0:01 Young people. So, you know, going back in. Because I have the opportunity to go back and take a few classes and expand my mind and learn something, and I'm doing that I'm now exposed to, like, you know, maybe 18 to 24 year olds, right? A lot more than I would be on a day to day basis. And while still in the midst of middle age.

0:24 So you have you have perspective on the 18 to 24 year old demographic. Yes. And dude, I'm like, I'm not going to be cynical because, you know, each generation is different. And, you know, I, I get it. It's people are different. It's way it is. But, we're talking about some pretty fucking low energy people here. Like, really?

0:46 Yeah. Some pretty low energy people then and and, not interested in thinking about things. That sucks. And that's not, you know, it's not fair. I can't indict a whole generation for it. No, but, I mean, you can definitely speak about the subset you've encountered at uncW. Charlotte. Yeah. It's, you know, surprising. Yeah, I'm really surprised. I mean, that's the best way to put it up.

1:10 A bit stunned at how, anti-intellectual people are, like, really? Yeah. Like how, like, is it like the death of the expert whiffs of that, like. Oh, you're coming across like you had spent time, you know, learning about this. Fuck you. Yeah. And and, just really overwhelming majority, I would say fairly say 95%. Right. Just want to find out what they need to do and get out of there.

1:38 So really, it's it's, task oriented shit. Learn the minimum. Do the minimum. Yeah, totally. And, you know, every time I've been to school, I've. And most of them, some classes, obviously, this is stupid, like, you know. Right. I just need to take this art history class. Just get on with it. I get that. So did I become a individual?

2:01 Yeah. And so. But across the board, I see, like, no real enthusiasm for any of the subject matter. Like, it's just I want to get back to my video game or I want to get back to whatever it is I'm hung up on, you know? Yeah. And I can see, like, all the signs and symptoms of video game addiction and, like, terribly social media addiction, whatever it may be.

2:21 Right. You know, I see it. You can smell the stench of it on someone like, you don't necessarily know what they're addicted to, but you can tell their addicted to something. Yeah, you can tell all. You can feel that sentiment that all they want to do is just get out of there and get back to what they like.

2:34 Do something. Right. Right. Yeah. And that's a that's a shame because that that something is going to be there, you know, forever. Yeah. Like like it's there for you. It's waiting for you all the time. And it's just going to amplify and it's never going to go away. But it's like, yeah, it's it's real compulsion. You feel you get this sentiment that like, all these young people are just looking to get out of there as fast as possible and get their fix.

2:59 You get. Maybe that's what it is. Get back to whatever it is. You know, they they they find value in true. And what they find value in is not learning, not increasing their skills. Not being engaged in this at all is what you're saying, pretty much. And then I've had a couple of sidebars, you know, conversations on the side of some of these kids.

3:24 I'm calling them kids now. I mean, they are some of these younger people. And, I am able to get their get their spike in their kind of enthusiasm. Yeah. Not that I'm anything special, but I'm, like, talking about things that. But you can jazz them up. You can engage with them. Yes. And, the curriculum in general is boring as fuck.

3:47 Right. And so they're taking this first show, and I can feel some of their pain, the busy work, like writing papers these days, you know, you have all these websites that just fucking write paper for you. You know, you just say, write a paper on this. Really? Yeah. Jesus. That's cool. Or you can take a preexisting paper and drop it into an anti plagiarism.

4:06 Just notified the shit out of it. Yeah. Just modifies it. And there you go. And I have a unique paper. Yeah. So I'm sure these aren't as sophisticated as like based on these language learning models and all this shit. It's probably just like the mechanistic programing that changes this and that, and it's pretty sophisticated. Is it okay? Yeah.

4:24 And then then you could take that same paper that okay. So you just plagiarize on paper, you find a paper online. There's gazillion papers online on whatever you want. Yeah. So you take the paper, you drop it into one of these tools online and it changes. The language changes the word, changes the tone. Okay. You know, uses a bunch of synonyms, changes, right.

4:44 Changes, censored structure, verb use, all that kind of stuff. They'll even sophisticated enough to change whole paragraph structures. You know, it's getting really good. That's awesome. Then you could take the output from that. I love to see the natural language processing stuff on that. Yeah, that would be fun. And, what it does from there is you can then go to drop it into anti plagiarism filter online.

5:03 Yeah. Another like you take the output from that put it into an anti plagiarism thing and it gives you the thumbs up. Like this is a unique paper okay. Yeah. The same tools that the professors use. Right. Turn it in and all that stuff. Sure. And so what we should be doing, I think, is a set of right papers.

5:20 We should be talking about how that technology exists and works. Right? So, like, let's face it, if that that's really possible. People are going to find ways to just not do that busy work of the paper. Right. So why don't we pivot more. You're saying to hands on what don't we pivot more to doing instead of all this bullshit that really just.

5:44 I feel like these papers are often artifacts of a bygone age. Yeah. Right. I mean, really, what it is now is learn by doing. Makes way more sense to most people than it used to. Wait. Definitely 100%. The busy work of, you know, getting an education is just that. Just paid a bunch of money to get busy work.

6:07 No, that's not what I want. I want the expertise of the instructor. And I also do not want a canned reference to some, you know, material that's already online that somebody else created. Exactly, exactly. A teacher or professor giving you a video of another teacher teaching something is outrageous. Like you paid top dollar to have, you know, paid big money to have somebody actually instruct you.

6:33 Yeah. Not to have some sort of intermediary, intercede on my behalf. Like a the priesthood giving me an entree unto this knowledge. Okay, okay. I'm sorry. A bit of a rant. No, it's not. It's spot on. And, you know, that's that's the thing. It should just be, you know, take the test is really what it should come down to.

6:57 Like, take the test, pay your money, take the test and get the certification. Well, it's like that in France, the university. Okay. There's standing room only in their classes. Right? And say you attend three lectures and you're like, you know what? I could pass this test. You fucking take it and you pass it. You get the you you don't pay for the class.

7:20 There you go. You know, in there, standing room only because you can attend without paying for the class. And you know just take the test. Yeah I want to, I wanted to make and I still do want to make someday I want to make a tool for education where it's like Reddit and the best lessons and lectures.

7:36 Bubble up. Bubble up. Yeah. So so an open educational resource that does ranking. Yes. So like, the students themselves can watch a series of videos and then rank them, you know, say which one works for them. That's when they learn the best. I like that because you know that there's a teacher out there in fucking Wichita teaching slope intercept form like a god.

7:56 Yeah. You know. Yeah. And is more than happy to cast that to video to force multiply their credible teaching ability. And not only that, but if there's a platform where there's a clear link between them casting it out there and making supplemental income. Yeah. That would be that would be fine. If the system itself would be subsidized, it could inevitably be subsidized because, you know, the government has a has an obligation to educate.

8:24 Yeah. And if you link that to the government funding stream. Yeah. Totally viable. You know that they could get paid. But you know, you don't want to have children sit there and watch, have to watch. It doesn't end, you know, to get there. No, no. You didn't want to link it to either a, a well-funded nonprofit like Khan Academy or you want to link it to the government funding stream, like you said.

8:52 And the thing is, all right, there are a few languages that basically cover much of the Earth, right? Yeah. I mean, what have we got? Mandarin Chinese for one. French for two. Yeah. Spanish and English. That covers what? Most of it. Yeah. The, the those, those years of colonizing really did help spread those languages. Right.

9:18 Right. Yeah.

9:21 White Europeans for the win. So English keeps coming up. This dominant, you know, more and more dominant. Yeah it does. And you know so there's not one single lingua franca across the world, but there's a handful which would cover the Balkan. And so if you make a platform that does actually cater to the cultural peculiarities of each of these major languages and the attendant shared culture that comes with them, then, you know, maybe you can have these things bubble up.

10:01 There you go. I mean, I mean, we need something like this because the attention span of these younger people is like fucking telling it. Like, really it's it's it's been it's been ravaged. The attention span has been decimated. That sucks. Reading comprehension is fucking. Now, I've noticed my own is in tatters compared to what it used to be.

10:23 I don't know if yours is, but my attention spans not as great as it was. Totally is I when I was, when I was a kid and I could spend hours on one thing. Oh my God, yes. I mean, I couldn't go outside and play right now for 12 hours. No, but you could. It's a fucking 12 year old, right?

10:41 And I remember even, you know, getting a sign, reading like, books and reading it all in one day. Yeah, man. Like, yeah. It's fine. Totally get mad. There's no way I can do that now. Yeah. I mean, I would be like, you know, I'd start reading at 6 or 7:00 at night and, you know, be reading until 12 or 1 in the morning, you know, or I would be I would always carry a book with me in the car and I'd be reading all the damn time, you know?

11:07 Yeah. I'm smart enough to tamp down the distractions. Like, you know, it's with the phone on vibrate and or put the phone on silent and that kind of thing, you know, make a vow to keep the TV off, make sure I get drink something to drink. So I'm not popping up for, you know. Right. All these stupid things.

11:22 Yeah. And I can sit down and still get into something. But I have a little bit of a different circumstance now with children in life, you know? Yeah. You've got all these externalities so that, that, that, that increases it. But if you then overlap that even more with technology induced ADHD, you know, you're you're going to struggle even more.

11:40 So it's like nobody, you know, is immune to the symptoms of ADHD when you have this technological world singing, bleeping, flopping and, you know, yeah, all over the place, even if it wasn't designed for it. It is for our attention. Absolutely. Because attention is the modern world's most scarce resource. It's the currency. It's the currency. Yes. There we go.

12:04 And so the you know, I've started to talk to some of these people around me about this topic. You know about this. Exactly. You even said, you know what's going on. Why is it why is everyone so disassociated? Why is everybody, you know, like, everyone's afraid to talk. You can tell what when most people talk, their you tell their nervous.

12:22 Yeah. Why are you nervous to talk about, you know, talk about something. You know, about. How are you nervous. Really? Yeah. Really afraid to put themselves out there and take a risk on being wrong, you know? And, it's like there's no very few extroverted people. You know, I've noticed that technology is really introverted a lot about. Gosh, I guess it's almost three years ago now is dating this girl.

12:49 And she was younger, she was 22 and but she was completely different than all the other people her age that I had met. She was largely extroverted. She was largely into thinking and to poetry and to exploring a world, you know, like she was going to go acquire some more knowledge about some shit. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it was refreshing.

13:18 And it's like, you know, it came down to ultimately, I didn't like her. I liked the fact that she was doing these things and other people weren't, but it was just it was so crazy. Once I realized that, it's like I was almost in a social and intellectual desert at the time. Yeah, because so few people are trying to do those things.

13:41 Yeah. And so few conversations. Kind of once you crack them up a little bit and, you know, they kind of get who you are. So for me, I'm like putting myself out there as like, you know, friendly and respectful and all this kind of stuff. And because that's who I am anyway. But yeah, you know, I, I knowing that they're more introverted and kind of a little bit fragile, you have to build that bridge.

14:02 You have to have an on ramp towards these things. And I noticed that like you kind of have to early on kind of compliment their abilities. Oh right. So like so stroking ego to open them up. Yeah. And then once you do that and start to talk about a couple things that are seemingly interesting, then you can get some enthusiasm towards the conversation.

14:25 But still in general, it's like really quick to see them revert back to their that kind of shell and quiet and solemn and just. Right. You basically gotta be somebody hype man for a while. Yeah, yeah. And that's the only way to draw enough attention to even, you know, have any kind of semblance of a conversation. Yeah, I found the same thing even just a few years ago whenever I was still in school.

14:50 Gosh, I guess that would be like eight years ago now. Wow. Well, maybe a little less like 6 or 7, but, yeah. Same thing. That was the most effective way was cheerleader I, you know, and then connect. Yeah. Yeah. That that's, you know, that's a shame because, you know, I see a lot of value. I see these people as having a lot of latent intelligence.

15:15 Do you know, they grow up with all these technology tools, and these things have really definitely served them well as far as increasing their intelligence in a lot of things. But they haven't taken the time to go through those things and make connections. Yeah, and that can just come with experience as well. You know, just be a lack of experience.

15:32 Yeah. Certain things. But the physical classic analog kind of, you know, conversation with another human being type thing is very practiced. You know, and you could tell many of them did not have a lot of opportunities for scaling conversations, you know, up, up and down, different age groups and different backgrounds. That's a great way to put it.

15:55 It really is scaling it up, scaling it down. You know, really thinking about vocabulary and approach. And it's it is a skill. It's changing the tone, changing the energy, changing all of it. And you've got so many things during a conversation that you're managing. You're almost like shoving energy up and down. I mean it's it's and these people don't know how to do it.

16:21 Yeah. Then these group projects and stuff that you're working on, you could tell that during the meeting, the person is not paying attention at all, and they're playing a game or something, like they have their thing on mute and they have just their portrait. They don't have their video up. Right. Oh, and you could tell that they're trying to like, come in and just interject a few sentences.

16:39 They've learned this process like, and a lot of this is probably coming up through high school and having the virtual learning and all that kind of crap. True. You know, they've learned these little, little skills to make it look like they're they're they're there. I'm giving you my attention. Right. But you can like just with a little bit of intuition, you can tell that they're completely doing something else, like they're not really there, and they're just letting you do the work and follow, you know, that's awful.

17:00 And then but they're there. And so they've learned to be able to check that block. And I've noticed something. Talking to summers kids really cheating has been made okay. What's what you're going to do when you have your, you know, job as a program and copying and pasting off the internet? Yeah. You know, yes, you absolutely are. You're gonna you're gonna reuse you're gonna copy.

17:27 Pasta is the word of the day. But.

17:32 But when you're first learning a concept, when you're first ingesting those first principles. Right. You undercut yourself when you cheat because you don't learn it. Yes you do. But at the same time let's be honest. Okay. So let's teach. Let's teach like let's go through it. Type out that function, that algorithm, whatever that class. Learn how to do that.

17:51 Learn the structure, learn the syntax. Because you have to. And that just like syntax and semantics, if you don't unite the two, you're fucked. Yeah, you have to. You have to learn that. So so do some of the drudgery of going through and type that out. But then when it comes to everything else, let's do it the way it's really done, you know, how do you how do you go about doing that.

18:08 Stack overflow right. Stack overflow codes more of the world than programmers. Damn right. Right. I mean, between Stack Overflow and what's that other one? That's server that's in the same family? You know, those two do my job. Yeah. I mean, it's it's like, sad to admit that, but it is the reality. And so teaching should, should then overlap that, right?

18:33 You should be like, okay, here's how you use these tools to, you know, get your basis at least on how to do this. Okay. So you cut and paste this, this on this chunk of code, but then you're modifying it fit the, you know, the yes, your personal needs and the function for the software that you're building. And here's how you go about doing that.

18:51 Right. And then yeah, it's it is it does need to shift to okay. Be aware of your resources. Be aware of how to use them. And I guess you're right. Maybe we soften the I the traditional idea of cheating because it doesn't apply. Absolutely 100% does not apply. And the machine will do the same thing like so the the the computer.

19:13 But does it apply in history class more so it's still the same way it used to. I don't know, I don't. We should probably talk a little bit about history.

19:24 So this this thing where I this guy that would always put on Fox News, I gotta finish telling you that story because it's pretty epic and worth telling. So John and I decided to, you know, beat him at his own game. He he would make it a point. He'd see us come back with coffee from the break room, whatever.

19:46 And he'd, like, pretend to go to the bathroom just to go back into the break room and turn it back to Fox News. Wow. And so, like, he was so such a such a zealot of Fox News that he literally I think, you know, the oppression that I got, like my intuition said that he was legitimately like vigilante wanting to spread the truth to everybody.

20:08 Yeah, yeah. Like a Tibetan monk needing to spread the truth to ten people. Right. And so without any without like, you know, a vote or a consensus or, you know, maybe like scheduling it to where, you know, through this time the Weather Channel will be on through this time seeing it. Yeah. No no no no, it was Fox News, the Fox News only Fox News.

20:30 All right. I'm like, so he was just jealous is the best word. Yeah, right. Almost cult like, obsession with making sure that it's all in it all the time. The truth was being disseminated to the masses, you know, because that worldview that Fox News puts forward is the is the right. And that's what it is. It's a narrative.

20:51 It's a worldview. It's a philosophy. It's not necessarily grounded in fact. It's carefully grooming an approach. It's carefully grooming, a way of looking at things, a way of filtering and processing information. And what the fuck. Yeah. And I would I would go on to say is I, I bet over the course of all those years, it probably did have some kind of an effect on the people that always had that kind of in the background.

21:18 Yeah. I don't see how it doesn't have the same effect on the people who work there. Yeah. So so he would actually, when he was in there taking his break many times, he would actually like engage in focused watching, like, wow, he'd be watching the program like in a focused kind of way. Right. Yeah. Like you could tell he was engaged with the content.

21:41 Yeah. You know, it wasn't just this passive thing in the background while you get your coffee and, you know, joke, joke around with someone at the watercooler. No, he was dedicated to it. Yeah. It was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so this is he was battling at the altar of Fox News. Yeah. And we found out later that this guy legitimately was part of a militia group that trains out in the woods and that he's, you know, firearm, you know, he gets I know it's not true, but that's how I imagine the average Fox News walker.

22:10 Yeah. And so, yeah. So so we decided that it would be funny to, make sure that CNN was the news network that was on all the time. And so we had the power of the majority, like, you know, so I could go in there and put on Fox News, I mean, put on CNN. And then John was just two verses.

22:27 One basically we had to win a couple other people. We'd drug into the fight as well. Okay. And it started to really annoying him. And, what it really did, what it really did was kind of cause him to double or triple down on his efforts, really, because, like, he saw it as, like, those liberals are trying to, you know, they're going to erode certain and they're trying to assert their point of view on everybody.

22:53 Because of course, he wasn't. He was the same thing. He was he was just letting the truth be heard. Yeah, but everyone else was trying to assert their worldview and everybody else absolutely, 100%. How he thought that one. That one is for sure. Yeah. And so I had found online this little device. I found out the carrier, I found out what the remote was.

23:15 I found the frequency of the remote. I looked it up and I did a little digging, and I found this little, watch, battery powered, component, like a tiny little breadboard with some chips. Yeah, that you can program to, at a certain interval, automatically change a channel to a certain channel. Oh, right. It would send a little beam, a little mitter and a little beam emitter, and it would do it for a bunch of different brands and just.

23:41 Yeah. And have some switches on there. We can tell it this range of frequencies. Oh. And so forth. And so yeah. So I bought this thing and it had came in pieces. You had to actually like, solder it together yourself. Okay. Yeah. Came to the diagram on how to solder it. Well I could solder like a basic thing but I'm not like really good with soldering.

24:01 There's nothing dude in the office. It was a, ham radio guy. Oh, he had the skills. Yeah, he had to really have the skills. There's this one chip that was, like, required. Really, really, really fine pitch. Oh, yeah. And so he totally took the challenge, and he's like, that's awesome. You guys are so funny for doing this.

24:21 Yeah, I, I let him in on the scheme of what it was. You know he's like, you guys are just out of control here. Awesome I'm happy to help you. Right. Yeah. Yeah. When my skills to this. And the funny thing is old crusty dude that you never expect would be such a cool, like, you'd expect him to be crotchety and old, and.

24:41 No, but it was cool. Guy was so freaking cool, right? Like, totally down with the screwing with this guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I mean, it makes sense. Ham radio guys, they're the old school hackers. They're the counterculture. Almost, they they help further some of the technology that's the underpinnings of, communications today, no doubt about it.

25:04 And the personality to go along with it. Right, right. So he comes back, like, secretly, like a drug dealer comes with, like a, like, you can't see this thing. And he talks about how difficult it was to solder the fine pins and stuff. And, I was like, dude, let me, you know, let me look up with some cash, you know, let's spend some real time because it was like a beautiful job.

25:26 Yeah. Nice. All the soldering was perfect. And he's like, no way. Like this. It's payment enough that we're doing this. Yeah. Yeah, right. Just just feeling. Just him feeling a part of it was like I said. Yeah. So, we're all getting excited about it, so we have to actually wait till, like, after hours, because we gotta put this thing somewhere where it's not technical.

25:50 Just put it up on top of the camera. You gotta, like, rig it into the drop ceiling somehow. Exactly what we did. Yeah. Funny that you said that. We ended up doing right where there was this little gap in a light fixture. No, it was nearly impossible to see. Oh, that is so cool. Great hiding spot. So we one day, after hours standing up like I got a chair, you know, like, up on a table.

26:13 So I'm, like, up on the table, up on the chair, filling around the thing. And, you know, John's like playing lookout, you know, like, it's like spies. Like spies are us type of thing, you know, going through this big ritual to get this thing done. And so we had to make a decision on how long to set the timer, because if this is like changing the channel to CNN every one minute, it's not going to work out.

26:38 No. Like he's going to get wind of it probably, you know, call security and tear the place apart. But if it's more organic, yeah. If it's like once every 30 minutes or. Yeah, right. He's gonna somebody could have feasibly walked in there. Yeah exactly. And then do we put it on. Do we, do we allow the signal to like have gaps to where like over lunchtime.

27:00 It doesn't do it because. Right. If everyone's sitting there all of a sudden sees the channel. And so was this thing that fine grained of control. Unfortunately not. So we had to decide on some time. So 30 minutes was the was the go to. Okay. And so put the device in place and sure enough as hell it worked like a charm.

27:17 Every 30 minutes boom station would change back to CNN. That was playing all of a sudden the majority of the time by a lot, with no effort from you guys other than the proper application of technology. Right. Passively happening. Yeah. So the little computer machine was doing the work. The little electronic device was doing. All right. It really that's I guess that's where I keep coming back to, you know, you keep talking about the capabilities of AI, but I keep thinking about really the capabilities we were talking about earlier of programmers and programing languages and speaking to a computer.

27:52 That's the level we're still on. We're still on the mechanistic Mechanical Turk level. Right? Yeah. And so your Mechanical Turk dentist job every 30 minutes, like a charm. And this is like building now serious. I don't want to call it anger, but the anger, I mean, there's probably no other word to describe it other than unabated rage.

28:19 He has no idea how we're so diligent about every 30 minutes making sure this stuff's up. Literally, he's like, I just changed and went back in there. Nobody was in there. And somehow they slipped in there and, you know, changes like the things that were going through his mind dropped that was playing out in his mind. So really, you just increased his daily level of paranoia by like a factor of five.

28:43 Oh, right. Like the liberal invasion is now upon us. It's time to. It's time to get by that ammo. Yeah, yeah. He's like, well, I was thinking about buying 2000 more rounds. Make it 4000. Yeah, right. Because that's how they're gonna. That's how they're gonna get where the guns are going to crack down on the ammo. Right. So I'm glad I bought that.

29:03 That bullet press to make my own bullets. Oh, yes. So. So, anyway, to keep the story in here is that, you know, he's he's figuring out something that's going on. Like, there's no way possible that we can have a job and do all that and keep changing it back. There has to be a conspiracy. Like there either has to be 50 people in on it.

29:30 Like opposite gets me. Yes. Which I mean, I guess depending on the, the strength of his mind, his mental fortitude, he may have thought that, and so we're all on there one time, like for lunch or something. I forgot what the reason was. We were all in there, and he's got the remote at hand, and he changes.

29:50 Yeah. It changes. 007 check us out. And we see him and he looks right at us immediately. As soon as it happened, like, as if we had our own remote control. Right. Like he was like like in your pocket. Yeah, yeah. His head, like his head did like like one of those. Dude, it would have been so funny if you were like this.

30:08 You know what? Your response.

30:13 Snapped over like a karate move. You fucking swivel right there. You can hear the sound effect.

30:22 You know? You know, we just looked at him like, what? You know, like what? We're not doing it. We're working it.

30:29 What's your problem? Might look nice. Weirdo, right? Oh, yeah. You know. Yeah. So he's like, you can tell he's his brain is like, d d d d d d d d d d d he's thinking about how the f did that just change? Right, right. And so and he has no feedback or input from you guys. Right. We just carry on and he looks back at the team here.

30:50 Whatever. We're like oh my god laughing like but but not yeah. Not letting it be known that we're laughing. Yeah. Right. Right. We're like ripped up inside laughing. So he's so fucking pissed about this. And so like I my mission, my life duty my my my duty and responsibility is to figure out what the f is going on here.

31:15 So unmitigated, unregulated rage being channeled into figuring this out. Yes. So this is like focused. This is like Anakin, you know, when he first did the focus from the dark side? Yeah. He was about to go kill some young ladies. And so he calls in all these IT people, you know, security, whatever the fuck it is. Dude, he really mobilizes.

31:38 Oh, he he's mobilizing. He's he's calling up the Charter Spectrum. Whoever the carrier was at the time and being like, is there a feature that allows you to change the channel to, you know, and they're they're walking him through it. He's like on speakerphone. And a lot of people left the break room at this point because the lunch hour.

31:54 Oh, he jumped on this immediately. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's gonna figure out why this this, you know why why Fox News, you know, has been censored. This is outrageous. And so he's got spectrum charter, whatever. People on the phone. Yeah, sure. And, they're telling him, yeah, there's a default. There's a way to make a default channel.

32:14 Well, the thing, because there was there's a sophisticated way to make a default channel. That's interesting. Like a kiosk mode for the TV. Kind of. It's like when you first turned it on, what channel does it go to? Yeah. Okay. Same thing. Okay. Or then like a a timer after a certain amount of time or I forgot all the features.

32:30 But he's like going through these feature menu now like because he's. And none of this is enabled. Yeah. None of it's enabled. And so he's just really confused and we're still sitting there. Right. And then and then this is enough time to where it did it again. It changed back. And we're like oh shit. You know, fuck the gig is up.

32:49 And so we completely ignored that and quickly walked out of the room after that. Right. And he's like, go. He had to go by us to get back to his desk. And so we were like sitting there waiting for him to come by. And he was not coming back. He was like, he was he was there for he was there like for at least an hour, right?

33:06 Like trying to figure out why in the hell. So during the course of him being there, it had to have done it at least once or twice more, right? And so we're like, fuck, he's gonna know. And now it's getting like 3 to 4:00. It's getting, you know, kind of like the end of the day is going to come.

33:18 And the guy obviously has a job. So he, he temporarily gave up on it. But you can tell that he was like a goddamn mission. He was like, you're saying to figure out what? Figure the thing out. And so he stays after work to work on the problem, right? Wow. And so we stay after because we have a project to do.

33:38 What about. And, we're basically like, we're going to wait it out. Okay. Tonight, we're gonna we're going to be here. We're going to be here after he leaves. Only something came up. He had to go. He left. And so what we did was we went out, we went back into the room and we removed the device because it was like, you know, the jig is up.

33:56 Like he's going to start looking for a device like that's going to be right. He's going to dawn on it. Right? So we remove it and I throw it in my desk and we wait for like a week or so, you know, like, so he's back in the groove. Fox news is again the beacon of truth. Yeah. And there's shining forth.

34:13 All who are within his fear of influence are consuming it. That's right. And all these people now are, are, you know, lining up their their minds are not being corrupted anymore. Right, right, right. This this beacon of truth is shining through the fog. It is allowing them to live a better and more fulfilled life. Exactly. And so we decided it's time to, you know, put the device back in.

34:38 Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. You need to do something with your life. Yeah. Right. Right. This is a valid values of time. It absolutely is. So we put the trolling is always a valid use of time. So when we put it back we were a big haste. We didn't have the time to, camouflage thoroughly. Applause. You didn't want to put it in the same spot.

35:02 Just in case. And so I made the terrible mistake, and I just put it on top of the upper cabinet. Right? Oh. So anyway, long story short, I think you know, what's happening next is that he discovers the channels being changed back to CNN and blows a fucking gasket this time, and, Yeah, like I was pissed.

35:24 But now that now it's not just maybe anger. It's fucking anger. And, finds the device. Blames us with denial. You know, he wants to get fucking forensic analysis. Oh, my God, really? He wants to figure out where that came from and look for fingerprints. You want to run through security tapes? The security guy was my friend and knows exactly what was going on.

35:47 Oh, you already killed the dude. Oh, yeah. There's like 50 people in on this one. So everyone knew but him, right? Which man? It's crazy that everybody united so thoroughly against him. They didn't catch a whiff. Oh yeah. There they they all consensus like, strong arming everybody into it. Nobody likes it like that. Yeah. Yeah. So. Oh which again lit the fire under me for, you know, continuing this even after the device was discovered.

36:16 So the device was recovered. Confiscated. I don't even know what the hell he did with it. Doesn't matter what, dude. $5 destroyed it. Probably destroyed it ritualistically.

36:28 Headed on a target, you know, like, taped it to a bullseye. He probably called all his buddies over. They made some homemade cannon, right? They blew the damn thing to smithereens. They put it in the mouth of a pig head and shot the big head.

36:45 These, this is to symbolize the Yankee pig dogs that have a.

36:54 Band. Fox news from my workplace, and they put enough firepower into destroying it. To where? Like, it actually disturbed some people that have live, like, over a mile away or in the destruction, like, you know, they created the actual event. So world event resulted from your trolling. Yeah. So all right, motherfucker, I got you. All right, I got this.

37:17 I got this bastard at this point. Now I'm kind of mad, right? Yeah. Because just it was good natured ribbing, and he got it somewhere else, right? He's got a strong army. He's got to throw anger, true emotion at it. So I'm like, okay, now, now Minnesota win it. Fuck you. Parental controls. Bam! On the next day.

37:36 Oh yeah. The TV will not come up like I mean for internal controls like full on. The only channel that will play is in it. That's awesome. Fox news has been like excluded. Like, you know, locked, completely locked. Cannot. He can't even watch Nickelodeon during his break. He's watching. The only thing you're watching is CNN period. Yeah. Hook line sinker done.

37:55 Right. And he comes in the room sees Fox News on or in on, tries to change the Fox News. Things are locked out asking for a code. He loses his shit. Oh, he's calling HR, he's calling security. I mean he lost his shit, so he just fucking I mean, we thought he had blown his stack before, but he goes to another level.

38:19 Yep. And so? So he's just foaming at the mouth. He's he's nearly bringing himself into seizures. He's, you know, getting crazy. Yeah. He's falling at the mouth of the best way to say it. And, they have to bring a technician out to like, chain to unlock the whole device because, you know, work for a reason. It's not just like a simple hold down the reset button, like, like legit.

38:44 There's a procedure. Yeah, it's a procedure. And so, they go through it and the company, like, has to pay a fucking for a service call. Right. And I'm in this game now, full on. And now people are now money's involved. So like the upper management starts to get involved. Like what's going on. Right. Right. They feel like they have to do something about it because there's an ally of cash now.

39:07 Yeah, there's money involved. So now. Oh, now we got it. You know, now we got it's a problem. Yeah. So whatever. It was 100 bucks for the service call. I don't know what it cost the company, but it was the wrong thing to do. But, you know, hey, what was the right thing to do? Yeah. And so did it come back to you?

39:23 Well, no, they people started asking a whole bunch of questions. You know who did that? What's what's going on? You know, do you know anything about this? Of course. 100%. No. Right. Toms and nobody does. Tom toms. Always the one with the TV one was doing. So nobody dimed you out. That's good. Well, no one knew it was me, right.

39:41 But, you know, somebody could have eventually said, well, this did happen, right? Oh, yeah. Nobody dimed out as far. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody dimed out the other thing. Yeah. Because if they had dimed out the other thing, they would have made a fair assumption from there. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh, yeah. Nobody, nobody put those two things together.

40:00 But even if they did say, yeah, that was just a game, I don't know what's going on with the parental controls and all that. Yeah, yeah. Why would I do that? Thompson. Yeah. Right. And so, I'm not losing this fight. Right? Like at this point, at this point, it's like it's not just personal. It's ideological. You know, it's it's everything.

40:22 It's morality, ideology, philosophy. It's everything culminating in one now in my in my brain, it's not a mannequin Skywalker. Right? Like, right. Like I'm. I'm Skywalker with his legs off, you know, for Kenobi. Just. Just zapped me. Like, I'm like, and screaming it inside. And I'm like, I'm going. I'm gonna win this battle. Like, this is my. This is my fight to win them.

40:48 Right? And so my next step was a formal complaint to HR about the, the Fox News, you know, and I mean, I'm talking like a huge research backed essay that I wrote about Fox News playing in the break room 24 over seven. It was like, it's absolutely unfair and inappropriate for, you know, this known propaganda, you know, to be for for people, you know, people to, to be changing it 100% to this channel and not allowing any other channel to play.

41:23 And so I went, I went the whole like, Holy shit, shit house lawyer, you know, snively little, you know, dickhead route. Sure. And 100% got my way. Really. The TV was then put on a schedule, and Fox News was only allowed for a very short period of time, but it was allowed to be fair. There was a lot to be fair.

41:43 So I did the diplomatic channel that I, that I hate, you know, it's like you used your ability to communicate effectively and speak in a very corporatized, HR friendly way to get your way, which, yeah, sure, it's to be hated, but it's a skill to flex when you need to. Oh, I still hate myself for it to this day, but I mean, dude, you know, but but it squashed it.

42:13 It did. It had the effect that I was going for. And yeah, that guy's internal hatred was like pretty insane after that. Like, that was that was a serious, serious blow to his, his world. Right? Right. He thought he was the he he thought he was the arbiter of truth. Yes. And and taking that away from him was like something really a value in his life.

42:38 Because I'm really in it. I don't know how Fox News does it, but clearly they insinuate themselves into the identity of their watchers. Yes, they really shape the not only just the worldview, but who these people become. Yes. And I just don't get it. Like, how do you have such unswerving loyalty to an information source? I've never been this way about anything.

43:10 Yeah, I'd have to look at it more to really understand. I mean, even when I was on drugs to the hilt, you know, it's like I didn't swear. Filthy to the drugs, you know, it was like, well, I like them. I really enjoy them. Sure, but, you know. Hey, I can I've decided that I want to do other things.

43:33 Let me do that. So I think I still think I'm still LinkedIn and Facebook with this guy. I wonder if I should ever if I should, I wonder if I should just send a message someday and be like, you know what? I'm the one that did that. Oh, shit. Oh, now, that wouldn't be one thing. I mean, I know what the next step would be is he would just completely unfriend me and and.

43:54 Yeah, not that I. And what if you ended up accidentally working with him or something? No, that's not possible. Yeah, that's not possible. But you know, why burn a bridge? Yeah. Even though it might feel good. Kind of.

44:14 It's funny. It's pretty forgiving person in general, but I'm not a forgetful person. Yeah, it's like you might forget, but you will remember. And I feel like you do yourself a disservice if you forget with the forgiveness. Because if you remember, then it will. It's part of your protection mechanism to ensure that it never happens again. Yeah, I'm kind of like elephant.

44:37 Never forget when it comes to people that have burned. Oh, same slights I will remember until the end of time. And unfortunately it's on how I remember it to anonymously level. I wonder how common that is. I'm not sure. So, you know, even even family members that have slighted me and, you know. Oh, same. Yeah, yeah. Said not a blood to second in water kind of person.

45:01 No no no no I unfortunately will remember to the end of time if you've messed with me or I felt slighted, even if it was wholly manufactured in my own mind. That's another story, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying I've realized over the years that some of them I, I created, you know, and but yet I still carry the torch.

45:28 Yeah. So, so I have to be honest and think about how trivial and how, like, horrible that was for me as an employee who spent so much time and energy on, you know, such nonsense. Right? Because at this point in my life and and kind of back then, too, but at this point in my life for sure, like I give less than a on TV.

45:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But for some reason, like this triviality engaged you. It really did. And, you know, you get sucked up into this first world problem. Yeah, yeah. This this this, this, dumb corporate warfare, passive aggressive and all this, you know, it's just all so dumb. And, you know, I'm a little bit above and beyond that at this point in my life, but I don't know.

46:12 Am I in the same situation? Would I not just do it again? Probably. But I feel like you do it. It's a very least you do it with more skill and panache. Totally would. I wouldn't leave the device up on top of the cabinet there. I'd have like, it'd be like I'd make a hole in the side of, like, the coffee can, right?

46:34 Like a false bottom in the coffee jam and. Yeah. This, this bottle of gin or this container of JF g from 1970 would just stay there.

46:46 And it'd have to be like, I find a particular brand of coffee that has an eye in it. So the dot in the eyes. But.

46:53 It's a little anodes sticking out.

46:58 Like perfectly masked. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The little nipple sticking out with the IR emitters. Yeah. Perfectly hidden. Yeah. And it's got like, you know, load balancing and, you know, it's got dampener redundant systems like 3D printed 20 parts. So, so like the can doesn't even have a weight distribution issue. But.

47:23 Then you productize this shit, start selling it. Plenty of people want to spy on that. Spy on their wife.

47:31 Good thing she drinks coffee. Oh, nice. Or likes Jif peanut butter. Yeah, exactly.

47:40 Or any other products. That's got an eye on it. Yeah. Oh, iPhones. You know. No, it doesn't have that little dot. It doesn't. Damn, that's so funny. Anything like, you know, I can even I can even, like, sophisticate my brand and go for products that have O's in them and then use the center of the. Oh.

48:00 Right. You're like, you're studying typefaces and kerning and figuring out all these different things. Yeah. Become a product design expert just because I want to change a fucking DV channel. Oh yeah. It's like, you know, it's like if you go into industrial design quite by accident. Out of revenge. Yeah. It was a four year degree, followed up by a, you know, another two years of masters and then six for my PhD.

48:25 Fox news is never on the fucking TV.

48:32 In fact, I found a way to like, remote control. Thousands of DV. Like, yeah, every time I drive through neighborhood, every TV goes off of Fox News. You're doing this at scale. Yeah. And I'm, like, working on how I can hack it into people's smartphones. Like, you know, it's got the cat video app that every time you turn the cat video up on that video app on, it changes your channel off of Fox News.

48:55 Oh, that's so funny.

49:00 Oh, it's like you've figured out the the EMF emitted by different smartphone models. You've attenuated them in such a way that it gets filtered and turns into this IR signal somehow. Yeah. As soon as as soon as a meow was heard by your phone mic, it sends out the beacon changes.

49:25 And then some. Somehow, like in the in the AI ether of the of the modern, you know, industrial world. Fox news drops all their cat ad advertising from the system because they come up with some weird correlation between the two. I figures out there's something to do with cat meowing and, you know, Fox News, I have no idea.

49:43 But I figured it out somehow made the correlation. And then they end up with less the way less problems. And you have to key in on something else. Yeah. Just my pillow. Oh, shit. The one syllable uttered by Mike Lindell, which is you from Fox News just yet. Or just any time the name Trump is anytime Trump, the word Trump is spoken.

50:07 I mean, that would just be too obvious. It would, I think, left I think left anytime they say left Lib tired. Oh live tarred that'd be to live tarred. Yeah. Changes. You know what would happen.

50:24 It's the Chinese I know it's the Chinese. Yep, yep. It's like. And that's it. The meow was a dog whistle. We cook cat's meow. Change away. So what's funny about you? Facebook. You know, I sent you that article about Facebook getting taken down a notch because TikTok is taking a lot of video and their value dropped 25% the other day.

50:45 So so they're, you know, the attention span of people is being pulled by these different apps. And remember, we talked about it extensively now that that's that's the that's the money. Is the mindshare like the time on the time you spend on the app is the is the money. That's the holy grail. Yes. Yes. It's all about focus and attention.

51:02 Yeah. How can we steal it. Right. And so just by drawing the attention away from something else and ironically, this is the Chinese TikTok is a Chinese owned right thing and all that. So which is why the Trump targets were against it. Yeah. And so if Zuckerberg played by the rules and helped Trump get reelected, the TikTok would be banned right now.

51:20 Yeah, yeah. That's right. We and and I am pretty obvious. I'm sure Zuckerberg thought about it, but he's kicking himself now. Yeah. I mean, you know, and meta has he he had a video Zuckerberg the other day where he was tearfully, intimating Facebook's transition to video to compete with TikTok and such, and he was like, we're gonna do this.

51:48 I'm like, fuck you and die, please.

51:52 So you don't like the platform? I see. Oh, no. It's my favorite. No. Yeah.

51:59 Well, so, you know, social media, there's if you get enough vulnerability, like, once the business model of, like, just hooking people into this dopamine cycle of doom scrolling and, you know, that's pretty much what I don't like it, the changes that it has wrought upon our society. Yeah. The algorithm just to just designed to get you in the right emotional states.

52:18 Your ads are more potent and all this bullshit. Sure. Like it's it's so cliche at this point. Right. And people don't really know. The majority don't know how the inner workings of that stuff, but they still have the feeling of it. They still can feel like a bit of what's happening. Right. And so there's an intuitive intuition. And so then that's creating like this bad taste in people's mouths, right?

52:37 When they use the platform. Sure. Over time they'll get this like intuitive understanding of kind of what's happening even though it's not exposed. You know, it's black box because people are talking about it. People are. You're getting exposed to the idea, you know, you might not even understand what an algorithm is, but you do on some level. No, you're being controlled by this thing.

52:56 Right. And so with that being said, you know, it's it's going to be that inevitably, I think social media is going to lose its allure because of that. Like, do you think the pendulum is going to swing the other way where we end up getting rid of it or extricate it totally or no, it's going to have to turn into like what I.

53:15 This is my belief that I think it's going to have to turn into a social good. Yeah, a legitimate tool that's there to help your life. And when you start to use it and see the benefit and feel the benefit, the reverse is going to happen. So it's going to take a long time for that because you know, you're not you're not based on your algorithm, on hooking people to it and getting people to scroll for longer and stay in the platform longer.

53:35 So you're not filtering the most compelling, or at least you're not doing it the same way because you're still looking for engagement with the platform, you're still looking for long term usage. The longer they stay, the more money we make sort of thing. No, I wouldn't do it that way. Well, but you were talking about doing it similar, but with good things involved.

53:55 Like I will engage you with the platform by helping you schedule your life. Right. I will engage you with the platform by helping you understand these trends, these things that are happening in your life. Exactly. And so then but with the with the model of you're more successful when the person puts it down. Yeah, right. And gets on with your life because you're more successful.

54:15 Because they're more successful. There we go. And I think over time that that model will prevail. I really do because people will feel and and, you know, everything lines up. Then their intuition that this is a good thing lines up with the actual sentiment on how it's constructed and the end result of their that it has on their life.

54:34 Exactly. And so I really, really believe in it. If if I was smart, I would just go into it full time. Like that's all I would be focusing on. But I can totally see why you're not, because there's so many things happening. And not only that, you'd be throwing away you or you'd be shelving current successes. And that's there's something to be said.

54:57 I told you I needed success, so what I'm doing right now will lead to that. So I need you. You're getting points on the board right now, you know. And I think that's the key. I think I have, like, this ten, maybe 15 year window, though, where if I'm going to create the ultimate, my ultimate achievement, it's going to have to be in that window.

55:17 So you're saying my your magnum opus must be created soon? Yeah, I mean, I, I was pretty much convinced that that was going to be work pro design, but just didn't have enough funds to get across the finish line. But that's still sitting there. That is the best thing I've ever designed that it's like has if I if I got into the details of it and showed you the the underpinning, it is the best thing I've ever conceived.

55:44 That's awesome. Yeah. But I mean, maybe, maybe with some of the philosophy of technology, philanthropy and stuff would be like a good runner up. But it's close to the if it isn't, the best thing I've ever conceived is close to it. Well, I think one supports the other. Maybe, you know, the philosophy of technology philanthropy dovetails nicely with a platform that extends that philosophy and really showcases what that philosophy can do.

56:12 It's like the demo of technology philanthropy. That's right. And the the workmen down at the lower, the lowest level. Workmen on the work crew. Right. The foreman is not going to be able to shave their hours. Right. It's all that kind of shit built right into the system. The foreman cannot just say, yeah, that person only works six hours a day when they work nine hours.

56:36 Right. Because the person themselves gets the report of of their hours. Hey, what were you doing today? Put it in. Yeah, they put in their hours, and then the foreman basically approves. It's the only way that they. That the hours could be changed is if the person agrees that they only work six hours. And you know, you run that by a business owner.

56:56 And the business owner is like, wait, no, the foreman should be able to change. It's like, yeah they can, they can change it. But then the downstream employee has to just confirm that that's the case. Yeah. Because it's not the business people from the labor. And that's what it's always been. It's always been a one way thing. Right.

57:12 The employer controls this. Now it's a two way verification. Absolutely. And the technology should be shaping the behavior of not trying to shave people hours. So yeah that's going to be built in I'm sorry. If you don't like it go find another product that allows you to skip people. Yeah. But at the end of the day this product is going to prevail because it has equitable, equitable transactions through the front to back the whole entire way.

57:35 Yeah. It allows an employee in these industries where traditionally they weren't stakeholders to be. So everybody is is becomes part of the ownership of the business's success. And they don't necessarily it's not converting every business into an employee run business. No they own business but it's converting the equity that way. The equitable daily transactions. Yeah it makes sense to me.

58:00 Yeah. Dude coefficient hard core got his bucket and his fishing poles. He's on it like he looks like the kind of guy who's gonna eat that fish. Oh, he's gonna eat the fuck out of that fish. He's going. You get caught by his pole. You're not getting thrown back. Yeah, dude. I mean, this guy is going out today to get dinner, and.

58:18 Yeah, he's just going to take the pliers and just rip the fucking hook out of your mouth and throw you in the cooler, throwing the bug it like it ain't gonna just be this gentle. You know? He's gonna rip that fucking hook from your job. Yeah. And when he first caught you, he. He whipped that damn rod so hard, he snagged that thing so deep into your jaw.

58:38 That's the least of your worry, though. Hell, he might even rip a gill out. Who knows? Yeah, and, like, not have any kind of emotional. Yeah, yeah, like stone cold serial killer dead fish while he's ripping the ripping gill out.

58:55 Jesus. Oh, well, he's really on it. He took the wool barrel out of the back. He's. It's dedicated to fishing today. Oh, yeah. Maybe have that. Maybe he's got that bad line. He's got a liner in that bed so the whole thing can serve as like a. It's a fish pond. It's a mini lake. He's gonna drive home.

59:12 He's got a chest freezer. He's gonna fill tonight. All the fucking fish. It's like catfish for months. Those poles are just a front. You gotta stick of dynamite in the dog. Always heard about people dying in my fishing. I guess they actually did that, didn't it? It looks like a more sophisticated gentleman, though. Maybe, I don't know, maybe he's just like a 500 zero volt electrode to get him that way.

59:37 Oh, shit. I shit you, not my grandpa. That's what he used to do to get worms. Yeah. Shock him. Yeah, well, he shot the ground and they'd come to the front and come to come up, and we'd get all our worms. And then we never dynamited fish head fished. But we. That's how we get our worms. We'd shock the ground, and then we'd get worms, and then we'd go fishing.

59:59 So I saw this. I saw this video one time with this person. Puts a stick in the ground, and the stick has a bunch of grooves cut in it. It takes another single record and they all come up. Holy shit. It's the frequency. It's something about the so they call the worms, basically. Yeah. It's like literally just literally like a stick with a bunch of grooves in it, but the right grooves and the right, you know, speed.

1:00:26 Thousand dollars and worms are coming out from the fucking inside, right? He's like the Pied Piper of worms. Yeah, the worm whisperer. You know, there's like a bunch of birds watching the person do that and be like, you, motherfucker. It's like, I could have been doing this shit. Why did not why did we never embrace technology? Why? Do you know what I have to do to just get one of those motherfuckers?

1:00:46 Yeah. It's like, how early do I have to wake up?

1:00:51 I've been the early bird. Some of those.

1:00:56 I've even taken that extra risk right after they mode.

1:01:05 Perched upon a mini of electric fence. I mean, I saw the cat, and. But they just modems. I knew, you know, I even did that. This fucker comes out with a stick. God damn it! We're looking for these wings. Where am I a thing? Exactly. That's what I was going to say. Just say fucking opposable thumbs up, those big brain bastards.

1:01:28 They're not even eating the worms. Using them to get another. They're just using it to get something else. It's like the fucking brilliance of it.

1:01:38 I must be in the matrix. I know that. I knew my life was a computer simulation. Now it's. Wait. Tweet over to tweet that. Yeah, exactly. Tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet bird over there. Retweet.

1:01:58 Oh, we are goofy. And then and then the the count comes up like it's flagged for spreading conspiracy theories that are unjust validated. So the birds band. The birds. Yeah. The birds threatened threatened to be banned if they continue.

1:02:16 To stick. The guy. The man. The man. Yeah. And these are these are core corvids right there. They're ravens, the smartest of birds. The entire species gets banned from Twitter. Yeah, yeah, the guy from the local. Like from from one house down that like one time through a rock at the bird. And now the bird, like, has all this shit of his, like, like the key, the the spare key to the door, you know, it's like it's all.

1:02:45 It's all in this little trove somewhere. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like this. This, this raven or crow, whatever has this, like, he's got the guy's glass, I.

1:02:56 It's good. He's just trolling the heck out of him. Yeah. Because, like, this massive collection of, like, all these guys important things. Not just like, not just like a string, you know? No, no, not just string and a but he's got all of the spare keys. The one that was hidden under the mushroom, the one that was hidden under the mat.

1:03:15 Yeah. Because he saw him go go there when he needed the spare key. Right. Went and, like, literally fished it out, like, all kinds of shit, you know, like, important stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys, like, where's that? Where's my where? The keys to the ride. Lawnmower. Yeah. Where's my USB stick?

1:03:34 It's like I will take everything from you. It's next to the glass eye, which is next to the key, which is next to the button and the string here.

1:03:44 It's like, where's my. Where are my dentures? Well, I was only able to get the top plate. Yeah. Why is the sleep over? Looked. It ran out of his mouth. Did it so fast? It was gone so fast. The guy just woke up with the hills of the dream. Like, where am I taking? Have you seen the video of.

1:04:03 It was a I think it was in Russia. This, crow where Raven, sliding down a roof on a plastic lid. Oh, cool. So. And it would, it would slide down, and then it would pick the lid up and go back up the roof and then even slide it down. That's so cool. Yeah. It's cool. And animals do shit like that.

1:04:24 And crows and ravens and stuff are like g the genius of the bird. They really are. And like, you know, that's there's no joke. They literally can hold a grudge and. Really? Yeah, totally. I would just make that up. Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah. Like if you if you, like, fuck with a crow and you're mean to it or whatever, it will, remember that.

1:04:43 And if it and if it can, it'll do things. Yeah. Yeah. It's got your distributor cap.

1:04:52 It's got all kinds. It's like Joe's not going to work this morning. Yeah, the wife's like, where's my wig? Crows wearing it. Yeah, the crows wearing it. It's like, see your wife and all her glory crows can be blond.

1:05:08 It have to be brunet. Never seen a blond crow before. All natural. These natural, long flowing locks on a crow. Yeah. These blue eyes. It's normal. Oh, yeah. All your contacts. Contact? Yeah, exactly.

1:05:22 Oh, like the the the the husband has, b e and FRI and the crows. Where? In the street.

1:05:33 Ends. Right. Like the crows. Got the other half of the best friends walking. Oh my God.

1:05:40 You're my bitch.

1:05:44 That's too funny. This dude is really taking his time getting ready for fishing. Yeah, he's got got the day ahead of him. Yep. Totally. Yeah, he's he's he's he's like right now mounting the, the Tom. Tom. Yeah. Yeah. He's mounting the tom Tom on the on the windshield on the glass with the suction cup. Right. It's got, it's got the 2017 data.

1:06:09 But I mean, how often do fish and holes change? Just saying he can only go to like, one of a dozen fishing holes now, because the other 50 that he could get to the date is outdated. Like, not the not the holes, but the navigation. Right, right. Yeah, but he knows how to work. He's committed to the technology.

1:06:29 Yeah, yeah, it's what he knows. The map updates only $150.

1:06:36 And he's got his smartphone right next to it. Right, right. But he doesn't know that he can get maps on the smartphone. Yeah, he doesn't know that he can combine like that with Yelp reviews. And find out where the actual true fishing hole is, right? Where the best dynamite fishing is the best. Yeah, yeah, fishing is dynamite fishing on Yelp.

1:06:54 There's enough granular detail. I'm gonna look that up. See if there is not. Dude, there is. It's the internet. Come on. Yeah. Right. Any conspiracy theory that you could ever think of? Well, can be substantiated on the internet. Like, true. You can't make up something that hasn't been made up before. Like it's there, right? It's like that three word game with Google.

1:07:14 Like you try to put in three words and get zero results. Oh, it's it's definitely like real words. You can't just make up like you know XFX go you know sculpt tutorial. Make a board like that right. But what that would be right. But but but albatross jungle gym stop sign. Yeah. It's forget it. That's that's those words are just too common.

1:07:39 There's you're gonna find tons of articles with those three words. Yeah. True. So the idea is to get no results. That's what I'm saying. Like what you do. Yeah. And the problem is that if you can't even search for the three words that bring them no results. Because those will be results. So, like, you can't beat the system and say give me a list like Google.

1:07:57 Show me a list of words that will stump GU. Because every three word combination that's in that list is now without findable. And thanks to somebody says he. Oh yeah. You know that's like somebody out there on maybe a troll site in some foreign country has those three words on their website. Now that is a way to totally get traffic to your website.

1:08:22 Right. Like, so advertise the shit out of the Google game of the three, doing the three words like like get plenty of people playing that game and then simultaneously sending put an AI on the task of trying word combinations that work. And then every time the word combination works, you put that on your blog, right? So then all these three word combinations that don't currently work, right.

1:08:45 That that would work. Just draw traffic to your and you could turn it into a legitimate article. Be like part 23 of. Yeah words that.

1:08:57 Work or whatever it's like for this game. Backdoor hacking, the Metta of the world. Like you, you know, all of a sudden you're like one of the most traffic sites. So I heard about a, a backronym for meta. Yeah. Most effective tactic available.

1:09:15 Okay. That's clever. Clever. Sounds good as metadata. Yeah, it's not as good as metadata. Especially not with the green Dow picture of Zuckerberg. Yeah, that's I wish I got more traction. I think just the Star Trek reference just leaves too many people behind. It's got to be a more contemporary reference. Right. But it's but it just works so perfectly like it's it's so synergistic with the reality.

1:09:39 Oh, man. You know, I know I'm going to get in trouble for it, but I, I definitely fantasize about, something mean happening to that man? I don't know. Damn. He's just reached such havoc upon the world, and he's just so oblivious to it. Like he is Captain Ortiz. Mo. You know. Well, I'm thinking about doing a small data project soon to, like, legitimately raise fundraise for, you know, a new idea behind social media.

1:10:13 Yeah. And what I could probably do is make a series of videos explaining and have something like a Kickstarter or Indiegogo. I'm thinking something like that. But then but really, really tap my long established network of people that I know. Yeah. You know, like individually contact, you know, type each person and say, look, just help me out. 20, 30 bucks.

1:10:34 I don't care what it is. Right. I mean, this is really something that can happen, and I can make it happen. Yeah. I just need the funding to do it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if if things like an animated D&D campaign can make a couple million bucks, you know? So, like, let's, let's make the social media that changes the world.

1:10:56 And here's and here's the ideas. Because I have the I have the ideas. Yeah. Laid out I mean, heavily laid out. You know, really actually brainstorm. I mean, I've put a pretty major time. Well, I mean that to me. We'll let you come up with some very fine grained fundraising goals. So you'll be able to continually release content for updates.

1:11:16 You'll be able to say, hey, now that we've had this level of success, I'm going to release this and we're going to we're going to move into this goal, or we'd like to do this or, you know, you you've got all the fodder you need to basically market it because that's the key to these fundraising campaigns, effective marketing.

1:11:36 Yeah. And have like the soft guitar playing in the background and talking about how we're going to change the world. Right. Right. But you know soft guitar is just because that's what works. Yeah. I mean you know you you recruit some, you pay it for a ceramic Laughlin track or something. I don't know. All you do is raise money for raise money for animals and shelters.

1:11:56 I'm inadvertently. Dude, if you raised money for animals and shelters and diverted 20% of that. That by accident. If you if you devoted 20% of that, you'd you'd have enough money. Yeah. Now, every time I hear Senator McLaughlin's song, I think of the shivering dog on the fucking. Oh, that's so sad. I can't even watch this commercial. You know, like there's this double guilt because, you know, you got this show on DVR and the commercial comes on, you see, like the shaking dog, and you're like, the dog is dead.

1:12:24 Now, the cat with one eye, you know, like fucking your heart starts falling out of your chest, and then you fast forward through it. You're like, I'm a double dick. And I'm like, not only could I have watched this and donated six months ago. Yeah. Not only did I do nothing, but then because it was hurting my heart, I just had to fast forward.

1:12:44 Yeah, I did nothing again.

1:12:48 Like layers of guilt. And now like, my mind just associates Sarah McLaughlin songs with this, this guilt. And so like, now, now we'll even change the Sarah McLaughlin if it comes on the radio. Like, so it's like now triple guilt. Like I'm even for, for for subverting my own guilt. Oh, you know, I mean, guilt has been a tool of so many institutions over the years.

1:13:15 It's an effective thing. I mean, look at church, whether we're talking Protestants or Catholics, you know, they're it's predicated upon guilt. And I mean, apparently it's an effective tool of the SPCA.

1:13:32 Assuage yourself of guilt by giving us money. I think I think it's probably a big thing that makes the whole commerce system work. I mean, you know, poor people are honest in general and so more honest generally. Yeah. And so. Right. And so then the, you know, these predatory systems like payday loan and, you know, this bullshit sign and drive type thing, you know.

1:13:52 Right. Your job is your credit. Rent to own. And you know, all these fucking schemes all work because the people feel a sense of responsibility to pay back 5,000%, you know, interest rate. Right. Whereas, you know, hey, someone that if someone had full knowledge of the system and how the money is just falling, then they would use debt as a tool and not pay it back.

1:14:16 Yeah. And saying, yeah, fuck off. They scheme it to where, you know, they, they work the system that their advantage somehow, you know like flip the script but the, the whole system is predicated on people being in general honest and, you know, care about honoring their commitments and their work. There's a it's the carrot and stick model to a degree, too, because we're threatened with the stick like your credit.

1:14:41 Yeah. Is at risk. What's your credit? It's a certain point. Yeah. Yeah. Right. It doesn't matter. But then when your credit hits a certain point, your participation in the system is harder. Yeah. Maybe if you still have that side hustle that works. Cash is still king. It doesn't matter what your credit is. You got cash, someone's going to talk to you.

1:14:59 Yes. And my great grandfather. He. That was his his thing. He didn't have any credit, but he would buy everything in cash, and he was insanely cheap. Yeah. Once you have enough cash, someone says, oh, okay, well, I have to pull your credit report. Say, fuck you. You pull your plum, pull your credit report. Right. I don't, you know, dude.

1:15:19 He goes, you have the cash. He would go to the car dealership and he would talk to them about removing every single feature from the car possible. And then he would be like, okay, how much does that cost? Okay. So you want me to give you ten 000 boom here?

1:15:37 Yeah. And then talk about your trading and talk about how your own financing and after they've already. Right. Like, yeah. You've led them to believe that there's no trade in. And you led them to believe that you're going to take their shitty financing. Yeah. Right. And so they've, they've, they've, they've squeezed the deal to where they're giving you a good deal on the car, but they make it all back in the interest and all that.

1:15:58 And then you refinance or you pay off the loan in cash because there's no early repayment penalty two days later and you fuck them over and they don't get their bonuses. Yeah. That's a that's another way of running the scheme. Yeah. I was talking about like when you're working with the actual sales, you know. Right, right. This what I'm saying.

1:16:13 You get them to pare down the deal and it works for them and it works for you. You get all the discounts, but then they end up having to eat the discounts because you either paid it off in cash or refinanced for someone else. Yeah, yeah. And then you could actually deal with the guy who's like, you know, should be called chompers because he's got this massive mouth full of teeth in there, bright white, and he smells like cigarettes, but chewing gum, he's like, chews gum and smokes at the same time, you know, big Red.

1:16:38 He smiles and he's like, got this, like, blinding by the sun. White, bright white, almost bluish white teeth. Oh, God. Right. And and the the deep wrinkles in the face that go along with the smile. Big pie. Smile. Yeah. You know. And just can't not be lured by the guy. And he's like, he's he's too extroverted and funny.

1:17:01 He can zone in on it. Oh, God. Like we were talking about. Yeah, he's he's charisma personified. Yeah. He's just done it so much and for so long. Oh, he's repulsive. But you love him. Yeah. Yeah. And some, for some reason, you want to give him your business, right? Like you will after you buy your first car from this guy.

1:17:20 You buy every car from this guy? Yeah. And each time you feel dirty, but you still go back and you're like. It's like a bad relationship. Yeah. You find out. Like you find out not long after the deal to how how bad you got screwed. But then you still buy your next car. Oh.

1:17:38 Oh, I think I think we've all been there. Yep. Like loyalty. Every time I turned on the TV, I feel that way. Oh, dude, I gotta go. Unfortunately, every time I watch the news. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Oh, man. Well, that was a that that was a good, far ranging conversation, I enjoyed it. I think we did a good job that meandered later.

1:18:01 Later, dude.