Hoarding & Self-Deprecation
March 21, 2022 · Kris Tyte & Sean Snodgrass

Hoarding & Self-Deprecation

In this episode of Positively Pedestrian, we discuss the war in Ukraine, how sanctions are used and not used in geopolitics, our experiences with hoarders, stealing from a church, how some people can believe anything such as the idea that birds aren't real, the preaching of the prosperity doctrine and how to hack raffles to do a bit better than probability.

Quotable
“Somebody who's been in power for decades getting dethroned by the people that helped put them there. ”
— Sean Snodgrass
Highlights cyclical power dynamics where leaders are eventually challenged by the same systems that elevated them, reflecting historical patterns of political and institutional turnover.
Listener Q&A
Host asks…
What would happen if global sanctions were consistently applied to all nations engaging in conflict?
Contextual Analysis’s Response
While theoretically promoting fairness, enforcement would likely be uneven due to geopolitical power imbalances, making universal application difficult in practice.
Quotable
“We were going there to open up the economy to Western influence. ”
— Sean Snodgrass
Frames military intervention as a mechanism for economic expansion, reflecting critiques that geopolitical actions often align with market access goals.
Follow Up Notes
Globalization Insight says…
Research supports that multinational corporations often act as vectors of cultural and economic integration following geopolitical shifts, accelerating globalization.
Follow Up Notes
Governance Insight says…
Policy proposals for global compliance systems exist but raise concerns around sovereignty, enforcement fairness, and potential misuse by dominant powers.
Quotable
“Imagine if Microsoft had, like, a back door and they, like, shut down every computer running Windows. ”
— Kris Tyte
Illustrates concerns around centralized technological control and the potential risks of relying on dominant software ecosystems.
Follow Up Notes
Social Media Insight says…
Verified cases show that restricting access to platforms like Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter can alter information flow and public sentiment during conflicts and political events.
Photo
Infographic comparing international retail environments, illustrating the widespread adoption of global brands and shared consumer behavior patterns.
Global consumer culture similarities
Follow Up Notes
Psychological Insight says…
Clinical research links hoarding disorder to trauma, anxiety, and attachment-related issues, often triggered by significant life events or loss.
Photo
Infographic illustrating the COM-B model of behavior change, showing how capability, opportunity, and motivation interact to influence behavior.
COM-B behavior change model
Follow Up Notes
Technology Insight says…
Verified incidents during the Russia-Ukraine conflict included low-quality deepfakes used in attempted misinformation campaigns, highlighting evolving digital threats.
Quotable
“His head didn't fit his body. ”
— Sean Snodgrass
Reflects early limitations of deepfake technology, where visual inconsistencies reveal manipulated media content.
Quotable
“Tell people there's an invisible man in the sky who created the universe, and the vast majority will believe you. Tell them the paint is wet, and they have to touch it to be sure. ”
— George Carlin
Critiques human tendencies toward belief without evidence and skepticism toward immediate, verifiable information.
Photo
Infographic illustrating four stages of self-deprecating humor, progressing from insecurity to self-awareness and eventual acceptance.
Stages of self-deprecating humor
Quotable
“No good deed goes unpunished. ”
— Kris Tyte
Reflects a cynical observation that positive actions can sometimes lead to unintended negative consequences.
Quotable
“Yeah, they might have won the $500 at the blackjack table, but then they lost the 20 grand, right? ”
— Kris Tyte
Illustrates cognitive bias in gambling, where small wins are remembered while larger losses are minimized or ignored.
Photo
Infographic illustrating how centralized digital systems influence communication, financial systems, and governance structures globally.
Centralized digital infrastructure control

Full Transcript

I've been very excited about, Basically somebody who's been in power for decades, getting their up, their, you know, running. Yeah. Being dethroned, by the people that, they helped put in power to begin with. I mean, all the oligarchs. Yeah. All the oligarchs are getting picked off. I wonder, do you think you think if all of them get together, they have enough collective power to to boot?

I don't know, that's the question. Or is he entrenched himself well, soon. Well, the rumor is, that, at least the rumor that's out on the public political stage, the. I have access to. Yeah, that they're looking at installing someone else. And the incendiary part of this is that it's the Ukraine Intel chief. Oh, my goodness, it's so.

Yeah, maybe not true. Sorry. That'd be ironic. Right? Right. But yeah. So I don't know, I, I do think it's about time for somebody who ran, the intelligence agencies for decades and has been president for 22 years to, give up some power. Yeah, I've been doing my own thing, so I don't really know. I'm not really up on it.

I mean, what's the latest? How's the war going? Is it going badly for for the Russians? It is. They have, I can't remember the name of the drones right now, but they've just been given about. A thousand, of these, all 24 inch size drones that are basically kamikaze drones. Okay, sure. And, they're anti-tank. They've been doing everything from grandmas making Molotov cocktails to,

And they even issued a state recipe for a molotov cocktail. Oh my goodness. And they're they're using social media to the hilt. Like, everybody has pulled out of, Russia as far as selling things to them, the economy is going to hell. They there's rumors that they had been asking, China for basic rations. Wow. And, there's also they've been shut out of Swift, which, it's basically a bad I know, I don't even know.

Okay. That one. Yeah, yeah. And they've been swift so that that they're moving money around. They're moving money. They've been, Apple stopped selling their Microsoft. Stop selling their, Nike, all sorts of companies. BP pulled out of a $14 billion investment in oil. They've been sanctioned as far as oil exports. They're not allowed to, the pipeline has been shut down.

They're Russian oil pipeline. Wow. They went through Germany, I believe. You know, they're they're filling the economic squeeze. Well, let's hope they don't feel like they're back. So against the wall that they do something stupid. Yes, exactly. But they've been Russian stocks have been delisted from all the major exchanges. U.S. and London, Jewish, the they are.

Last Wednesday, they were about to default on $14 billion of the loans. That's crazy. So like, imagine if the world did that to us when we went into Iraq. Right. And arguably, should they have? Yes. The interesting prospect in it. No, that maybe we be less more warmongering assholes. This becomes the new normal. Like the UN basically has the power to do this to any nation that decided they want to unilaterally, you know, attacks on their nation.

Yeah, they want to least the world, so to speak. Well that's crazy. It so so yeah, I mean, I don't I just can't imagine that happening to us. Like there's no way we would stand for it. But I know who knew it was Russia. Who knows what the future holds? Russia doesn't have a choice. Would we have a choice?

What? Or no. Like, isn't that why we. We run all that stuff? That's true. That's why we run Swift. All right, so why we run the International Monetary Fund? Pretty good strategic advantage there, right? Yeah. So we'll go to war with whoever we want and open up new economies, you know. Hey. Yeah. That's really it. Right. That was the whole idea.

I mean, you explain that to me at length. I did not understand that, that we were going there to basically open up the economy to Western. You right. Yeah. Now, you know, in Iraq, all of our products and services sell there. Now. It's so fucking crazy. Oh, speaking of that McDonald's, even pulled out of Russia. Okay. I mean, I feel like McDonald's is like the harbinger of all things Western to come, right?

Right. But goals are right. It's all coming, right? That's probably a pretty big expenditure to like, you know, for a fast food global fast food chain to pull out of a major crunch, crunch. It has to be it has to be. And then, Burger King, they officially close out. But their franchisee that owns them all, you said, fuck you.

I'm not closing.

All right, you bet. That sounds very American and Russian. Right? Yeah, yeah. So it's it's interesting, like, maybe this this brave new world of the future where, you know, any kind of aggression or, you know, then then, you know, a slippery slope type argument. Where does that end up going? You know, how how far down the rabbit hole does that go?

So, like, not just aggression, but you know, we don't like a trade policy. Ooh. So we say, you know, sanctions you know, or whatever. Yeah. You know, and if you go by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, we could start saying, you know, create a scorecard for basically every nation. They and, whatever nation doesn't, you know, reach a certain score, gets proportional sanctions.

Well, you know, type thing here. You can imagine, like the system where, you know, kind of like nations are made to be obedient hell to this really fine tuned right array of sanctioning. Yeah, yeah. Like look, parallel is pretty powerful. Yeah. The committee got together. Agreed. You don't meet these, you're sanctioned and this myriad of ways, you're kind of shut down.

Imagine if Microsoft have, like, a back door and they, like, shut down every computer running windows. Oh, shit. That pissed off, right? I'd like to say they didn't, but no, so long as they have a way to shut down the, the, internet so that, like, nobody can get a Linux distro either. Right? Right, right. Like, there is no operating system anymore.

All your computers are dead. It's like we've effectively brick everything. Could you imagine? Like, a whole nation that's, like, modernized. It can't get on, can't get on YouTube or TikTok or anything. Oh. Oh, yeah, the young people would be going nuts. So Facebook and Instagram pulled out to what? They just shut off the services. Yeah. Why can't you just get it though like via VPN, I imagine.

Yeah, I would imagine but then would you know what Russia did in retaliation? I said, well, we banned Twitter. We'll show you. Yeah. That's pretty epic. We're in control. Yeah, exactly. Jesus Christ, everyone, you know, it was so weird when I was in Russia. It was just like, you know, it didn't seem like anything.

It is just some, like, another European, you know, place. Okay. Yeah. I didn't know you like Eastern European. Feel. Yeah. It didn't feel at all like, you know, I don't know dictatorship because Apple. So it was like the same old fucking strip mall. The whole place is a strip mall. Just like. Just like in the United States.

I've heard there's a lot of. Right? Yeah. Like you need to be prepared to bribe there. I don't know, maybe I wasn't doing that kind of business, so. Okay, that didn't apply to me. Cool. But from, like, you know, the outside looking in kind of as a tourist, it was just I didn't see anything the same as everything.

Yeah. That's awesome. I didn't see anything strange at all. You know, the McDonald's, KFC, Krispy Kreme fridge, all the, you know, Levi, all the brands. Thank the same brands that you'd find down, you know, New York's. Yeah. Fifth Street or whatever. Right, right. Or whatever. It's golf. I don't know. Yeah. So it's like it's just one big kind of, I don't know, shopping malls.

The best way to say strip mall. Well, yeah. And it was, it was the same there as it was in the States, same way it is Europe. And where I've gone has been the same, the, the same monument to consumerism. Yeah, man. It's like, you know, you expect it to be everything's gray. You know, everyone's wearing a, government suit uniform, you know?

Right? Right. Yeah. That's like the propaganda that you'd expect. But instead everybody's wearing Levi's and, hanging out. Yeah, there's, like, check your papers at every checkpoint and shit. Right? That's what you expect. Yeah, but instead, it's just, you know, to our standards, normal Western humanism. That's definitely the propaganda we've been fed in. And one thing I noticed is, like, there seem to be a little more drinking.

But it is, you know, it was a little fucking colder there than that. Than what have you. You, sir, were trying to make sure it's only a feel like you're going to drink a little more if it's a lot colder. But maybe it was like the way the, custom. What, like the culture was like. Maybe they didn't hide it as much as we do in the States, you know, because it is taboo here.

Yeah. It's like, you know, hide it in the pantry or no or no one ever goes behind the cupcakes. Right? You got the liquor cabinet? Cuckoo kitchen. How about if we're not getting away from school busses? It's impossible. Oh, yeah. That's never happened. I think I just got lucky for doing this all the way through.

Right. But, friend of mine who has hoarding tendencies that have been helping her clean your house. She had a liquor cabinet, right. But we went in there. You could read it up, but no longer had wrote in that to interrupt you. I hope that's something nobody ever says about me. This guy, this guy, according to.

Yeah. I'm sorry. You do not compare to this one. It is obvious. Like it is borderline. We could call one of those shows. Really? Yeah. Oh, and, boy, that's pretty harsh. Her, her mom died, like, over a decade ago. Her dad died before that, and she just seems to have a seeing. Somebody suffers a loss. Exactly.

And the next thing you know, their grandma leads to it. You know, don't let anything go. Surrounding himself with the stuff, especially stuff of nostalgia. You know, the mythology stuff makes sense. But, you know. Oh, that was the that was the hankie that that blew his nose in, you know, I know, yeah. You know, I, I'm not so sure about that.

Right. So we've gotten the kitchen cleaned up and that's why her liquor cabinet was, well, we had gotten rid of she had gotten rid of before I got there. A mouse infestation. Well said. Mice crapped all over this liquor cabinet. Damn drunk mice. Right? Wiring. Jeez, there was a whole bunch of trollers that had all these Tupperware.

Had them, shit all over all of them. I made her get rid of absolutely every bit of it. Of course, it was a struggle. But once I cleaned the whole, these idea, there. Yeah. She was. Won't get rid of her. So you can imagine, like, a house full of just. Even if it's just papers and, you know, whatever.

Just stuff. But imagine, like it off gassing to some extent to be like, you know, like your air quality has to be reduced. Yeah. I got to put a filter, an air filtration thing in there and get me focus. So she got a pure air purifier, and it still stinks in there. I think it's mold. Damn. Yeah.

I mean, naturally, anything that has any kind of organic fiber can, you know, organic material, organic fiber. Here's the compose. Going to going to mold up. Yeah. And decompose over time. Yeah. That's why people, I guess put things like in plastic and mouth mothballs and shit to try to preserve it. Good point. The point, you know, but still, like when you have, you know, that 30 dimension, right?

Like stuff pile on top of stuff. On top stuff. Yeah. And, you know, you had a high humidity day where a lot of humidity got in there. Everything gets, you know, saturated to that to some extent. That's a good point. And so then yeah. And so that and then it's going to hold and trap the moisture because it's, you know three dimensionally the volume.

Yeah. Yeah. That makes so much sense. So we've got two rooms clean and functional out of so so what is how does she react to the clean rooms. She's happy. Yeah. Oh so she's like she's going to change. Yes. Once she started seeing results I say like she can do yoga in front of her TV now. And we have a brand new rug there, and we have a curio cabinet with the things that we found in the living room.

Okay. All right, all right. Cool, cool. It's working out great. That's good to hear. It's like, nice to hear success stories of these times. I sure as hell didn't think it was going to when I started. Gosh, it yeah, those kind of things I guess like when you first look at them, the overwhelming is like, start with the first bin type thing.

Yep. So we've got the only thing left in living rooms like eight bins left, but they're in bins. Everything's in bins. Beautiful. And it all in the kitchen in the kitchen doesn't have so much poop in it. So you've had a percentage bar over the top of the house. Top of the apartment. What percentage bar would it be?

I'd say probably 30. Okay. And on the way to normal. Yeah. And then oh man, that's pretty good. So it's very noticeable. Yeah. One of the most registered three rooms functional out of six. Gotcha. I've seen that hoarding show actually on TV where they have like these just people that are, you know, and they and it's weird. It's like they, really don't strong arm per se.

No. They try to get them to do everything willingly. Yeah. And I guess the whole idea is if they do it well, it's more likely to stick. I see, I don't know. And then it makes you wonder like, you know, is just, is it just a made for TV thing, you know. Right. But the volume of stuff some of these people have no right, you know.

Yeah. It's like if you imagine paying the full retail value of all those things, you know. Yeah. It's like, not that you're ever going to recovery of it, but no, no, but but it was a and stuff in the lower. And that's what people are saying. You know when they're wanting to hold on to it. I could sell that.

I could sell that. Yeah. Go. Good luck. He right where you maybe can, but not for anything that you think it's worth. Like, you know, you pay 100 bucks for it. You're going to get $5 for. Yes, yes. That's it. Or you might have to sell it in a lot with ten other hats for $7. Yeah. That's right, that's right.

Yeah. And then, you know, that's kind of like a kick in the gut punch because you know, this perception that's the thing. It's it's your perception getting bang getting destroyed. Yeah. And some people from what I understand they have that big hoarding situation like like they don't even see it. Like they don't see it as hoarding. Yeah. They see just like their stuff.

Yeah. I'm collector. I'm a collector. I, you know. Yeah. There you go. Give it a name. Yeah, yeah. Well, so, you know, I've seen people. What do you people. Actually, I'm not going to name any names, but, sir, there's people that you both know that I've been to their house, and I don't think you have to wear.

Probably they're in the same situation. In fact, there's one dude that's, like, buried alive, man. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I never been that bad of seeing that bad situation. Yeah, I brought him a replacement refrigerator. The refrigerator went out, and I told them that I would, he's older, so I told them not only would I, you know, bring the new one over for him, but I would, install it, you know, like the ice maker and all that.

That's so cool. Yeah. And, I didn't know what I was getting into. Oh. So first of all, we had to dig a tunnel, like, to the spot where the fridge was gone. Dang. What was two hours to move? Enough stuff out of the way, you know? Yep. It's bulky, you know, appliance. Yeah. So you got to clear out a big tunnel.

Yeah. To get get the other old one out in the new one in. Yeah. And the clutter had actually like gone to the outside like made it to the outside outdoors. But it was behind a fence, wooden fence that you couldn't see, sir. Oh. Okay. So you didn't know it was coming until you opened up the gate to the fence, and you were right there.

Yeah. And the gate opens, like, halfway and then starts hitting stuff, you know, you're like, what's going on this gate? And then you realized pretty quick what's going on. Oh, shit. I am proud of this neighborhood, that they had not had to do anything to the glass windows. It jerks almost every other church around here. You've been around for a while and have protected your glass window.

Protected them from what? I'm guessing from people breaking them too. Oh, you got a broken window situation. You hear it? Broken windows. Nobody mean in general? Oh, yeah. Yeah. A lot of interesting room here. I guess people had decided they wanted to break into still stuff. You maybe a certain point in your life, you just Robert Church. Yeah.

Dude, that's a that's a low. That's. I don't know if you can go a lot lower in your burglar burglary light these like from a church. It's like you're bringing you're bringing the pipes to a pipe organ to the recycling center. Shouldn't that suspicious. And the thing is, there's the recycling center. Care? Yes. You're doing. Sir, where did you get these?

Oh, you know, my grandma was really likes playing the organ. All right.

You know, it's like, such a distinct thing that, you know, could only be from one source. Right then. And I'm sure they have to reject the report stuff all the time. I mean, after you take, like, the goblet or something. Yeah. Hey, like, what are you doing? Stealing wooden views, you know, like, I mean, I'm guessing they're breaking up.

They have vaults. Because, I mean, come on, they're keeping money in there after somebody's collection. That's you. They. Oh. On where? Yeah. Someone breaks into the church, like expecting a big pile of money. Like freaking bad money. Like just in the middle of it. Yeah. This is their. It's like, right, stored in the altar or something. Well, I mean, it would be more consistent with what it really is about.

It would at least like at least are not like because it's such a monument. The money though, they remove the money. Yeah. In God we trust. Yeah, yeah. Oh, damn. That was delicious, I like that. Open that one up. Yeah. Let's try over there. Let's go over this way, see what happens. I like it. Let me get away with it.

Well, we got to stay away from that big road. Are also, like, contaminate our audio stream. Like, damn it. Like, the occasional car is like, you know, in a way, kind of nice. Yes. You know, breaks it up. Yeah. Let you know that or the jet doesn't. We could be at a studio doing this shit. No, but, you know, and this dubbing in this bad sounds.

Yeah, yeah. Trying to make it, you know. Yeah. Dubbing in the sound of my thighs rubbing against each other.

We won't talk about. We will talk about what it looked like when we were recording their sound.

If someone just saw the city lights, they think that we were so freaky. People.

All right, this is another. Well, maybe. What? We go back. For you remember this evening, Austin Powers or the like inside the tent. And they have the light on? Yeah. And and the the Navy guys or whatever. Or watching this, like, what they perceive is like this terrible. The porn. Yeah. Yeah. Like something hard. That's what it was like, you know, the sound equipment.

You're trying to record your thighs in this video.

No, no, no. It's okay. We'll dub out the sound of the treadmill. Just getting the bass. Oh, dear Lord, that's terrifying. Yeah it is. It scared the hell out of me. But that's the thing about, you know, 2022, we talked about deepfakes and also the kind of stuff everything's like a fracking show, you know? Like, right. Like everything's nothing's real.

Oh, another thing, somebody created a really bad deepfake of of, Ukraines President Zelenskyy. Oh, really? Oh, it's a rendering or something. Well, no. Is there's some statement he didn't make. It was on the way towards the render. But they created a really bad deepfake and they hijack Ukrainian TV station to display it. Wow. That's different. Yeah.

And that's unusual. Very unusual. It's just open. Yeah, I think they they're probably loading it. They have to be with their actors. So. Yeah, man, I thought that was interesting. But it was such an obvious thing. Like his head didn't fit his body. Yeah, I, I know he's his body's completely still and just this mouth area is moving.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's like a deepfake that I would make. Yeah. Is there. Yeah. It must have been in an hour or so. Right. And that's totally how it had to have been done. Some general was like, you, you do it. It's like the it's like the intro to SpongeBob when they have the mouse talking on the pirate captain.

That's that's the Zelensky deepfake. But it was a result of it under the sea. I was I was thinking of alternate lyrics for Russia. Yeah. Oh. Who's coming to take over and invade me? Vladimir Putin. Riding the Baron and Dorable is he had a boom in. I can go on something so that about rolling over and showing your soft underbelly.

I don't know. Could he. Yeah. Now, now I'm curious to see those, like, little drone things that fly down and kill tanks and kill airplanes. There's probably some video out there, I guess if you created, like, this canvas in the sky, if it's all these drones and there's these kamikaze, you know, it's got the local wider built into them or whatever.

Yeah, I know, it's like fine grain, all these things and all of a sudden just rocket like, super speed. So, like, they're up high, like gliding around like a hawk. Yeah. Like using almost no power. Yeah. And then as soon as they get the target, they hit the booster. Oh, you you you bad ass. Yeah. It would like in a stereo way,

I've always wanted the set up like a domestic drone to perch atop power lines and charge via induction and spy. Yeah. Birds aren't real. Hey. Right, right. Yeah. It's like they're all spy drones. You know, the person that started the birds are a real thing. You know about that, right? No, I don't, okay. So there's, like, this group of people driving around with vehicles like wraps.

You know, how they put the graphic wraps on vehicles? Yeah. And the wrap on the vehicle says birds aren't real. Real. It's like the idea is that all birds are nothing but modern surveillance. What the fuck? Yeah, right. So, like, you're getting people to. They believe it. Just like flat earth, And I don't know how prevalent it is or how much they've got traction, but I've seen it.

I've seen like, Okay. I mean, I really feel like that's just an outgrowth of never having been outside, never seen Azure Bird, never. Oh, the injured bird is just, you know, the CIA is going to come and collect it and replace it with a good. Okay, so the injured bird with its guts leaking out, they're going to come replace the guts.

I mean, oh, the guts is just a high sensitive microphone array. Oh. Got it. So it's a they're really just biological cyborgs that have been tuned to the uses of the CIA. Oh, yeah. Okay. Convincingly down to a tier. Right. Like it's it's nanotech. So you can't even, even if you caught a bird and dissected it, you couldn't even find the tech in.

Wow. Who knows? You know, you can basically clearly get people to believe anything. I mean, like Christianity. Oh, shit. Shots fired. Well, more than that, that was like a that was like a dirty bomb. Well, like George Carlin said, you got people to believe that there's an invisible man. He's up in the sky. He watches everything you do every second of every day.

I love this character in dogma. Yeah, I do, I actually see that. Oh, so he was a he use a Catholic priest? Oh, boy. And he was in charge of this new marketing campaign to improve relations of the Catholic Church. And it was called Bloody Christ. You know, you're on to something. When you got George Carlin playing Private Reese.

Yeah. It was fucking amazing. That's funny. And the Christ, the Christ, statue they had, he's, like, winking at you, pointing the finger at Jews on his role. And there was this one, one article, like, it's like the Guardian or something. And it was this, this like, 30ft baby Jesus that they had at some church down in South America somewhere, like, and the baby Jesus was just like, no crowds.

Yeah, you're totally right. Like, we had to let in content to our like, you did, like, kind of blog as well as podcast. Yeah. I think, you know, like to add this kind of content. So when you talk about it, people are going, oh no man, I got to go see that shit. Yeah, I can see they're going to want to see a 30ft baby.

Jesus, it looks like Phil Collins. Yeah. It's like one of those rare times where I'm, like, literally laughing out loud by myself with a maniac, you know? You know, something's good when you're, like, alone and laughing. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Because, like, it's easy when someone else's all else is around, right? Because, like, you want to laugh. It's like a queue, you know, that year.

But unfortunately, I'm that kind of maniac that last by myself all the time. My brother called you even called it out. He was like, I was, okay, you're one of those guys. All right, all right. I learned something about you today, right? I, I texted, I was texting both of my brothers, and I said, lol. This was years ago, like 15 years ago.

Cults like, you know, Sean though, he probably is really laughing out loud by himself. That's great. I was like, I am, I totally have. All right, well when you're Rose LTT whatever you wrong when you're wear ruffling then you had a real problem. Then that's like we're like you know issue whatever ruffle probably. Yeah. Wait it would have a medical condition.

Yeah. Like straight up. Probably not. Solution. Right? I have to admit though, I have laughed so hard that I've, like, doubled over. Yeah, yeah. You know, and I've laughed so hard to where it's like the next day my cheeks and my stomach hurt. True. Refill. Like you pulled her out? Yeah. That's definitely happened. Yeah. So we're like, you know, literally like my cheeks on my face are sore like those muscles, you know?

So let's save money. We're magnetized. The school bus is the family. We are. We track them. Yeah. So, Yeah. I've never like, you know, in the quarter, like the 35 year old man I know. Right? It's got 24 years of education. He did the 12th grade twice.

That's a great joke. Yeah I have 16 years education. They period partner. Yeah. You got to be smart enough to at least know double the number is right. It's all right to make the joke. So I mean, you know, you it and self-deprecating humor is always funny. Oh yes. It when, when when you get to the point where, like, there's, like stages of self-deprecating humor.

Yeah, right. The first stage is like someone says something and kind of rib jabs you, and it's pretty fucking good. Like, they, they they got you like they nailed you with something, right? Yeah. And like stage one of learning how to be self-deprecating is like, learning how to laugh at that, but you don't really mean it, right?

But you just go through the motions. Well, I think you sincerely mean it enough. They. Right. You're alone. Right? You've gotten to this phase where you can fake that. That didn't piss you off, right? Right. But then you're back in my mother fucker. And you long in a way, you're like, you gotta. Oh, my worth of revenge. Let me find out later than I'm a kidney match.

Fuck you all the, Let's do good as do fucking good. Damn right. I was just thinking to myself. It's good thinking. We take different lives every day because I'm loud. Okay? Because these are some people that some people that, like, you know, live in. They really value their early morning sweets. Yeah. They you've now arisen three times, right?

They're going to be out on their porch with a shotgun. Damn.

Yeah. If you're going to go, I might as well go all the way right. So but I was, I was going to do that. So yeah, the next stage of self-deprecation is, you know, giant dump truck comes right now. So this is the sound of a garbage truck at 6:00 in the morning. Dump truck? Yeah. Right.

Serial number SN 962. There you go. There we go. Anyway, so step two of self-deprecation is when it's like, you actually, trigger something. You know, you stumble upon something on your own, like you're at home or whatever, and you do something really stupid, and you're like, say some pejorative things to yourself, like, oh, I'm such a dumb ass, right?

And then like, snicker about it. That's like phase two. That's when you're you're starting to ease into getting comfortable, right? Making fun of do so. Right. Let's say two. And then stage three is like four stages of this. Right. So when you say three, you tell everybody about the stupid thing you did. It ended up not no, that's a good one.

But stage three is like someone someone gets a good one in on you and you laugh. But this time you really think it's funny, right? That stage three. Well, you got that deep belly laugh like, yeah, let's take a bull. Jesus. He's aggravated. Yeah. And you're not finished. And you don't like it, right? Yeah, right. That's that stage theory.

You're almost there, right. And then stage for the final stage is that you just lose all hope. You look at the mirror and you realize you're a complete fucking failure, but you're okay with that. Yeah. You come to terms with it over the years. And so, you know, now you're also like just laughing consistently at yourself in and out of every day.

That's the fourth and final stage I believe I'm at that stage is I, I'm consistently for many years termed myself as God's joke. I'm trying for me. I think I'm somewhere around stage two to have three. Hey, I respect that it's a journey, but you're probably more advanced than me. The reason I am so more advanced is, like you said you were talking about, you know, like, technology seems to hate you.

Like. Yeah, yeah, it does. Technology is not the only thing. Wait, that wasn't a route. Yeah, that was direct observation. It is a direct observation. And it's true. So there is these truisms that swirl around in my life that I've just had to accept it enough that, you know, I be at the end of the day that that's what, like, makes you incredibly awesome at it, is that you had so much troubleshooting like troubleshooting is the norm.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, the causes say to troubleshoot. So you're awesome at it. Like you're getting God level without even, you know, just two things are fucked up. Yeah. I mean, I usually know 3 or 4 ways to do everything. Okay. That's like that's like like street homelessness, right. Like you've you've you're actually making it happen. You know, you're surviving, right?

Right. You're getting by. Like, you know what? You know what is really cold? Where to go. You know where we know where to get that meal. Right. Know. And, you're like savvy. You can, like, get that money pretty damn quick every day on the street, right? Yeah. One way or the other. You have like some you have these, like 5 or 6 steady, reliable conduits to get your money.

Yeah, right. Or your food or whatever you need. Right. So, like, you're in a constant mode of, like, survival and and figuring shit out, like problem solving. Yeah. Right. Dude, it was so funny. This day, we encountered this, neighborhood homeless guy, and in Johnny, he is all, yo, Johnny. Johnny, Johnny. Sorry. Oh, not Johnny Anderson. Johnny. Paul.

This. I thought that maybe it was like that. That, guy that was, I don't know, like, what was he, some kind of opera singer, like, heartthrob like that, right? He was like some regal European heartthrob with long black hair in this epic pedophile mustache. Yeah, it's in, like, workouts and he's hanging drywall. I'm Florida, and then the drinking problem just cost too much now.

And so now he's on the street. So I didn't know I was in your neighborhood. That's you, you know, visiting Moose Carolina. That's fucked up, man. If you like, give money to a homeless person and have their CD at home, it's pretty fucked up. Yeah, it is very like somebody had a bad record label. Did that record deal, right?

Or their manager stole the cash. Something. That's what I'm saying. Bad record deal. Yeah, exactly. They are sure to read that contract a little more. You know, than a game like a rented Lamborghini or rented house. You know, is in the repo. Man comes now. He's like the MC hammer. Oh, yeah. And if he hammers next face, he became a he became a preacher.

Oh. The second some second best source of money. I mean, even, Kanye did that. That's right. And Kanye got himself out of debt and became a billionaire by being a preacher. And I don't know how he combines. Oh, I think about it, but there you go. So as you're with the cash, is that it does it does that invisible man's guy that always needs money is really good at extracting it.

He is his thing. It's like, yeah, man. Prosperity. Preaching for the wind. Hey, into the blessing, y'all. The prosperity doctor. Prosperity. Appreciate. That's something else, man. It is, isn't it? I saw one on YouTube where this guy, like, they're putting the money out on stage and they're, like, rolling in that shit. Oh, my God, I kidding. You, like, for real?

Like like literally. Was that Buffalo dollar doing that? I don't know who I was. Okay. Then there's this other one of this guy talking about, like he literally has the, the, the Cessna or whatever. Private jet. Wow. Up on the, up on, like the main screen. Wow. And he's talking about how, you know, the congregation needs this.

It's like God wants me to have this, right. Sorry. Well, because I can go around the world and spread the word faster with this little. I don't have to wait. I don't have to go through TSA. Yeah, exactly. You know, you wouldn't want such a man of God to be just filed by business class, would you? Yeah. And the urgency.

You know, you need to get that preacher to that location. So if there's a crisis, you know the first thing he needs to be there. Yeah. Or C or C++. Let's be fair or C. Oh, yes. Yes. Women can equally participate in for all y'all. They can. But you know, it tends to be this this kind of diabolical scheme tends to fall into the wheelhouse of men, but I don't.

Yeah, but we'll you go be fair. We'll say women can do somebody. I'm going to cite who's just as good at it is a man Kenneth Copeland's wife. Is she. Yes. What she do. So where you get on there? I'm sure he does similar. She preaches. She'll get on there. She'll. She does a lot of probate. So, while she's praying, you call in, oh, boy.

And you donate money. Your prayers will be answered as you get stuff when you donate. I see, I see, so you might get, you know, this class blessed by Kenneth Copeland? Yeah. You know, whenever there's, like, this suspension of disbelief thing, like to where when someone kind of commits to something, you know, we talked about this before where remember started about my friend that was like sending money to Palestine, Palestinian children and.

Yep, you know, you end up be the one that tells her, you know, it's it's a scam. And then like, emotionally, you're the bad guy or at least the bad taste in your mouth for you, you know, towards you, whereas you're doing nothing but really honestly trying to help. Right? So kind of no good deed goes unpunished type thing, right?

Right. Well, people do the same thing with these televangelists, with these, you know, prosperity gospel stuff. Right? I didn't say it. I was like 12 or 13. And I really believed in this guy, Robert Tilton. I was right there. Yeah. So. So, when you pay into it, you've now, like, you got skin in the game. Yeah. You're like emotionally invested in the in the truthfulness or the like.

The that, you know, you kind of said with your dollar that there's power in this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have it. There's sweat and tears have imputed. Yeah, yeah. With power. And so now your brain you know now of course falls into it even more like, you know, believes it even more. Right. Yeah. And then it's a, it's a feedback loop from there.

Yeah. And then like every time money comes your way you're going to be like, oh there it is. It's coming back to me here. It's like the person that tells the story about how much they won in Vegas. Yeah, well, like everybody that comes back from Vegas talks about their winnings. Yeah. You know, and and it's like even a percentage of that shit were true.

Vegas would be broke for like, you know, it'd been bankrupt years ago. Like, every one of those casinos be closing. You're right. If, you know, I had the payouts like people were claiming, right? It's like I won six grands. Yeah. Me, too. Me, I'm. Instead of the nice guy. And so then this guy. How the hell those casinos stay open?

Yeah, exactly. Because 99% of the people they come back were lying their ass up and lost their shirt. Yeah, they might have won the $500 at the blackjack table, but then they lost the 20 grand, right? Yeah.

I mean, all I've ever done and gambling is lose. I never won a substantial amount and so didn't scratch off tickets. So, like, I'll tell you the truth before, you know, I say some of this true, confession, like, we have confessions sessions here from times and there it is. Yeah. So here's my confession. Is that, like, I've hacked so many raffles, it's nothing funny.

Nice, dude. I've won way, way more than my percentage. I should of of raffles. That's awesome. By, like, bending my tickets, fucking around with them, like, right. Making it so when somebody drives your hand in there feels different. Right. And I'm like, all kinds of little things. I've done all these little tricks to try to, you know, make my ticket like, put mine in, two at a time, whether they're still, like, connected by a little bit.

Right. So then they're more likely to, like, come up with the edge. Okay. Like you said. So when their hand goes in. So I've done everything I could think of to like, manipulate the paper to make mine different and stand out. Right. That's so great. And then, you know, directly, directly games to like, one time I was reading off the numbers.

Off the tickets. Yeah, I, I just memorize one of my numbers, and just said, oh, the stick in a row, blah, blah, blah. And then I happened to have the matching. So you're like, oh, goodness. Yeah I won. Yeah, it was the Sony Walkman, man. Oh yeah. That's that was back in the day. Yeah dude. Yeah. So that was not cheap.

No one I had that thing forever too. It was like one of the sports ones that had the little rubber seal gasket on the side. You know, I'm going to put up with a bunch of stuff you could sweat into that everything. And it was like, you know, now that for a while I was like, popular thing to have was like that, you know, so that Sony Walkman that their little shitty earphones.

Yeah. The yellow and gray like yellow main body and then the like the slaps again on the side were great. My mom had one too. It was bright yellow, like eyeball searing yellow. Yeah, that was a shit, man. For the longest time. Yeah, she would wear running and everything else, you know. So someone that comes up with a pair of, like, you know, iPods, the AirPods.

Yeah. Right. And goes back in time to that shit. The first time the Sony be like, what is that? Right? And I'll admit, it looks kind of dumb. Like, I don't know why I can't get over it. Like these little sticks sticking out of people's ears all the time. I was little like, maybe. Right. And the thing is, I, I there's a, there's a huge garbage truck coming on the end here.

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