, if you if you turn America into a superstructure of, you know, incredibly enlightened by doing well, how are you saying I'll have a good day? Now you say, man. You know, so so you had this society until like, intelligent, happy, secured people, you know, that, that work because they want to.

23:33 Because they feel like the work is worth doing, you know, something that worth doing with their time? Yeah. And you kind of, like, enlighten and enable a society. The future returns on that investment would be uncountable. They are. But then. But they're not the short term. That's what I'm getting at. Yes. And you're getting it. We'd have to do something similar to what we did with some big tobacco.

23:54 We'd have to admit collectively, yes, things were messed up and they needed to change. Yes, exactly. That's that's a big thing. Like, you know, in America, is it the best country on all fronts? Right? It's like acknowledgment is the first. Right? Like admitting the problem is the first step, I think. Yeah, that's kind of what you're saying.

24:12 Yeah. You know, and so until you realize the problem. So so basically, you know, if our emperor, you know, you know, if I somehow calling the shots and for Trump, I wouldn't I wouldn't change everything immediately. 2024, that'd be just too shocking, right? Like to be too shocking to change it? Right. Like snap. Change it. Sure. So. But put it on a really aggressive plan of transformation.

24:36 Right. Let people know this is a direction you're headed. Yes. And you're doing it starting today, we're we're switching our priorities of our nation from a global super military superpower to a humanity. And if this were humanity superpower, if this for China, you could. Yeah. There you go. We're we're transforming into a global humanity superpower, not a global military superpower.

25:01 Well, you got to look at we're going to be the first humanity superpower. What do we have the most resources of, you know, what do we have the most of? We have the most people. So why wouldn't we take care of the people? Right? Yeah. We don't have the most people trying to saying.

25:23 In the world, if we're looking at, you know, how does the United States have the most people? Not not the United States, talking about people in general here, like governments? Oh, okay. You have a lot of. Oh, I'm here to everything else I see I see you have a shit ton of people. Yeah. Right. So yeah. So if you go back to the human resources idea, you have human resources, you have a certain amount of uranium, nickel, coal, you know, all these things in your in your body and forests dwarfed by the number of people.

25:53 Sure. I see the same. Yeah. So the human capital is the largest capital you have. Yeah. So why not preserve and extend that? Right, right. Because that's going to be inevitably the future, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I think the reason why, though, the United States doesn't just say, you know what, universal healthcare makes sense.

26:14 Loud noises. I think the reason that it doesn't happen like it slowly is like moving in that direction. The reason universal health care doesn't happen, it is because we would hit a tsunami of what would be revealed is how ill people really are if they all of a sudden are in the system. So we need a bunch of sick people that aren't in the system offsetting the current system, otherwise the system would be overwhelmed.

26:39 You saw that with Covid, well, system was over in some places. We are in the throes of dealing with Covid and it's after effects. Okay, move beyond that. What if every person all of a sudden like, shows up at their local family physician? Okay, first of all, obtains a family physician, right? Right. And then, I don't care.

26:58 It just shows up at the urgent care. Yeah, right. Tomorrow, you know, and they're every single person as basic blood screening. Done. Do you know what that's going to reveal in our country? Like, do you know how many people all of a sudden will be now registered diabetics? How many people all these how many sicknesses you're going to uncover, right.

27:18 Because it's going to run the gamut. Everything from cancer to oh my God, you know, you've got gallbladder issues, right? And so with poor people, what happens is they don't wash up on shore with the illness because of the cost, right? That the cost of the healthcare that they're going to face, even if it's copay, is so much it deters them from utilizing the healthcare.

27:39 Right. And so it's a deterrent because if all of a sudden tomorrow, everyone had full coverage, everyone would go see the doctor. Yeah. Why would you not? Or at least a good portion of people would yell, I think I'm the overall majority of people that currently have expensive or limited or no health care. If tomorrow you said, hey, anyone that wants to, you can go see the doctor free of charge.

28:02 You'd have a tsunami of people showing up. You have a lot of people staying out of work and it'd be like a massive strike, right? And then all of a sudden we'd find out that, my gosh, the new, the, you know, 40% of our country is nutrition deprived, like, has a nutrient deficiency. You know, 30% of our country is diabetic, like full, full diabetic.

28:24 And then there's another 20 that's pre-diabetic. You know, we can't have that. Okay. Now the the new chant, the new champion of telephone pole. Jesus. We have to take a picture of this and put it with the podcast. Yeah. Like put a, put a ruler up to show like. Yeah. And get like one of those flexible tape measures for measuring girth.

28:45 That's massive. Massive. Yeah. It's the girth is the size of my fucking forearm. Right. Wait, what? Yeah.

29:00 So I think that's the reason, Sean, I think that, you know, the reason that our policy, if you will, or government regulations, laws don't line up with what people want is because of that reason, because the price tag would reveal the reality of the situation. Right. And so we're so good at pretending on our reality, they're just going to say that we're so good at pretending, you know, there's just another thing.

29:25 We have our head in the sand about, you know, and so how do you fix this? This has to be there is no way to fix this as far as like because of the industrial complexes that clearly now have been entrenched for close to 100 years. Right? Are not letting their grip go anytime soon. In fact, they just keep intensifying, right?

29:44 So it has to start at the grassroots, has to start with community involvement, community engagement. You have to find a way to transform community by community. The waistline of America, if you want to call it that, community by community, and you have to do it not for country or for government or for God. You have to do it for people, for the health and wellness of people.

30:05 Because, okay, what will be ever more enduring when you look at those God country or people, people 100% human beings are going to persist. That's right. They have children. Their children have children, and we want those children to the children's children philosophies will change. The driving forces behind them will change. You know they will change. Morality will change.

30:31 Yes. All of it. All of it is in a constant state of flux. You can't pin it down. And arguably you shouldn't. It's just naturally is it? It naturally can't be pinned down. Yeah. History shows how clearly it all changes over time. Right. So yeah. So the fact, the truth is that we need some kind of way, some person literally like a civilian leader to rise up and say, look, people, we have to do it for ourselves, you know?

31:02 But again, they have to be willing to assume a cult of personality here and say, this idea is bigger than me. We are building structures. We're building things in place to manage this, to perpetuate it. You know, it can't. It can't be centered around Johnny Appleseed. Right. There you go. Sure. And how? I don't know how this is.

31:25 This is attainable. But I want to see something happen because, you know, by God, do we ever need it? Yeah. It just be so cool for this, like, counterculture to emerge where, you know, I don't know how quickly it would be labeled coal and how skeptical people are because people don't join organizations anymore like they used to write, you know, like, don't join the Rotary Club, you don't join the Lions Club, you know, and all all these clubs are waning because of that.

31:56 You know, church is no different. Church is waning over time. It's clear the youth have no interest. Right? You know, in fact, like everything, every everything that involves collectivism and group ism in the United States is waning. And that's might be good for profits, but it's terrible for people. Yes. You. No. The problem is, is that, you know, you're getting some one of these groups and you get pounced on, like, you know, people want to be able to consume groups on the periphery without feeling like, you know, there's no union dues, if you will.

32:26 Right. You know, and you don't get pounced on ideologically. Right. Then talking about that group, that Christian group, they want to have Bible study like six times a week and all. Yeah, yeah. Pounced on you. Right? Right. Well, they pounced on me, but they pounced on me in a way to that. They tried to exclude other things which were clearly important in my life.

32:47 Like I'm paying to go to school. That should be one of my top roadies. Right. Right, right right, right. So they would say going into debt for this, you know. Yeah. And so they would say, yeah, that's not important. Top priorities Jesus. Yeah. Your top priority is being in this room that you'll only be in for a limited amount of time because of the fact that you're not focusing on school.

33:10 So you're going to be out of this school soon anyway. So you think if they wanted to maintain that grassroots community they built at USC, they would encourage people in school so they'd stand there longer so they would skew the shit longer? Yeah, man, I would love to do. I would love to do some kind of basic study.

33:30 It probably has been done. It's probably the it was not aware of it, but I'd love to do a basic study of just like canvass the neighborhood, you know, tell everybody, look, you're going to get 50 bucks to participate or whatever. You gotta get some kind of reward for cessation. And we participate in this thing. We're going to basically get a scorecard for you on your health and wellness that you have access to.

33:50 Yeah, that you can data is 100% transparent for yourself. Sure, sure. So, you know, it's not like we take your data in the run and we don't sell it, and we're not going to sell it. Right? It's just a study. And what we're going to do is we're going to track these metrics over six months or a year.

34:05 A year is more realistic. And we're going to basically let you see a chart of your progress as far as like changing your overall health disposition. Yeah. And here's how we're going to do it. We're going to go about it this way. You spell it out perfectly clear, you know, and then you get these people like to start to see a transformation within themselves.

34:24 Right. Plus have a link to community like, you know, like maybe you have a forum there where people can talk about things. Yeah. Like what we're doing, you know, just you and I, we're walking, we're friends. We get to spend time together, you know, we're walking. We're doing a podcast now on top of that, for fun. Yeah, yeah.

34:41 You know, but, you know, we're trying to get our health in, right? By walking a few miles a day, right? And so, you know, that kind of thing. And this is a community, like, I look forward every day to seeing you and, you know. Oh, yeah, man. To doing this because it's it's good for me across the board.

34:58 Yeah. I have someone to talk to you about. Going gets the mind going. And, you know, I'm staying off deep vein thrombosis from the 20 hours a day I sit in the chair, you know? Shit. So DVT be gone. It's just very well. Could be like, the reason I'm still alive, you know?

35:19 Oh that's wonderful. You know, and so, like, just take that to a higher level. I'm not saying like a bunch of people get together walking that a podcast I'm talking about like, you know, at the local park at six, 6 a.m., you have 25 people. Yeah. And those 25 people make a commitment to supporting each other and encouraging each other, right, to improve their health.

35:39 And you have specialists come in that that can help do like small seminars on diet, you know, just basics, the basics, you know, and you use that to springboard this new kind of counterculture. I really feel like it needs to start at the bottom of the socio economic ladder. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you do it in the ghetto, for lack of a better term.

35:59 Yeah, I don't think that's a very useful term these days. I think it's in that outmoded term ghetto. I'm sure it's outmoded. Pejorative. Sounds that way to me. Yeah. But regardless, it's a shortcut for a lot of the things we're talking about. Yeah. So. So if I just go and say, in general, you know, the reason why there's not universal health care is because we have a lot of poor people in this country that are very unhealthy.

36:24 We just walked by a minute ago, a whole bunch of them. Yeah. You see the you see the, the like how massive there is of the people we walked by was had to be like 40 BMI or 40 VMI or higher. And the average dude was five, six and 300 pounds. Dude, the amount of suffering that those people are either enduring right now or are going to be enduring the future of the guys we saw was walking with a cane.

36:50 There you go, there you go. So this is like dialysis from, you know, kidney disease or later I'm not even. There is also a predominant culture there that we saw. There was you know and you know, it just it goes more along with it goes more along with socioeconomic status. And it does any kind of like quote unquote race or it does.

37:09 Yeah. It really socioeconomic status combined with your like my culture is the same as theirs as far as food. The one I grew up in, I'm a southern food. Fatty stuff, cheap stuff, you know. And it was it's stuff that if you eat constantly, you were going to. You're not going to be in great shame. Yeah. So, like, just think of cheese, for example.

37:39 Like when I was a kid, literally, I think my dad was like selling wheat and would take pretty much anything as payment. Oh, shit. So I think like at one point, you know, we had these like two big bricks of government cheese that somebody gave for like a dime bag or something. Yeah. And, you know, but but like, cheese in general, you know, number one, socialist fat and American diet.

38:02 No offense. No offense to you. I go into your fridge right now, I get into you, you will find three blocks of cheese. I rest my case. Right. So, I had some cheese last night. Like, I'm pretty good at finding their way back home, aren't we? Yeah, yeah. And, Yeah. So there you have it. Right. And so you've been attenuated through your childhood and through your experience and the typical culture of the American diet, to think that, like, cheese is a valid source of food, but it's absolutely not.

38:30 It's like saturated fat, very little nutrition, you know, etc.. Horrific for your body. Okay. It's basically veins. Not yeah. Nice. You want to call your arteries you know throw some cheese in there. Yum. Well you know yum. But maybe you can start to not think of it that way right. You can start to think of it as disgusting.

38:50 Yeah. Like, do you realize that, like, milk and cheese has a certain amount of pus that's allowed in it from the animal? Yeah, yeah. You like cheese now? How's that sound? It's just like pasta sauce. There's so much rat poop allowed in Kandahar. I don't know, man. Like like county pus is a little like. I don't think I'd rather eat raptor.

39:13 Yeah. I mean, because at least it's, like, boiled and homogenized. So it's the milk. The milk is homogenized in process. Yeah, you're probably right. Right. Okay, so how about this? Both rat turd and pus is fucking horrifically. I mean, their gross. How about that? Gross. Yeah. Let's put them on the same plane. They're both really nasty. And,

39:32 Yeah. So, like, not eating cheese and not eating pasta sauce is probably a good idea for me. Yeah, probably. My waistline would definitely improve, right? Summer was sending me a picture of how much sugar is in typical pasta sauce. Yeah, and it's like, stupid, right? Yeah. 2 or 3 cups and some of them for a jar. I don't know what it is for me, man.

39:53 That high fructose corn sirup fucked me up. Does it really? Yep. I, I, I learned like last year around October ish, we're in the car and I like my daughter had some Skittles and she was like, hey, dad, you want something? I was like, sure. And it took like 5 or 6, okay, just a little handful. And I felt like my cheeks red, like almost instantly.

40:14 Oh, Jesus. And it was like, wait a minute. And like, I started to feel like kind of unwell, like throughout my body, like this instant kind of feeling of malaise. Yeah. It was like, wait, I just never connected it before. What's what are the what's the ingredients in these things? I die number 40, right, 100% high fructose corn sirup.

40:34 Oh, yeah. You know, and so I started to, like, just test my body. I started to, you know, pay attention to how I feel after I eat different things and realize that, oh, my God, just box me up. It's just not your body's not happy with it. Yeah. Like bad. It's bad. I'm particularly sensitive to it. And so,

40:55 That's interesting. Then I tried it out with, like, cane sugar, you know, type thing. Yeah. And then white sugar and also, like, raw sugar. Come to find out, like, the raw sugar has almost no effect on me. Negative. Okay. And the white sugar has, like a little bit of a bad feeling. Sugar. Yeah. Like the white process. You know, bleach sugar would have been right.

41:15 Right. But like if you were to drink soda that was pure cane sugar from Mexico. Yeah. I can't drink it. You can't drink it either. Know that because it's so much. Okay. That makes me feel kind of sick. Okay. But if I take, like, a spoonful, if you will, of, like, if I were to put a spoonful of Karo corn sirup in my coffee.

41:32 Right. I just feel like wanting to fall asleep, you know, from, like, this diabetic situation. The body hates it. Yeah. Not to put like personal medical things on the, on a recording, but, I've been working with endocrinologists. I might have some kind of unique genetic thing that has me as like a what looks like type two diabetes, but it's type one.

41:52 Really? That's interesting. Maybe taking insulin shots. Interesting. Well, at least you're with an endocrinologist to figure it out. Yeah. Because, you know, diet, exercise, all these things, it's like a garage that's not quite as much. That isn't good. That is weird. So, Yeah, come to find out, I have something really unique going on. Which makes sense, because giving my lifestyle and my diet and all that, there's no way I should be high sugar.

42:17 Yeah. You know, seriously, there's, like, doesn't make any sense. Right? And, so we're starting to figure it out. I did a special run of labs and all that. So hopefully within six months or so it'll be under control finally, like, yeah. And my health can start to make a big improvement there. Yeah. But it's like yeah it's it's it's nothing to do with my, my choices and habits and lifestyle, you know.

42:44 Yeah. Okay. So I'm 20 pounds overweight but not like shouldn't be in the, you know, ridiculously high sugar category right now sticking my finger. And it's like practically in tears because I'm like, I can't I can't understand this shit. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah. You know, how the hell would it be this high? I haven't eaten anything.

43:01 Right? Yeah. And, you know, come to find out, you know, it's some kind of weird, unique thing. Exactly like with my family. Try high triglycerides, just fats in the blood. And so they got to go back to talking about cheese. Well, what I'm saying is, like, okay, so, like, my grandmother is on a restricted diet that doesn't have a lot of the triggers that normally cause people high.

43:30 Sure. Yeah. I hear you saying same, same situation. Yeah. Different process. And, you know, the idea is it's genetic. Sure. And, you know, I've managed to.

43:45 For a time when I was eating mostly salads and lean proteins, I managed to get out from under its. But I'm inching up back again. And it's just, you know, it's diet. It's exercise. It's it's those things that I really have to pay attention to and I guess.

44:06 Even more so than, you know, normal person would. And I guess you're in that same situation. Yeah. So, yeah, I have all kinds of strange. Yeah, I have all kinds of strange, like, blood gas readings and stuff from, like, now what's being revealed as a series of unique and complex? Yeah. These things. Exactly. And, you know, I'm totally willing to go on any particular diet and not a problem.

44:33 Yeah, as long as it makes sense. Better if I'm here for my kids and I'm not falling asleep all day every time I eat a meal and you know everything else, I'm. I'm all for it, you know? Really? You just go into a coma almost. Sometimes you ate. Depends on the food, right? Yeah. So how high the glycemic index was of the food?

44:53 Yeah. Believe it or not. Kind of. Yeah, but. But it's not just the glycemic index. The types of foods as well that I'm starting to learn. But, you know, I'll figure out what this endocrinologist, diet and dietitian see, which is nice. I have access to healthcare to help me with that. Yeah. Otherwise, I'd just live with just a health care and the knowledge of the medical system.

45:15 Know what I'm talking about. You put now all these patients into the system, right? That all have complex or even more complex situations than I'm even facing. Right. You know, we have like a health care through employer type thing, right?

45:30 We have, you know, a couple thousand dollars a year for the whole family that we had to pay out in co-pays. Yep. You know, but once that's done, the whole entire family health is taken care of. Yeah. So that's that's like godson, you know. Absolutely. Then to not have that and so, you know, all the school physicals the kids really perfectly healthy.

45:52 But you know, as soon as I age we have all these little issues. We have to dental and freaking, you know, you name it. Oh yeah. And with these complex health situations, it gets expensive pretty quick. Yeah. You know. But so and see, that's why I get back to is I want that for everybody. Yeah. I want anybody that's sick.

46:12 You know, anyone that doesn't feel good and anyone that's sick in any way to not feel like that's just what has to happen. Yeah. And not just be able to swallow a pill, but to, like, have a method of pathway to change their lifestyle, you know, to one where they can actually be healthy and well and have energy and be productive.

46:30 You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Rowdy. Wow. I haven't seen a rabbit for months. All these cats are out. It makes sense. Yeah. So, you know, I think that's the reason. Kind of summary of another bunny. Funny. From what I understand, they can multiply pretty quick. Oh, yeah. Maybe we come by here in another month and there's about 5000.

46:57 Colloquialism. Fucking like rabbits. Yeah. Multiplying like rabbit. Yeah. So my conclusion, you know, of all this is, you know, that's the reason why to maintain this global superpower, there's just the money has to be allocated to, prop up the wealthy, you know, to continue to allow incredible wealth without taxation, you know, allow mega corporations to continue to have their advantages, their corporate welfare.

47:24 So between corporate welfare, military industrial complex, the incredibly massive superpower military we have, there's just not enough money left to say, okay, people, you can all have healthcare, right? You can all have shelter, you can all have food, you can all have clean water, guaranteed. You know, it's been a staple of sci fi for a lot of years that, you know, corporations are going to, in essence, run the world.

47:48 They already do. Well, they're they're there. They are government, they're quasi. They're one and the same. Yeah. That's why they're called a complex because together they're complex infrastructure that represents that thing. And in essence, so many companies now, if they had a standing army, would be far more powerful than the great many countries, 100%. In fact, some of the things that have been revealed are people doing some really, quality investigative journalism have uncovered incredible dialog, things that some companies have done, especially in the third world.

48:24 You know, like taking all the water for a Coca Cola factory and wow all kinds of. Yeah. Noam Chomsky points out a lot of that shit and it's just a moral abomination. You know what some of our global global companies that are, you know, basically American based, right, or least originated in America. Yes. Have done and are doing.

48:46 I think that's the key originated. Yeah. They're certainly not based here anymore. Yeah. They have like. Sure. The Cayman Islands, you know, headquarters and Coca-Cola headquarters in any fucking business in the game. Right? Coca-Cola makes most of their sirup in Ireland due to it being a tax haven for them. There you go. It's all clever businessmen figuring out how to not pay taxes.

49:10 Yep. Which which, again, is like an extension of government. So it's this quasi, you know, relationship that's a complex that is one and the same. And so if you start looking at major corporations and big business in general as a part of government, it all starts to get clear. That's what they actually are. They write the policy.

49:30 I mean, the lobbyists, you know, I'm still to this day policy. I'm still stunned to this day when Sue showed me a press release when UTC aerospace, when she was working there, they, had this internal memo kind of press releasing saying, hey, we're bringing on such and such some named guy, some guy, right? We're bringing this person on board and here's what they're going to do for the company.

49:56 They started to talk about what this guy is going to do for the company. He's going to be a lobbyist and he's going to write policy. Like they didn't say anything about work towards trying to make policy that was advantageous for our company or anything like that, right? They literally said that this guy is going to write policy.

50:13 Yeah. Like make the policy. Yeah. And, my not after my jaw hit the floor. I'm like a little light bulb went on. I was like, okay, I see it. It's like you guys said the quiet part out loud. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, can you just say that? And it's gotten to the point where they can, like, there's no reason to not say it now.

50:34 It's just normalized. Yeah. You know, these industrial complexes and, that's a that's a shame. You know, it is. So we need a human industrial complex is what we need. You know, human industrial complex, a society that's engineered to work specifically for human beings. You know, I get it. Yeah, that's that's kind of what our talks are about.

50:56 Like, how do we how do we start to what ideas might we have? And, you know, who knows, maybe I should say that, but. Yeah. So it's interesting if you you know have this like podcast and maybe you know we talk something like this and that strikes a vein with a person maybe you know like kind of like sparks the imagination.

51:19 And that person goes on to like start doing something, just be incredible and make all this shit worth it. Yeah, it's worth it anyway. But I mean, you know. Right. But it would someday it would be back from someone like, yeah, I heard your podcast and you said that one thing, and it just really resonated with me. Yeah.

51:33 Rocketed me off, and this is what I'm doing now. That'd be so fucking cool. Moving the needle. Yeah. And, hopefully as we go forward and talk more in detail about some of the stuff that we've done our in our lives that hopefully will serve some inspiration. Maybe so, or maybe people just laugh at it. I mean, you know, which is which is both.

51:52 Okay. If we can if we can spread some mirth and joy, I feel like that's good to. Yeah. And if we're just entertaining, you know, that's okay too. Yep. Whatever. Yeah. If you'll if somebody has smart. Yeah. That's right. And it like just gave them a little bit of boost that day. Yeah. Or you know, give someone like a rally crier or there's that spirit of like, yeah, you know.

52:17 Cool. Awesome. Accomplished something? Fuck, yeah. We're not. There's always the camera. Nice. There's always the or not, you know, reality.

52:32 Cool. All right, man.