0:00 Then just kept walking. Cool. So what came of it? You know, really just.

0:11 Thinking about things that I wanted to do and finish. So I came home with a kind of a learning plan. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Since, like, a mini walkabout. Yeah, yeah, that's really what it was. And I was just, you know, trying to come up with, like, I redid my resume in my head and a couple other things.

0:34 So I went home and redid it. Yeah. My resume in my head is awesome.

0:41 It's like the best. Oh.

0:44 You had parrot down. When you get the paper or you just say it is exactly like I have built it. No, it never gets to paper. Yeah, I guess it doesn't need to. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, it does. Like, you should have it on the ready, you know. True. Never know when you might get that opportunity. Yeah.

1:09 Clientele pop out of the woodwork constantly. Yeah. Always have that elevator speech and that resume at the ready. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Your little elevator pitch. You're a little 32nd blurb.

1:22 It'd be really cool if you're an elevator salesman. Even the elevator pitch.

1:28 Like like, hey, I got something for you. This. Imagine there's there's this box. How hard it finds the cable. How hard do you think elevator salesmen have to sell? I don't know, man. Sales have just gone up and down all the time.

1:48 Shit.

1:50 The joke was wrong on so many levels.

1:55 That was a classic. I'm talking about, having sex with a fat chicken. The elevator. It was wrong with so many little.

2:03 Bo Burnham is funny. Oh. He's awesome. Got his girlfriend pregnant on his uncle's sterile pullout couch.

2:14 I mean, they don't call them flipping fucks for nothing. I never heard of that one. No.

2:22 Yeah. It's funny. Some people, like, I don't know. He's he's he's smart. Right. So, like, a lot. I think he leaves a lot of people behind in his comedy. Yeah. You got to kind of pay attention. And that's something you have in the background. Right. You're like Jeff Foxworthy, you know that that can. You can just play that in the background.

2:40 Yeah. You don't even really have to think. Everyone kind of understands. You might be a redneck, you know? Okay, I get it. You know, what's funny about Jeff Foxworthy is like, when I haven't listened to him or whatever in a while or, party or, you know, if I, if I haven't heard his routine for a while, I think of him and I'm like, you know, a.

3:04 Yeah. And then if he's on it and I listen to him like you know, he comes up in YouTube or whatever, you know I'm like damn it's pretty funny actually. I mean it is though. He's it's really simple. It's approachable and it's relatable. It's just strange. I don't like think of them as funny. But then then if I listen to them, it's funny.

3:25 Yeah. Yeah. But then after he's off, I'm like, don't think I'm funny anymore. No. The rest of the Blue Collar Comedy tour. Yeah. I don't think he's as great as he is. He's simple. Yeah, maybe that's what's so good about it. Like country music? Yeah, it's facile and it's approachable. Everybody can relate to it. I wish I was that way.

3:46 There you go. I'm overdue. I wanted before the end of 2021 to, you know, do that thing. Get to the comedy club. It was like a little bit Covid restricted, but, yeah, you know, I'm overdue. I got I got to do it. Gonna do, like, an open mic night. Yeah. Just make a fool of myself. Hell, yeah.

4:04 That's always good to like. What? Have a unity check. Well, I mean, you know, check. But also, you're going to have fun with it no matter what the outcome. You know, humility check. You know, but also trying something new. Yeah. I can probably pay everybody I know to come and laugh. How the fuck. You don't have to pay everybody.

4:30 Well, you know, just as a joke. Like, not really, but beg them to come and laugh at whatever everything I say. Send the people that aren't in my group. Would, you know, like, laugh too? Yeah. Infectiously. Laugh. Not laugh at the jokes. Yeah.

4:47 I think, I think my kind of humor will be try to be like a cerebral humor. Yeah. But without, like, falling on my face, you know? Well, yeah, but can get up there free to throw in some giant, some green giant dick. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you can get up there and talk about, you know, poop and sex and relationships.

5:07 Sure. And, you know, it's that's the common fodder, I guess, for, you know, if people are used to comedy. Right. But all like the, I don't know, like some kind of almost like a George Carlin approach. Yeah. But, even George Carlin, it's like he still tried to have that, you know, if you were halfway intelligent. That air of approachability.

5:31 Right? Yeah. Wizard at, like, you know, getting down to subject matter. Hey. Boiled things down to their essence. Great. You know, and I mean, this one joke about where he's talking about pulling the scab off the top of his head.

5:50 And and how he was gonna, like, lay out a white doily. So it was stand out and start to leaf against it, and, you know, all this crazy shit. I mean, that's funny. It was hilarious. And he could pull it off. Yeah, that's the thing that's like, if I tried that. My God. Yeah. Like throw a tomato at you.

6:09 You know, they wouldn't still do that. Well, I mean, you had all this practice with the, you know, and I think that's part of it. He developed a character, you know, like the hippie dippy weatherman. Yeah, yeah. Well, and plus, he's, you know, so much experience, I mean. Yeah. That's it. Practice lifetime experience on the radio and everything else.

6:33 Yep. But yeah. So I was thinking about it, like, you know, you have to kind of invent a character. To some extent. You do. You know. And so what are your playing. So what would that character look like and act like and what would the mannerisms be and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. If I just if I just was myself, there's no chance.

6:54 To be honest. I think you have to play a character up there because I need something they can understand quickly, I guess. Yeah. Like, what is your what is your approach with your stick up here? Boom. Communicate it. You know, like a, you know, there's a there's a reason to this. But it's also like funny is that like I'm I'm overly educated.

7:19 Like, seriously, you see all my credit hours and all the freaking classes in school and done as far as education, like to educated, like, you know. Yeah. And but but not by anything good. Like, you know, no Harvard degree or something, you know. Right. But I'm just, like, interesting. Whatever the hell it is. It is interesting travel,

7:43 It's like the red headed stepchild to the church up the road. Yeah. For real, though. Jesus.

7:51 So. So, you know, my brain is definitely full of useless shit. That that doesn't matter. That nobody cares about, right? You know, you know, unless you find that, you know, odd podcast listener. Well, this is the thing. I mean, what we're talking about is, you know, all you're really trying to do is you're trying to pick something from the from a certain degree of a common pool of experience, and you're trying to build a character around it.

8:20 And you know, what is the message you want to get? You want to throw out there? It can be sorry, bro. It just has to have some extra things so people can grab on to it. Yeah. So can you imagine? Like your brain is like a chalkboard, you know? Yeah. And, you know, after you fill up the chalkboard, if you're going to write some more shit on there, you got to erase something.

8:41 Here we go. And then, you know, you keep going. You raise that you need more room. You raise something else, you keep going, and you can kind of see the stuff that was written on the board, right? Like the classic chalkboard. You kind of see the stuff that was there. Shades of it. Yeah. I mean, I've seen before, like chalkboards where you can still kind of read what was on there before it was erased.

9:00 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, maybe 2 or 3 layers of that even, you know, if you, if you're, if you got a really classic chalkboard, you know, and instead of like, really rubbing it and washing it clean, it was just rubbed out. It wasn't really, you know, you know, it's kind of how memory is. You have this neural pruning your brain goes through and, you know, basically like you have to you don't remember, you don't remember what you've forgotten.

9:23 So nobody, nobody, like, really believes they forgotten anything. Right. You know, until they until something. It's brought up. Yeah. Until it's brought up. Or they see a video or, you know, photo. Oh, I remember that now. Know. Yeah. And that's that weird kind of metacognition, too. Like you knew you once knew that. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Isn't that always fun?

9:41 Like when we were like, you know, some topic gets introduced and you're like, I know. I knew that in fifth grade. Yeah, yeah. There was a point where I knew that and I said, since forgot. Now I remembered that. I know sometimes you can even remember the day you learned the thing that you forgot. You're there like loud school bus.

10:01 You know, it's like, do you remember things surrounding the thing that you forgot? Now that the thing you forgot has been brought up? Yeah, yeah. It's so weird. So it's like this neural pruning and, you know, when, when you, when you learn something like, let's say you just full on go into something, you know, like you throw yourself into some subject matter.

10:18 Yeah. Well, other things will have to get displaced, you know, if you're going to fill your brain with that. Yeah. It's like the man was the the. You know, you can't go up and pick something up if your hands are full. Yeah. So I was wondering, like, imagine for argument's sake, like you had this second brain or third brain or whatever, you had this, like, you know, you're learning.

10:40 Yeah. You're like looking at yourself like a puppet, you know, like a like a avatar. And you know, you're you're managing this and you're saying, okay, what what should I put in this brain? Right? Like, like you're you're the front of you have full control of your secondary or tertiary brain. Yeah. And it's just temporary. Like it's temporary.

10:58 Everything's offloaded and you get to, like, go back and pick what goes into this brain to try to to try to make this person, like, have the right kind of information, you know, because it's true, dude, I have, like, so much useless shit in my brain. It's not even funny like so much useless shit. I mean, most of us do.

11:15 And, you know, it'd be so cool if, like, you could just scrub that crap and, like, replace it with. Yeah. You see, what I would like to do is. All right. Whenever I'm going into, like, a task or whenever I'm going into, you know, have to talk about something for a couple of hours, it's fairly specialized. I try to kind of load all the crap in my brain, so to speak.

11:37 Related to anthropology, related to this, related to that. Only to know, like you're just going to forget it. But you know what I'm saying? Like, gather all the stuff you do remember. Yeah. Boom. Sharing your head, being that mindset, it'd be almost awesome if you could, like, basically end up with being able to load personalities. Oh, yeah, that's a good one.

12:01 Yeah. Like, yeah. Like being a plug and play different character personalities. Yeah. Like, hey, this is my, you know, sociology anthropology hat. You know, it's so weird to that, you know, the, the, that that whole idea of that metacognition, like, what would be. So I'm claiming I have, like, tons and tons of useless bullshit in my brain, but, like, what would actually be useful stuff like.

12:25 Yeah. How did you keep it the forefront of your mind? Yeah. How do you truly, like, genuinely discern what what's useful information and what's not? And I think it's like I was talking about. Yeah. So it almost seemed like to plug and play it. Yeah. You know, you want to walk down this. Sure, sure. Why not? Right. But yeah, I think it's I think it just highly depends on what we're about to do.

12:49 Interesting. So I guess, like, we kind of do that we would brush up on something, you know, going for a particular job interview. You brush up on those skills, you know? Yeah. So I guess there's some of that kind of plug and play that happens. But it's interesting because it's really hard to predict what what information is useful and what what's not like, obviously some mindless entertainment shit.

13:09 Like I have so many song lyrics in my head, I don't know if I need all that right or do I? Is that make me more creative? I don't know. Well, okay, it's creative fodder, but it is also a conversation. Like if something comes up related to that in a really tight way, you can bring it up. Okay, so I have a okay, so I got a Rolodex of bullshit to to draw on.

13:30 Yeah. So I can keep the conversation going. Right. And that's helpful. Don't just have to invent the shit on the fly again. Yeah. Can just take stuff I've heard. Well, I mean, but if you connect that with novel things, people are happy about it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And that's like creativity. Just connecting things that kind of writing in new ways.

13:52 Right. Yeah. It's kind of well and adding some more to it. Extending it, you know. Sure. Cool. So there is no such thing as useless information? I don't think so. I think we've identified, you know, where you take something in, you remember it, you've identified you either think it's fun or you like it, or other people might enjoy it later, or you could use it.

14:16 Yeah. So you can get really serious about it, I guess, and say, okay, what information is like maximized has the maximum utility for my life. You know, you can say, well, you know, everything I know about nutrition, let's say. Yeah. You know, it's like extremely important because, you know, once you put it in your body is key. Sure.

14:33 And, you know, self-admitted like that's a that's a weakness of mine. I'm really not a, you know, God mode when it comes to nutrition. You know, I don't really understand all the different minerals in the same here, you know, and actually how that resonates with my biology, how how it works in my cells and all that. Yeah.

14:50 Not really an expert in that. But if I were to choose, like something that would be important to be an expert in, that would probably be one of the things. Yeah. So I'm like, you know, I'm like a the game of operation on this brain, you know, and I'm like picking what tidbits go in and what goes out.

15:05 Right. I think I would take that I think I'd take that knowledge. And I think I would only do this active pruning if I could absolutely offload the hard won knowledge to some kind of glacial storage or something, if I decided I didn't need it. Glacial storage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. So, you know, I'd pick that. I'd pick like, you know, the knowledge of knowing how to take care of myself really well.

15:29 Like, what's best food, nutrition and. Yeah, you know, I think I'd choose that information that's important. And once you kind of had a visual of where some of the gaps were, maybe you could go in and fill them. Yeah. Say, look, I need to fill in these pieces of knowledge.

15:46 And so you do you go seek them out. Yeah. So you know, probably some some better information about sociology too. I'd probably want to know some of that stuff better. Like. Right. Not just like the how to win friends and influence people, but the, you know, actually like some, some primo knowledge about, you know, how to how to fit in best to society, like how to find your mark, how to find your role.

16:12 Probably some of that stuff. Don't know what else I had choose from my brain to be really good at an expert at. Oh, definitely foreign language and an instrument that's definitely. So. I wanted to play an instrument, but I can't really. I'm not really sure which one I would play. I play some chords on a guitar, like, enough to, like, sound like I know what I'm doing, but it's just the only, the only the only people that that, think that I know what I'm doing on the guitar.

16:39 I have no idea what music is. Damn. So why don't you just want to fleece the people who don't know what music is? I don't, it just happens to be how it is. Not looking to fleece anybody. It's just, I wish I could really play, not just, you know, no. Ten. Course, you'd want to play the guitar. Not necessarily hard, but just be really good at it in general.

16:58 Yeah, that's pretty cool visual effect. Yeah. So it's got a waterfall lighting thing. Someone's got some LED lights and don't, don't mind paying the extra power for the like the decorative effect like it's Christmas and they digging it down and stuff like that near Christmas took us up with a spectacle. It's a good thing. Yeah, yeah. So I think that instrument and probably a foreign language like mastery of a foreign language, probably like a, I wouldn't call it an oriental language.

17:31 I think that words out. But, you know, one of the one of the Asian languages. Yeah, they could probably go something like that. Or like a Slavic, maybe like a Russian or something.

17:46 So, yeah, I think that would be cool if you could, like, pick what's in your brain romance like which if I was going to pick one, you go with like a French or a Spanish. Yeah. That's all good. That's all good to. So you know, so your brain has that, your brain has that kind of edge, if you will.

18:06 I'd want to do two of them. I'd want to do.

18:11 Are you going to be trilingual? Well, this is kind of similar to the romance languages. You had one of them. I'd want to know Latin to a much higher degree. There you go. For, you know. Yeah, kind of useless reasons. It's got a lot of root, you know. Yeah. That'll help you learn other languages. Yeah. It's more etymology.

18:33 Yeah. So, you know, being able to like, pick and choose what be in your brain would be pretty fucking cool, man. It would. What is it? They did that in The matrix when they plug into this, you know right now you're judo expert. Now you're this I know kung fu. Just like that's like everyone's dream. I think to be able to just.

18:51 Yeah, like instantaneously like that. And the thing is what's, what's going to get me though, like. All right, we're talking mastery loaded into your brain. Yeah, but.

19:04 Really, can we look at what can we look at the mastery they had and see if there were any holes or gaps in what they picked with mastery? Probably. Yeah. Like who's to say? Does it just get loaded in your brain and is and you can't add to it. You can't modify it. That's my question. Why is it like a skill so they can remove it later?

19:28 Well naturally your your own brain would, would, would you know, modify it through your subjective experience. Well, I'm just wondering how much that happened that would happen in the, in that case, like is it a static skill or not? I guess I would hope it wouldn't be. At first. It's like if two people took the same program, they'd have the same skill, you know?

19:49 Right. Same knowledge. But then, you know, someone used it this just walk over here, ask him to use it. Yeah. Then like, you know, two identical twins, you know, maybe, you know, close to birth or, you know, pretty much the same blank slate. And if they have an A 25, there might be volunteer firefighters. Sure. Yes. That and then, but you know, over time they're going to if they especially if they live different part, you know, live in different states, live in different cultures, you know, their brains would, would shape differently quite a bit.

20:21 Right. Well, so they, they owned a bunch of situations where they've been separated and they ended up having similar professions and. Oh really? Yeah. That's why I brought the 25 year old firefighter thing, like they found some separated twins and they were both one with a volunteer firefighter and one was a firefighter. Yeah. Okay. It's like, well, that's pretty close.

20:44 The smart one was the one that was getting paid right. The smart one was the one getting paid more. Doing something else.

20:54 Nice. And then, you know, the the the one rescues the other from the fire. Right. Some kind of strange cosmic link. They were the these redheaded guys. One was a lot faster than the other. And roundhouse kick expert. Yeah, I think that comes with big a ginger. It's like a default skill. Like you can roundhouse kick someone in the face once a day.

21:24 Your your bar loads like, your, your skill bar loads. And when it hits the it hits 100% that it's charged.

21:33 And if you know you better, you better use it so you don't lose it. Right? You had no choice but to ask me in the face. He had to use it nice. Because of course if you don't use it, then over time, you know you have to wait longer for the bar to recharge, right? Right. Gingers and roundhouse kick.

21:53 Love it. It Chuck Norris. See, ginger, I don't know. We're finding out the man is so ancient. I'm not sure what his hair color actually is. To me, it looks like he does have a little bit red, a little bit of red in that beard maybe. Oh, maybe it all comes full circle now. No pun intended, right? I mean, this is this is it.

22:18 This is cool. Like going to a black greenway. Yeah. We might not think it's cool in a minute. Why. Who else. Who else is in this black Greenway. Yeah. Safety in numbers.

22:35 This is cool as well. Just you know who knows what we'll find. Probably people in discovery. I was I was going down to freedom the other day close to Moorhead. Like where Freedom and Moorhead kind of coming in. Yeah. We're pinkies is. Yeah. Yeah. Right close to there. There's this like intersection before that. And, I just happened to look to my right.

22:57 Sue was driving, so I was in the passenger seat. I haven't looked at my right and in the woods, it was like 50 fucking tents, dude. Yeah, man. I'm like, damn, man, do this. This is where there's like a city in there when there's wooded areas where people camp out, that's where people stay. I even had a friend.

23:15 Vanessa. Yeah, the Greenway in South Charlotte. They're like one Creek Greenway. Yeah, she got us. Our friends of ours got her a tent. And that's where she lived for, like, six months. Why? Same reason, I guess the other people was there. How much? The homeless thing. Yeah. I mean, they don't like, like, willingly. No, we didn't have anywhere to be pretty.

23:43 Well, the house, of course she couldn't. She couldn't, like, couch surfer. What are they called? I mean, she's Burntisland Bridges. Really? Oh, shit. That's all. She. She was really young at the time. She was only like, 19 or 20, but she had stayed at my place. She had saved a bunch of other people's places and. Damn. So how'd she burn the bridge with you?

24:08 It was kind of complicated, but ultimately, her father was a.

24:17 Up for a, well wanted for murder. What? They tried to find him at our house. How do you get it? How do you find these people? And also.

24:30 During an act of kindness, her father almost OD'd in my bathroom on methadone while he was cleaning it. Hey. Why not? I was wearing a thong in the gas mask. No.

24:44 I don't think so. I wasn't there, I was in Myrtle Beach, and her family decided to clean my room in my bathroom for me. All right. And, he almost died. Then, you know, she would, she would kind of flirt a lot and, try to abuse the situation to, get me and my roommate to give her and her boyfriend stuff.

25:11 And it was like, you know. Yeah. Occasionally I'll buy you say, the veggie patty sub subway, but deal on that. Yeah, not really doing much. So she was like, slaying with you. Kind of like trying to use, like a female. Like a little bit of, like, seduction and kind of cutesy stuff. Work very well on me because of my low self-esteem.

25:32 Yeah. You mean it does or doesn't? Doesn't because I'm like, there's just no way that you could be true about this. I'm good. Oh, I see, I see, I see, I didn't see that angle at first. I got you now. Like you can't possibly really be intimate. So. Yeah. So I've got this shield. Fuck off. I got you.

25:53 That's almost like a double entendre of, you know, flirtatious sexuality I like.

26:00 So like, she was just trying to, like so many hustle you to to, like, get resources. Yeah. Jeez. And it's not like they were addicted to anything crazy at the time. They were just heavily into weed. All right, so there's a mental dog, right? So there's a mental dependance, but there's not a physical, you know, a dog's cruising man.

26:23 He is. Oh, there's the owner. Cool. But he doesn't know that we that we like dogs and we don't care. He's been being all nice about it.

26:37 Awesome. Good morning. Good. Cool. Doug. Thank you. So. Yeah, dude, I mean, it ended up George ended up finding her mother, dad and I. It's day motel. Her father is there. Kind of like a joke there. No. Like, no, I mean, dying in an extended stay motel. I mean, that's probably a really, like, permanent, permanent stay there. It's like your spirit will always be here.

27:07 You can check in, but you can never leave Hotel California. Yeah. So. So, you know, you die in a motel, and, you know, they just take your body out and just, like, reuse the room, right? I'm sure. Do you 100% never really thought about. There's probably some kind of protocol, but, you know, still, someone died there. I never even thought about that.

27:30 So there's like, a chance that, you know, I've stayed in plenty of hotel rooms or where people have died, right. That's awesome. And you do like. Oh, yeah. Take a selfie, make a shot. Alrighty. All right. So I never really thought about that. Like, yeah, because surely people die in hotels. I've heard of people dying in hotels. There's every hotel we stayed in.

27:53 Something crazy has to have happened there, I'm sure. A suicide, a death. I wonder if there's, like a website out there that that describes or talks about, like or otherwise like tries to archive all the bad happenings in various hotels.

28:10 I wonder if it's like the really interesting that data set would be really interesting. Like how do you get Ahold of it? I don't know, I don't know who tells are probably want to keep that pretty mom. I would, I would imagine yeah. But imagine they want to keep that on the down low. But you know that that too.

28:27 Like I you know, I never used the coffee pot in the, in the hotel room because it's like, you know, I don't want dick coffee, you know? Right. Like, wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out someone, you know, defiled that. Defiled that coffee pot in some way. Right? You know, and I don't dare bring a black light into a hotel room.

28:46 Yeah, yeah, I'd be scared, too. So it's like, you know, many times I've thought about getting, like, a really high powered one with those glasses. Those amber colored glasses. Oh, yeah. But then I'm like, do I really want to know? Do I really want to really want to know is if I did not intend to stay there, you know, like sometimes the sanitation score on the wall spooks me, let alone, yeah.

29:09 Knowing what bodily fluids have been sprayed over the years. Right, right, right. You know, so I don't need a splatter painting, you know, and then, you know, if you if you did get the good equipment and it was really revealing and it showed all this nasty stuff, you know, it just intensified your phobia so much. You might never stay at home.

29:26 You don't know what fluid it is that to. It just has proteins in it. Yeah. Jeez.

29:33 So it can be just about anything that you and being can excrete. Oh, there's a guy that I know. It was just a guy that, like, gutted a fish in there. It wasn't. It's not really. You know, this isn't blood splatter from a murder. No, no, I, I used to believe that. Wow. Look at that. Look at that.

29:51 Sadness right there. The big flat screen TV box with a bunch of broken glass. It's like. It's like dashed dreams, man. Yeah.

30:04 It's like so many people's potential dreams. Just. Just like the baby died and broke the TV. Yeah. The shortest story. What? I forgot what the source of it was, but I think I remember it, For sale. Baby shoes never worn. Oh, shit. Like the shortest story ever told or something like, I don't know. Nice six word story.

30:29 Nice. I forgot where I heard that one time, but it's like a pretty good one, though. Yeah it is. Obviously it's been stuck with me. Oh, yeah. Definitely for sale. Baby shoes, never warm, but the shortest person Bible being Jesus wept. Okay, you know why the short first, it's only two words, you know, it's like, you know, knowing your God, like in in human form, like the embodiment of God.

31:00 And, you know, I think you would cry. It's like you're one and the same. How is that supposed to really work? I don't really get it. This duality that's really hard to pass. You know, it's a connection to the physical, but also being metaphysical, being part of a trio, but somehow being separated from that trio. But you having to make your way, you still know you're immortal.

31:22 Like, yeah, yeah. So doesn't that kind of take the sting out of the whole death thing? I'm sure he took the sting out of the whole dead thing, but it probably didn't take the sting out of the whole pain thing. Maybe. Or I don't know your fucking God. I mean, what the hell? Just maybe it's not why I believe that stuff.

31:41 I'm saying, okay, if we're just suspension of disbelief here, we believe that someone can exist in this duality. If they do exist in this duality, they feel that pole. It's like a tug of war, that all the things you feel with the normalcy of life versus all those things that from a higher plane of experience that has to be painful, that has to wrench you apart.

32:09 Yeah, I guess so.

32:12 I don't know. So like, let's say you knew for sure. Like for sure. Like there's no doubt you had some kind of way to know I was a divine providence. Yeah. That or reincarnations were real, let's say. Right. Like you just know. Right. Like 100%. That's like those windows being open. Those curtains are like two showing too much.

32:34 Yeah. Like I don't want to I don't want to see into their house like that. Well, I feel like they're moving out. And that's the last of the shit they got to move. Hopefully it looked like it didn't. Yeah. So anyway, like, you know, let's say that you knew for 100% chance that reincarnation was a real thing. So, like you're coming back, right?

32:52 And I'm also, if I knew it was a real thing, I'd also want to be aware of all the past lives saying, okay, so, you know, since we're in Imagination Land, we can make it however we want to say you are okay. Yeah, because what's the point? It's not aware of it. Yeah. So let's say you are aware of the past lives and you know, your death is imminent.

33:11 And it kind of takes away a little bit of the worry. Right? Like, so, you know, you're just coming back as some of the schmuck. Yeah. And so, you know, who gives a fuck? Maybe that's why let's just go with what he did do and he was up there. If we're going to believe all of it. He was dying.

33:29 Yeah. And he says, Lord, basically forgive the two people to the left and right of me and also.

33:39 Forgive.

33:45 Forgive those who have done this to me, for they know not what they do. Yeah. Sounds nice. So, you know, hey, in a minute. Physical pain, but able to faint on the other side and say, look, I know where these people are headed. Let me pave the way for them. Let me say to hell, no to heaven. Oh, okay.

34:08 Because if they're fully forgiven, right. They can ascend to heaven. Sure. So. So we're. So. It's all done, man. We got nothing else to worry about. It's all done. Said and done. Well, just depends on what camp you're in. If you're in a camp that once you're baptized, you're good to go forever. Once saved, always saved. Sure, if you're in the camp that it's a relationship you must groom.

34:37 What, you playing golf in the dark? Yeah. What is that, like a dog fetching it or something? Thinks it.

34:46 How strange this morning is, but. Okay. Cool. So you're in that camp of once they've always saved or here in the campus. It's a relationship I have to maintain. It's a ever changing, dynamic thing that I have to, you know, keep meeting the standards, keep asking for forgiveness. You know, the two strings. Okay. That's pretty cool, man.

35:15 If it's, you know. So you are. You're coming back, you know, type thing or never going away, having to look at it. Right. You're just like like your body. You shed the mortal coil, whatever you wanna call it. You're sure? But you have this, like, you know, enduring spirit that's never going to die, you know, let's say. I mean, that would make life a lot nicer, wouldn't it?

35:40 Kind of makes life, though, like, pointless. I feel like it makes it less of a feeling. Like less of a waste. Do you get to hit the button or possibly the pause button? If on the corners? You can just keep going? Yeah. And it's like, all right. So this life was pretty short. I died at 42 or something, so.

36:04 Well, so what I'm saying is, all right, got a bunch of stuff that I didn't learn that I didn't get to do. I'd like to do it next time. Sure. Okay. Kind of takes the sting out of it. Yeah. Kind of also takes away any kind of sense of urgency or importance or. Well, maybe that would make us take the longer view on the environment, on the world, on things in general.

36:27 Maybe we would be kinder to our world if we knew. We kept coming back to use it again. Isn't it kind of the other way, like because, you know, if you're this like, you know, known, internal, eternal, then what would you care? Like, the earth can be in flames. You're just going to exist as a spirit forever anyway.

36:45 Like so. This is just a this is just a rock. I mean, I would hope that it would help you, you know? Okay. Even if it's just a rock who wants to be. I guess I've never been on corporeal, so I don't know. Yeah, right. But how did we get talking about this? I don't know, but who would want to stay non-corporate for the rest of the eternity?

37:09 Yeah, I don't know, like, you know, want to miss out on it. Whole swath of possible experience. You've encountered these people that are, like, super religious and they think that, like, death is the ultimate, you know, good thing. Yeah. You know, because like, oh, that just means you go to heaven and all this, right? I'm free of all this, you know?

37:28 But they don't want their kids to die, right? Which is like, completely proving what they're what they're saying is exactly like, I don't. Have you ever seen Christianity doesn't boil down to a death cult. It's not that simple. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. It'd be a short lived religion, wouldn't it? Right. No pun intended. So that's an interesting topic because, you know, I have this theory, which is, pretty arrogant, but theory nonetheless that, like, people that even are seriously seem like very seriously devout.

38:04 Kind of like, no inside that it's just make believe. Maybe so like, just to what extent? Like so sure, some people have really bought into it and they're like almost completely sold on the idea. But I think that they withhold like the small reservation of like kind of common sense or like, come on, you know, we know that there's a certain fluids and things were to happen.

38:28 They'd be able to admit to themselves and others the degree of bullshit they're expecting. That's kind of what I'm saying. Yeah. And and so I like, you know, it's arrogant for me because I'm not a believer. I know I realize it's extremely arrogant to dismiss someone's claim to beliefs. Well, like we've talked about before, when you get into outright dismissal of things, you have no more productive conversation to have.

38:52 True. So true. But, but, but I've had so I've had this conversation so many times right over the years that I'm like, kind of over it, like I used to be. I used to like get in, get into it, you know, like like discussing these ideas. Didn't you hear the same replies over and over and over and over that.

39:11 Yeah. Same replies. And also like this. Just.

39:18 Resistance to logic, resistance to anything that you were to come up with and say, right, you know, such a strong resistance that it's just stomping your feet like they're not able to handle holding two opposing I in their mind. And I'd argue to say adherence to a single philosophy, unswerving like that doesn't give you the machinery to deal with cognitive dissonance.

39:47 You can't do that because you've not practiced it. Yeah. And, and I was so good. I got so good at the craft of like debating, you know, and, and not necessarily ridiculing but coming up with it, coming up with all these, you know, exceptions, counter counters. Yeah. That I was like known for running the creatures off of campus.

40:06 Yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah I do, and then I, then I that one dude was an absolute moron. And so then I started thinking like, you know what? What's the point? What's the point? Right. You know, I felt like I felt like I was protecting these these, you know, other people like these, these fellow students. I'm, like, protecting them from these, you know, evangelists that are sitting there calling the girls sluts and all the people that may waylay them, send them off a path of intellectual discovery and understanding.

40:36 Yeah. But really, I was just being like the counter, the, the, the dick and the other direction, you know, and I mean, maybe some of that's true, but, you know, I think they were better off being exposed to both sides in theory. Yeah. So these are the best, like unkind of planned topic topics. Yeah, I love them. They're great.

41:01 Yeah.