Youngsters, Angry Birds & Worm Grunting

0:01 Young people. So, you know, going back in because I have the opportunity to go back and take a few classes and expand my mind and learn something, and I'm doing that I'm now exposed to, like, you know, maybe 18 to 24 year olds, right? A lot more than I would be on a day to day basis. And whilst you're in the midst of middle age, so you you have your perspective on the 18 to 24 year old demographic.

0:29 Yes. To say the least. And, dude, I'm like, I kind of be cynical because, you know, each generation is different and, you know, I get it. It's people are different. It's weighted. But, we're talking about some pretty fucking low energy people here. Really? Yeah. It's a pretty low energy people. And, and and I'm not interested in thinking about things.

0:53 That sucks. And it does not. You know, it's not fair. I can't date all generations, but. No, but I mean, you can definitely speak about the subset you've encountered at USC. Charlotte. Yeah. It's, you know, surprising. Yeah, I'm really surprised. I mean, that's the best way to put it. I'm a bit stunned at how, anti-intellectual people are like, really?

1:16 Yeah. Like how like, is it like the death of the expert whiffs of that, like, oh, you're coming across like you had spent time, you know, learning about this. Fuck you. Yeah. And and, just, really overwhelming majority, I would say fairly say 95%. Right. Just want to find out what they need to do and get out of there.

1:38 So really, it's it's, task oriented shit. Learn the minimum. Do the minimum. Yeah, totally. And, you know, every time I've been to school, I've. And, most of them, some classes have received it. This is stupid, like, you know, right. I just need to take this art history class just to get away. That I get that so that I become a T-shaped individual.

2:01 Yeah. And so. But across the board, I see, like, no real enthusiasm for any of this subject matter. Like, it's just I want to get back to my video game or I want to get back to whatever it is I'm hung up on, you know? Yeah. And I can see, like, all the signs and symptoms of video game addiction and, you know, like, terribly social media addiction, whatever it may be.

2:21 Right. You know, I see it. You can smell the stench of it on someone, like, yeah, you don't necessarily know what they're addicted to, but you can tell they're addicted to something. Yeah, you can tell if you feel that sentiment that all they want to do is just get out of there and get back to what they do.

2:34 Something. Right? Right. Yeah. And that's a that's a shame because that that something is going to be there. You know, forever. Yeah. Like I like it's there for you. It's waiting for you all the time. It's it's just going to amplify it. It's never going to go away. But it's like yeah, it's it's real compulsion that you feel you get this sentiment that like, all these young people are just looking to get out of there as fast as possible and get their fix.

2:59 You get maybe that's what it is. Get back to whatever it is. You know, they they find value true. And what they find value in is not learning, not increasing their skills, not being engaged in this at all is what you're saying, pretty much. And then I've had a couple sidebars, you know, conversations on the side. And some of these kids, I would call them kids and shit.

3:26 I mean, they saw some of these younger people and, I am able to get their get their spike in their kind of enthusiasm. Yeah. Not that I'm anything special, but I'm, like, talking about things that. But you can jazz them up. You can engage with some extent. Yes. And, the curriculum in general is boring as fuck.

3:47 Right. And so they're they're taking this approach to it and I can feel some of their pain. The busywork, like writing papers these days. You know, you have all these websites that just fucking write paper for you. You know, you just say, write a paper on this. Really? Yeah. Jesus. That's cool. Or you can take a preexisting paper and drop it into an anti plagiarism.

4:06 Just modified the shit out of it. Acts, modifies it. There you go. And I have a unique paper. Yeah. So I'm sure these aren't as sophisticated as, like, based on these language learning models and all this shit. It's probably just like the mechanistic programing that changes this and that. And it's pretty sophisticated. Is it okay. Yeah. And then then you can take that same paper that.

4:26 Okay. So you just plagiarized every rabbit, find a paper online. There's gazillion papers online on whatever topic. Yeah. So you take the paper, you drop it into one of these tools online and it really changes. The language changes the word, changes the tone. Okay. You know, uses a bunch of synonyms. Change, right. Change the sentence structure verb, use all that kind of stuff.

4:46 They'll even sophisticated enough to change whole paragraph structure. He's getting really good. That's awesome. Then you can take the output from that. I love to see the natural language processing stuff on it. Yeah, that would be fun. And, what it does from there is you can then go to drop it into anti plagiarism filter online. Yeah. Another way like you take the output from that, put it into an anti plagiarism thing and it gives you a thumbs up.

5:08 Like this is a unique paper okay. Yeah. The same tools that the professors use right. Turn it in and all that stuff. Sure. And so what we should be doing I think is instead of right papers, we should be talking about how that technology exists and works. Right. So like let's face it, if that that's really possible. People are going to find ways to just not do that busy work of the paper.

5:32 Right. So why don't we pivot more. You're saying to hands on why don't we pivot more to doing instead of all this bullshit that really just I feel like in these papers or at or the facts of a bygone age, right? Yeah. Right. I mean, really, what it is now is learn by doing makes way more sense to most people than it used to.

5:58 Wait. Definitely 100% the busy work of, you know, getting an education is just that. You just paid a bunch of money to get busy work. No, that's not what I want. I want the expertise of the instructor. And I also do not want a canned reference to some, you know, material that's already online that somebody else created exactly, exactly what?

6:22 A teacher or a professor giving you a video of another teacher teaching something is outrageous, like you pay top dollar to have, you know, pay big money to have somebody actually instruct you. Yeah. Not to have some sort of interim intermediary, intercede on my behalf like a the priesthood giving me an entree unto this knowledge instead of me.

6:45 I'm sorry. No, no, no, it's nice spot on. And, you know, that's that's the referential thing. You should just be, you know, take the test. It's really you just come down to, like, take the test, pay your money, take the test to get this. Well, it's like that in front of the university. Okay. They're standing room only in their classes.

7:05 Right. And say you attend three lectures and you're like, you know what? I could pass this test. You fucking take it and you pass it. You get the you you don't pay for the class. There you go. You know, in their standing room only because you can attend without paying for the class. And you know, just take the test.

7:29 Yeah I want to, I wanted to make and I still do want to make some day, I want to make a tool for education where it's like read it in the best lessons and lectures, bubble up, bubble up. Yeah. So an open educational resource that does ranking. Yes. And so like the students themselves can watch series of videos and then rank them, you know, say which one works for them.

7:48 That's actually they learn the best. I like that because you know that there's a teacher out there in fucking Wichita teaching slope intercept form like a god. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it's more than happy to cast that video to force multiply their credible teaching ability. And not only that, but if there's a platform where there's a clear link between them casting it out there and making supplemental income.

8:13 Yeah. That's that would be that would be fine. If the system itself would be subsidized, could inevitably be subsidized because, you know, the government has a, has an obligation to educate. Yeah. And if you take that to the government funding stream. Yeah. Totally viable, you know, that you get paid. But you know, you don't want to have a bunch of children sit there and watch, have to watch.

8:35 It doesn't that's, you know, to get there. No, no. You gotta be able to do that when I link it to either, a well-funded nonprofit like Khan Academy or you want to link it to the government funding stream, like you said. And the thing is, all right, there are a few languages that basically cover much of the Earth, right?

9:01 I mean, what do we got? Mandarin Chinese for? One. French for two. Yeah. Spanish and English. That covers what most of it. Yeah. The talk of the years of colonizing really did help spread those, like. Right, right. White Europeans for the win. So, English is coming up as the dominant, you know, more and more dominant.

9:30 Yeah. It does. And, you know, so there's not one single local franca across the world, but there's a handful which would cover the Balkan. And so if you make a platform that does actually cater to the cultural peculiarities of each of these major languages and the attendant shared culture that comes with them, then, you know, maybe you can have these things bubble on.

10:01 There you go. Yeah. I mean, we need something like this because the attention span of these younger people is like fucking. Now I'm telling it like, really, it's it's it's been it's been ravaged. The attention span has been decimated. That's, reading comprehension is now I'm, you know, just my own is in tatters compared to what it used to be.

10:23 I don't know if yours is, but my attention span is not as great as it was. Totally is I. Whatever was, when I was a kid, I could spend hours on one thing. Oh, my God. Yes. I mean, I can go outside and play, right? House or. No, but you could. It's a fucking 12 year old. Right?

10:41 And I remember even, you know, getting assigned, reading like, books and reading it all in one day. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, I can totally get that. There's no way I can do that now. Yeah. I mean, I would be like, you know, I'd start reading at 6 or 7:00 at night and, you know, be reading until 12 or 1 in the morning, you know, or I would be I would always carry a book with me in the car and I'd be reading all the damn time.

11:07 Yeah, yeah. I'm smart enough to tamp down the distractions. Like, you know, what's with the phone on vibrate or put the phone on silent, that kind of thing. You know, make a vow to keep the TV off. Make sure I get some drink, something to drink. So I'm not popping up for, you know. Right. All these stupid things.

11:22 Yeah. I can sit down and still get into something, but I have a little bit of a different circumstance now with children in life, you know? Yeah. You've got all these externalities so that, that, that, that increases it. But if you then overlap that even more with technology induced ADHD, you know, you're going to struggle even more. So it's like nobody, you know, is immune to the symptoms of ADHD when you have this technological world thingy bleeping flopping, you know.

11:50 Yeah, beeping all over the place, even if it wasn't designed for advise for our attention. Absolutely. Because attention is the modern world's most scarce resource. It's the currency. It's the currency. Yes. They're you know, and so the you know, I've started to talk to some of these people around me about this topic. You know, without this. Exactly. I've even said, you know, what's going on and why is it why is everyone so disassociated, like everybody, you know, like everyone's afraid to talk.

12:18 You can tell. Well, when most people talk, they're you can tell they're nervous. Yeah. Why are you nervous? To talk about, you know, talk about something. You know, about how are you? Nervous. Really? Yeah. Really afraid to, put themselves out there and take a risk on being wrong. You know? And, it's like there's no very few extroverted people.

12:39 I've noticed that, like, nobody's really introverted. A lot about. Gosh, I guess it's almost three years ago now is dating this girl. And she was younger. She was 22 and but she was completely different than all the other people her age that I had met. She was largely extroverted. She was largely into thinking, into poetry, into exploring a world, you know, like she was going to go acquire some more knowledge about some shit.

13:14 Yeah. You know. Yeah. And it was refreshing. And it's like, you know, it came down to ultimately, I didn't like her. I liked the fact that she was doing these things and other people weren't. But it was just it was so crazy. Once I realized that, it's like I was almost in a social and intellectual desert at the time.

13:37 Yeah, because so few people are trying to do those things. Yeah. And so few conversations do. I kind of want you cracking up a little bit and, you know, they kind of get who you are. So for me, I'm like putting myself out there as like, you know, friendly and respectful and all this kind of stuff because that's who I am anyway.

13:56 But yeah, you know, I knowing that they're more introverted and kind of a little bit fragile, you have to build that bridge. You have to have an onramp towards these things. And I noticed that, like, you kind of have to early on kind of complement their abilities. Oh, right. To like so stroking ego to open them up.

14:16 Yeah. And then once you do that you start to talk about a couple things that are seemingly interesting. Then you can get some enthusiasm towards a conversation. But still in general, it's like really quick to see them revert back to their that kind of shallow and quiet and solemn and just right. You basically got to be somebody's hype man for a while, kind of yeah, yeah, that's the only way to draw enough attention to even, you know, have any kind of semblance of a conversation.

14:43 Yeah. I mean, the same thing, even just a few years ago, whenever I was still in school. Gosh, I guess that would be like eight years ago now. Well, maybe a little less like 6 or 7, but, yeah, same thing did that was the most effective way was purely hype, you know, and then connect. Yeah, yeah.

15:07 And that's, you know, that's a shame because, you know, there's I see a lot of value. I see these people as, having a lot of latent intelligence. You know, they grew up with all these technology tools, and these things have really definitely served them well as far as increasing their intelligence in a lot. But they haven't taken the time to go through those things and make connections.

15:28 Yeah. And that's that can just come with experience as well. You know, it used to be a lack of experience. Yeah, certain things. But the physical classic analog kind of, you know, conversation with another human being type thing is very, practiced, you know, and you can tell many of them did not have a lot of opportunities for skill in conversations, you know, up and down different, age groups and different backgrounds.

15:54 That's a great way to put it. It really is scaling it up, scaling it down, you know, really thinking about vocabulary and approach. And it's it is a skill. It's changing the tone, changing the energy, changing all of it. And you've got so many things during a conversation that you're managing. You're almost like shoving energy up and down.

16:16 I mean, it's it's crazy, And these people don't know how to do it. Yeah. The group projects and stuff that you working on, you could tell that during the meeting, the person is not paying attention at all. And they're playing a game or something like they have their thing on you and they have just their portrait than on their video up.

16:33 Right. And you could tell that they're trying to like, come in and just interject a few sentences. They've learned this process, like a lot of this is probably coming up through high school and having the virtual learning and all that kind of crap through, you know, they've learned these little, little skills to make it look like they're, they're they're they're I'm giving you my attention.

16:51 Right. But you can like just with a little bit of intuition, you can tell that they're completely doing something else, like they're they're not really there and they're just letting you do the work. And so, you know, it's awful. And then but they're there. And so they've learned to be able to check that wall. And I've noticed something, talking to some kids, I really cheating has been made.

17:13 Okay. Well, that's what you're going to do when you have your, you know, job as programing there be copy and paste and off the internet. Yeah. You know, yes you absolutely are. You're going to you're going to reuse. You're going to copypasta is the word of the day. But. But when you're first learning a concept, when you're first ingesting those first principles.

17:37 Right. And you undercut yourself when you cheat because you don't learn it. Yes you do, but at the same time, let's be honest, okay. So let's teach. Let's teach like let's go through it, tape out that function, that algorithm, whatever that class. Learn how to do that, learn the structure, learn the syntax. Because you have to and that practice syntax and semantics.

17:56 If you don't you like to do your. But yeah you have to you have to learn and that's and so do some of the drudgery of going through and taking that out. But then when it comes to everything else, let's do it the way it's really done, you know, how do you how do you go about doing that.

18:08 Oh, it's Stack overflow. Yeah. Stack overflow codes more of the world than for programmers. Damn right. Right. I mean, between Stack Overflow and, what's that other one that's server winging it. That's in the same family. You know, those two do my job. Yeah. I mean, it's it's like, sad to admit that, but it is the reality.

18:30 And so teaching should, should then overlap that. Right. You should you should be like, okay, here's how you use these tools to, you know, get your basis at least in how to do this. Okay. So you cut and paste this, this, this chunk of code, but then you're modifying it fit the, you know, yes. Your personal needs, and the function for the software that you're building, that's how you go about doing that.

18:51 Right. And then, yeah, it's it is it does need to shift to okay. Be aware of your resources. Be aware of how to use them. And I guess you're right. Maybe we soften the the traditional idea of cheating because it doesn't apply. Absolutely. 100% does not apply. And the machine will do the same thing like so the, the the computer.

19:13 But does it apply in history class more so still the same way it used to I don't know. We should probably talk a little bit about history really. Puzzles. So this, this thing where I, this guy that would always put on Fox News. I gotta finish telling you that story because you get pretty epic and worth telling.

19:35 Okay. So John and I decided to, you know, beat him at his own game. He, he would make it a point. He'd see us come back with coffee from the break room or whatever, and he'd, like, pretend to go to the bathroom just to go back into the break room and turn it back to Fox News. And so, like, he was so such a such a, so it, Fox News that he literally, I think, you know, the impression that I got, like, my intuition said that he was legitimately like, vigilante wanting to spread the truth to everybody.

20:08 Yeah, yeah, like a Tibetan monk needing to spread the truth. And people. Right. And so without any that, without, like, you know, a vote or a consensus or, you know, maybe like scheduling it to where, you know, through this time the Weather Channel will be on through this time. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. No no no, it was Fox News.

20:28 Fox News only Fox News. All right. Like so he was just so is the best word. Yeah. Right. Almost cult like, obsession with making sure that it was on it all the time. The truth was being disseminated to the masses. So you know, because that worldview that Fox News puts forward is the it's the right. And that's what it is.

20:51 It's a narrative. It's a worldview, it's a philosophy. It's not necessarily grounded in fact. It's carefully grooming an approach. It's carefully grooming a way of looking at things, a way of filtering and processing information. What the fuck? Yeah. And now I would I would go on to say it's like, I bet over the course of all those years, it probably did have some kind of an effect on the people that always had that kind of in the background.

21:18 But yeah, I don't see how it doesn't have the same effect on the people who work there. Yeah. So so he would actually, when he was in there taking his break many times, he was actually like.

21:31 Engaged and focused watching like, wow, he'd be watching the program, like in a focused kind of way or. Yeah, like you can tell he was engaged with the content. Yeah. You know, it wasn't just as passive thing in the background while you get your coffee, you know, joke, joke around with somebody at the watercooler dedicated to that was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

21:50 And so this is he was battling at the altar of Fox News. Yeah. And we found out later that this guy legitimately was part of a militia group that trains out in the woods and that is, you know, firearm, you know, gets I know it's not true, but that's how I imagine the average Fox News watcher. Okay.

22:10 Yeah. And so, yeah. So so we decided that it'd be funny to, make sure that CNN was the news network that was on all the time. And so we had the power of the majority, like, you know, so I could go in there and for Fox News, I mean, put on CNN. And then John was just two versus one, basically, which is when you, you couple of the people who drug into a fight as well.

22:31 Okay. And it start to really, you know, annoy him. You know what it really did, what it really did was kind of cause him to double or triple down on his efforts, really know because, like, he saw it as, like, those liberals are trying to. Yeah. They're trying to erode. And then you're trying to assert their, point of view on everybody because of course, he wasn't there.

22:54 He was. Yeah. He was just letting the truth be heard. Yeah, but everyone else was trying to assert their worldview on everybody else. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. No, I thought that one. That one is for sure. Yeah. And so, I had found online this little device, I found out the, carrier, I found out what the, remote was.

23:15 I found the frequency, the remote. I looked it up and just a little digging, and I found this little, watch, battery powered, component, like, it's a tiny little breadboard and some chips. Yeah, that you can program to, at a certain interval, automatically change a channel to a certain channel. Oh, neat. Right. It would send the little beam a little bit or a little bit.

23:37 And then I guess it would do it for a bunch of different brands or just. Yeah. And it had some switches on there. We can tell it this range of frequencies. Oh yeah. So far. So yeah. So I bought this thing that it had came in pieces. You had to actually like solder it together yourself. Okay. Yeah.

23:55 With the diagram I kind of solder in. Well I could solder like a basic thing, but I'm not like really good with soldering. There's this other dude in the office. He was, this, ham radio guy. Oh, yeah. The skills. Yeah. He had to really have the skills. There's this one chip that was, like, required. Really, really, really fine pitch.

24:15 Oh, yeah. And so he totally took the challenge, and he's like, that's awesome. You guys are so funny for doing this. Yeah. Let him in on the scheme of what it was. Yeah. And he's like, you guys are just out of control. You're awesome. I'm happy to help you. Right. Yeah, yeah. Let my skills to do it.

24:33 The funny thing is, old crusty, do they never expect to be such a cool like you expect them to be crotchety? No, no, but he was cool. Guy was so freaking cool, right? Like, totally down with screwing with this guy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I mean, it makes sense. Ham radio guys, they're the old school hackers. They're the counterculture.

24:55 Almost. They, they help further some of the technology that's the underpinnings of, communications today, no doubt about it. And, the personality to go along with it. Right, right. So when he comes back, like, secretly, like a drug dealer comes up like, I can't beat this thing. And he talks about how difficult it was to solder the fine things in there.

25:19 So, yeah, you know, I was like, dude, let me show. Let me get some cash and let's, let's get some real time because it was like a beautiful job, you know? Nice. All the soldering is perfect. And he's like, no way. Like this. It's payment enough that we're doing this. Yeah, yeah, right. Just just feeling just him feeling a part of it was like.

25:39 It's like. Yeah. So, we're all getting excited about it, so we have to actually wait until, like, after hours, because we gotta put this thing somewhere where it's not detectable. We just put it up on top of it. Yeah. You got to, like, rig it into the drop ceiling somehow. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Funny that you said that, like, were doing right where there's this little gap in a light fixture.

26:01 No, it was nearly impossible. Oh, that is so cool. Great hiding spot. And so we one day after hours stand up like I got a chair, you know, like, up on a table. So I'm, like, up on the table, up on the chair, fiddling around in the thing. And, you know, basically John's like playing look out, you know, like it's like spies.

26:22 Like spies are us type of, you know, pawns in this big ritual to get this thing done. And so we had to make a decision on how long to set the timer, because if this thing is like changing the channel to seeing that every minute, it's not going to work out. No. Like he's going to get wind of it probably, you know, call security and tear the place.

26:44 But if it's more organic. Yeah. If it's like once every 30 minutes or. Yeah right. He's to somebody could have feasibly walked in there Jane. Yeah exactly. And then do we put it on. Do we, do we allow the signal to like have gaps to where like over lunch time. It doesn't do that because. Right. If everyone's sitting there and all of a sudden sees the channel and so was this thing that fine grained control unfortunately does.

27:07 So they had to decide on some time. So 30 minutes was the let's go to okay. And so put the device in place and sure enough is how it worked. Like a charm. Every 30 minutes boom station will change like CNN. See that was playing it all of a sudden the majority of the time, right by a lot with no effort from you guys over there.

27:29 The proper application of technology, right. Passively happening. Yeah. So the little computer machine was doing the work a little like of device was doing. All right. And really that's I guess that's where I keep coming back to, you know, you keep talking about the capabilities of AI, but I keep thinking about really the capabilities we were talking about earlier of programmers and programing languages and speaking to a computer.

27:52 That's the level we're still on. You're still on the mechanistic mechanical Turk level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, so your Mechanical Turk did a job after 30 minutes, like a charm. And this is like building now. Serious. I don't want to call it anger, but.

28:14 I mean, there's probably no other word to describe it. There's an unabated rage. He has no idea how we're so diligent about every 30 minutes making sure the steps up literally. He's like, I just changed it, went back in there. Nobody was in there. And somehow they slipped in there. You know, changes like these are going through his mind.

28:33 The drop that was played on this thing. So really you're just increased his daily level of paranoia by like a factor of five. All right. Like the liberal invasion is now upon us. It's time to. It's time to get by that ammo. Yeah, yeah. He's like, well, I was thinking about buying 2000 more rounds. Make it 4000. Yeah, right.

28:57 Because that's how they're gonna that's how they're going to get the guns are going to crack down on the ammo. Right. So yeah. So I'm glad I bought that, that, bullet press to make my own bullets. Oh, Jesus. So, so anyway, think to keep the story behind is, you know, he's speaking out. Something's going on, right?

29:18 There's no way possible that we can have a job and do all that and keep changing it. That there has to be a conspiracy. Like there has to be 50 people in on it. Like these are offense against me. Yes. Which, I mean, I guess depending on the, the strength of his mind, his mental fortitude, he may have thought that, and so we're all in there one time, like for lunch or something.

29:45 That's that was the reason was we're all in there and he's got the remote in hand and it changes. Yeah. It changes. So the jig is up and we see him and he looks right at us immediately. As soon as it happened, like, as if we had our own remote control. Right. Like if you like in your pocket.

30:02 Yeah, yeah. It's head like his head did. Like like one of those. Dude, it would have been so funny if you were like, this. Is. That was your response? His head stepped over, like, probably. Yeah. Yeah, right. Both fucking swivel right there. You can hear the sound of that. You know. Yeah. We just looked at him like what?

30:25 You know, like what? We're not doing it. We're we're. What's your problem? Look at that weirdo. Right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So he's like, you can tell his brain is like, diggy diggy diggy diggy diggy diggy. It's like he's thinking about how the after that just change, right, right. And so. And he has no feedback or input from you guys.

30:46 Right. We just curious you know he looks back at the scene or whatever. We're like oh my god laughing like but but not yeah. Not letting it be known that we're laughing. Yeah right. Right. We're like ripped up inside laughing so bad. So he's so fucking pissed about this. And so, like I my mission, my life, duty like my, my duty and responsibility is to figure out what the f is going on here.

31:15 So unmitigated, unregulated rage being channeled into figuring this out. Yeah. So this is like, focused. This is like Anakin. Yeah. When he first came the focus from the dark side. Yeah, yeah. It's about you go kill some younglings. You know, so he calls in all these, it people, the security, whatever the fuck, dude, he really mobilizes.

31:38 Oh, he works like he's mobilizing. He's. He's calling up the Charter Spectrum. Whoever the carrier was at the time and being like, is there a feature that allows you to change the channel to, you know, and they're walking him through it. He's like on speaker phone. And but a lot of people at the break room at this point because the lunch hour.

31:54 Oh, he jumped on this immediately. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's going to figure out why this, this, you know why why Fox News, you know, it's been has been censored. It's outrageous. And, so he's got spectrum charter, whatever. People on the phone. Yeah, sure. And, they're telling him, yeah, there's a default. There's a way to make a default channel.

32:13 Whoa. I don't think because there was a sophisticated way to make the all channel that's interesting. Like when you first this, like a kiosk mode for the TV. Kind of. It's like when you first turn it on, what channel does it go to? Yeah. Okay. Same thing. Okay. Or then like have a timer after a certain amount of timer I forgot all the features.

32:30 But he's like going through the feature menu now. Like because he's. And none of this is enabled. Yeah. None of it's enabled. So he's just really confused and we're still sitting there. All right. And then this is enough time to where it did it again for change back. Yeah. And we're like, oh shit. You know, fuck the gig is up.

32:49 And so we completely ignored that. Quickly walked out of the room after that. Right. It's just like go. He had to go by us to get back to his desk. And so we were like stood there waiting for him to come by. And he was not coming back. He was like he was he was there for he was there like for at least an hour, right?

33:06 Like trying to figure out why in the hell. So during the course of him being there, had to have done it at least once or twice more. Right? And so we're like, fuck, he's going to know. Now it's getting like 3 or 4:00. It's getting, you know, kind of like the end of the day is going to come.

33:18 And the guy obviously has a job. So he temporarily gave up on it. But you can tell that he was like, I'm a goddamn mission. He's like, consider setting different testing for me. I will figure this thing out. And so he stays after work to work on the problem. Right. Wow. And so we stay after because we have a project to do.

33:38 What about. And, we're basically like, we're going to wait him out. Okay. Tonight we're going to we're going to be here. We're going to be here after he leave. Oh really? Something came up. He had to go. He left. And so what we did was we went out, we went back into the room and we removed the device because like, you know, the jig is up.

33:56 Like he's going to start looking for a device like that's going to be all right. It's going to dawn on right to remove it. And I throw it in my desk and we wait for like a week or so, you know, like so he's back in the groove. Fox news is again the beacon of truth. Yeah. And it is shining forth.

34:13 All who are within his sphere of influence are consuming it. That's right. And all these people now are around, you know, winding up their their minds are not being corrupted anymore. Right? Right. This, this beacon of truth is shining through the fog. It is allowing them to live a better and more fulfilled life. Exactly. And so we decide it's time to, you know, put the device back in.

34:38 Yeah. Okay. Right, right. Yeah. You need to do something with your life. You. Right? Right. This is a valid values of time. It absolutely. So I mean, trolling is always a valid use of time. So we put it back. We were very patient. We didn't have the time to, to camouflage this thoroughly. You didn't want to put it in the same spot.

35:02 Just in case. So I made the terrible mistake. Just put it on top of the, for captain. Right. So, anyway, long story short, I think you know, what's happens next is that he discovers the Charles mistake that you see that and blows a fucking gasket this time. And, Yeah, like, let's pierce. Okay. That now that that was not just maybe anger is fucking anger.

35:28 And, finds the device. Blames us for denial. Yeah, he wants to get it for the forensic analysis. Oh, my God, really? He wants to figure out where that came from and who did they look for? Our fingerprint. They want to. You want security to run through security tension? Security guy. That's my friend. And he knows exactly what's going on.

35:47 Oh, you already don't do. Oh, yeah. There's like 50 people, you know. So everyone knew but him, right. And it's crazy that everybody, you know, did so thoroughly against. And they need to catch up with. Oh yeah. They all it's it's like, strong arming everybody into it. Nobody likes that you know. So. Oh which again put the fire under me for, you know, continuing this even after the device was discovered, the device was recovered, confiscated.

36:19 I didn't know what the hell he did with it. Doesn't matter. We sure. $5. You destroyed it? Yeah. Probably destroyed it ritualistically. Had it a target, you know, like, taped it to a mole. You probably called all his buddies over. They made some homemade tannerite. They blew the damn thing to smithereens. They put it in the mouth of a pig head and shot the.

36:44 The these, events just to symbolize the Yankee pig dogs that have, Banned Fox News from my workplace. And then they put enough firepower into destroying it. To where? Like, it actually disturbs some people that live, like, over a mile away or, like, you know, they created the actual event. Oh, so world of that resulted from your trolling.

37:11 Yeah. So. All right, motherfucker, I got you. All right, I got this. I got this bastard at this point, you know, I'm kind of mad, right? Yeah. Because just it was good natured ribbing, and he got it somewhere else, right? He's got a strong arm. He's got to throw anger, true emotion at it. So I'm like, okay, no, no, I'm in this to win it.

37:32 Fuck you. Parental controls. Bam! The next day. Oh shit. The TV will not come on like, I mean, parental control is like full on the only channel that will play saying it. That's awesome. Fox news has been, like, excluded. Like, you know, blocked completely. Like he can't even watch Nickelodeon during his break. He's watching. Only thing you're watching is seeing that area, hook, line and sinker done right.

37:56 And he comes in the room, sees Fox News on CNN, tries to change the Fox News thing for lock downs, asking for a code. He loses his, he's calling. He already calls security. He lost his shit, so he just fucking. I mean, we thought he had blown his stack before, but you goes to another level.

38:19 Yep. And so? So he's just foaming at the mouth. He's, he's nearly bringing himself into seizures. He's, you know. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, he's foaming at the mouth. That's the best way to say it. And, they have to bring a technician out to, like, chain to unlock the whole device because, you know, the controls work for a reason.

38:41 It's not just like a simple hold down the reset button, like, oh, there's a procedure. Yeah, it's a procedure. And so, they go through it and the company, like, has to pay a fucking for a service call, right. And I'm in this game now, full on. And now people are down. Money's involved. So like the upper management starts to get involved with what's going on, right?

39:02 Right. They feel like they have to do something about it because there's no that way of cash. Now. Yeah, there's money involved. So now. Oh now we got a. Yeah now we got it's a problem. Yeah. So whatever it was 100 bucks or for the service call I don't know what it cost the company, but it was the wrong thing to do.

39:18 But, you know, hey, was the right thing to do. Yeah. You know, did it come back here? Well, no. No, they people start asking a whole bunch of questions. You know who did that? What's what's going on, you know. Do you know anything about this? Of course, 100%. No. Right, Tom? And nobody does. Tom's like Tom's always the one fucking on TV or when I was there.

39:38 So nobody dimed you out. That's good. Well, no, I know it was me, right. But, you know, somebody could have eventually said, whoa, this did happen, right? Oh, yeah. Nobody timed out as fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, nobody timed out the other thing. Yeah. Because if they had done about the other thing, they would have made a fair assumption from there.

39:56 Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Oh yeah. Nobody, nobody put those two things together. But even if they did, it's still say, yeah, that was just a game. I don't know what's going on with the parental controls actually. Yeah. Yeah. Why would I do that and say yeah. Right. And so, I'm not losing this fight. Right. Like at this point, at this point, it's like it's not just personal, it's ideological.

40:21 You know, it's it's everything. It's morality, ideology, philosophy. It's everything culminating in one now in my in my brain, it's like, oh man again. Skywalker. Right. Like.

40:33 Right. Like I'm gonna get Skywalker with his legs off. You know, for Kenobi, just just oh, I'm like, raging and screaming inside. And I'm like, I'm going to. I'm going to win this fucking down like that. This is my this is my fight to win them. Right? Chase. And so my next step was a formal complaint to HR about the, Fox News.

40:55 Yeah. And I mean, I'm talking like a huge research backed essay that I wrote about Fox News playing in the break room 24 seven. I was like, it's absolutely unfair and inappropriate for, you know, this known propaganda, you know, to be fair for people, you know, people to be changing it 100% to this channel and not allowing any other channel to play.

41:23 And so I went, I went the whole like, holy shit, shit house layer, you know, snively little, you know, dick head rule. Sure. And 100% got my way. Really? The TV was been put on a schedule and Fox News is only allowed for a very short period of time. But it was allowed to be fair. There was a lot of to be fair.

41:43 So I did the diplomatic channel that I, that I hate, you know, like you use your ability to communicate effectively and speak in a very corporatized, air friendly way to get your way, which, yeah, sure, it's to be hated, but it's a skill to flex when you need to. Oh, I still hate myself for it to this day, but I mean, dude, you know, but but it squashed it.

42:13 It did. It had the effect that I was going for and. Yeah, that guy's, internal hatred was like, pretty insane. After that. Like, that was that was a serious, serious blow to his, his world. Right? Right. He thought he was the you. He thought he was the arbiter of truth. Yes. And that and taking that away from him was like something really of value in his life.

42:38 Because I'm really in a I don't know how Fox News does it, but clearly they insinuate themselves into the identity of their watchers that yes, they really shape the not only just the worldview, but who these people become. Yes. And I just don't get it. How do you have such unswerving loyalty to an information source? I've never been this way about anything.

43:10 Yeah, I'd have to look into more to really understand. I mean, even liberal was on drugs to the hilt, you know, it's like I didn't swear fealty to the drugs, you know, it was like, well, I like them. I really enjoy them. Sure. But, you know, hey, I can I've decided that I want to do other things.

43:33 Let me do that. So I think I'm still I think I'm still at LinkedIn and Facebook. Twitter. This guy, I wonder if I should ever feel refreshed. I wonder if I should just send him a message someday and be like, you know what? I'm the one that did that. Oh. Oh. Now that wouldn't be work, because I know what the next step would be, and he would just completely unfriend me and all that.

43:54 Yeah, yeah, that that I. And what if you ended up accidentally working with him or something? No. That that's. I'm awesome. Yeah, that's not possible. But you know, why burn a bridge. Yeah. Even though it might feel good, kind of. It's funny. It's, I'm pretty forgiving person in general, but I'm not a forgetful person. Yeah, it's like you might forgive, but you will remember.

44:25 And I feel like you do yourself a disservice if you forget with the forgiveness. Because if you remember, then it will. It's part of your protection mechanism to ensure that it never happens again. Yeah, I'm kind of like elephant. Never forget when it comes to those people that have burned. Oh, same slights I will remember until the end of time.

44:43 And unfortunately, it's, how I remember it to an unhealthy level. I wonder how common that is. I'm not sure. So, you know, even even family members that in flight in mad. Yeah. Oh. Say. Yeah. Yeah. Ever said, not a blood thicker than water kind of person. No no no no. I unfortunately will remember to the end of time if you've messed with me or I felt slighted, even if it was wholly manufactured in my own mind.

45:14 But that's another story, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm saying I've realized over the years that some of them I. I created, you know, but yet I still carry the torch. Yeah. So, so I have to be honest and think about how trivial and how, like, horrible that was for me as an employee and spent so much time and energy on, you know, such nonsense, right?

45:41 Because at this point in my life and and kind of back then to you, but at this point in my life, for sure, like I give less than a thought was on TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But for some reason, like this really engaged you. It really did. After you get sucked up into this first world problem. Yeah. Well, yeah.

46:01 This, this, this, this, dumb corporate warfare, passive aggressive and all this, you know, it's just all it's so dumb. And. Yeah, I'm a little bit above and beyond that at this point in my life, but I don't know, am I right for it in the same situation, what I've done, I do it again. Probably. But I feel like you do it.

46:20 At the very least, you do it with more skill and panache. Totally. What? I wouldn't leave the device up on top of the cabinet. I'd have like, would be like, I'd make a hole in the side of, like, the coffee counter, right? Like a false bottom in the coffee jam. Yeah.

46:38 This this bottle or this, container of GFG from 1970 would just stay there. And it'd have to be like, I find a particular brand of coffee that I have, and I have it for the dog. The eyes. And so little anode sticking out. Ooh. Like, perfectly, you know? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. The little nipple sticking out with the air emitters.

47:05 Yeah. Perfectly hidden. Yeah. And it's got like, you know, load balancing and, you know, it's got dampeners. Redundant systems like 3D printed 20 parts. So, so like, the cam doesn't even have a weight distribution issue.

47:23 Then you productize this shit, start selling it. Yeah, plenty of you. I want to spy on that. Spy on their wife. Who thinks she drinks coffee? Like or likes Jif peanut butter? Yeah, exactly. Okay. Or any other products that's got a nine. Yeah. Oh. IPhones. Yeah. No, I it doesn't have that little dot. It doesn't. Damn it.

47:48 That's a funny anything like, you know, I can even, I can even, like, sophisticate my brand and go for products that have O's in them. And the center of the. Oh.

48:00 You're like, you're studying typefaces and kerning and figuring out all these different things. Yeah. You can become a product design expert just because I want to change a fucking TV channel. It's like, you know, it's like you go into industrial design quite by accident, out of revenge. Yeah. It was a four year degree, followed up by a, you know, another two years of Masters and then six for my FoxNews is never on the front page.

48:32 In fact, I found a way to like remote control thousands of TV. Like, yeah, every time I drive through neighborhood, every TV goes off of Fox. You're doing this at scale? Yeah. And I'm like, working on how I can hacking into people's smartphones. Like, you know, it's got the cat video app that every time you turn the cat video up on that video app on, it changes your channel for five minutes.

48:55 Oh, that's so funny.

49:01 It's like you've figured out the, the EMF emitted by different smartphone models. You've attenuated them in such a way that it gets filtered and turns into this air signal somehow. Yeah. And it's as soon as a meow is heard by your phone, by it sends out the beacon change developer vacuum. And then somehow, like, in the, in the AI ether of, of the modern, you know, industrial world, Fox news drops all their cat, ad advertising stuff because they come up with some weird correlation between the two.

49:37 The AI figures out there's something to do with cat meowing and, yeah, in fact, like me, I have no idea. But I figured it out somehow made the correlation. And then they end up with less the way less problems. And you have to kick in on something else. Yeah, just my pillow. Oh, but one syllable uttered by Mike Lindell.

49:58 Switches you from Fox News just yet. Or just anytime the name Trump is anytime Trump. The word Trump has spoken. I mean that would just be two hours. It would be I think left I think left and then they say left with tired live Jared. That would be to live tired. Yeah. Changes. Yeah. What. Oh. It's the Chinese.

50:25 I know it's the Chinese. Yep, yep. It's like. And that's it. The meow was a dog was a we cook cat's meow. Change away. So what's funny about you Facebook. You know, I sent you that article about Facebook getting taken down a notch because TikTok has taken a lot of video like that, and their value dropped 25% the other day.

50:45 So so they're, you know, the attention span of people is being pulled by these different apps. And remember, we talked about it extensively now that that's that's the that's the money is the mindshare. I mean the time on the time you spend on the app is the is the money. That's the holy grail. Yes, yes. It's all about focus and attention.

51:02 Yeah. How can we steal it. Right. And so just by drawing the attention away from something else and ironically, this the Chinese TikTok is a Chinese owned right. Yeah. And all that. So which is why the Trump tards were against it. Yeah. And so if Zuckerberg played by the rules and help Trump get reelected, the TikTok would be banned, right now.

51:20 Yeah. Yeah. Right. We and, it's pretty obvious. I'm sure Zuckerberg thought about it, but he's kicking himself now. Yeah. I mean, you know, and, meta has, he he had a video Zuckerberg the other day where he was tearfully, intimating Facebook's transition to video to compete with TikTok and such. And he was like, we're going to do this.

51:48 I'm like, fuck you and die, please. Oh, so you don't like the platform? I think, Oh, no, it's my favorite. No. Yeah. Well, so, you know, social media, there's if you get enough vulnerability, like, once the business model of, like, just hooking people into this dopamine cycle of doomscrolling. And, you know, that's pretty much why I don't like it.

52:12 They just did it as rot upon our society. Yeah. The algorithm just did. Just designed to get you in the right emotional space. Your ads are more potent. And all this bullshit. Sure. Like, it's it's so cliche at this point. Right. And people don't really know. The majority don't know how the inner workings of that stuff, but they still have the feeling of it.

52:29 They still can feel like a bit of what's happening. Right. And so there's a yeah, an intuition. And so then that's creating like this bad taste in people's mouth. Right. When they use the platform. Sure. Over time they'll get this like intuitive understanding of kind of what's happening. You know, it's not exposed. Right. It's white box because people are talking about it.

52:47 People are you're getting exposed to the idea, you know, you might not even understand what an algorithm is, but you do on some level know you're being controlled by this thing, right? And so with that being said, you know, it's it's going to inevitably that inevitably, I think social media is going to lose its allure because of that thing.

53:06 Like, do you think the pendulum is going to swing the other way where we end up getting rid of it or extricate it totally or no, it's going to have to turn into like, what I this is my belief is that I think it's going to have to turn into a social good. Yeah, a legitimate tool that's there to help your life.

53:22 And when you start to use it and see the benefit and feel the benefit, the reverse is going to happen. So it's going to take a long time for that because you know, you're not you're not basing your algorithm on hooking people to it, but on getting people to scroll for longer and stay on the platform longer. So you're not filtering the most compelling, or at least you're not doing it that same way because you're still looking for engagement with the platform, you're still looking for long term, usage.

53:46 The longer they stay, the more money we make sort of thing. No, I wouldn't do it that way. Well, but you were talking about doing it similar, but with good things involved. Like, I will engage you with the platform by helping you schedule your life. Right. I will engage you with the platform by helping you understand these trends, these things that are happening in your life.

54:05 Exactly. And so then but with the with the model of you're more successful when the person puts it down. Yeah, right. And gets on with their life. Yeah. Because you're more successful. Because they're more successful. There we go. And I think over time that would that model will prevail. I really do because people will feel and and you know, everything lines up their their intuition that this is a good thing lines up with the actual sentiment on how it's constructed and in the end result of their that it has on their life.

54:34 Exactly. And so I really, really believe in it. If, if I was smart, I would just go into it full time. Like that's all it would be focused on. But I can totally see why you're not. Because right now in my life, there's so many things happening. Yeah, and not only that, you'd be throwing away or you'd be shelving current successes, and that's.

54:56 There's something to be said. You. I need a success. So what I'm doing right now will lead to that. So you're getting you're getting points on the board right now. You know. And I think that's the key. I think I have like this ten maybe 15 year window though, where if I'm going to create the ultimate, my ultimate achievement, it's going to have to be in that window.

55:17 So you're saying my your magnum opus must be created soon? Yeah, I mean, I, I was pretty much convinced that that was going to be work pro design, but just didn't have enough funds to get across the finish line. But, that's still sitting there. That is the best thing I've ever designed. It's like has if I, if I got into the details of it and showed you the, the underpinning, it is the best thing I've ever conceived.

55:44 That's awesome. Yeah. But I mean, maybe, maybe with some of the philosophy of technology, if I've been stuck, would be like a good runner up. But it's close to the if it isn't the best thing ever conceived as close to why I think one supports the other. Maybe, you know, the philosophy of technology philanthropy dovetails nicely with a platform that extends that philosophy and really showcases what that philosophy can do.

56:12 It is like the demo of technology philanthropy. That's right. And the the workmen down in the lower the lowest level workman on the work crew. Right. The foreman is not going to be able to shave their hours. Right. It's all that kind of shit built right into the system. The foreman, cannot just say, yeah, that person only works six hours a day when they work nine hours, right?

56:36 Because the person themselves gets the report of their hours. Hey, what are you doing today? But let me. Yeah, they put in their hours, and then the foreman, basically, a person is the only way that they that the hours can be changed is if the person agrees that they only work six hours. And you know, you run that by a business owner and the designers like wait now the foreman should be able to change like yeah they can't, they can change it.

57:01 But then the, the downstream employee has to just confirm that that okay. Yeah. He goes in on the because it's always from your labor and that's what it's always been. It's always been a one way thing. Right. The employer controls this. Now it's a two way verification. Absolutely. And the technology should be shaping the behavior of not trying to change people hours.

57:22 So yeah that's going to be built in I'm sorry. If you don't like it go find another product that allows you to keep people. Yeah. But at the end of the day this product is going to prevail because it has equitable, equitable transactions through the front to back the whole entire way. Yeah. It allows an employee in these industries where traditionally they weren't stakeholders to be everybody that is becomes part of the ownership of the business's success.

57:48 And they don't necessarily this is not converting every business into an employee. Right. There's no way on business but it's converting the equity that way that the equitable daily transaction. Yeah it makes sense to me. You had a professional hard core got his bucket and his fishing poles. He's on it. But he looks like the kind of guy who's going to eat that fish.

58:09 Oh, he's going to get the fuck out of that fish. He's going you get caught by his pole. You're not getting thrown back. Yeah, dude. I mean, this guy is going out today to get dinner and yeah, he's just going to take the pliers and just rip the fucking hook out of your mouth and throw you in the cooler.

58:23 Throw in the bucket, Like it ain't going to just be this gentle. You know, he's going to rip that fucking hook from your job. I don't know. And when he first caught you, he. He whipped that damn rod so hard, he snagged that thing so deep into your jaw. That's at least you're worried that, hell, he might even rip a gill out.

58:41 Who knows? Yeah. And, like, not have any kind of emotional. Yeah, yeah. Like stone cold serial killer dead fish. You while he's ripping the ripping. Have you. You're gill out. Is this, Well, he's really on it. He took the wheelbarrow out of the back. Is. It's dedicated to fishing today. Oh, yeah? Yeah, maybe have that. Maybe he's got that bed line.

59:06 He's got a line on that bed for the whole thing. And serve is like a it's a fish pond. It's a mini lake. Yeah. It's gonna drive home. He's got a chest freezer. He's going to fill tonight. All the fucking fish. It's like catfish for months. Those poles are just a front. You got a stick of dynamite? One bite.

59:25 I always heard about people. Dynamite fishing. I guess they actually did that, didn't it? It looks like a more sophisticated gentleman that maybe, I don't know, maybe he's like a, 50,000 volt, electrode, to get him that way. Oh, shit. I shit you not. But my grandpa, that's what he used to do to get worms. Yeah.

59:44 Shock them. Well, he chuck the ground and they come to the front and hour come to come up, and we get all our worms, and then we never dynamite fish and fished. But that's how we get our worms. We shock the ground and then we get worms, and then we go fishing. So I saw this. I saw this video one time, and this person puts a stick in the ground, and the stick has a bunch of grooves cut in it.

1:00:06 It takes another single red column and they all come up by like, holy shit, it's the frequency. It's something about that. So they call the worms basically. Yeah. It's like literally just like a stick with a bunch of grooves in it. But these are right grooves and the right. Yeah, no speed. Right now it's analogy worms are coming up.

1:00:27 And the fucking insane right? It's like the Pied Piper of worms. Yeah, the worm whisperer, you know, there's like a bunch of birds watching the person do that be like, you, motherfucker. It's like, I could have been doing this, you know? Why did not? Why did we never break techno if I rich, you know what I have to do to just get one of those motherfuckers?

1:00:46 Yeah. It's like, how early do I have to wake up? I've been the early birds. There's. I've even taken that extra risk right after they mowed.

1:01:05 Perched upon a many an electric fence. I mean, I saw the cat, and. But they just moments I knew, you know, I even did that. This was carpenter comes out with a stick. God, it fucking sucks. These wings were my opponent. Exactly. I thought I was going to just say fucking opposable thumbs. Those big brained bastards.

1:01:28 They're not even eating the worms to get another. They're just using it to get something else. It's like the fucking brilliance of it. It must be in the matrix. I know that, but I knew my life was a computer simulation that, Wait, tweet, I retweet that. Yeah, exactly. Tweet tweet 2020 tweet tweet tweet tweet bird over there.

1:01:54 Retweet.

1:01:58 Oh, we are goofy. And then. And then the, the count comes up like it's flagged for, spreading conspiracy theories that are just unveiled. It is. So the birds banned. The birds? Yeah. The birds threatened. Threatened to be bad if they continue. If we just take the guy, man. The man? Yeah. And these are, these are corvids.

1:02:23 Corvids. Right. They're the ravens, the smartest of birds. The entire species gets banned from Twitter. Yeah.

1:02:32 Yeah, the guy from the local. Like from from one house down that, like, one time threw a rock at the bird. And now the bird, like, has all this shit of his, like, the key, the spare key to the door. You know, it's all. It's all in this little trove somewhere, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like this.

1:02:51 This raven or crow, whatever has. Just like, he's got the guy's glass. I.

1:02:57 I it's he's just trolling the heck out of him. Yeah. Got like this massive collection of, like, all these guys important things. Not just like, not just like a string, you know? No, no, not just a string in a book. He's got all of the spare key is the one that was hidden under the mushroom, the one that was hidden under the mat.

1:03:15 Yeah, because he saw him go go there when he needed the spare key. Right. They went and, like, literally fished it out, like all kinds of shit, you know, like, important stuff. Guys, like, where does that. Where's my. Where are the keys to the right lawnmower. Yeah. Where's my USB stick? It's like I will take everything from you.

1:03:36 It's next to the glass eye, which is next to the key, which is next in the Biden administration. Oh, it's like, where's my. Where are my dentures? Well, I was only able to get the top plate. Yeah. Why does it sleep? Yeah. Watch it right out of his mouth. Did it so fast it was gone so fast. The guy just woke up.

1:03:59 What the hell's the dream like? Where am I dying? Have you seen the video of, It was, I think it was in Russia. This, Crow or Raven? Sliding down a roof on a plastic lid. Oh, cool. It's so. And it would, it would slide down, and then it would pick the wood up and go back up the roof, and then he would slow down a circle.

1:04:22 Yeah, it's cool. And animals do shit like that. And crows and ravens and stuff like the genius of the bird. They really are. And like, you know, that's there's no joke. They literally can hold a grudge. Really? Yeah, totally. I wouldn't even just make that up. I didn't know that. Yeah. Like if you if you like, fuck with a crow and you're mean to it or whatever, it will remember that.

1:04:43 And if and if it can, it'll do things. Yeah, yeah. It's got your distributor cap.

1:04:52 It's got all these, like Joe's now going to work this morning and wife like, where's my wig crows wearing it. Yeah. The crows wearing it. It's like, see your wife in all her glory. Yeah. Crows can be blond. Well, you don't have to be brunet. I've never seen a bloody crow before. Oh, natural. These natural, long flowing locks on a crow.

1:05:15 Yeah. And these blue eyes. It's normal. Oh, yeah. Still your contacts today? Exactly. White. Like the, the the husband has, b and free and the crows wearing the s t and he ends right, like the crows got the other half of the bedspreads, like, oh, my God. You're my bitch. Oh, it's too funny. This dude is really taking his time getting ready for.

1:05:47 And, he's got got the day ahead of him, you know. Totally. Yeah. He's he's he's he's like right now mounting the, the Tom Tom. Yeah. Yeah. He's mounting the tom Tom on the on the windshield, on the glass with the suction cup. Right. It's got it's got the 2017 data. But I mean how often to fishing holes change what you're saying.

1:06:13 You can only go to like one of a dozen fishing holes now because the other 50 that you could get to the data is outdated. Like, not that, not the whole, navigation. Right, right. Yeah, but he knows how to work. He's committed to the technology. Yeah, yeah, it's what he knows. The map updates only $150.

1:06:36 And he's got his smartphone right next to it, right? Right. But he doesn't know that he can get maps on the smartphone. Yeah, he doesn't know that he can combine like that with Yelp reviews. And find out where the actual true fishing hole is, where the best dynamite fishing is, where the best. Yeah, yeah, fishing is dynamite fishing on Yelp.

1:06:54 There's enough granular detail. I'm going to look that up. See if there is. Dude, there is. It's the internet. Come on. Yeah, like. All right. Any conspiracy theory that you can ever think of or can be substantiated on the internet, like, true, you can't make up something that hasn't been made up before, like it's there, right? It's like that three word game with Google.

1:07:14 Like you try to put in three words and get zero results. Oh, they have to be like real words. You can't just make up like you know, x x x go, you know scope of the story company later on a word like that right. But what that would be right. But but albatross jungle gym. Stop sign.

1:07:35 Yeah. It's forget it. That's that. Those words are just too common. There's you're going to find tons of articles with those. Yeah. True. So the idea is to get no results. That's what I'm saying. But in three words, you know, results. Yeah. And the problem is that if you can't even search for the three words that bring up no results because those will be results.

1:07:54 So like you can't beat the system and say give me a list like Google. Show me a list of words that will stop Google. Because every three word combination that's in that list is now searchable, findable. And thanks to somebody Jesse. Yo. Yeah. You know, that's like somebody out there on, maybe a troll site in some foreign country has those three words on their website.

1:08:19 Now, that is a way to totally get traffic to your website, right? Like so advertise the shit out of the Google game of the three. And when the three words like, like, get plenty of people playing that game and then simultaneously send and put an eye on the task of trying weird combinations that work. And then every time that word combination works, you put that on your blog, right?

1:08:42 So then all these three word combinations that don't currently work, right, that that would work. Maybe now drive traffic to your and you could turn it into a legitimate article. Be like part 23 of. Yeah. Words that. Work or whatever it's like for this game. Backdoor hacking the meta of the world. Like, you know, all of a sudden you're like one of the most trafficked did sites.

1:09:07 So I heard about it themselves. Acronym for meta. Yeah. Most effective tactic available. Right. But that's clever, but it sounds good as metadata about it. Yeah, it's not as good as metadata, especially not with the Greendale picture of, Zuckerberg. Yeah, that's. I wish I got more traction. I think just a Star Trek reference just leaves too many people behind.

1:09:32 It's got to be a more contemporary reference. You're right. But it's it. But it just works so perfectly, like, it's so synergistic with the reality. Oh, man. You know, I know I'm going to get in trouble for it, but I definitely fantasize about, something mean happening to that man? I don't know, am. He's just reached such havoc upon the world, and he's just so oblivious to it like he is Captain Autismo.

1:10:00 You know. Well, I'm thinking about doing a small data project soon to, like, legitimately raise fundraise for, you know, a new idea behind social media. Yeah. And what I could probably do is make a series of videos explaining and how would you do something like, Kickstarter or Indiegogo? Yes, I'm thinking something like that. But then but really, really tapped my long established network of people that I know.

1:10:27 Yeah. You know, like, individually contact, you know, type of each person and say, look, just help me out 20, 30 bucks. I don't care what it is. Right? You know, I mean, this is really something that can happen and I can make it happen. Yeah. I just need the funding to do it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if, if thing for, like, an animated D&D campaign can make a couple million bucks, you know, so like, let's, let's make the social media that changes the world and here's, and here's the ideas.

1:10:58 Because I have that I have the ideas. Yeah. Laid out I mean, heavily laid out, you know, really actually brainstorm. I mean, I've, I've put a pretty major time. Well, I mean, that to me will let you come up with some very fine grain fundraising goals. So you'll be able to continually release content for updates. You'll be able to say, hey, now that we've had this level of success, I'm going to release this and we're going to we're going to move into this goal, or we'd like to do this or, you know, you've got all the fodder you need to basically market it because that's the key to these fundraising campaigns, effective marketing.

1:11:36 Yeah. And have like the soft guitar playing in the background and talking about how we're gonna change the world. Right, right. But you know soft guitars just because that's what works. Yeah I mean you know you, you recruit some a you pay for a Sarah McLaughlin track or something about all you do is raise money for, raise money for animals in shelters.

1:11:56 I'm inadvertently right, dude, if you raised money for animals in shelters and diverted 20% of that, that by accident, if you if you diverted 20% of that, you you'd have enough money. Yeah. Now, every time I hear Sarah McLaughlin song, I think of the shivering dog and it's fucking. Oh, it's so sad. I can't even watch this commercial, you know, like there's this double guilt because, you know, you got this show on DVR and the commercial comes on, you see, like the shaking dog and, you know, like, that dog is dead.

1:12:24 Now, the cat with one eye, you know, like fucking your heart starts falling out of your chest, and then you fast forward through it. Yeah. Like I'm a double dick, you know, like, not only could I have watched this and donated six months ago. Yeah, not only did I do nothing, but then because it was hurting my heart, I just had to fast forward.

1:12:44 Yeah, I did nothing again. I like layers of guilt and. And now like my mind. Just associate Sarah McLachlan songs with this, this guilt. And so like, no, no will even change the Sarah McLachlan if it comes on the radio. Like so it's like now triple guilt, like I'm even, guilty for, for for subverting my own guilt.

1:13:10 You know, I mean, guilt has been a tool of so many institutions over the years. It's an effective thing. I mean, look at church, whether we're talking Protestants or Catholics, you know, they're it's predicated upon. Yep. I mean, apparently it's an effective tool. The ASPCA, assuage yourself of guilt by giving us money, I think I think it's probably a big thing that makes the whole commerce system work.

1:13:38 I mean, you know, poor people are honest in general and so more honest generally. Yeah. So. Right. So then, you know, these predatory all systems like, payday loan and, you know, this bullshit sign and drive type thing, right? Your job is your credit rent to own. And, you know, all these fucking schemes all work because the people feel a sense of responsibility to pay back 5,000%, you know, interest rate.

1:14:03 Right? Whereas, you know, hey, someone that if someone had full knowledge of the system and how the money's just, then they would use that as a tool and not pay it back. Yeah, I'd say, yeah, fuck off the scheme it to where, you know, they they work the system for their advantage somehow. Yeah. Like flip the script. But the, the whole system is predicated on people being in general honest and, you know, care about honoring their commitments and their work.

1:14:32 And there's, it's the carrot and stick model to a degree, too, because we're threatened with the stick. Yeah. Like your credit card is at risk once your credit. It's a certain point. Yeah. Yeah, right. It doesn't matter. But then when your credit hits a certain point, your participation in the system is harder. Yeah, maybe if you still have that side hustle that works.

1:14:56 Cash is still king. Doesn't matter what your credit is. You got cash? Someone going to talk to you? Yes. And my great grandfather, he. That was his his thing. He didn't have any credit, but he would buy everything in cash, and he was insanely cheap. Yeah. Once you have enough cash, someone says, oh, okay, well, I have to pull your credit report, say, fuck you.

1:15:15 You pull your let me pull your credit report. Right. I can you know dude he he would go you have the cash, he would go to the car dealership and he would talk to them about removing every single feature from the car. Possible. And then he would be like, okay, how much does that cost? Okay. So you want me to give you 12,000 phone here?

1:15:37 Yeah. And then talk about your trade in and talk about how you have your own financing and after they've already. Right. Like yeah. You led them to believe that there's no trade in and you led them to believe that you're going to take their shitty financing. Oh yeah. Right. And so they've, they've, they've they've squeezed the deal to where they're giving you a good deal on the car, but you make it all back in the interest and all that, and then you refinance or you pay off the loan in cash because there's no early repayment penalty two days later and you fuck them over and they don't get their bonuses.

1:16:07 That's a that's another way of running the scheme. Yeah. I was talking about like when you're working with the actual sales, you know. Right, right. I'm just I'm saying you get them to pare down the deal and it works for them and it works for you. You get all the discounts, but then they end up having to eat the discounts because you either pay it off in cash or refinanced with someone else.

1:16:26 Yeah. And then you could actually deal with the guy. He's like, you know, should be called chompers because you've got this massive mouthful of teeth and they're bright white, smells like cigarets. But chewing gum like chew gum and smokes at the same time. Yeah. Big Red. Yeah. He smiles and he's like, got this like whitening by the sun.

1:16:42 White, bright white, almost bluish white teeth. Oh, God. Right. And and the, the, the deep wrinkles in the face that go along with the smile. Big smile. Well, you know, and just can't not be lured by the guy. And it's like, you know, he's too extroverted and funny. You can zone in on him. Oh, God. Like we're talking about.

1:17:04 Yeah, he's he's charisma personified. Yeah. He's just done it so much and for so long. Oh, he's repulsive. But you love him. Yeah. Yeah. And some for some reason you want to give him your business, right? Like you will after you buy your first car from this guy. You buy every car from this guy? Yeah. And each time you feel dirty, but you still go back, you're like, this is like a bad relationship.

1:17:27 Yeah. You find out. Like, you find out. Not long after the deal that how how bad you got screwed, but then you still buy your next car running. Oh. Oh, I think I think we've all been there. Yeah. My loyalty. Every time I turned on the TV, I feel way, you know. Oh, dude, I gotta go. Unfortunately, every time I watch the news.

1:17:48 Yeah. Yes. Totally. Oh, man. Well, that was a that was a good far ranging conversation, I enjoyed it. I think we did a good job that meandered.

1:18:00 Later. Later, dude.