0:01 I wonder if.

0:09 Maybe, maybe when you provide commentary. Is there you. Oh, yes.

0:17 So we're not showing the video. So you assume provide commentary. Yeah, we're providing commentary. Let's start off with.

0:30 In the name of diversity. You know like look, look how look how diverse we are. We're celebrating our differences around the world. It's a nice parody showcasing. Yeah, ridiculousness of some of the diversity. It's it's taking it to the extreme and it's, it's I it theater of the absurd. Right. Yep.

0:54 So our topic today. Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, okay. Our topic today is.

1:02 Linguistic relativity or linguistic linguistic determinism put forth by Saphir and Worf. There are lots of other hypotheses that fall under this same, idea. It kind of was really popular.

1:24 Around the 20s to to pretty much now. But it's strong forms of this hypothesis don't really exist now as far as being proven. Really the idea is our language is the principal, thing that shapes what we can think and why we even think it. It's pretty strong. Yeah. And, that's the strong form of the hypothesis.

1:57 The weak form is. Hey, it's an element woven along with the the strands of culture. And, really human thought. So what I think I think in terms of language, like, I, I have that, like, inner voice, if you want to call it that in my head. Right. Like when I, when I think of things, I use language.

2:22 Yeah you do, but it doesn't necessarily.

2:28 Like.

2:31 Language helps us group and categorize, right. Well, I mean, I don't think how else would you explain to me what happened to you at a certain time, you know. Right. Who, when, where, why and how? But in England, in English, we focused more on time. Sure. Then say other languages might. Sure. Like Hopi and even languages like Turkish.

2:56 Focus on where the information came from. Okay. And, Yeah. Makes sense. So that's another way of grouping. Categorizing the information. Spanish.

3:11 Groups, people in the social right categories. And you have to be formal or less formal, like you stand for formal. Two for informal. I mean, when I hear German, you know, I know a few German words, but I don't really know German. Yeah, right. But when I hear German, I mean, I can see two world wars. I mean, I can definitely hear two World wars there, right?

3:35 But, you know. Oh, look at the butterfly. The Germans like me not to put the fly. That's just middling. You know, it's like, Holy shit. What the fuck? You know what? What I do, what I do. You know. And he was just saying, look, that's not a butterfly. It's this. It's not called the butterfly. It's called a sniffling.

3:50 Like where that fucking word come from? Damn. It's like. Sounds like iron butterfly. It does. It does. And that that that tonality in the in the the the, you know, the nature of the, you know, like the. Right. So it's like, by default sounds, sounds militaristic. Yeah. You know, it's like, I love you, but it sounds like.

4:09 Yeah, I'm gonna rip your head off. And so that's what this is talking about, that at least on the face of it, I mean, the language would give us bias toward a way of thinking and acting. Yeah, I can see it. I mean, and French sounds like two surrenders, I mean, for sure. Right.

4:32 French sounds like I want to. Sounds like a little baby love stroke. Cuddle. Yeah. Bring you in. You know. Sure. Like someone speaking French just sounds like smooth and natural. And it sounds like a lover rather than a fighter. Right. Yeah. There you go. Exactly. That's exactly what I'm saying. And so maybe there's, like, there is a spirit, if you will, to the language that then, you know, in it infiltrates the entire imagination.

4:55 Yeah. That infuse or informs everything you do. And that's entirely possible. But back when anthropology was at least in the US, divided into a four categories that included linguistics. No, there was, there it was, it was considered a branch of anthropology. So that's where really that theory grew out of because we had related the two and some say conflated them.

5:31 Yeah, I see I see the and yeah. But in Europe they didn't have that problem. Linguistics was firmly its own thing. So and in every word right. Like so some words between languages don't have proper translations. Right. So they're like correct. A word has a certain tone of a melody and an actual like emotional feeling. Right. And and that's how I remember words.

5:57 I remember words from an emotional feeling. That's how I remember definitions. Sure. So I think like the I think like the, the weak aspect of this is so like I said, when I think, I think in terms of words like, right, you know, but when I, when I dream, building and building blocks these concepts that are represented by words.

6:14 Yeah, exactly. But when I dream or imagine a dream in in in visuals. Right. Visuals. Feelings. Yeah. And so those are to my mind like stronger. So you know body language is part of language right. So. Right. Right. You seen this guy. And body language is definitely cultural for sure. Yeah. And it's like trying to transcend the transcendent amongst even the animal kingdom.

6:41 You seen this guy that, like, goes out and hugs tigers and shit, like, no, some dude on the internet that like, you know, I don't know, he's like the cat whisper. He goes out and he's like a big cats. Yeah. You know, freaking lions. No shit. And he goes out into the field and whistles for them and shit, and they come up and hug him, and he lays down with them and rubs them, and that's crazy as hell.

7:02 It's like he just has this. This? Yeah, he has this. A, way of understanding the the beast. Yeah. And they understand him. There's no threat. There's just pure. You know, I'm so happy to see you type thing. Wow. Yeah. So washed over the internet for a while. This guy, he probably got eaten, I don't know. And,

7:23 Well, at least he had a good time before he got eaten. But the way he positions his body, the way his facial expressions are, the way he. It's just it builds this connection with the cat. Right, exactly. And, Yeah, that's exactly right. And so that, like, completely transcends language. Right. That's, that's. But it's also interspecies. Like a dog, you can go by a dog and, you know, obviously without even saying a word, the way you posture yourself to the dog, if you posture yourself in a dominant posture.

7:50 Yeah. The dog is like almost never going to attack you. Right. But if you posture yourself in like this, like I'm scared of this dog the dog's going to be, oh, you're scared of me, Right. And even the most mild of dogs gets ramped up by that. We'll take that opportunity. It takes the cue, you know, the the, the physical and the the body language.

8:08 It's cute. And there's a certain there's a certain degree of we have to look at players we're talking about here. Like, I mean, undeniably, there's a primal reaction to body language or action, which is supplemental to language. There you go. And so that cue that you're that you're kind of putting out in conjunction with the language. Right. The language itself has based on what we're talking about today.

8:31 You know, I think the language itself has its own built in kind of like signals or cues. Right, right. And and those cues and signals shape the culture that surrounds the language. But the culture that surrounds the language gives feedback into the into the language. Like, yeah. Our our modern dictionaries have started to finally acknowledge that. And they add words of the year.

8:54 Yeah, yeah. So, so just and of course, over time, you know, you give it long enough to the future. We wouldn't recognize the future language. No. Because of the word use. I mean, like, we can even just go back and say how many problems did all of us have reading old English back. Back in high school? Oh, yeah.

9:09 You read some of the earlier, earlier Bible translations and you're like, yeah, or even hell, the first novel by Geoffrey Chaucer, The Canterbury Tales. Jesus. Some people could not even read that at all. And we would spend hours on it. Yeah. When I read it, it was like, you got to get used to the language. Then the words start to become familiar through the context.

9:29 Right. Right. Yeah. It's context clues. A lot of the spelling was different, but it was more phonetic. Yeah. And you know it. To me, it was somewhat easier to read once you got into the cadence of it. Yeah. Yeah. It was more straightforward. And that's interesting too. Is that that even in the, the, the derivative of the language that we speak.

9:49 Right. Like the variance of the language that we speak. I mean, you could go so far as to say that's a true dialect. Yeah. Compared to us. Yeah. And the dialect or even like a regional dialect would then carry some of its own emotional tones. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, from coming, you know, being in different states and having been in the South so long, there's definitely a regional to some of the things we say for sure.

10:11 For sure. Yeah. That's true. So the question really then why is is like we established that there has to be some it just seems natural and seems to be a causal link. But how strong is it? Correct. That's what I was just going to say. Exactly. Like how deep is that link actually run? And, you know, then I also started to think when, when when you through that topic out, I started to think about something I thought of before about language.

10:36 Is that every single word, every word, right, is not only, you know, a distinct word, obviously, but with its own meaning. And it has a lot of words, have synonyms and all that. But every word is tied to your full experimental history with that word, right? And that's right. Not only an individual level, but a cultural level, especially if we bring the idea, which has been spotlight lately, of influencers, because we do have you have people that create a safer language through their popularization of it, like Shakespeare, I mean, Shakespeare, when it comes to the King James Bible, I believe, had a lot of input into the Gospels, and a lot of words introduced

11:26 by Shakespeare really transformed the language. And because of the popularity of the Bible, we're just forced into the collective lexicon almost overnight. Right. And bringing with it there, you know, there tones and there's kind of meaning bringing their new meaning, their nuance meaning into, into the vocabulary. That's it. And, you know, now it happens at a much faster pace due to the how, I guess, quickly, those little bits of culture, those memes are communicated.

12:02 Sure. So like, imagine a kid grows up and and the parent, always used a certain word, right? Like, for example, one of my childhood friends, his his father would always say, this one word. Apparently. Apparently. Oh, no. No. I'm sorry. Evidently, evidently. Oh, okay. Yeah. The kid would be interacting. My friend would be interacting with his dad, and his dad would always say, evidently.

12:26 Right. And to this day, when I hear that word, I think of that man. Yeah, it brings that spirit of his personality. Yeah. Into that random conversation with someone that's not even associated with that at all. Right. So so we have our own individual experiences with words and language that then shape our reaction to it based on the word use that someone else had.

12:48 Oh, yeah. And to them they're just using words that are just, you know, in their vocabulary normal for them, you know, that feel appropriate and have the right fit. The fit right. Yeah. But the but the the person that hears it, they can have a completely different, you know, exposure and experience to that work. And that word have its own shape and meaning.

13:06 Right. Yeah. Yeah. And before we get too far. Let's let's acknowledge something really interesting is that the dictionary words are nothing but a circular reference. So if you look up any words in the dictionary, it's defined by other words. Right. Right. Which then I'll have can go down to. We do get down to primitives beyond that. There are pieces of words are called morphemes.

13:31 Right. Right, right. And then, there are, there's also a, I believe, a word for pieces of like, definition or concept. Yeah. So if you had them working, you'd basically look, look in all the words that contain that. Right. So. Right. Right. We're looking at roots. We're looking at just creating another grouping or list of other words.

13:51 And so again you're back to the circular reference idea. Well yeah. But we get down to the primitive of the morpheme the, the smallest piece we can break this into. Right. So we do eventually have a primitive that we define. And once we have that primitive we build on it. Right. Yeah. Right. So there's a, there's other words that have, you know, roots in like Latin or.

14:11 Oh yeah, whatever. I mean the hell like circum you know, you can circumnavigate, you can circumcise, you can circumscribe, you can do all these things. Right. So circle means to go around. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so what's interesting is as language changes and goes forward into the future, you'll have a word that gets used in a new way that no one has really used.

14:30 I don't have one ready for an example, but yeah, but, you know, like you said, an influencer starts using this word, right? The definition. I'll give you an example is, my son keeps saying sucks, sucks. Oh, yeah. That's us. Yeah. And so basically suspicious suspect. Yeah. I suspect you of something. What your activity is, is suspicious.

14:53 Yeah. Yeah. And like, sus means like something a little different to me. Like, just hearing that rock and sus. The little tiny word is applied to so many things. Right? Right. That you wouldn't apply suspicious or suspect to. Like, for example, suspension. There we go. So, you know, and so what I'm saying is that you can get this modern day, you know, use new, new kind of, you know, youthful use of a word.

15:20 Yeah. That is then used in its own playful context within, you know, in this case, video games. Right. And have nothing to do inevitably with the, with the core word or the root. Right. Right, right. And so then that word though will be influenced by what you just said. You know, that kind of morph piece, that fragment of a work.

15:40 And so you have all these other contexts through from all the other words that have that part in it. And now you have this, like kind of strange. You have an aberration. You have something an outlier that's over here. It's like it's not really related to the other words that look similar to it or words that you know.

15:54 So you can't go off the morphology of it. Yeah. And so when that happens, maybe then you get this kind of not confusion, but this, this strange blend of ideas in your mind. And, you know, they say English is one of the hardest things to learn. I would definitely argue that's probably why. Yeah, all these edge cases, all these aberrations.

16:16 So you know how like a have changed texting like you know now emoji is like it's going back to like this pictograph kind of primitive. You know certain combination of emojis. You can almost argue it's ideographic like some Asian languages. Yeah. I mean, if you send someone lip eggplant, lips, eggplant, you know, suck module. Oh, that wasn't even going to say it, but.

16:39 Yeah, right. You can head it that out if you want. No, I'm just saying, like, that's, you know, I mean, a form of communication that we can't leave. People wonder. Yeah, right. I think most people knew that. But, you know, the point is, is that, you know, 20 years ago, if you were to send a letter to someone, you know, with the OG with lips and an eggplant, they'd be like, like, do you want eggplant palm tonight?

17:04 Like, what are you. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. And so now, like, the image of an eggplant has now, in some people's mind, taking a completely different form. So when they see an eggplant, like at the farmer's market or in the grocery store, the association is different. Tell me that. Yeah, but tell me that doesn't have a connection in the brain.

17:25 Well, yeah, I'm saying they they immediately associate it and they might have a chuckle. Yeah. But, you know, I guess I did want to mention something that I meant to interject earlier. We were talking about root words where where things might come from, whether it be dramatic or Latin or whatever. And, one of the pieces that people put up for evidence for a strong version of the war five linguistic relativity is to say.

18:01 Eskimo languages, basically saying there's like, there's one or something. There's tons of the tons of dialects of the internet as well as other cultural languages out there, but, that they have hundreds of words for snow. Yeah, yeah. Well, whenever you look at all the different tenses, they have the modifiers for the word. Yeah. They do. But when you look at all the modifiers for lots of other words, everything which does to.

18:35 So really it's just a lack of in-depth understanding of the structure of the language. When people perpetuate that, it's just it's not that they think more about snow or that's looms larger in their experience. It really is just all the different tenses and modifiers you can put on a word. Gotcha. Well, it would make sense that they would have some kind of necessity for a little more finer description of snow, right?

19:01 You know, a lot of things, but they're not hundreds of words. They're just ways of refining the description, as you say. Right. Right, right. Yeah. It makes sense. It makes sense both from the language and the context. Yeah, I hear it. So it was a really interesting that idea of that subjectivity of language and how we kind of have a real framework for every word, you know, each person, each individual person, and that's it.

19:24 I really think that's the key. It's only an individual level. And then it feeds into a macro level. And then do you like kind of notice if you've ever written stuff at length or even like, just kind of reflecting on your own speech, you have a tendency to gravitate towards certain words. Oh heck yeah. You feel it's it's like a, you know, the old adage, the carpenter with the hammer, you learn these tools, you understand them.

19:49 Well, yeah. And so then you get this influence of this micro group, like a corporate speak, let's say. Right. And all of a sudden you're using this, these banquet, this buffet of words, you know, this, this, this bag of words that like, never would you use, you know, in any other context, right? And you can almost hear sometimes when people are trying them out, like they're rolling them around in their mouth and they're getting used to them, like, like you can hear, oh, you haven't used that word very much, right?

20:18 Yeah, yeah, I hear you like someone that's been there for two months. Doesn't have the bag of words yet. Yeah. And then you you kind of notice that in the years time they have them all like. Yeah. And they're confident with them. They use them like a tool to cut through and to define meaning quickly. Well at least for the subgroup in my opinion.

20:38 This is like they're, they're, they're words that just sound like they have meaning but they carry little, you know, in general. Right. But I'm saying they have a they, they can be a certain tone or meaning or direction for the subgroup. Exactly, exactly. Whether or not they actually have any real content. Exactly, exactly. And then and then there's like this tribalism or group ism associated with that as well.

20:59 Right. Yeah. Like you kind of get into an in-group outgroup thing based on who uses those words. It. Right. Or maybe even who uses them the most. And as an example. Seriously, it was interesting. There's a gentleman that I worked with who just started a couple of months ago, and he's like, hey, he calls out like, I need a sheet of acronyms and what they mean because he's like, I can't understand you guys in meetings.

21:25 I thought that was ballsy. Yeah. And, tell you about I made that. I made that glossary when I was working for atrium. Nice. I made that. Well, that's what this guy's doing. He's making it. Yeah. Oh, he's talking about. I'll pull up some old files for him. Oh, damn. Nice. But, So what I did was I created a,

21:43 Basically, there was, there was a a division of the company, and then within that, it had sub departments. Okay. And the different departments were using words with their own meaning, like they had, like, we're just talking about that their own subculture, they have their own way of using a word. And you ask some ask somebody to carefully describe to you what that word means.

22:03 Right. And they'll and they'll tell you. I'll say, oh, it means dead it up. Right. For example, when you ask somebody of a hospital, what is the square footage of the hospital? Right. Well, so the real estate people, the land use people, they might look at the acreage. Right? Right. Or some of the periphery parking lot adds to to the square footage of the building.

22:22 Right. Yeah. And then you ask, the maintenance might just look at your building interior space. Yeah. Right. Usable. In serious space where patients can be seen. Right? Yeah. And then others might include, like, the basement and, you know. Right. Like. So you go all, all of a sudden, you get into this idea of square footage and you have 12 different ideas within, you know, these various groups of what that is defined as.

22:44 And they're all using the same term in their meetings and their discussions, but they have their own version of what the of the boundaries of it, the definition. Right. And so there'll be meetings together and not even realizing they're using the same word, but meaning to different things when they're talking. And then when people bring up numbers, they're like, whoa.

23:03 Right. Especially when they bring them up in the aggregate. So like like this is off by a factor of two. You know what I would expect. And then emotion gets into it. Like how can they be so wrong. You know like. Yeah. Why is there data. And then they just back everything this group says is wrong. And they write it off.

23:19 Yeah. They get sus real quick. Right. Yeah. And, so what I did was I made literally a glossary. Okay. And the the person morning. The person would log in to the glossary tool and it knew from Ldap, you know, exactly what their department was and you know who their boss was, etc.. Yeah. Right. It knew the org chart based on their login.

23:42 And so I knew what department they were in based on their log in. And they would they were asked to define the word. If a word wasn't defined, they would be asked to. Did you stop recording? Oh, nevermind. Yeah. So, if a word wasn't defined, it would be eligible for them to define it. Okay. Okay. And so then they would just put it on what they thought their definition was.

24:01 And then if someone from another department disputed that okay, they would say no, no, no, that doesn't mean this, it means this. And what happened is that it would escalate if there was a dispute escalated to the next person higher in the org chart. So the idea was to bring the bring the term all the way up as high as it needs to go to get unified, get a unified definition on what that term means.

24:22 Wow. And but then it worked. Okay. So bubbling it up worked. Is what you're telling me? Yes. You can still retain shades of meaning. Yes. Yes they did. Okay. And so what I would do is I then bring up a list. I was able to sort it by list of words that have different meanings in different departments, and start to organize all this information.

24:42 Right. Yeah. At the end of the day, the, the the big boss, if you want to call them that, recognize okay. Oh my gosh. We have this huge cultural issue with this and started to like hammer down exact meanings of words. Wow. That would then be used universally throughout the department. Right. Yeah. So I had to, like, bribe and even pay people to put in definitions because.

25:08 Yeah. Really? And I got some middle managers on board to, like, mandate that people put in definitions because there was a risk to reward factor thing happening here. If someone put in a definition they might be quote unquote wrong. Right, right. And so to handle that, what I did is I had the the context that way. It's not like it came from Jack and accounting.

25:28 Right. And so so by eliminating that fear of like being wrong and so therefore unwilling to contribute once it became anonymous, people just flooded it with definitions because they had their opinions about what that word really means. Right. And everybody wants to express their opinion. And so yeah. And so I got this nice really trickle up of, you know, consensus to happen.

25:49 And it completely changed the culture. You know not even meaning to do it. That's really cool. It completely change the culture. Yeah. And so imagine that tool on mainstream society. Right. Right. So to start to unravel the spaghetti of but then we've got okay that tool in the mainstream society there has to be in mainstream society we have people who currently do make that tool and curate it online dictionaries.

26:15 Right. Yeah. But by necessity, we have to have a priesthood, so to speak, who decide what the definitions are. Tell me that you've never gone to Urban Dictionary. I mean, yeah. And that is a, you know, a dictionary for the people, so to speak, you know. Well, there's words that are just from. I don't even know what you want to call it.

26:37 Like from a, from a politeness factor or from a, from a, you know, let's keep this clean factor that's not going to appear in Mary Webster, Marian Webster or, you know. No, you know, like Mary was ephemeral terminology that might last few years and then be plowed under. Yeah. Yeah. So strawberry shortcake is not going to be in, you know.

26:57 Right. Well, the dessert might be right, but the, the move, the move. That won't be right. That's right. Right. Exactly what I'm saying. So. Whoa. Is this the actual end of Elm Street? Thanks. No. That's cool. This is, like, Funky loop this morning. So, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, like, there's this. There's this whole tire, you know?

27:21 Okay. So, like, for lack of a better term, Ebonics, you know? Yeah. Like a street talk. Right. You know, there's there's totally times where you can hear some of that and have no idea what the person is talking about. Right. And there's times where you can go, like there really deep south, like Mississippi, Alabama type thing.

27:38 You know, getting some guy you're talking about, you got rednecks, you know, swallowing their own words to the point where it's almost incomprehensible. Right. And then you got things like Creole you've got, I mean, you know, so tell me all those dialects don't come into play into the psyche. They have to. And they tie into identity as well.

27:58 They really do. But they're again, language is the most obvious artifact of culture. I think, like as soon as you meet somebody, you're going to try to talk to them. Yeah. And that's going to unveil some of their cultural biases. Biases. It's going to unveil bits and pieces of how they interact with the world. So so like it's not you don't think it's visual isn't the first.

28:24 Like so you know when I say okay when you see me. Yeah sure. No. If I like, see someone who's from Vietnam. Right. Right. I can tell that they're from Vietnam. I I've I've kind of enough people. I can tell a Japanese person versus a Chinese versus a Korean versus a Filipino. Right. You're not blind to those differences.

28:44 Right. I mean, I can I can literally, like, with a high degree of accuracy, know that. Yeah. And so if I was over in Japan or whatever. Right. I'm sure a lot of the Japanese people would see me as an Anglo or American or European. Yeah, sure. So language. Yeah. Is is a is a primitive, but also is like your appearance.

29:02 Yeah, yeah. I mean, sure, someone's appearance and what they're wearing, how they choose to wear it. Those definitely how they carry themselves and how they carry themselves. General I mean, like, I've gone verbal cuz I can pick out a veteran pretty, pretty easily. Yeah. Like the way that they walk, right. Because they, they learn a certain, you know, distinction, not just marching, but through, like, just a certain sentiment or personality.

29:27 Your spirit of the of the group. Right. Right. They they adopted some of that kind of permanently into their into their fiber. Yep. It's very interesting. So all that ties into this core then what language you use, how you express yourself. Yeah. You mentioned the other day some rapper named Pop Smoke. Yep. Well, Pop Smoke was like a phrase that people would use all the time in the military.

29:48 They used to say, let's get the fuck out of here, right? Let's smoke. Yeah. We all. That fucking staff sergeant just came in and pops up. Yeah. You know, like, nobody would say, let's get the fuck out of here. They'd say, let's pop. That was just what they'd say. Yeah. And so tell me that that didn't play into exactly what you're saying is that, you know, the identification of a soldier.

30:07 You're using all these, you know. Yeah. Phrases that are germane to being a soldier. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And, you know, so it's all encompassing. It is, it is. And it it it builds on itself. It's, that's how things become regionalized. People start. Dog food, for lack of a better term. Just being more insular, being around themselves. The military is isolated by its very nature.

30:32 You know, and so the language lines up with that and the language lines up with that. The culture lines up with that. What's acceptable, what's not all of it at the end of the day. Does that improve their effectiveness? I think so because you write, you end up with shorthand words. You end up with ways of short cutting meaning, saying it quicker.

30:51 You know? Oh, fuck. You just validated corporate speech for me. Oh, no. Well, now I have a dilemma. Yeah. I mean, you know, it might not be the only now, this specialized lexicon, this might not be the best way to communicate something, but it it is. It's a shortcut for a lot of people. Yeah. So so is language, in a way, kind of just bloated Rube Goldberg.

31:19 It is, though, because, well, it's part of the Rube Goldberg identity machine that we built, right? I mean, you know, and so you can reduce things down like, like really, really, really primitively. Right. So like, let's say that you're hanging out and you're with your spouse or something significant. Other. Right. And you can you can you you had so much time and experience with that person.

31:46 You know, if you like me, I've been married for a long time now. So we just have this, like, just automatic understanding. You know? Yeah. Like, she moves a certain way and I know what she wants or, you know. Yeah. She could be talking to the kid and point to the salt and pepper on the table, you know, like, just point to it in a certain way.

32:06 And I don't think it of as rude or, like, you know, you get it. How dare she just point, you know? So I hand it to her right away with happily hand it to her. Yeah. And then go. She's slide back into what you were doing. Right. Eating whatever. Right. And it's just this, like, little signal. You know what I mean?

32:22 And, in any other context, nothing would happen. But in the context of this, like, experiential, you know, time with this other person, language, language. And you get into this like a dance, you know, it. It is it is like this carefully choreographed thing where, you know, you notice these little cuz, you notice these little small things and all of that.

32:45 I mean, so that into the culture of our family, right? Yeah. And language is just a piece. It's not the piece. It's not the central piece. So okay. So piece. I wonder if if the children, which, you know, children pick up on things that adults don't believe, like, don't even don't even realize the kids pick up on. So when I was a kid, I knew everything that was going on in the house, right?

33:07 My parents were totally naive to the idea that I knew everything was going right. Why are you going to unveil your position? Yeah. As far as they were concerned, they were, doing things in secret that I had no idea about. Right. Right. But they were keeping it from me. Yeah. But I tell you, I knew everything was going on, right?

33:24 Right. And so I realized that my kids are probably the same way. Oh, yeah. And what happens is that my children probably don't understand a sophisticated language visually. Erik the youngest. Right. But they get the general flow of things, the tone of things where where things are headed. Right. So I wonder if that harmony that I have would sue.

33:43 You know, I wonder if that harmony like is a is a is a pacifier for them. Like it gives them a feeling of confidence. I can say from my own personal experience, I've reflected upon the harmony of my parents and gotten quality from it then and later. Perfect. So. So yes, as the answer to that. So then also the converse then would be true.

34:04 Yeah. If there's like shit going on in the marriage there's money issues. Whatever. Right. And regardless of how much the parents try to hide that from the kids, the continuity of that flow of the graceful spirit, you know, that the family is sharing is broken. Right. And so the kids are going to pick up on that and then have that experience thing go into their lives.

34:26 Yeah. And they're going to that's going to inform future relationships interaction and interaction. So what I'm saying here is that the lexicon of the language itself, in that subculture will be augmented based on circumstances that are happening. So there's another wrinkle to this whole conversation, because maybe language being used in a certain way, in certain contexts has its own tone that adds to the moment in that particular environment.

34:52 For example, you have an emergency situation. Right. Everyone's running around acting differently and talking different, using different words, right, than they would normally use, like in a pleasant ROM conversation. If you are a if you're an EMS person, there's economy of word in action. Yes. Yes. You know. Yes. If you're a less experienced person, there might be a lot less economy.

35:14 You might just be spilling over emotionally. Word wise, action wise, you might just be flailing. So all that, all that ties into even momentary or circumstantial, you know, cultural epitaphs of language in different moments, in different settings. Right. Right. So but then very there's boundaries around it because of the culture. There's boundaries around it. If you've been in a situation before, you know more what's appropriate or how to handle.

35:43 It's it's experiential. It's cultural. It's language. It's thought, it's social and social acumen. Like being able to read the situation, determine your role. Yeah. There's so much and create created in these micro environments. So for my kids I try to never say do this, do that. Right. I try to say, hey, you know, only please, blah, blah.

36:07 Right. And, only if the situation has some type of, gravitas. Right. Or like level of importance. So let's say, say that again. Only, only if the situation has some kind of, like, magnitude of importance. Yeah. What I, what I start to become like a command speaking, using command speech. Okay. Right. Like, you know, he's about to reach for the baby, so you don't want to stop.

36:34 Right? You don't want to overuse that. You don't want to make it trite. You don't want to make. You want to make it reserved for a situation where immediate action is needed. Right. So the default is like try to speak in a respectful way, even to a child, because you're trying to convey that, like, you know, I care about being polite to you because being polite is a is a is a and by extension you should carry people like to others because I'm polite to you.

36:56 Right. That's the default way of being. Yeah. But when the when the time comes or you have to take charge. Absolutely. You step up and you can be in command and say, stop and use action words. Right. Yeah. Like, go over there, you know, because something there's something danger like a squirrel comes in the house and I'm trying to capture it, and I don't need the baby up on me and the squirrel running across the baby's face.

37:17 Right, right. Because the squirrels, like, in a tack mode, it's cornered, right? Yeah. And so in that kind of context, he'd tell the baby, get over there, you know, and the baby does it, and baby does it because I've used I don't use this often. That's not my standard go to. And so it has that shock value as well, which then gets in the brain quicker and gets the kid to react.

37:35 Right. You know so there's a utility in it as well. Yeah. Yeah absolutely. The reservation of it for the situations where it's absolutely needed. So the utility of language is part of this that falls into this cultural line. So right. Some languages obviously will have stronger and more direct command words than others. Right. Right, right. Like, I mean, our intuition says that German would have stronger command words.

38:00 Yeah. Yeah. There you go. There you go. Yeah. It's like 20, 25% of the language is like military command. Was they paid the. They paid all their money back, like I told you the other day. So they they're good. They're good. Their allies. Their allies. Well, even though we're good, we're we're not besmirching any culture. We were just kidding.

38:19 But yeah. And my wife works for bass. I don't dare say any more. You don't want to be on the list. I don't I don't want a yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't know what that meeting in the, in the, in Germany to occur and say positivity podcast. What the fuck. Yeah. So. Yeah. So p p.

38:46 Why have you spoken so ill of us? Not the company, not the company. Just the culture and all the people. Oh, oh, that makes it okay. Even this.

39:02 Great turn around? Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Dude, this is like, fucking hump day for me, man. I'm dragging ass. I've had a long week. Do you say you do a lot of work? What is today, even Wednesday? This Wednesday it is hump day. Okay. Yeah. Damn. That's okay. Maybe you're worse off than me. If you're fucking day of the week is blurred for you.

39:23 Yeah. It's rough. So I say yes to this, this this idea. But I say yes to the weak version, not the strong. Yes, I we're complete unison. I think the weak version is we play. I think people are. You know, you have human nature constantly in play. Yes. So language and stuff would be a higher order. It's not a basil function, right?

39:43 It's more higher order. So therefore it has it has a weaker potential potentiality. Yeah. It's father. Father up the stack. Yeah, yeah. So if it were, if it were all the way down to an instinctual like you're born with the language, then I think it would be more than influential in our area. But language is acquired. It's put it's layered on top of all these other things we do have in-built.

40:06 And so you're also indirectly today, today highly advocating for everyone to learn a foreign language. Yes, because of relativity you will understand things better relative to your language. You'll have a deeper understanding of other cultures because that's what you're learning. When you're learning the language, you're learning the context in which it was created. You're running the culture because it's in there.

40:33 It's baked into it. Yep. Gotcha. Yeah. I'm so, Yeah, I was arguing the opposite the other day. I was like, you know. Yeah, let's see one language and then you learn a second language. Well, obviously there's only so many languages one human mind could learn. True. You know, but from what I understand, once you gather a couple of languages, you can keep collecting them.

40:51 Your brain starts to. Yeah. Attenuate to being able to do that easier. Yeah. Well, it probably relates like, okay, if you know two romance languages, you could probably pick the rest of them up pretty easy, right? Because they're all there's so many coming out, so many similarities. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So so that and then you know, but still there's like this limitation.

41:14 No, no. But you know, I don't know what the there's savant out there probably that speaks a dozen or more. Oh yeah. Yeah. But, you know, in general, the typical person, like, I met an African guy who, because of where he grew up, he grew up in a trading crossroads. He knew seven languages. Okay. That's incredible. Yeah.

41:33 And so, you know, that's not the common. That's not in reach, I don't think, for the common person, you know, but very specialized circumstance. But if we grew up in that circumstance, we may have been in the same place. Sure. Fair enough. Well, here in America, we know lots of people that are bilingual just because they grew up in a household that spoke foreign language.

41:49 Exactly. And so it's like just natural. They never even had to give it a second thought. Yeah, yeah. There wasn't an active acquisition of this second language just accreted over time. Yeah, yeah, that was a super cool. I wish that my kids had that had that exposure. Right. Same like built in second language. Right? I mean, that's totally cool.

42:07 And, you know, it's, there has been some idea, some not concrete studies done, but some correlation between knowing a second language and not having, certain, age related degeneration, with your mind, you know? Yeah, I bet that's. I bet that's the strong evidence for that. So, I was thinking this this, this kind of bilingual, trilingual.

42:37 My point the other day I was talking to you about this was that the technology tools are actually getting there to where, you know, you can literally almost we're not far from being able to have a real time conversation with someone, a foreign language speaker, using technology tools. So I have it earbud in, they speak, it translates it, you know, so Douglas Adams fish realize.

42:56 Yeah. Right. So, you know, there's a that'll be our demise because then we do succeed in the Tower of Babel. And, you know, that brings on revelations. There you go. Oh, shit. I was reading the Quran yesterday because we want had Indian food and they had free Qurans. Oh, that's they were translated into English. That's pretty neat.

43:15 So that's the spent most of the most of the dining experience reading from the Quran to, to need. There's some gems in there. Yeah, but there's some also like, there's some very militant language as well. Oh my gosh. Like, it's hard to find a passage that wasn't like, you know, death to the evildoer. Death, you know. Yeah.

43:34 Oh my infidel, that's the, you know. Holy shit. Right. It's pretty, pretty fucking strong. You don't agree with them? They don't want you upon the Earth. That's pretty strong. Powerful. Yeah. And if you know you believe that, and you tie into that ideology, I can see how you can get. What's your stream pretty quick. Once you're. Once you're steeped in it, you know?

43:54 Yeah. It's got to be hard to, you know, the Bible says a little phrase here. Raise up a child and the way he should go, and he shall never depart from it. I think that kind of applies to everything. You raise somebody up and something, it's hard for them to get past it. Right? Yeah. Very true.

44:12 So funny. We came by the other day. The same cat was in the same window. That's funny. I think it likes it. It's watching Allen Street TV.

44:21 So there's another wrinkle to the cultural component. Is that the the religious language. Right. Yeah. Of various cultures very much integrating into the language. And that layers upon it and informs it, just like we were talking about with Bible translations and things like that, the books that people have, the most of people will draw them, will have words and cultural touchstones from, I'm sure, in the Bible, in certain into, you know, in certain European, spheres.

44:52 It's the most popular damn book. Interesting. I wonder if that also ties into, not just the cultural and the religious. Spiritual and all that thing for language. I wonder if it calls in like physio physiological response, probably. For example, you know, somebody wounded on the battlefield crying out for their mom. Yeah. It's like what they want is they want that comfort, that sucker.

45:18 The. Yeah, that comes with the, the the words and the tonality that the mom would use is like, I need that right now. So I'm hurt. Right? Right. And so maybe there's like, uses of words and phrases within different languages that have different physiological response that has to be right as part of that, like visceral reaction to language.

45:41 Yeah. Like as soon as you hear this, the concept washes over you and you just have this boom, you're you're bowled over, you're taking it back from it. Not just the words but how they're the inflection how they're how they're spoken. Right. Producing, producing the the emotional and physiological response. Right right right. So so there's another dynamic of language.

46:03 So so okay. So like if you have things in certain contexts like when you watch the evening news, the new speakers and the newsreaders, they talk in a certain way. Yeah. They started they talk in a certain tone and tonality and use it. Certain words and they enunciate in a certain way. They're trained to do it in a certain way.

46:19 Right, right. To like, have a certain effect on on the on the viewer. Right, right, right. And obviously there's something to the formula because they all use it. They all do the same thing. True. Right. So you never see like a mainstream media news reader speaking like we're talking now. No. You know, there's a certain spacing. It has to be a reason for that.

46:41 Right. Of how it affects then the viewer. And it has to be some have some quality. Well, at least in our country now. Yeah, we are drawn in. We are commanded by it. We are our our attention is drawn. Think of the power because the inevitably the the collective architects press whatever you want to call them, whatever the whatever the backroom smoky group is, is creating most of the narrative that most people are talking about.

47:06 Yes, yes. And now there's even a higher level of abstraction in quote unquote news. Where there is there are stations like oh N or Fox News, the traffic solely in there. There you go. Rather than actually trying to trace the plug back to the wall, so to speak. Gotcha. You know. Right. And so so they're they're they're like subculture that they're creating will have its own, you know, what would you call them.

47:32 Dog whistles. Their, their own their own word signals. Yeah. Right, right. And all that tying together into, like, an emotional feeling. I know for a fact that when from experience that people that watch Fox News like really daily and stay on it are fucking angry. Yes. I'm not kidding you like they get angry. There's a documentary out there and I don't remember the name of it.

47:53 I'll find it and maybe mention it in our next podcast. But the documentary is basically a a gentleman who had a very even handed view. It was a considered by all points to be, you know, fairly moderate. Then he changed his consumption model. He started looking at Fox News. He started not paying attention to NPR. He started not paying attention to these other outlets and focusing more on what are thought of now as right wing outlets and his family chronicled in the documentary His Change.

48:27 Wow. And they. And it was over a period of months, not even a year. And then they figured out ways to block his consumption of these things. And that normalize proves everything that we're talking about. Yeah, it does. And that's a that's a strong version of it. Yes. Right. Yes. Well, brother is saying to some extent I mean talking about that he never would talk about Sam.

48:51 Sam, my roommate is mentioning the same thing. His family's become more extreme. Become, you know, a version of themselves he doesn't recognize because of these media outlets. Well, that's. That shows you the power of the language, the power of the Annunciation and the power of the culture that's attendant with it. Wow. You know, that's like, almost scary to the point.

49:12 That's that's that's with, with lack of better terms, a a some form of mind control. Yeah. Yeah, it is, it is really because these, these news outlets, whether they be extreme left or extreme light, right. Use a command language, like you said, they call you to action. You know, even if that action is no more than just proselytizing on their behalf, just spewing shit on their behalf.

49:42 Right, right. And then, then the feedback loop, the loyalty that it creates, then to that narrative. Yeah. Commit to it more or less. Wow. Because now that you're under that command, you have to commit to the mission, right? Because you've you've like greed even if that was applied. Yeah. Right. Even if it's implied consent, you know, you've given the permission, right?

50:01 You're dedicating yourself to this. I didn't think about it like a mission. It really is, though, you know? So then now you're out in the world as a crusader. Yeah, yeah, more or less in Religious Crusader, because they've created a us versus them dynamic. And we know that's powerful. Well, good to go back to the Germans. That's one of the tools they used.

50:20 Yeah I don't think very many Germans in the battlefield thought they were the bad guy. No, no, they were like, we are us. We are. We are the right. We are spearheading truth or purging humanity of the scourge. Right. We're doing everybody a favor. Well, I mean, it's a it's a really, higher level version of of natural selection.

50:42 If it was able to go to its extreme, you know, and if you use that as your justification, you say the human race needs this, you need this global purge because you know, the best and the brightest are being undermined by the, by the by the weak in the. But there again where's your selector. Selective criteria. You know whatever whatever works for me.

51:00 Yeah of course. But I'm saying, you know, it has a huge effect like you know, not to say this is absolutely true, but I have heard, you know, there are subsets of Jewish families that, like the Ashkenazi Jews that have more, incidence of certain types of diseases or birth defects, like Tay-Sachs, not being able to process lipids.

51:26 Right. And, you know, could the German purge, so to speak, have helped hasten this or create this genetic pocket that's more susceptible? Don't know. No, because technology is becoming the new selector. Right. Like as we move into the future. And so technology inevitably is going to be able to overcome any human deficiency. Like you know what we're doing with genetic modification.

51:51 But there again we have to go with has this improvement, has this leapfrogging of a problem been privatized or is it available for general human consumption and privatized? But like everything else, it becomes widely available over a decent span of time. Like all patterns run out after a certain amount of time. Right. But then we have people who are trying to continually extend them.

52:15 Right? Of course, you know, like copyright for an author's work is now the author's life plus 100 years. What is that shit like? You write a book today, you live to 100, then, you know. So that's what another, you know, 50, 52 years. So you live 52 more years, and then. Then another 100 years. Your family profits off of your writings.

52:42 I never thought of the idea of living to 100. No, no. Not really. I won't, but why not? A lot of change has to occur. Like now. If I lived to be in my 80s. 90s, that's for sure. Like, I have to go on a very low calorie diet and stay on it, like, for the rest of my life.

53:03 I mean, you know that, like, about age extension, that's tomorrow night's topic. I know social aging, age extension. So you're going to talk about the blue zones and technology of aging okay. So maybe are you going to mention like the blue zones that people live in and practices they tend to do and how the what do they call them whenever you live super long century.

53:22 Well, yeah. And whenever you're 100. But I thought there was a word. I thought there was a word for their probably is. It's just not my. Yeah, not in my brain. It's not in mine either, obviously. But that's the topic I was talking about the science and technology of aging. And like, obviously there's the obvious of like what happens if everyone stops aging, you know, obviously overpopulation and a bunch of, you know, issues.

53:42 But that's the obvious stuff. The deeper stuff is like, how does it change your psychology? You know, if you live to be 1000 years, you start to look at the planet a little differently, start to look at climate differently. Did you ever watch the show Altered Carbon? No. Talks about that. They well, they give their own version of it by having these people who was just a lead class who's lived around, you know, some of them a hundred years, some of them 200, 500, a thousand, you know, and once you gain it, they do it through technology.

54:13 They do it through we've cloned ourselves and we're storing the offsite backup of ourselves over here. Oh, I see that's been played out in many sci fi like that. Yeah. So, it's interesting just to finish the conversation about language. Is that in Nova Social? I've gotten complaints from people over time saying, you're talking too fast and you're using too many words.

54:33 I don't understand. And I privately told them, it's not my fault that raise yourself up. Don't bring me down. I'm not going to dumb down anything. I'm not going to talk at a level I'm not going to. I'm not going to talk down to people like they're done. Right. So record it and figure it out. You know, basically the idea because there's nothing that I'm saying that's outside of, you know, mostly normal language.

54:58 And if I use a word or two that's like, you know, difficult for somebody, look the fucking word up, I'm not going to start talking like, you know, at a third grade level. I see what you're saying. But like, I guess, you know, and it's a real pain in the ass to do this, and you might not even have time for it, but I'm thinking, you know, if somebody says it, you say, well, is there a word or two I can help you with, but also raise yourself up?

55:24 You know, I've just been I mean, I wasn't that strong. I use softer language, but that's that's the message. Yeah. And really it is. It's like if you want to participate in something like this, you have to meet us in the middle. And, it's sad that it saddens me that there would be enough of a chasm between what we're saying and the rank and file.

55:45 Anybody who just might show up that they wouldn't understand. Because I'm not highly educated. I'm saying the same thing. Like, you know, I'm not from 1 to 100, one, 100 being someone that's like a master of the language. Yeah. I'm not even close to you. I'm like 19, 25, maybe I'm ten, you know? Right. People use words all the time that I don't know.

56:07 And what I do is I go look them up. Or sometimes I will directly ask them, what does that mean? Right. Because I not only want. And you're not ashamed to do that? No, I'm not ashamed to do that. And the thing is, what I also want, if it seems like they're really proficient in that word, I want the shades of meaning, the context, all of it that they can give me.

56:25 Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. I'll see any shame and saying, sorry. I just don't know that word. What does that mean exactly. Yeah, yeah. And you know, if it's the right kind of person, they don't tell you. They won't tell you to dismiss anyway though. They just highbrow you. Yeah Cambridge dictionary. Yeah, yeah. Here's a link to let me give you the link.

56:45 Let me go that for you. That makes me want to kick people in the teeth because there is a sometimes there's a. Well, yeah, sometimes it makes me laugh my ass off. Sometimes it was the right response. Yeah, that's true, but it has to be. You know, it can't be an earnest request for knowledge that I receive that from.

57:04 It has to be a you should have known this asshole. Yeah, yeah. Point taken. So the bottom line is we both agree that that language is highly influential in people's life, but to a certain degree, and it's not all encompassing, but it's definitely a factor. Yeah, absolutely. And it's it's definitely something good to think about. I think you've so did up handily.

57:26 Yeah. Well you have to conclude sometime. Yes you do. Cool. Well that's it for today, right.