0:00 You can recall that I don't care. Oh, I sometimes, you know, get to be sensitive. Sometimes people think certain things are personal. Oh, no, it doesn't matter to me. Are there anything would be in that category for me unless I had look at STD or something. So I'll go ahead and pause the record.

0:22 So so so okay, I have no new CD. Get it right. Well, I had a link in the description. Yeah, to the list to your blog about it. Right? Yeah, yeah.

0:37 That's funny. So, you know, there's there's a really crazy option. Get a cat. Oh, no, I thought about that. I was thinking about hitting up Cassandra for when I heard feral cats. Yeah. Problem solved. Maybe they won. It's like, well, there's at least three different kinds of animals. Maybe I get three kinds of cats. So, when I was when I was in the airborne, barracks, he's.

1:04 A bunch of guys were going crazy. They'd just gotten access to the roof, and the roof was about. I think it was four floors. Oh, shit. In this building. So they got access to the roof. So, you know, four floors pretty high. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, high enough to, like, if you fall down, you're trouble. Yeah.

1:22 I mean, second floor fall. Most people would be okay. You kind of half ass jump out of it, ending hiring that. So he has this one. One dude had gotten a one young kid, you know, basically calling kids. He said. But, you know, one young guy got Ahold of a rat that was that was stuck to a glue trap.

1:42 Right. And, so he had had the great idea to make him turn him into a paratrooper. Oh. And so with a with a shopping bag and some string. Yeah, right. And some made a parachute, made a parachute, took a marker and painted jump boots on him. Oh, she said Blackfeet. Right. Damn. And on these squealing hole times, like, you know, torturing this this, like, living creature.

2:09 Oh, my God, that's horrible. They it somehow had access to the rooftop. So they kept bringing it up to the roof and and letting it jump get his earning his wings right. Getting a jump in the wings. Oh my God. So more things survive. Multiple four, four storey falls. Oh, it survived many, many falls. And they kept doing it over and over.

2:28 Right. Like he's going to earn his wings, you know, blah blah. So this is the most hilarious thing they've got to do. Yeah. Like this rat would, like, have so prefer a cat. Get it. And then these these guys. Right. Yeah. So, I don't know. Probably somewhere around 15, 20 times. Holy shit of jumping this thing. Oh my God.

2:46 The word is on the street is getting out that they're doing this something crazy, right? So there's plenty of people spectating this now and laughing and carrying on and making all these jokes, but, like, you know, you name it. Oh, mean. Sure. Right. Calling him a foreign jumper, you know, because they do these crossover things to where, like, someone from Romania would come some, some, some group from Romania would come and get their American jump wings.

3:10 Yeah. And then the and then some of our guys would go over to Romania and get Romanian jump. And that was like really prestigious. And so, you know, they were talking about him being from Mexico and, you know, all kinds of stupid shit, you know, carrying on, laughing their asses off the entertainment value from a fucking rat. Right, right, right.

3:29 I mean, it boosted morale like a motherfucker. Yeah. Right. So the person that was on charge, like, basically on guard duty with barracks, just didn't even do anything. Just let it go on. Well, yeah. You know. So anyway. Finally, after all the commotion, they could be doing a lot worse than that. Oh, for sure, you know. Yeah.

3:48 Yeah. Right. I mean, if I was on guard, do I be like, fuck it, they're having fun. They're not killing anything. All right, except for a rat, which we were going to kill anyway. Well, so finally, the the word got to the first sergeant. The first sergeant came out to see what the commotion was, and he wasn't really to care.

4:03 To care too much about the rat. Yeah. Or mouse. But it was like it was. He cared about the fact they had access to the roof because they weren't supposed to be up by the roof. Oh, shit. Okay. Right. So, like, normally that thing is, is locked up in ball one. So we have somebody picked a lock or got a key or somehow got it open.

4:19 Yeah. And, so that part of it was what got these people in trouble. So for punishment, to punish the all the offenders that were like, kind of like got caught red handed doing this up on the roof and with the mouse or whatever. He made these guys get their full dress regalia. Oh, right. And do a full, full service for the fallen paratrooper, aka the mouse.

4:50 It's funny as hell. That is funny. It's fun. So the. So the dead mouse got the actual highest honors ever. I mean, the full night, like, they had to get their all their perfect dress outfits, and he he inspected them all to make sure they were perfect. You know, it's like we're going to honor a fellow soldier. Everything's going to be perfect.

5:10 Oh, that's funny as hell. And so this hour and an hour and a half episode of turning this mouse into a, paratrooper. Yeah. You know, get sending him to jump school and all. This guy. So, was, was was finished with, like, a 3.5 hour funeral ceremony. So funny man. So. So there goes everyone's evening, like, you know.

5:33 Yep, yep. Done. Well, you have to give. You have to give everyone creativity points in this zone. Like, I mean, the first sergeant, he was wildly creative. Oh, yeah. Everybody. The guy who painted the jump boots on the rat. Hilarious. Yeah. I got I got a sharp eating idea being, you know. Yeah, it was screwed up. Yeah, it was not Peta friendly, but.

5:59 Come on. That funny shit. Yeah. I mean, you have you have a bunch of people who are like, you know, I salade from their family for the most part, you know, who knows? Ready to go to war to drop the hat. Young. Right. Yeah. Like train to train that kill. And you know the rats are ready to suck the damn blue trap, right?

6:20 I don't know, I, I, I feel terrible for the rat, but at the same time, I the the comedic value of a story is. That's amazing. So, yeah, that's one thing I didn't want to do with our podcast is turned into like a war story thing with that one was like, you know, probably probably a pretty good one.

6:38 That's how learned until like, anybody could relate to that. So, one thing I did want to talk about this morning was, I've been seeing a couple articles about, a chick fil A franchisee in Florida. I think his name's like Jeff Lindsey. Okay. And he, came up with an idea. At first, it was a four day work week.

7:06 Then he changed it to three. And, the idea is, you know, when we were working those disposable jobs we were talking about this weekend. Sure. There was always random shifts, and it was a lot to keep track of it. It was a lot to deal with. What if you had other obligations or other jobs because you were underemployed or underpaid?

7:27 Yeah. Right. So. Oh, you know, I had 2 or 3 jobs at a time, and it was tough. Well, what he does now is he said it makes it a lot easier if everybody knows the days they'll be working for the entirety of their employment with me. Wow. He said he divided workers into two parts since they're only open three six days a week.

7:52 The first three and three. Yep. And, they're closed on the seventh day. Yeah. Bless the chick fil A. Right. It's being done Sunday. You gotta. You know how holy that day is amongst chickens? That it's like an it's like the day that they get reprieve. It's like there's no holocaust on a Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. It's right. It's like their great chicken killer overlord.

8:19 Right. Closed on Sunday. Right. Right. It's their prize day. Like. Well. But if I can only make it till seven in the South. Chicken chicken's definitely get cooked up after church. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. There is church's chicken. It's how you tell me. Yeah. Nice. That is definitely open on a Sunday. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. And they're big chain.

8:47 But regardless. He was explaining his philosophy in this article I read from Ned, of all places. Check. Formerly check. Magazine. Now they seem like you're just doing everything. Yeah. Yeah. But, basically, he was saying that. All right. We spend all this time at chick fil A thinking about our customer, delivering to our customer, giving, making our customers lives as easy as possible with pickup options with, you know, fast service, all of these options.

9:24 And he goes, yeah, we eject. The employee experience is a lot better than maybe at other fast food restaurants. But he goes, the random shifts were bad for my business. The random shifts were bad for their lives, and knowing what they're going to work and why they're going to work it. And predictable. Yeah. Predictably. And he instituted writing detailed reports on your 13 hour shift.

9:55 Gotcha, gotcha. And also, he said it gives me a longer chunk of time to see what employees are capable of and what they're doing. Okay. So I can advance the good ones. Interesting. So I thought that was really a neat idea to spend as much time on your employees and their after work and during work lives as you spend on your customers, but still make them fucking robots and have to say my pleasure after everything, right?

10:23 Still, I my pleasure to work at Burger King. Yeah. So. Well, I if I ever go to chick fil A, I make an a mission to make it have it. So there's no valid opportunity for them to say my pleasure. Really? Yeah. It's like the ping pong conversation that, you know, you have back and forth. Oh, yeah. There's this thing for that.

10:41 And then, to my pleasure. Thank you. It's my pleasure. Right. Yep, yep. So I say thank you for not saying my pleasure. And like my. Yeah. So you throw that out there as soon as possible. Oh, I everything every. You know, I try some kind of creative way every time. Yeah. To block them from saying my pleasure. Yeah.

11:02 Because it is not pleasurable to you here, said price. Right. They don't want any unpleasant experience to be robotically called by a human. Oh, you know, that's under a mandate to say a particular phrase. Oh, no. I always hate that whenever I call a place. And they had to spew a script at me to. Yeah. It's weird. It's, you know, the script is necessary, I suppose, because everything is brought down to a metric of some kind.

11:33 Yeah, yeah. But at the same time. It's, I guess, just naturally dehumanizing. And so we have knee jerk reaction to it. It's dehumanizing. And on top of that, if I detect the monotone or hurried speech of a script, I automatically ignore it. Right. Yeah. Spare me the script. Blah blah blah. Yeah. You know, it's funny that, dehumanization is necessary, right?

11:56 For, like, so many, this is necessary for mechanization and automation. For so many, for so many functions. Yeah, right. For somebody for for utility functions across the board. Right. So, like, there's a shooter in Virginia campus, one of the Virginia. Some some college in Virginia Tech parking some. Yeah, something. Charlottesville. Supposedly it was just I just caught it briefly on NPR on the way over here.

12:21 Oh, I didn't hear about the newest one. No. Okay, okay, so another shooter, some shooter lit up, starts blasting off in a parking deck. For some reason, nobody knows anything yet. Was a manhunt. I don't know if it's completed or not, yada yada. And, the the same, the same typical response is happening. So prayers go as the family.

12:40 We need to talk more about gun control. Let's avoid the. Hey, let's avoid the echo chamber. All. And, so, you know, you get it. Same, same exact pattern that we've done for years and continue shooting every day or at, like, three years or something. Right. Yeah. There's, there's it's not going to change. It's a political gridlock. It's not going to change for any immediate short term.

13:06 Hey, Democrats did keep a hold of the Senate. So when they had control over the Senate and the House and presidency, nothing changed. Correct. There's maybe. I think I will order some coffee. I had a couple of people who were stonewalling them that were Democrats in name only. So Dinos instead of rhinos. Oh, here we go. Yeah.

13:31 So, you know, a system, a system that's a, just a mask dictatorship or a or an all in one of those words you want to convey to the reality of the whichever says only a few people are in charge, and they're clear about it. Right, right. Right, right. And it's like getting so, I guess normalized that they're starting to say the quiet parts out loud all over the across the board.

13:59 Right? Yeah. Like there within within industry insiders there. The language that they speak is already, you know, one of complicity. Complicity. Like, for example, like, oh, you know, we're we're hiring such and such. Yeah. Because we have the right away. But they have the they have the technological university talking about that. Yep. A while back. Yeah.

14:26 I mean, like in some countries. Seriously though, it is incumbent upon the pedestrian to not get hit. Sure. Right. Right. Great. That sounds that sounds right. I mean, yeah, it's like the Wild West. Just, organic unit. Beware. Right. It's like, hey, you know, this is a multicultural status away. Yeah. So remember, you went to work at UTC aerospace.

14:53 They hired this detail that please. There was an internal memo and literally a read. You know, such and such. This wonderful lobbyist guy that's going to do all this great things in our behalf are going to go to Washington and write policy. So in the internal memo, literature basically says our private company or, or like, you know, corporation.

15:14 Yep. Is sending a person to Washington to literally right policy. I don't know. And that's the key. And that's why I saw that little lobby for they said. Right. Exactly, exactly. And, you know, this guy is such and such as an insider. He helped these positions, and they even said, this man is an insider. He has run actions.

15:32 He has this. Wow. And so that is not I saw that cartoon of the little piece of paper rolled up piece of paper saying he was a bill on the capital test TV party Hill. Yeah. Clucking about how bills get generated and how they get through the system. Yeah, it's a little bit of a different story than what was in that Nemo, because it needs to go from dude's word document to yeah, to a senator or a senator aid.

15:59 Senator. I don't even think he has to go to a senator. I think it just gets proposed. And then, a a quorum of a certain number of them, then just take it and make it a bill. Right. Right. I don't even think it needs the scrutiny. He's got a headphone saying, he. I don't even think he had done there.

16:20 Whatever. Let me go. Done there. He's got headphones here. Go ahead. Say what you're gonna say. No, it's like his the the headphones. I mean, you're probably pumping him up, helping him get a jog in order, but also, it blocked him them from having an interaction with us. Yeah. Just where he could just have graciously moved out of his way.

16:35 And that's what we would have done. Of course. And what people would have done it, of course. But, you know, he felt the need to be an antisocial prick and, you know. Oh, okay. I wasn't really going there. I was just going with the idea that, like, the technology in this particular case was a distracting creator created and created a situation that was less human.

16:57 We're talking about dehumanization. And ultimately, that's it. It did it. It removal, which is like interaction with the environment. It it immediately the interaction with the environment. Yes. And let's now explain exactly why meta is a fucking fail. Because, yeah, it's dehumanizing and because it mediates your interaction with people. You have to have a direct interaction. Exactly. It's just like, you know, you could interact with people directly or in a chat room or, you know, in a more organic way.

17:31 Still with technology. I see. Right, right. Right, right. Something like that. But instead we've got these layers that are there. You were talking about that the script is necessary for metrics, right? Well, that's what those layers of mediation are necessary for to meet up. Yeah. For metrics. Right. So the sheer the reason I was talking about dehumanizing high tide in the shooter, all that is that for some, some, you know, episode in this person's life, they've reached the point where they cognitively have dehumanized the others.

18:06 Right, right. To where? To the fact where they should just be exterminated like they they have. No, they have no utility on the same plane as and selves. Yeah. Right, right. Like like these people have to die for some, you know, abstract reason, right? You know, even if it's psychotic, no shooter just like, decides. Hey, I'm going to start shooting.

18:26 Right, right. It's, you know, it's like the Vegas guy, you know? I mean, the guy pointed it to the hilt, you know, was a multi-millionaire, you know, and for some reason, he thought he was above and beyond everyone else that he was shooting, trying to shoot, you know, and, you know, wanting to just create a certain amount of chaos because they're so disenfranchized with society.

18:46 So they've gotten to a point where their life or their mental state is so that they don't. I don't get about that guy. He he just doesn't fit the profile of the rest. The one out of Vegas. The guy's a multimillionaire and a successful gambler. Yeah, well, I mean, did he die in the process? I don't even know much about the story.

19:04 That nobody knew why he did it. Because he died. He killed himself or someone killed her. It's like a shootout or a dig. He killed himself. Okay, so it was like a last power thing. There was some weird type, right? He was gonna go off and go out on top of the mountain, I guess. Yeah. I mean, die on a hill for some reason.

19:25 Yeah, I mean, I, I could see how somebody could, like, not do that, but, like, get to the point in their life where they feel hopeless. Yeah. And be so angry at that, that that's fine. That's not to try to be a multi-millionaire. See how that is? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to, but see, something has had caused that person to reach a point in their life where they've dehumanized themselves.

19:44 Yeah. You know, to the point they they found. No, obviously they their anger consumed their lives to the point. That's true. So the point where they lost their humanity. Yeah. Yeah. And so the, you know, and I guess that's it. It's about this loss of humanity and all the things that chip away at it. Yeah. I mean, social media, the dehumanization of social media is antisocial, really.

20:03 Demonization of certain kinds of work and and working in a certain industries, you know. Yeah. And so that's why I was kind of impelling reference to the chick fil A guy with this, like, cool idea, three on, three off and get to know the people and blah, blah. But then have this, you know, it's easy to criticize, I guess, but have this mechanical.

20:19 My pleasure. Because, you know, corporate says. Right. So it's like, I guess I guess, like you have to put things on a scale and say macro and micro. You know, the my pleasure thing is nothing really. So, yeah, it's a moot point, really, in the big scale. Yeah, in the big scale. And ultimately it's more fun than anything it creates in their minds.

20:43 It creates a corporate culture of respect and connection to and service respect. Yeah. I mean, I guess to some extent you can teach ethics, you can teach respect and you can script a certain extent a, an environment, but which those things are fostered. Sure. Okay, I'll buy it. And again, I feel like that's in their mind because I think they're taking a very approach to it.

21:07 They're not really understanding, you know? So like Coca-Cola, you can easily target something like chick fil A as they're just serving shit to people. You know, they know there's no actual positive utility of the organization, right? Makes a bunch of people a lot of money, lots of bunch of people. Very obese and sick. Right, exactly. So that, you know, if you just were to take a giant eraser and erase Chick-Fil-A from the planet, nothing happens, right?

21:35 Well, if anything, you might end up with a chicken celebration. Yeah. Chicken celebration party has a chick coop party. Chicken coop. But also, you might end up with a net positive. Yeah, I guess inevitably, the party of the chicken coop devolves into starvation and overpopulation of chickens and then the chickens. And having a functional equivalent of the chickens.

21:55 United Nations gathering. So, you know what? What do we do now that our human overlords no longer find us tasty? We're at a billion chickens and counting. Yeah. Counting the eggs are all hatching. You don't know what the fuck was going to. We're going to do. We need ten planets in another six months to to house our population.

22:11 Elon Musk, save us. Yeah, yeah, we're building chicks.

22:20 Working with a going crackers with with a whatever version of NASA. I was trying to get some funny fast, but they can. Oh, yeah. Like, I mean, there's always the running of the alley.

22:35 Sure. So. So the chickens are like, you know, and they're starting to join with the cows because, you know, we've also raised McDonald's in Berkeley. They're getting together the cows, and then they're taking their slavery back with Massa there. There are agency. And right now, like, as we as we speak, we're writing the new Animal Farm book, but this is the one that's like reality.

22:57 When he was, you know, finally decided that veganism is the way. Yeah. And so basically, all the cages open and all the population of all these animals enter the world. And here's what they quickly devolve into the story that we're talking about. Right. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. A real life animal farm with hierarchies and politics. And so we start off with like, the, matrix.

23:22 Yeah. Again, this isn't a crosswalk or anything. So a the new Zion celebration of, like, this weird kind of quasi dirty. Everyone's sweaty and grimy, but but but sexually charged masses. DJ celebration. That's what happened. Oh, do we have like a a multi year Woodstock for the animals. That's what I'm saying. Like it just starts off the cages open and it's like oh my god we're free party.

23:47 Yeah yeah. And then so in a very short period of time the reality sets in. Well let's give them a gift. Give them a couple years of straight up partying debauchery, I mean on well, the problem is, is that they're they're there. Reproductive cycle is so freaking fast is that you can't give them a couple of years.

24:04 I mean, a couple of years is it's already destroyed. So, like, sure, you know, they have to start thinking of this out of the gate, no pun intended. So what do we get? Yeah. What's. The gates are lifted. How much fun do we give them? Three months. Can we get them through much? Dude, you have to understand. No way.

24:19 All those eggs are hatching, buddy. All right, I'm on one. Sure. A month or two of, unbridled partying, drug abuse. And it was a. Like, a bacchanalian festival, like, you know, a very celebration of access. Just dive in. And you have to include, like, the narrative of the, the, the worldwide collective of vegans talking about how wonderful this is and everything is good and grand and splendid for them, you know.

24:51 Yeah. So, so there's like this collateral or like carryover celebration amongst the vegans which has its own human kind of debauchery effect. And, so, you know, the people that have eaten the animals their entire lives are just looking at it like, you know, look at all that dinner, you know, going to waste. There's people starting in Africa writing that old adage.

25:17 Yeah. Look at all this waste. So, like, you know, so looking at them as animals, as life, as valuable things, that there's just nothing but a, you know, living commodity. Not like more buys. They're not humanizing, actually. Right. They're just walking dinner. Right. And, so so they're they're the set because, you know, so so there's no partying in debauchery amongst them.

25:35 They're just pissed that that or they're going out there and hunting that. Free animals, I don't know. Well, you know, we gotta gotta put it in the like grand context of like, that's not no longer possible because they're they're now a protected class. Yeah. So like like I said, there's no more McDonald's, there's no Burger King, there's no chick fil A or anything like it.

25:55 Yeah. So all that's gone and the skills have been lost in our society to do much other than that. Yes. Yes. We're good. Yeah. And so, like, everyone's dropping weight like crazy and like the world was actually there's less pandemic and all these, like, great things are happening. But, you know, it's not culturally normal, so everyone hates it except for the vegans or like, hey, we got we want to.

26:14 Yeah. And, you know, you might as well take away guns at the same time in this scenario. Well, I know unless the animals become armed.

26:23 Yeah. Because they're already anthropomorphic, anthropomorphized them. And we're giving them a tournament like the Chicken United Nations and the the the animal version of the United Nations. Right? Absolutely. Yeah. So anyway, the United Nations. Yeah. And it is, is literally a giant fucking barn, like like huge barn, like Capitol building sized barn. Right? Right, right. And so, you know, for any and all.

26:50 Oh, there's plenty of seed around that joint. Right? And, so then the reality sets in, and the world is now, you know, thrice overpopulated with, animals within the first month and even being 3 billion, they converted to veganism shortly thereafter and released all the animal. Now we have the. Yes. And so there's animals everywhere around as much as they can in all different forms of disease.

27:16 They almost like zombies because they can't get enough to eat. They're cannibalizing one another, you know, etc.. Right. It is literally like the dystopian hell on earth for for these animals waving on the manage. We've got all these populations of animals that have prion based diseases. And oh, I mean, you need and and now there's like massive zoo and, you know, cross infection infections.

27:37 Yeah. We're getting all kind of disease from them. Yeah. They're getting disease from us. Yeah. You have a chicken with c line aids. You know it's like what's going on. All right. It's a so this goes on and on. And, you know very quickly the animals realize that, yeah. This, this, this, the, the, the existing symbiotic relationship they had filled with despair and and violence and death and slaughter and management of their entire lives.

28:03 Right. At least at a minimum, you could barely call it symbiotic. It was more like slavery. Slavery. Oh, sure. Yeah. Fair enough. And then they realized, though, that without that infrastructure. They've been genetically modified to the point where they cannot exist fairly. You know, fat chickens that can't stand up because their breasts are so big. You got.

28:22 All right. Which and which are now have atrophied. And because they're not getting the chemical supply and the bionics that have no you, you know, everything's wrong. You got all these animals coming off the steroids. Yep. So they're raging, right? Raging because they cannibalizing one another and bovine growth hormone and everything else. He knows what happens when they come off of that.

28:45 Yeah. So there's like this this, this like someone, one of these animals erects like the Georgia stone of like how we have to, you know, have massive reduction in our population. And, you know, there's all these political parties, there's, like the Trump of chickens. Oh, man, that's awesome. That comes out and people start rallying behind writing populist right wing, I love it.

29:07 Chicken with the left and right wing politics. Yeah right. That's epic. And and you couldn't say populist because that's of the people. What would you say? Who knows. Doesn't matter what you say right. Yeah. But so like the reality would quickly shift. And so, you know, this this massive up swell of population and horrible, you know, reality for these animals would set in, you know, and then of course, there'd be a human overlay to all this.

29:36 Right. You know, because humans then would now be infested with these things. And they naturally started calling their own population. Right. So predators would start to multiply like crazy to and should have to pray for every cycle. Right, right. And so in that it would throw off ecosystems. Oh my God, you think, you think and you know, and whatever animals could exist in the wild like had enough genetic, natural, genetic wild remnants left in them to find a, find a niche in which they could survive in the wild.

30:08 Right. Would, would be now, oh my gosh. And all kinds of screwing up all kinds of human population nonsense. Like you said, the massively, you know, shifting the ecosystem out of balance. Right. And so we basically anti anthropomorphize these things at this point because then now all of a sudden they're all classified as vermin or some species.

30:31 Yeah, they're they're invasive species. Whatever was later of them. They're they're nuisances. Right. Right right. We've got roving bands of animal control, deputized people, you know, calling the population these different gangs of rolling chickens, like where the chicken fingers, you know, where the where the wings with the dicks. We're the crispy chicken. Yeah. Oh, oh. 11 herbs and spices yet?

30:59 Oh, yeah. We're the buffalo chicken, so I love that. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna go out to the buffalo carry. Those are. Those are the larger ones, of course. Yeah, I still want that. Like. But so, you know, these, these animals that get together and say like, what do we do? And, the countermeasures they'd have to put in place for survival would be dramatic.

31:19 You know, they might have to, basically, maybe make a secret alliance with a with a rogue band of underground, carnivores, human, human meat eaters. Yeah. Right. So, like, they're still they're taking a certain percentage of them, like, so their criminal justice system, and someone does something wrong and they get down into the, yeah, they, they go to jail, which is actually the underground processing facility.

31:43 And so the families never see him again. There's all these conspiracies online appeared. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right. And, you know, everyone knows they can still smell it. They still smell the the fried goodness, but. Right, right. That's what's in the air. Yeah. It's impossible to mask like you go buy a cook at at 2:00 in the morning.

32:01 You know. You know you know there's flesh being. Yeah. Being cooked and consumed. Absolutely. And so no matter what they do, these underground processing plants are noticeable to the rest of human beings. Right. But it's like a shadowy, kind of winking, understood thing, right? That like, it becomes part of the shadow economy. Just like the we talk about drugs, drug sales, illegal drug sales.

32:23 Well, that's what I'm saying. Shadow economy right there, like chick fil A is like, yo, man, keep it on the down low. You have to check this out. Yeah, yeah. And now the chickens don't even get a fucking Sunday off, you know, because the underground, you know, 24747. So, Yeah, I guess inevitably there might be this, like, point at which the animals collectively decide it was better before.

32:48 So this inflection point of. Yes, we had no, we saw we got our beaks cut off so we didn't fight each other. Yes, we had a yeah. But now pumped chemicals. Yes. And now no. Those things are happening. So they're, you know, lacerating each other with the beaks and having terrible, you know, outcomes. The, the, the animal hospitals are completely filled to the max, right.

33:08 You know. Right. Plus they have their own and they have to end the game for the animal hospital. Oh, yeah. Nothing. Majority of them are basically collectively a welfare charity state at this point. Yeah, yeah. Every one of them is on disability. Oh, I do think they do have certain ways to generate income. Chicken poop is a great fertilizer.

33:32 And they could also take and collect their poop and create power generation plants with the methods. Is it true? But it's just the classic reductionist, right? So like anytime you take energy and put it through a process, you have a reduction. So, the grain that it takes to produce the, the, the chicken shit is less caloric than what's available in the grain to start with.

33:55 True. So the vegans, you know, that's a big vegan argument is that so you can, you know, have more food supply for humans by eating the grain directly. Right? Every time you process it, every time it goes through an organism's right, you know, they have to use some of the energy for their metabolism inefficiencies. And then when they poop it out, it's less energy than you started with.

34:17 Right, right. So it's the same argument there. Right. But I'm just saying but but yeah. Right. To export power and poop for, for some time. For some time. But don't forget now there's a, there's a they're chiseling in on the, the, the food stock for the humans. That's true. And so that's not going to work. And, you know, you know, it might work through the short term where we with them where we have, you know, and openness to, like you said, provide charity and welfare.

34:47 So in these I don't think I've told you this before, but like, there's certain creatures that are natural creatures that are what they call edge creatures like edge like border or edge creatures. Okay. And like deer, for example, don't do so well in like, the deep forest, but they do fantastic on the edge of the forest, on the edge of human civilization where there's farms and there's.

35:09 Okay, gardens. And so they kind of grab things that you and beings correct mass and hoard. Correct. And so gear will overpopulated really quickly in a really good edge situation. Like you have a lot of farms and stuff right near the woods. Right. So they live and hide and use the woods as cover concealment and protection. But then they drive by operations to steal from being so what they do.

35:36 And so, when it's deer season in a lot of counties that are in these kind of edge communities, right, where there's farms, you'll have, like a bounty, know. Well, that kind of. But you have this idea where every hunter is allowed to have a certain number of gear per, per, per season, like, you know, like you can get six deer.

35:55 Yeah. Right. Right. Your hunting license allows you to get like up to X number of deer per right season. But there's this waiver exemption called a crop damage permit. Oh nice. And there it's freaking you just oh my gosh. Well worth damaging my crop. Oh you can take as many as you can. Yeah. Right. So you can call them as much as you like.

36:16 And these two apparatus working together keep the deer population in a in a check where they can. The population of deer can remain healthy hunters. You know. Oh, you're freezers full. Yeah. It gets people with the need to get that type of boner. The the ability to get that kind of boner. So yeah, because people really don't live off of venison anymore, I wouldn't they know in the amount that you pay in the firearm and the spray and the galea and the tree fucking tree, house tree for tree stand all it and the fruit for the press at home that you're using to make your own bullets and, you know, match great ammo.

36:55 And my God, you put all that together and you could have bought, you know, life supply of beef, right? You could have bought multiple sides of beef or your butcher that you bring that, you know, gear two to get butchered. Yeah. And then if you say, oh, it has to be venison because that is then, okay, you can buy the venison too.

37:12 Well, but yeah, but then again, listen, hiring nitrates and nitrates and whatever the needs. Right. Yeah. This guy's only stopping. But do you see the guilt by this race? Whatever you were like. Did you see what I did? That gesture. Did you see what you did? He put his hand over his mouth like, oh, shit, like I like I did wrong.

37:38 I totally admitted him. Think like he did wrong. He did do wrong. Well, he did do wrong. Yeah. He deserves that emotional hit. Yeah. He deserves that micro dehumanization because he did that to us. No it's micro. Didn't do you even as Asian I don't think I think that he's connecting with you and realize he wronged you as a human.

37:54 Right. So okay, so that was a right that was humanizing, not dehumanizing. Yeah. So, by my gesture, dehumanizing him, humanize the whole thing? I think so, yeah. So that that brings you to another topic. But I want to finish up this idea of this crop damage ferment and this calling of these animals. Right. So within a certain, administrative kind of like, array of rules and regulations and like, you can kind of say, loopholes.

38:25 Right? The crop damage permanent is a loophole. The, government could then, for the local population, manage the population of animals. And they can they can pull the different threads and tweak it over the years, or the health of the animal, different limits, whatever. Right. Because if they don't do that, the crops will be eaten like crazy and these deer will over populate within a few seasons to the point where they're beyond a menace.

38:47 Right? Like you're running and hitting them in your cars. You're, you know, and all of this is still very rough. It's not very precision, those two trolls. But yeah, so I reckon there would be other type of countermeasures amongst the animal, United Nations and working with the humans. Right. That would inevitably get the population to a reasonable right.

39:07 Right. Sustainable. Some of these shadow countermeasures where, you know, the animals are directly aware but there's rumors of this. Yeah. So the the whole entire chaos started when you opened all the cages. Yeah. Right. So like, well, it's the chaos started when you change the status quo, when you change the balance that was created, the UN, when you tried to make things more fair, without controls in place to take care of the ever flow.

39:39 Yeah.

39:45 That was awesome. Okay. So see that's pretty example what we're talking about. He's playing his music out loud so he can hear him coming. And he used his voice and he's our cognitive warriors. Yeah. Right. So even though he was using several pieces of technology those didn't interfere with our encounter. Yes. It's so much smoother, right? Yeah. And which is why meta is failing right there.

40:06 Right there. That's why I'll wait right from the interaction. He said this interaction is essential for when I'm getting ready to do, which is where I just like high speed down this trail to get some up. So I would pay a lot of money, okay. I would pay like the amount that it would cost for an Oculus and a good computer to drive it.

40:28 I would pay for the technological equivalent of that if you gave me a dope ass, augmented reality, augmented reality, functional functional tool that I could use rather than something like graphics or 1990 with big headed avatars with dead cow eyes that are disembodied, right? Yeah, yeah, it looks it. Seriously, it looks like the Nintendo maze. Yeah, well, utter shit, but it has to be because of the technology, because of the billions of people that they want to have on it.

40:59 Right. That's right, that's right. And you know who wants to meet with that thing? You know, I certainly hope so. What I do want to though, do is like be able to kind of, Tony Stark pull up a screen on my wall, and that's the person I'm meeting with. Well, yeah. Now I'll pay big fucking dollars to have that, to feel cool as fuck when I use my hand gesture to swipe another screen up on my wall.

41:22 And, you know, like a couple of years ago, until my computer was about ten years ago, that they had something with a K desktop environment, KDE on Linux where you could playing thanks to devices, you know, and they made it work for a little while and then they lost their developers. So see y'all fine up for that shit, right?

41:43 Because then when my wife comes into the room and says, I got you some new coffee, I can just graciously turn her and say, wow, thank you so much that. Yeah, and I'm not have to take off this big headset, interrupt my weird. You know, we we looking meeting, you know, weird, bizarre thing with, you know, you're using something like Magic leap to.

42:03 Oh, or I connect to notice your gesture. I'm determining what devices are in the area. Maybe you're using a combination of that in synthetic, arbitrary radar to determine what devices are in your room. Exactly, exactly. And, you know, or, like, just something like this, we can walk around and public data becomes available, and like, these little balloon call outs come up, like from my projector, right.

42:26 And like, more or less like Google Glass. But but slick but actually, like, you know, not not some terrible. Yeah. So like, clearly if someone has on these weird, creepy, sex offender glasses. Right, right. And you're staring at you. So what are we call them? Military birth lesson? Yeah. That's right. And and their eyes aren't focused completely new because they're focused on the augmented projection that's happening in the lens.

42:50 Right? Yep. And now you've created the A derivative. It's not an augmented reality. It's a another version of that. Well, we talked about this months ago, but there's a company who just started going into trials with a contact lens. Sure, sure. Does this thing to Google Glass. And that to me is not not very intrusive and yet still insanely functional.

43:17 I have to wear one of those. Yeah. So it has to become it has to be a human. Unless you have a cultural shift, right? Unless there is a big cultural shift, which they tried to do and they couldn't. Right. Unless that were to occur, you'd have to make it completely seamless with natural human interaction. Yeah. So like if things are popping up in our current environment right before our eyes meet, these augmented reality contact lenses.

43:42 Yeah, right. But we're still having our same interaction. Yeah, that's just cool. In fact, it'll probably give us that more. It's going to inform us on the fly. It's going to enrich our interaction. It's going to it's going to be similar to what the Chick-Fil-A guy was trying to do in spirit. Yeah. He's like, I want enrich their lives, give them more time for work life balance.

44:02 Right. So what we could do in that environment is that the augmented reality in that case could help us be more human connected. It's good. And it could be help us be more connected to real, true facts and figures. And that by itself know the owners right there. Oh, so like that could be helpful. You know, like that dog could be RFID and you know.

44:21 Yeah. And we know that, hey, this dog is chipped and it's it lives right there. And and then the signature of the human nearby would help us identify where the other people are. And not only that, it would make our podcast badass because we'd have real time facts and corrections. I'd turn on whatever correction they had whenever I was talking.

44:43 Oh, we have to. Then we wouldn't have to spend hours in post-production fact checking ourselves and making corrections. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we so do that, guys. We definitely read it in the correct things in the podcast. I mean yeah, use to visit our podcast there. Is that happening. Oh is there. Yeah. Are you really editing things like that.

45:05 No. But adding corrections okay. Yeah that's different. So if I spat it out some fact and my fact was off by 10%, let that be known. Yeah, that makes sense. But yeah, I mean, I really do enjoy this burger prefect we have in the studio now to.

45:24 I like it. So with the augmented reality, you know we could like be pulling up values of the houses as we go by. There's that of curiosity. I mean, we would have access to not just floods of data like we do now. We wouldn't be inundated with it. We would be able to pick and choose and filter, and we'd never come out again because the sex offender data would be overlaid.

45:45 Yeah, because it's like you go up the street and there's like 12 sex offenders and you're like, what the fuck is going on? I didn't know this is my neighborhood. Why are all the schools in this area a three out of a 1 to 5? And there's a mass exodus from popular areas just because of this area. So that would be that's actually a good point about humanity is if that most people were, made much more aware of the full reality or at least aspects of it that people typically care about, that could be very damaging.

46:20 Oh, look at that. That's a big ass cat. Yeah it is. I could use you, buddy. I'm home. One job. Yeah, you could be gainfully employed. How about it? Will mouse for food? Yeah, that. That cow looks like he'd take a mouse out pretty good, dude. I think he'd take anything out that's in my room. Come on, buddy.

46:40 Yeah. So again, there's like, you know, cats, for example. Or in our animal analogy, absolutely devastating to bird and, and certain populations of wild animals like devastating. Right. So there's no doubt there in invasive species. True. But they per nice and they fun to pet so. Right. And it's really hard to eat. Speaking about you're talking about reproductive success.

47:08 It's hard to control cats. And how much they produce. They do a good job. They have this good natural ability to, when they're feral find ways to survive. Right. Oh yeah. I mean and even when they're not feral they still retain a lot of this feral elements. They are their own animals. Yeah. Right, right, right. Yeah.

47:30 They're pretty dynamic in that way. You know, I, I couldn't imagine like, a Yorkie, you know, surviving very well. No, no. But who let a regular house cat out there. It's fine. Yeah. It finds its way, right? Yeah. So, you know, back to this humanizing thing is I was thinking recently about humanism, you know, the religion thereof.

47:50 And there's there's a degree of dehumanization, unfortunately, built in the idea of trying to to bring religiosity to the human equation, like to, to bring religiosity into, into humanism. Okay, is, in a way, dehumanize it. Okay. So I mean, that's another layer of mediation. Yeah. Like kind of a whole podcast for that because that's like a huge thing to unpack.

48:18 But in general, I was just thinking about that lately. And, I mean, my critique of humanism as of late has been since it's mostly been devoid of the technological impact. It's missing its mark big time. Well, and I think that's what we're all right. I said this about Christianity as a kid, but I think it applies to humans equally.

48:39 They didn't have to rephrase it in the context of the culture with what you're in. Yeah. You have to say, okay, humanism is about what affects human being. Whoa, whoa, Joe, did you give me. This is about the human condition. What is affecting human being? What is helping are detracting from what can we do? Create success. Those sort of things.

49:04 Right? Right. Well, then you absolutely have to include technological effect. Never. Guess what I was ready for can go different way. Avoid that. But it can't. Right. So you absolutely have to include technology or you're being blind to a facet of the union condition. Yeah. So the, problem with demon ism, and now the problem with most religions in general is that they are not allowed to actually, evolve rapidly enough to address the elephant in the room.

49:35 And so what they do is they dance around periphery issues that are get a lot of attention and allowed to evolve. I mean, maybe it's human beings are too slow to change in a vault. Yeah. So for example, specifically with humanism, they've really, latched on to the LGBTQ stuff. What is part of the union condition? Right? Well, yes, it is, but it isn't the elephant in the room about human civilization.

50:03 True. So what is what is the elephant in the room? Is applied technology and environmental ism. So like the chickens where the gate has been opened, human population, you know, which is now about to hit a billion, is a serious thing. And so it needs to be dealt with seriously. Yeah. And that's not just give TVs to Indian farmers though, or forced through some types of eugenics program.

50:31 Those aren't those are the answers. Those are ham fisted, ill thought out and, you know, short lived. Right? The answers are legitimately bringing the world to a state of civilization where the cultural naturally follows to where people wouldn't have so many shoulder. So, like, if you're in this, like, depraved, high infant mortality environment where it's richly impoverished and your best chances of ever having a retirement is to have as many children as possible.

50:59 That's one hell of a phrase to think about. Turn around in your mind a richly impoverished. Yeah, yeah. And and so when you have that environment you have a natural cultural incentive to have produce. Right. Yeah. You're going to, you're going to want as many kids as possible because for many a reason you need them. Yeah. And so they have like this, this news.

51:28 Spinning had that, had that brewing. So right now you have like the kind of basil, meaning of life happening all the time, which is procreate. So like the meaning of life from biological standpoint. Okay. From a from a baseline organic, entities perspective is just a procreate. That is the that is the meaning of life from biological standpoint.

51:55 Right. So there's that natural since, you know, we're part of the natural environment that that impulse is their biological. Yeah. Right. But then you have human beings which have civilization in these higher abstract ideas. You know, we've layered all of these things on top of our natural impulses. Right? And so then you can create an unnatural impulse to not have the desire to have to just procreate and create a new cognitive purpose for yourself, like find your own destiny.

52:20 What's my purpose in life? You can define that for yourself. And so humans have this nice bifurcated, collection of what we consider our purpose. We don't just have the basic biological need for a as our purpose or meaning of our lives. Right? We have the we have this abstract cognitive, meaning of life as well that we self self-produced.

52:43 And we talked about before the and we've talked about before that ultimately the idea here is we need to create a culture that allows you to transcend those basic needs, allows you to have those things so that you are more in that giving in to that covenant of idea of what can I do with my time? I have leisure time, I have this and that right?

53:10 So people collectively start producing the repeat replacement rate of next generation or less and not obviously having then exponential or based growth. Right, right. So yeah. So when you put all that together, the chickens and the cows and the figs, when the gates come all flying open would be at the baseline of having to start to create all that stuff.

53:34 Well, yeah, they would need the hierarchy of needs. They'd be probably in the negative. Yeah. And so this new society would have to achieve all of that. Not only that, but coexistence with a highly developed society. Right. So then back to the humanist idea is that the, micro focus on certain issues, which I'll indeed are valid social issues and should have some airtime to hyper focus on them is self-defeating.

54:05 Because then you're not addressing the real massive elephant in the room issues that you need to be focusing on. Right. Like who cares about LGBTQ if we have geothermal nuclear work. Right. Because that one kind of cancers the other out. It's like nobody cares about the the what what the neighbor identifies as when everyone's hair and teeth are falling out due to radiation poisoning.

54:27 Yeah, right. No, no. Nobody cares. So I mean, ultimately, maybe that's the thing. Rebasing, trying to rebase your own corner of the movement on real issues that, you know, not intellectual faffing about. That feels good, right? But really, what what can you really do for not only those societies in India that are producing huge numbers of kids? Well, what can you really do for the poor in any country?

55:01 What are some universal solutions that may have an impact? That's right. So I want to create a new intellectual movement, that's very closely aligned with some of the principles of humanism, but have it be hierarchy as far as the issues and the are efforts. Hey, guys. Hey, buddy.

55:24 Look. Look at that tail going Sean. No, it's like why I love that that duality is that dog in the debate, right? It's like this pretty strong, menacing bark, you know, combining the wicked tail wag. And he's like, if you can't remember here, I'd so play with you. I'll look you to death. You know I'm here. I said I'll lick your death to death because I'm bad at.

55:50 I'm hardcore hardcore.

55:54 Water bulls. You. I will waterboard you. You'll confess to every crime whether you did it or not. Before I'm done with you. Let's go. Play with me. Please. Please. Yeah. Come on, come on. Right over the bets. Just give up. All right. I'll. I'll allow you to be fully humanized. Come over here if you want. Actually, I got it right over here.

56:16 Open that gate. I'll show you survival.

56:20 Does that mean really? We groomed him to be like that? That is survival for them to injury, right? Yeah, right.

56:28 There's still a certain amount of wild in in every animal. Yeah. Oh hell yeah. Include it. Including humans, you know, I mean, you put them in a situation like happened in 2008 where you had roving bands of domestic animals because their owners had abandoned them. Yep. Yeah. That can be scary. Yeah. I saw didn't that crappy neighborhood I loved doing.

56:51 There was a tiny little band though. There was a Pomeranian, a bagel and something else. I couldn't even tell what it was. It was like certain animals in the roving pack of dogs that are like, just the toadies, like like like A Christmas Story. Scott Ferguson's little toady. It's like, you know, the cocker spaniel in the group of wandering dogs and feral dogs is.

57:10 It was just three. Yeah.

57:14 It's like running. Its ears are flapping its. But it feels the power of its brethren. Right of his brothers. And so like it's carrying itself a little bit taller. There's only one right doesn't it isn't quite as goofy. Yeah. But and, and like, really is starting to believe itself that it's somewhat of a badass. But yeah, it was like these three little dogs and it was funny, but they were main dude.

57:38 It doesn't it doesn't. Yeah. It doesn't talk about it's really saucy at the end of the day and the issues that just wants to play sometimes. Oh right. They're too busy killing. Yeah. You know play has been put aside. So anyways I'll finish by saying that I think that there's a missing element for people like, not necessarily a new religion, but a new philosophy that they start tying into their lives is what's legitimate.

58:01 It's like helps them get through each day positively with, with, with higher spirit and higher energy that doesn't put them on their knees, maybe, you know, keeps them on their feet with walking tall, not down on their knees, bowing to which is always a man in proxy to God or ideology. Right, right. So, that's probably something leaving on right there.

58:20 That's a good one.