0:00 And for not having much food, says I'm really sad. You know that sick. If you open jokes from back in the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, what's the fastest land animal in Ethiopia? And chicken. Yeah. So terrible. Like like like that's our response to, you know, have it, I guess. I guess it makes sense. It's like the emotional response to, like, having to see all this commercials of, like, really people pinned stomachs.

0:30 Yeah. Flies. Like, they don't even fight the flies anymore. You know that thing? Yeah. Which I which I said something horrific when I was in the military. Yeah. Yeah, this is crazy, but, one of the, these. And gentlemen war story trigger alert. We're sorry. That's kind of funny. Say trigger alert. New York show war story. Her story about guns.

0:57 Trigger. Right after this trigger alert, I have another trigger. I might be a thing for today. Trigger alerts. So, there was this rotation that I was on for guard duty, and, part of this guard duty was like a weapon. It was a secured building, so it was like there was a weapons checking. So everyone that came to the building have to check in their weapons before they go inside.

1:20 And it's like a gun free. Zone. Yeah. And, and there was a reason for it. But that's beyond the story. Sure. So what do you do? Is you basically take the weapon, put it in this little tiny arms room, and, check people in, and then they come out and give their weapon back. It's all recorded on a log.

1:41 Makes sense. Yep. And so.

1:47 Anyway, there there are these, like, cases and cases and cases of soda, stacked up right near it. And one of the periphery duties of this guard duty was to, like, sell sodas just to soldiers. Yeah. No way. Yeah, yeah. Look, you gave us your weapon. You're captive. You got to be here. You want to?

2:08 Yeah. So. Right. So. So one of the officers had gotten Ahold of the contact that could bring in, like, canned sodas. Oh, like as a treat for the soldier type thing. Right. But that to sell them to you because we had nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there was still, like, money exchanged. Right. Well, there's a mortar attack and some gunfire and some shrapnel had hit these cases of soda, and some of them had like, you know, spewed their their contents all over the place, like so.

2:39 So how do you, how do you, like, clean a three dimensional, you know, like, stack of of soda, right. Like, think about it. How could you, like, easily and accurately clean all of the dripping of the sweet, sugary sweet sirup? All going to be easy. Tell me how. Right. So drips down, it gets on the soil. And so, of course, one by one we had to, like, move the cans from point A to point B and like try their best to clean, but they're still like going to be some sticky residue on everything.

3:08 Oh hell yeah. Every soda you sell, people's going to be sticky. Yeah. And we had an inventory. Like how many were destroyed and, you know, all the stupid shit. Wow. So anyway, this happened to attract a ton of flies. Well, yeah. And, you know, it sits, right? Some some, like, aren't like, things I don't even know, sir, what they were, but, you know, so we're selling these, like, sticks.

3:32 The things that like sugar. Exactly, exactly. Exactly. So we're selling these, like, sticky ass. Disgusting. Anyway. I'm like an anti bug type person. I cannot I cannot exist with a fly, like, landing on me. Like like I, I can't, I can't even hamlet. Right. We'd actually had to maneuver away just for security reasons, to see the periphery of a garbage dump over there.

3:55 Oh, fuck. And, I couldn't handle it, man. Like, it was like, what the fuck is going on now? Yeah, I was about to lose it. Like, you know, flies, like, on your asshole as you're shitting, you know, like, type thing, like. Yeah, like horrid, horrid, court like, nightmare scenario. Yeah. And, we got out there and I, I, I was, I was just out of mission to kill every fly and like, planet, you know, like, I wasn't going to tolerate it.

4:20 So anyway, created, like an electric slice of water out of your kit or something. Yeah. Yeah. So this one guy. He was a sergeant at the time. His last name was Johnson. So, like, you know, it's. I'm not specifically calling anybody out. There's probably a million. Sergeant Johnson's up, right? Right. So, he was an African-American fella, and, a bit of a dick.

4:39 Like, he just had a massive ego and kind of like a dick, but, he's he's a black dude, and he's sitting there, and he has this rotation for this guard duty, and he's got the fucking flies laying on his face. Oh, right. And he's not he's not like fighting them because there's just so many like he's just like, fuck it.

4:58 Yeah. So like I couldn't do that. Like I couldn't handle a fly, like constantly. I wouldn't be able to either. Those flies would know they're not landing on my face. Yeah. I would like literally if I had to, I would invent some something to kill them. Right. Yeah. If I had to. Like. But there's just no way I would tolerate.

5:15 I would just like they'd be standing there and fight the entire time I was on the duty. Yeah. That's. Damn. Literally. I'm not. I would never surrender. Surrender? Yeah. And so, like, he had them landed on his face and shit, and he, like, wasn't doing anything about it. And I made a joke to my friend John about the feed the Children.

5:31 Hello. She the children. And it was a fucking a horrible, horrible, horrible joke. Like. And the dude, the dude somehow overheard it. Oh, no fucking way. Yeah. Like the wind just happened to carry it just right. I don't know how he fucking hurt. He's got great fucking hearing somehow. But, I don't know why I'm saying fucking.

5:53 Look, you like, look at, like, reminiscing about Bill Terry. So. So, you know, I made this horrible, horrible joke that I'm still not proud of to this day, but it's fucking funny. Yeah. It was. And the reason it's funny is, all right to me. Satire, parody. They are hilarious. I mean, yeah, it's a way to get through a time, right?

6:21 It's a way to get through a time. But it's also it's it's been around for millennia. This is a form of humor where, you know, you've lampooned the situation. I mean, I've got two things to talk about that dovetail right into this. Oh, and then I have two things that dovetail those two things. We'll be here all day.

6:41 Oh.

6:43 So, the number one thing there are these guys. There's this comedy duo, the Good Liars, who were going to this Trump rally and they were getting X, Trump's our Trump supporters and other people to as a magnetite thing to buy let's buck Brandon shirts. What Brandon. Yeah they you know the phrase is let's go Brandon I think with that one they had managed to convince people by wearing these fake shirts they made and printing up even more in selling them that let's fuck Brandon was a now common phrase for two people.

7:24 What?

7:26 Almost like a as a prank? Yeah, as definitely as a prank. Just lampoon and make fun of these idiots. What the hell is this? Fuck! I'm throwing light onto it. Yeah, that's, like, funny, but also really weird. Well, like, how could you not get that right? Why would you? You know that and take that on. Right. And how how could you not see it?

7:53 Like, how could you not understand that that's not the right phrase, right. And that they're really making fun of you. But that's part of satire. That's part of, you know, like South Park puts that disclaimer in. But when you put the disclaimer in, when you when, when you go ahead and tell people up front that you're not drawing them in with just something that's almost real enough.

8:18 Yeah, yeah. Because that's it. Yeah. It's like this edge case. That's a that's a good place for humor, right? Well, it's you're drawing people in with something for for parody. It's like, got to be just close enough to real that it just might be right. Yeah, yeah. And then you draw them in, you draw them, draw them in, and then like the onion, you pivot right in the middle of the article and you make them face down their own goal ability.

8:44 You draw, you put a mirror on the subject and you make people think because you just make it ridiculous. You make it beyond the pale, right? Yes. It's like confining satire and misinformation to like, actually make people think about something. Yeah, yeah. And that's what they were doing. It's clever. Right? Right. Yeah. Dude. That's that's a yeah.

9:06 Yeah. I'm I'm I'm hearing you. That's a nice little space is like the onion or like the Enquirer. Almost like the Enquirer puts out a true story. Like the Enquirer puts out something that's like, really, really. Well, investigative journalism journalistically vetted, right? Yeah. Like, it's just like that boy goes to Mars. Yeah. It's like 100% true. Like, you know.

9:28 Yeah, it's a it's a height of investigative journalism. Yeah. And but it's a but it's a, it's an abstract kind of story. You know, some kind of weird twist in it, you know, something that you would just never believe. But it comes down to one of those reality is stranger than fiction, you know, type stories. That's it. And they run that in their in the Enquirer and it turns out to be true.

9:46 And then you have people like thinking, well, the Enquirer is actually like a source of, information that you wouldn't normally get. Right, right. Alternative in-depth understanding of like, like this weird quasi space of entertainment versus a who knows, you know, comedy and satire even built in almost like Fox News. You know, like I, I used to love reading it as a kid because my great grandmother, she was in the space where she believed everything in it.

10:19 I was in terms of plenty of people, people thinking, thinking that exact thing, like, you know, maybe they stretch stories, but there's a there's a fragment of truth behind it, you know? Well, she wasn't even there. She's absolutely going to put a totally and completely believe at all. Yeah, it's just wholesale acceptance. Wow. And that's interesting person. Yeah.

10:38 And so but you know, I was ten or 11 or 12 said there and I would just read it every week, but she would get it at I just loved it. I was like, man, this is a great space to play. And it's like, I'm not 100% sure if this is real or not, but most likely it's not.

10:57 It's beautiful. Yeah, totally. So that Enquirer phenomenon, right is is not it's just a it's just an extreme pull of the same of a of a, you know, like so it's obvious from for almost everybody. Yes, yes. And unless you're a, you know, 70 year old person from the backwoods of Kentucky who, you know, hasn't been much beyond her own farm.

11:22 Yeah. And and the Enquirer is like, still in every, you know, I'll of the supermarket or whatever it is. So someone's buying it, right. So they have to be. Yeah. And, you know, the Enquirer had a role in, trying to cover up, the what was that porn star that Stormy Daniels. Stormy Daniels had a role in that?

11:47 The guy who was, I think chief editor. He worked as a go between to try to get me to accept money. And she did it. How strange. Right, right. But it's such a fitting role. Right. And they have, like, a vault of information on people or supposedly or something, you know, and they might. Yeah, they they might, but they might not too.

12:12 Yeah. True. Because it's the Enquirer. You know, I thought about that as far as like remember, I think I might have mentioned to you before, like this idea that we don't actually have all those nukes, but we just have this straight up. It's our reputation that's bigger. Yeah. It's like we don't have whatever, 5000 plus nukes. We just have like maybe 20 and we have the infrastructure to support the 5000 nukes, right?

12:36 It looks like we have it. Right? Right. But, you know, you get to a point, like if you have the whole world believe that you have the 5000 nukes or how many thousands of newts. Right, right. And you have enough to to wipe out all the major cities of your adversaries anyway, right? The top you take out the top five cities in America, let's say.

12:58 I mean, yeah, you've just you've done it, you know. Yeah. You're finished. Economically. They're done. I don't even know what would that be like. Obviously New York, you know, prop Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah. The couple others. Yeah. He definitely, like you said, somewhere in California, like LA, Chicago. New York, I mean, yeah, you choked cities out and that's massive.

13:22 Like the New York, Boston, LA. Like you poke the eye of the Cyclops. Yeah. Really? Really. I mean, you've mostly blinded that motherfucker with a hot ass dick who is doing this to, you know, man. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it's just that point of being like, you know, this, this, this comment, this, this, like, whatever, like 99% of the world's population believe something.

13:49 Then in a way, it's kind of is true. Right, right. And and that's the facts of the space that the Enquirer plays in the very space that Trump brand is to dominate. Yeah. Convincing people of truth where there is no bedrock to build it upon. Right. So I want to explore this idea of this, like this, this weird space between, you know, comedy and comedy and reality and also like, truth and lies and reality for like, so you have I have one more thing to mention.

14:23 Yeah. Do it, do it, do it. So there's a gentleman who's getting in trouble for, satire because he's from Ohio. He made a I think I heard about this. Right. Made a Facebook page. Mocking. Mocking. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And he got sent to jail. I believe, and now the cases in courts and, the onion created a anarchist brief.

14:52 A friend of the court, brief to the Supreme Court said, take up this case, and it's like a 24 page, just awesome work. Well, there is satire in the abacus brief, but it also really outlines the power and essential just need for satire to be able to lampoon, to be able to have that way of letting people step back and be objective for such a hot button issue, for sure.

15:26 And, it was so funny. The the comedy sheds a new light on the on the reality. Right. It does, it does. And that's why I said never too soon. Because you need that perspective that come to give you, you need to be able to step back a few steps and say, well, hell, you know, yeah, we're white, hot, mad, but what's the other way?

15:46 We need to look at this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, totally. And so, it was so funny. The guy who wrote it, he. His dad is a workman's comp lawyer. Yeah. Said this is the only time my dad has ever praised my writing was exclamation mark.

16:07 Awesome. And he was just talking about. He's been at The onion for ten years, and how really, he feels like it's essential that, sure, it's an essential part of our First Amendment right to be able to do this for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since when have Americans been sent to jail for making fun of their government? Come on.

16:28 Yeah. And and, that that, really interesting angle of comedy, too. Like, you have some people who get destroyed from the ridicule aspect and like, they're so thin skinned they can't handle it. And that's the way this police department was. Yeah. And then you have the other people who, kind of can tip their hat to the cleverness of the comedy and in some cases, even embrace it.

16:52 Right. Right. You got like, I think I mentioned it actually on the podcast before. How upset? Julio was for the parody of Paradise. Heard out. He was just absolutely white, hot, angry. But, you know, other people were like, it's an honor. I've been parody by Weird Al. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, really interesting. Like how some people have taken some forms of ridicule and, and, kind of rib jabbing and actually adopted the, the moniker.

17:27 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like taking it on as a way to, like, boost their own popularity. I mean, why not? Why not? Like, maybe it's. Or spin it or spin it in some way. Right. Like you mentioned the photo by what's called branding. You know what's branding? T shirts. Yeah. Right. So, like, there's just thing I saw too, like dark branding.

17:49 I think it's called. Oh, shit. Have you heard of that? No. What's that? Dark branding is like these memes of Joe Biden. Like, with, like, demon eyes and, you know, like a Terminator, you know, kind of robot. I was like, okay, like, like fucking with the Republicans, you know, like this dark branding like this. Brilliant, shadowy, evil figure behind the scenes.

18:10 Sure. It's screwing everybody up. Okay. Yeah, but but it's a way that the pundits have spun the. Let's go. Brandon. Thank you. Got it, got it. He deserves our ridicule. He is, at the root evil. He is. He 1000 in the flesh.

18:27 You know, and and, I think there's been some references to where Joe Biden himself has referenced it, so. Really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Which is, you know, hey, I mean, I, I think he should. Absolutely. And the thing is, all right, before George Lucas sold Star Wars to Disney, right? Yeah. They were he was perfectly okay with satire with with people reusing it with people bring it in into shows.

18:54 Because one of the things it does when you own the property like that is keeps it cultural. You love it. Absolutely. It keeps it keeps going to hurt his merchandizing. Money coming in. Right? It's anything that's going to increase it and then allow him to sell his life's work for $4 billion to Disney. Right, right. But now Disney's like, well, you guys can't do that anymore because they're butthurt.

19:21 Well. Excuse me. Yeah, yeah. So, that that that that edge case of where you have, like, the absurd, you know, not possibly to be true in satire and comedy rolled up into something serious, a good example that's like Fox News, right? So, so from my understanding, there's a court case where, you know, I guess Dominion, the, the voting people or.

19:46 Yeah, the voting system, the parent entertainment company, Fox Entertainment or whatever it is, it makes sense for billions and billions and billions of defamation and damage from where stand. Yeah. Okay. And, like, apparently the suit has teeth. Oh, good. And so from what I understand, the preliminary defense is nobody that's reasonably minded would take the programing seriously.

20:09 Suffix history. They just get their own programing and say, you know, the millions of ratings that we have, the, cult following we've established, these are unreasonable things to have happened. Yeah. So like, exactly. If I'm in, can't blame them. And you have obtain billions on the line. Right. So like, if, you know, old Sergeant Johnson was suing me for being racist on, on a, on a podcast.

20:39 What, was there any fallout from that joke? Oh, just just, no, actually, inevitably, that's a that's a great question. Actually, I want to follow that up, but I want to finish this idea behind Fox News is that if all is being whatever, what is a civilly sued for say, you know, even like ten grand, right. Yeah. I would renounce my podcast as well.

21:04 I'd feel like everyone in the right mind would know that this is all just made up. We're in a studio. Yeah, we're definitely not walking or in the dark through a darkened, graffiti covered tunnel. And we're certainly not serious. We did really point out the fact that there was a condom on the path that had no, no business of a condom being on the path at that.

21:28 Like what the like or or an errant motorcycle helmet trash upon the pass? Not at all. We definitely didn't talk about this thing. And you can't just, like, make that up. It's like, you know how you did. You can't you can't make it up because it's like no one would believe in their right mind would believe that those things really exist.

21:50 Because reality is definitely stranger than anything someone will pull out of their ass. Yeah, it's so funny like that that the, the misplaced object, you know, is like is a huge funding is like a naturally built in comedy. So like, yeah, like you're like in the middle of a, of a prick or bush because you went off the path.

22:10 Yeah, yeah. Like what else. The past taking you or taking a shortcut on like on a hiking trail. And you're in this, like, thicket of briers, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like where nobody belongs. And you're committed at this point. You're like, so you're going to get to the patch, you know, you're going to get scratched up, like in the middle of the patch, you see, like a condom on the ground.

22:30 Yeah, yeah. This happened. Somebody was in the middle of it, the middle of this woods off the beaten track. And they filled that up. I'm saying like, it's not just like it fell out of someone's pocket. This thing is bulging with. No, you know, nice and like, you know, these weird organisms you've never seen before. Guy managed to find it.

22:58 You find those same. It's the same kind of ant like thing to crawling all over this thing. Yeah. They only like two things in this world. The shrapnel induced soda drippings and human extra human, you know? Yeah. Pleasure juice. Pleasure juice. Whatever. Whatever. Yeah, yeah. Do you come up with a million different names? Oh, there's a something funny, too.

23:24 Is like the, all the names over, over the course of time that people have come up with for, Trump. You know, Trump is like, the just his go to is like schoolyard middle school, high school bully in the playground. Oh, yeah. Like giving terrible names. He's absolutely that guy like horrific racist or whatever names to people, right?

23:45 I think he just did it to Mitch McConnell in the news, like, oh, did that just called the wife like Coco China or something. That's beautiful. Something horrible. I love the fact that he's attacking his own people, pal. You fan. Oh, if if all these indictments come down, my God, the the, the the you're just going to just see nothing but daggers in each other's backs.

24:04 Yeah, because they're all complicit. They're all fucked. They all helped create this in a it's so shortsighted. It's so they I just don't see where they thought the end game was and how they thought they were going to pull it off. I think like like certain certain diseases I think like gonorrhea tracks has higher approval rating than Congress or something.

24:27 I think certain diseases track higher than, than they do. The the country wide spike in syphilis like it's something like 9%, probably higher than 9% of people for some who knows what reason approve of it. You know, like, yeah, that'll stop those fornicators. You know, like, I like that. We need more of it. Morgan Arena. Yeah. We should spread gonorrhea and syphilis everywhere.

24:51 We should put it on every 12. That's eat. That'll slow down those fornicators. Maybe Vermont Supreme could use that as this platform to get in. Like I will stop the floor to gets it the name right. I feel like what he did was he was watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He saw Rat King and was like, oh, that's just copyrighted.

25:12 I can't do that. Farm is a pretty nice nice. So all these like, ideas like, come, you know, another really good thing about comedy, I don't know if you have this experience, but like, when you really get a good laugh, right? Or you're with a group of friends and you've just been cutting up at a party or whatever for hours, you know, there's just like this drug induced feeling that kind of comes over your body.

25:34 It's like this wonderful endorphin style. Yeah. It's euphoria. Yeah, like version of euphoria. And I was thinking like, maybe, you know, really sophisticated, like a million times I've talked about, like what? Really hyper intelligence, like, AI could possibly come up with. And you've seen some of the artwork that's come out. Oh, yeah. Like recently. Oh my God.

25:53 Like, yeah. Like I was edible. Any of that on my wall. You know, it's like beautiful, incredible hail in the high res prints of that. Or at least get the, you know, get the SVG of it and print it out on one of those massive, you know, inkjet plotters type things. Dude. Yes. And I'd love to be like the, I would love to be the go to company that makes these really awesome printouts of AI, right?

26:21 Yeah. There. And like, you start to have, like, do a series one based on, like, the data from the Mars Rover one or this or that, you know. Oh, I, I just love the idea of those, like, you throw a series of keywords at it, you know, like, yeah. You know, like, like like a woman dreaming of, you know, time, you know, and it comes up with this like crazy.

26:46 You said time I was going to go with rice pudding.

26:51 Your AI produce art would probably be more interesting than mine. But here we have this, like, beautiful, like, feminist figure. Right? Then it's like this, like, dream mindscape type thing. It's looking through like an almost like a keyhole of reality, you know? Yeah. And it's just window upon the flow of time. Yeah. And there's like, there's some kind of, like, really cool relativity kind of universal, you know, outer space, trying to look at it.

27:14 And you're like, that is the embodiment of, you know, general relativity. That is the. Yeah. You know, and it just looks fucking awesome. And it's like for anybody looking at it and say, oh my God, that's so creative, you know, highly creative. And so the idea that like AI is producing that. So imagine like AI keeping every person in this like, headspace, like mixing comedy and entertainment perpetually, right?

27:40 Because, you know, once it gets to a certain point, the productiveness of this would, would produce endless consumption. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's I think that's the formula for last week tonight. Yeah. And so, so oh is it like producing endless consumption. No. I'm saying like mixing comedy and entertainment in a perpetual sort of way. Yeah yeah, yeah.

28:03 That's what they're doing. Gotcha, gotcha. Oh, yeah. John Oliver. Yeah yeah yeah yeah I, I, I get a little bit like, I get burned out on his stuff, I do too. I watch it in spurts, like, I'll, I'll catch you up on the main ones every few weeks. Yeah, but I would, I would like to sit down and just cut up in that kind of fashion.

28:23 Oh, yeah. With someone smart like him, he's obviously William Jude. He's incredibly intelligent and that's obvious. That's, you know, and so on. You know, you can imagine, though, like this incredibly, endlessly productive, AI tailored specifically to your likes and interests, your comedy, your version of comedy, your, your, your version of intellectual intrigue. So it's it's my personal filter bubble for intellectual intrigue, comedy, screwed up stuff.

28:51 We're just we're we're we're going down that rabbit hole with me every day. Yeah. And it is producing an endless number of memes or whatever else kind of entertainment they're personalized for you 100%. Right. And it's producing an entertainment bubble that is not only specifically tailored to you, but it's educating you at the same time. Oh, I didn't think of that at first, but yes.

29:14 No. Like, I'm thinking I'm more nefarious kind of purpose. Like it's keeping you completely enthralled with mindlessness. Oh, damn. All right. I was thinking you wouldn't give it up for the world. Like if I was thinking what you were trying to say was that just. We were talking about that heady mix of education, information and comedy. We were going to do the same thing for the AI.

29:34 It was going to give you that mix. There's enough education in there to make it valuable to you, and it's hilarious enough to make it valuable to you. So like, like a white hat version of this possibly clandestine thing where it's actually, like, slipping in, informative information. Yes. All mixed in this head, hedging me of, yes ridiculousness.

29:59 Yes. Every minute of ridiculousness. There we go. So I was talking to you about submitting for America's Got Talent. An actual, like, skit, you know? And what I was going to do was, you know, like, for years and years and years to talking about what all this, like, really serious, you know, AI and, like, possible consequences for the world and yeah, you know, big, big, big human issues like climate change and you know, oh my gosh, on and on and on.

30:26 Right. Like we talk about like what what fusion power might mean for the world. And you know, we talk about big, big OUDR as $50 million up for design of a fusion power plant. Whoa. Nice. 50 million. Yeah, yeah, it's not much, but, you know, it's a pretty good price. So, like, go online and hack the plans for the I, project and put this up.

30:56 Right, right, right. Here's my idea. Think it'll work?

31:04 It's only $150 billion. It's more than Twitter. The price of Twitter. God, man. That's nuts. So, anyway, this this this kind of, like, really strange head space that, like, some kind of AI could keep you into this vacuum and so. Right. And keep pushing the envelope. Yeah. To where your dopamine and your endorphins and your, you know, your your body chemistry is just perpetually spiked by this thing.

31:31 Oh, you'd never give it up. It'd be your biggest addiction. Yeah. Like like, I would have to say what 50% of our population is addicted to always on internet slash saying endless. Yeah, endless feed slash entertainment from this. I know the jungle feed, from news feed from my phone. I, I realized last night I scrolled through it mindlessly four times and I'm like, this shit's not going to change.

32:04 What are you doing, Sean? Saint newspaper. Yeah, yeah. Well, well, there's something there's something happening there, right? Like you. Like you. You have enough meta awareness to, like, realize you're doing it. Well, I didn't realize it until I've done it four times. Yeah, but for many people, that's like perpetual and and and, autonomic. Yeah. That's true.

32:25 Autonomic is a great word. Just zombie like doing it. It taps into that almost lizard brain. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And that's what I'm talking about. Like, you can imagine the, the peak of this being this, like, production mill, custom tailored specifically for your entertainment purposes. Right. Spiking your, your, your brain chemistry perpetually. So we sit here and talk about we're not able to come up with criminal things.

32:51 This is definitely criminal. Well, and it might be just the natural conclusion of a for profit model of these type of technologies. Right. How do you how do you how do you create a distributive version of the matrix where you're captivate people, captivating people and controlling them and in essence, using them as the batteries, the or the engine to keep going?

33:16 Yeah. And so the once, once sufficiently seated, with all of human knowledge, you know, basically every right now the content generation online, from what I understand, is still mostly human. Right, right. But that's the tides are shifting. Yeah. There there are definitely AI created articles. There are definitely procedurally generated articles from formula. No. Yeah. And so in just, you know, associative, collections of already existing information.

33:49 So. Right, so like the potentiality of what I'm talking about has already been seated. Yeah. And now throw an additional seed information of personal interactive information. Right. Like for example, looking at the camera and seeing how captivated somebody is, how how intent they're looking at something, right? Even how furtively they might be scrolling or tapping. There you go.

34:08 And start putting that feedback biofeedback even into the loop. Yeah. And now you have, my God, the potential for creating a monster. Yeah. And to some extent, the genie might already be out of the bottle. Right. So perhaps what humanity is kind of facing is this just future perpetual bubble of, entertainment consumption. At least that's what the data suggests.

34:31 We're going anyway. But, hey, why don't we, maliciously comply here and try to create a stream that does educate, just as not saying this is the best example, but just as last Week Tonight tries to do. Yeah. Does the stream of throwing in the education like perform better overall? In people's consumptive appetite? Well I think or does just the pure entertainment win that battle.

35:00 Well.

35:03 Probably pure and came probably about maybe. But with the education stuff you have the same mimetic formulas you create like perhaps and maybe you can sell it if it has the educational component. Maybe that's a marketing angle. It is, it is. People are in it is. But it's also it's also to say, you know, education is just a placeholder for whatever information you're conveying.

35:32 Sure. In these bite sized little things, right, right. Whatever worldview you're perpetuating, whatever, I guess, narrative you've created, that's just a placeholder for it. Education is just saying we're trying to expand and firm up this person's knowledge of the context of which they live. There you go. I like it. So this skit I was thinking about putting in putting in for America's Got Talent, right?

36:04 Is I'm sitting there talking about, maybe just a really nice, you know, really like, professionals. I possibly can look and, I got makeup on for the first time, even, like, so, you know, I look as good as I could possibly look. And I practice, like, the perfect delivery of the perfect speech. Yeah, and I could be standing or sitting at a desk.

36:26 Something that's like, looks really important. And Navy is like a news background type news kind of setting. Okay. And I'm sitting there delivering.

36:38 Spot on, word chosen, perfect speech about something fucking major that humanity is facing. And I'm doing sound like the most dead serious possible manner, right? Like, I mean, like, as dead serious as you could be. Yeah. And as articulate as could possibly be. And is professional. It might not even be me delivering. Right. Like, if you just be the idea here.

37:02 Well, because I don't know if I would be the best suited for that. Right. But anyway, I'm talking like just knocking it out of the park. Dead serious. Everybody needs this information. Right, right, right. And every word is chosen, and it's just going on. Spot on. Yeah. And the background is really rapidly playing clips of people getting hit in the nuts and cats knocking down and, like, just the the most universally hilarious memes.

37:29 Yes, yes, that everyone is like caught between this. Like almost like those, those those theater masks of the one that's smiling and the one that's, that's that's crying, right? You know, it's like you're hearing this information and you're like, oh my God, it's so, so terrifying. Like, you know, you're you're fully describing full nuclear holocaust or something. Yeah.

37:49 And then then simultaneously you're going down this like you're showing this backdrop of absurdity. And the backdrop of absurdity is the format that everybody is comfortable with and familiar with. Right. But then the information you're almost modulating this comfortability with this serious information, you're almost piggybacking on the signal. Yes, that's exactly what my idea is for this. And it's like, it's done.

38:18 It's done in a way that's like when you watch it, you're just like, oh, shit. Like, wow. Like you're wowed by it because it's just demonstrating how there's so many vital things to our, our whole entire global civilization. Yeah, that are critically important and matter. Right. But what has most people's attention is this just mindlessness. This. And it might be the frisbee, this cat knocking thing off the table.

38:45 This. Right. And the reason why people might be in an endless loop of consuming this can, can entertainment. Consumptive model. Perpetual entertainment consumption model is because the gravity of the reality. Right? Right. It pushes them to seek succor, to seek a safe intellectual harbor. Yeah. Like this mindless thing is, is a safe space to some extent. And, you know, it's it's a warning.

39:14 The end of the day sometimes need to turn trigger warning. He turned my brain off. And I do retreat to those things for a little bit, you know? Yeah. So so at the end of the day, you have this wind of addictiveness with perhaps also a medicinal or therapeutic, necessary response to the gravity and reality of modern hyper hyper technology society.

39:40 Yeah. Hypersexuality, hyperstimulation, hyperstimulation. You know, we are often required to have a heightened intellectual and heightened emotional response for several hours a day.

39:54 So then you mix in, you start, you start blending these concepts. We just talked about it together. And next thing you know you have this like mesh reality, augmented reality for people that could just be a 100% track, 100% track because it's waging you. It's drugging you because because, you know, you got to you got to put that in the mix too.

40:16 You got to put in, you know, AI doctor. Right? That's working in concert with your your recommended 30 minutes of means a day to wind down or it's just it's it's yeah. That like funny but true. That's a, that's a that's a tool for the overall Kim thing with the goal function of like producing a chemical, evidence of happiness in this individual.

40:44 Well, yeah. I mean, it's not a real happiness, a chemical, but but the, it's it's generally possible the right mix of means would, what's the, the meditation state? The alpha state? Yeah. The alpha waves. It could create a situation where you are more inclined to have that to relax to, you know. Right. And then the part of the goal function then of this is to not necessarily slip in the education, but to slip into marketing and then slip in the, the reinforcement of the consumption consumptive model.

41:17 And, and here this into this potion. Education is just, you know, the branding of information from our perspective what we can we consider education. There's probably a case that can be made for that. Yeah. So, you know, your employer might ask for, you know, in our kind of a t world, right? Our employers are asking for our, our focused consciousness and our focus intellect.

41:43 Yes. They're paying for a certain amount of that per day. Right, right. And then also on top of that, they're paying for the acquisition of the creative output of that, that that comes from that exercise. Right, right. Well, that's because there's still utility in what we do in society. Right. But when, you know, hyper intelligent brain is doing that on an end level, way higher than any human could ever do, and deprecate that particular job function as is doing for everything, you know.

42:09 Yeah. Then the, the, the, the only then kind of utility that is left and I thought about that so much like what is the utility you can see like in the writings and stuff, I've talked so many times about what's the utility of mankind once x, y, Z is displaced, right, right. It's like your end game utility becomes your dollar.

42:31 Transactional value as a biological unit that needs perpetual inputs, right? So, like, each person needs food, each person needs. But how much are they bringing to the economy so as to pay this back? This cost of them existed. The only thing that you can do is almost like think, start to think in humanity. Human terms is once there's this AI takeover of full, full AI takeover of all labor.

42:58 Right. Which you have then is just this, almost like a kind of model. So you're saying, like, you know, humans are owed, their creative output and their intellectual output is what you enable this to happen? We should have already started this when globalization began to take hold. And a lot of traditional jobs and traditional markets were displaced because, you know it, they should have been paying to lose those jobs.

43:29 Yes, yes, you're you're totally spot on. I think our thinking is totally wind up here. And so like if you take the collective output of if there's a way to track it accurately and you generationally can follow the wealth that was created, like through slavery and other forms of induced forced labor. Right. And you're able to to pull that forward to that.

43:49 It's dollar value in the modern time. It's obviously, you know, a foundation of the economy. Yeah. Right. And so if you were able to allocate reparations for that drilling of that, wealth and productivity and all that stuff, right. If you were to be able to pay that forward, it would be a massive debt owed to the ancestors of those people.

44:09 They're probably wipe out the party. Yeah. Yeah. So if you look at that too, like what we're look at the same model for what all of us are doing seeding. I see what I'm saying with that, because what we're doing is we're creating not only the, the not only producing it, manifesting it into reality by building it with our bare hands, our engineering it into reality.

44:32 Right. But we're providing all the seed information. But let's be clear here. This is not a direct line. This is not this is not everything we do as is definitely funneling into this. It's all slowly getting organized and collected and slowly trickled dripping into AI right now. Right, right now what I'm talking about how this progressing into the future.

44:53 Yeah, right. And so when you take it to it's like kind of degree where you're going to see them to is like, an empirical. You can say, okay, true humanity brought this in existence. True. The, the intellect and creativity of, of mankind has produced the seed information to manifest and even make this possible. Right. But then what it produces in a day, what it produces in an hour now is dwarfs the entire like the story of all of human effort, like we've talked about.

45:23 I think we need to build into this AI that we make great pets. Yes, yes. And we have to add value somehow. Yeah. Right. And so like, a pet adds value. Yeah. But for humans, it's an emotional connection with another living creature. So we have to embed emotionality in connection into this AI. Yeah. The human needs to take care of something.

45:51 Yeah. Creates the existence of pets. Yes. Right. Well, it's a it's an inner play. The pets provide us with things. We provide them with things. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. But so. So the pet though has to our nature has an intrinsic value. Yes. And so how to read the or appeal to our better nature or. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And so how does humanity for how how does each individual, prep themselves, how to selectively breed ourselves to appeal to your DNA?

46:22 I make that happen.

46:26 You match your you match. Selective breeding for bizarre offspring can be great AI pet. Yeah, yeah. That's a premise for like a dating app.

46:37 And I mean, hey, Chinese people spent a thousand years breeding, betas, fighting fish, right? Yeah. I mean, we can spend a thousand years so trivially breeding intellectuals to be good pets for AI. I love it like. But that that I have it's moment to. Because the technology to, like, fully encode a full DNA sequence of any organism that you could ever imagine is on the horizon.

47:02 So, like, we don't even have utility in our DNA. Yeah, right. When the technology is there to like basically a machine could, could output any conceivable sequence of genes, right, right. And, and produce that in this idea. Right. All artificially. I mean, right now we just have very ham fisted things like Crispr that use, you know, crude genetic markers, crude, enzymes to cut out pieces.

47:30 We can put them in plasmids. We can now, but but, but it's insanely grew, right? Right, right. But that's now. Yeah. You know, and then clearly what's going to be capable sometime in the distant future is, is like full edit capabilities of a genome. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, okay, there's a guy who managed because of the technology we have right now to sequence the Neanderthal genome.

47:55 That's crazy. He got the DNA from 40,000 year old bones, and he won the Nobel Prize because he fucking should have, right? It's crazy. I mean, think of all the crap he put together to figure that out. And he had to remove from bacteria. He had to remove contamination from labs, you know, everything. Everything. And then and then on top of that, the things that were invented, the processes that he came up with that are now documented, add to the toolset.

48:26 And that's why we have this like near exponential explosion of technology. And that's why I say near beyond exponential. That's why we have to keep everything as open as possible. And research from the government needs to be open. Research from private industry, if possible, needs to be open. We don't need to privatize if we want to accelerate this.

48:45 That's a that's a that's a great topic for tomorrow. See we're good.