0:00 No cessation, just, like in general, how our society is completely, you know, I don't know, like a numb to hyper violence. Right? It's like the portrayal of violence through all these different channels, you know, like, you can see imagine, for example, something like Game of Thrones. It'll definitely be talking about Game of Thrones. Okay. Yeah.

0:25 But going back to the abortion debate, you know, this idea that, like, if the women were to collectively decide, you know what, we're we're tired of this, misogynistic doctrine that's been imposed on us for all these years. And now it's creeping back up through the legislation and really turning the screw on. Let's be honest. Poor women. Yeah.

0:47 You know, abortion is still legal for everybody in the country with money, right? You know, that's the part I would never really hear much in the debate. But, you know, that's the reality. And, you know, because if you have money, you can do things like order, order pills from this Dutch doctor that's been sending, you know, here for like four years, right?

1:10 Or you if you have money, you can travel to Indiana from Ohio or whatever, right? Yeah. I mean, it's always been that way. Or even if it were a nationwide ban. Leave the country. Yeah. Have a flight. Have a medical flight. Quote unquote. Right. Yeah. Medical flight to Canada or something. Right. So let's be honest. This is this whole thing literally just just is turning the screw on for people or women specifically.

1:39 You know, that's what we want to do in this country. Yeah, it's and let's be honest, too. I mean, having a kid when you can't afford to have a kid, it's financially crippling. And all the, all the, all the like downstream effects that come with that as well. Yeah. Oh my gosh. What are we doing here? I mean, the one the the flagship situation we keep bringing up is, you know, the ten year old girl in Ohio who was raped and then.

2:09 Oh, yeah, you know, had to go to Indiana, but she could go to Indiana. She was able to, you know, and that's a terrible, terrible situation. I know something I came across that I thought was interesting. There was a guy who was born months after row was brought in as a as law, and he was saying he wished his mother had actually had the choice to abort.

2:39 Oh, wow. And the reason being he was talking about he grew up.

2:47 He was, he was adopted by a Catholic family who were missionaries. And, he was often put up as a poster child. He feels like his parents adopted him in as a form of protest. Oh, I see. And he, he spent his life around priests and nuns. And, you know, everyone was like. Aren't you glad you were spared from abortion?

3:14 You know, what the hell. Yeah. And so he's just talking about how the kind of, psychological impact that had and, he is an advocate now for family planning and choice and all of those things. Wow. Strange. And he helps run an organization that does that. But he said, you know, if my mom had had apparently his mother, he found out.

3:40 So they lied to him and told him that his mother was a 16 year old girl who had him out of wedlock, when really his mother had him within wedlock, but was about to leave her husband and had four other children. Oh my goodness. And so she chose to adopt, to give him up for adoption because she's like, I've already got four kids I'm going to have to support on my own.

4:02 I don't know if I could do five. How can you do for my goodness, right. And she was affiliated with numerous, religious charities, which is how the missionaries adopter adopted him. And they basically encouraged her to adopt, you know, rather than a back alley abortion. What a strange thing. Like some institution making you the poster child. Yeah.

4:27 Anti-abortion. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's that's weird. And so he's like, hey, you know, I would have avoided I would have avoided all that he goes, and I wouldn't have known about it because I wouldn't have existed. Yeah. I mean, I think there's really something to this kind of like, not just pro-life as a synonym for anti-abortion, but pro-life as a life stance.

4:48 Across the board. I mean, if, you know, because, you know, the people on the left are like, you know, automatically, you know, go to zero or if you're pro-life, why are you in favor of war. You know, that's just that's just such a dumb argument to be honest with you. Because let's be honest, who's in favor of war?

5:04 Really? Everyone knows, you know, if you're if you're even, like, you know, somewhat conscious, you know, everyone knows that pro-life just means anti-abortion. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't mean antiwar. Yeah. No. But how cool would it be is if if you did have a movement where. Because that would, that would kind of transcend party, you know, that was pro-life in the truest sense.

5:27 That really was about extending that social safety net, that really was about supporting people in their pursuit of happiness and all those things that are delineated in the Constitution. That's right. As an ideology slash life stance, you know, and then, ironically, what that does is it brings abortion back into the whole.

5:47 Abortion, for all intents and purposes, becomes a very pro-life thing for for people like this ten year old girl in the U.S. thing. And, you know, you have to, I think, you know, made a pretty decent, idea about when he was kind of some, some whatever it was, you know, journalist was trying to get, like, a gotcha moment on him, you know, making him try to defend late term abortions.

6:15 Okay. Okay. Yeah. And, you know, he was pointing out that these, the ones that do occur, like, extremely rare proportionately, you know, and they're always over extremes. He went to the statistics and said, this is a rare thing. Yeah. Like the typical person doesn't just say, hey, you know, there's a reason why somebody making a decision with their physician and with their, you know, he said, with their clergy member, with their spiritual guide or, you know, whoever's giving them spiritual guidance and their doctor and saying it's a holistic life decision.

6:49 It's not this off the cuff, let me abort this baby, the Bible outside the womb. Yeah. Like I'm not feeling this anymore, you know, type thing. Yeah. And know, you know, he made a it was almost like he had a bit of a pre canned response to it, but that's okay. How you dude I mean it was emotionally impactful okay.

7:05 Wouldn't you have prepared for that one yourself. Yeah I would have prepared for that one. Yeah I mean if I was a politician I would I would dodge the question because I would say, you know, the first of all, the statistics are pointing out that what you're saying is an extremely rare thing. And in the in the case of those rare teas, we have to get down into the details of each one.

7:24 And there's no time for that in a, in a, you know, in a quick news interview. Yep. Right. Yep. And in a way it's dodging. But in a way it's not. In a way it's saying, look, really what you're saying is not the issue. This is. Yeah. Right, right. Absolutely. So, you know, there's there's versions of violence in these things, like built in, you know, so going back to the violence concept, you know, oh, we want to get out.

7:50 I want to get out first. Like the idea behind, where the onus of this energy for this anti-abortion for rolling back row really is coming from, and where it's coming from is, you know, radical Christian ideology. You know, of course, that's the source of of all of all this change, this changed a row and all this stuff and the loading of the courts.

8:11 And, you know, the politicians are capitalizing on the single, single voter issue type stuff. Yeah. And, what's what's called pelvic politics. Oh, wow. I've not heard that term. So, you know, kind of energizing your base based on what people do with their pelvis. Right, right. Whether people. So the next energizing shot in the arm is, let's take care of those.

8:35 They're that they're gay people who do stuff with their pelvis in the house. Right, right, right. So like like gay marriage, gay rights, abortion, female rights, female female autonomy over the reproductive rights, etc. all all that's in the domain of quote unquote, pelvic politics. Right. Right. So, I think pelvic pelvic is a morning is a is pretty, pretty funny, you know, clever.

8:59 Yeah. Little moniker to to get all that stuff. Yeah. It's a nice place to bucket it all. It's a nice way to tie it in. I. I understood they were ideologically related, but I never really quite got the whole idea of, you know, we're really tying ourselves back to that puritanical ideal of everyone must have sex in missionary.

9:20 Once in under a God approved area. You know, I heard of what? I heard of one of these, like, Arab countries where they have, this really strict, you know, got to be married to have sex type thing. Yeah. And, like, these rich whatever princes or whatever. Well, you know, really rich businessmen or whatever will go away to, like, this resort.

9:41 And when they get there, they sign a marriage certificate. Wow. And they, you know, do what they want to do. And then when they leave, they signed the divorce certificate. That's funny. So it's, like, still completely good under Isaac. God. Yeah. Yeah. Gotta. Gotta proves. Yeah. Guys up on the cloud looking down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did it.

10:03 Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. I'll see you soon, buddy. You're gonna get your virgins. Yeah, you're gonna get your virgins. And, you know, I'm a fist bump your ass when you get up here. Yeah, yeah, that was fucking brilliant. That was just fucking clever. Beat me in my own game.

10:22 He's like God's loophole. Number 3,000,072, Devil's doorbell. God's loophole. All these fun, great words. Great, great sayings this morning. Well, I'm just saying, you know, if he's sitting up there cataloging them, you know, there's got to be a few million of God's loopholes when you say, oh, yeah, that's the first thing. It's like instead of let there be light, it's like, let there, let there be, you know, really good legal, nuance so that there's always, always a loophole.

10:53 Right, right, right. I mean, and that's the thing that's why I say this is these are these are definitely the traditions of man before space and time. Law was like legal, legal, legal ease was the first. Legal ease was the first joke of God is what it was. Let me create this thing that is Swiss cheese. That the actual first dimension of the universe.

11:16 Yeah. Legal. Legally first, eventually. But yeah. You know, and I mean, that's why I say these are traditions of man. These are things that, you know, no omniscient being created, these precepts and laws and guidance, or they wouldn't be so hard to interpret and, you know, full of holes if someone if an if a God handed these down and wanted us to follow them, they I imagine they'd be a little more ironclad.

11:49 Yeah. So let's say let's say that you had this like, you know, wide swath of American women saying, look, this new change, this new change to Roe v Wade and all these states that where the trigger laws went to effect and, you know, blah, blah, blah. We all know what happened. Yeah. You know, if they look at that and they say, okay, on the whole what we see here is this, all this really does is it is it is it blocks abortion from, you know, a whole, a whole mess of poor women.

12:19 Right. Let's just say. Yeah. And the women say, you know what? At the end of the day, it's this. It's this core ideology, right, of this misogynistic doctrine that is actually causing them now poor women to suffer. Yes. Right. And they have different rights than other non poor women. It's it's abuse up and down the economic strata. Right.

12:43 But the survivor you know, this misogynistic doctrine doesn't just affect this one thing. But this is the easiest thing to hold up as a banner. I mean right. And we'll start looking at rights through the lens of like what the net effect of each individual's rights really are. Like. For example, if, you know, you got a pretty decent sum of money, prostitution is legal for you.

13:06 You can just go to where prostitution is legal. Yeah. And enjoy whatever you want to enjoy. Right? Just like the rich. You know, Arab sheiks or whatever. Right. Like we were talking about with that example. So the legally is, you know, loopholes are really, you know, create a different array of rights and privileges, right? Yeah. Based on how much cash you have.

13:30 And that's exactly what we have here with abortion. You know, the women with any kind of, family, you know, equity that gets into a situation and it's like, you know, the condom broke and, you know that I'm going to have Johnny. Yeah. That bad apple seeds, baby. Yeah. I'm pregnant with snakes, baby, you know. Oh, no, not snake wish anything worse than snake would be.

13:55 Blake. Like the president of the new Republicans at the college, I'd be like, oh, shit. That'd be like, the only worst seed that demon seed to have in the abdomen. Right? So you either you've got a few options, like you, like you have. So I think you're afraid your phrase is patented here. You have to say it. It takes you to say you gotta about the rocking the demons.

14:16 Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. That's what save that for the violence. But like like using violence as regardless we have to get rid of this demon seed. It's what we're trying to get at. Right, right right, right. So if the family has resources and the young lady just is not going to have Snake or Blake's baby, right.

14:37 And, and by the way, like the birth control failed, like, type situation. Yeah, right. The family, you know, let's say she was on birth control and he used a condom. I mean, hell, yeah. And then the father borrows from the 401 or whatever, and the. The girl goes to Vermont or Massachusetts or, you know, one of these vacations, delightfully liberal states.

14:59 Yeah. Right. Where it's, like, legal and maybe even, you know, maybe there's an abortion resort. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe The Onion did a funny thing about that, but anyway. Did they? Oh, hilarious. Oh, yeah. The onion did this. The onion. The onion did this, like, you know, Planned Parenthood kind of outcry against type thing, saying how they created this new, like, $80 million megaplex, like a dance club.

15:24 And, you know, there's a there's this giant incinerator to, like, get rid of the fetuses, like babies and bulk. Yeah. Bulk. Right. And there's like, testimonials of women saying, you know, I can't wait to get pregnant again so I can go back, you know, like, anyway, the funny thing about this is some Republicans, senator, like, posted it like in a tweet.

15:44 Oh, it was like, see the kind of stuff that that see the kind of stuff that's happening. Yeah. And it's so great. Didn't realize it was an onion. Oh, if we have time, I have a couple of more of those type of things that I ran across that I archived on my phone this morning. What's that? Onion. No, not the onion, but people falling for things that are clearly satire.

16:06 Oh, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like life. Yeah, right. I mean, there is no bigger satire. You have to laugh. Yeah. So the second fundamental principle of the universe after legal ease is, is like fucking humor. Yeah, it's pervasive dark humor. Right? It it isn't necessarily every facet of the of the universe. Like, like like, you know, God has to have, like, a rapist wit, you know, in order to bestow the bestow some of the, you know, dark humor upon humanity, which.

16:41 Oh, yeah, let everybody out and, you know. Yep. Gonna flood everybody out, like, drown them in the tub, basically. But, you know, but but now there's rainbows. Yeah. And that's my joy. Enjoy. Enjoy this rainbow. After all of your friends, family and animals have died, right. And you know what? This is also symbolic of my promise to never do that again, I promise.

17:07 Oh, it was worth it. Everyone I know and love is dead. But rainbow and my God, I had to take care of these, multitude of animals for, you know, I mean, God, it would have had to take years for that water to recede. Yeah, right. And then. And then only for the inevitably for the LGBTQ community to hijack the symbol.

17:30 Yeah, well, that was the plan. Yeah, that was the plan all along. That was the divine play at all. Yeah. That that's that's the humor, right? I love it, I love it. Yep. See, there's your dark sarcasm. Yeah. So that's that's tenant number two of creation of the universe. Pervasive dark sarcasm. Yeah. The second physical principle of the universe.

17:51 You know, it's not space time. You know, no first one's legally. The second one is right. Right. It's that space time energy. Right? Like matter. Right. That. Right. It's legal ease. Dark sarcasm, dark humor. Yeah. We'll probably flesh this out throughout the course of this conversation. Oh, yeah. Like of the of the of the other dimensions that precede reality.

18:12 Space time. Yeah. Proceed. Our reality. Yeah. The very foundations. Yeah. So, I'm, I'm going to get it out. But this idea that, like, hey, if these, you know, true Christian values, true Christians. Right? Females, true Christian females. Say, you know, what we're going to do? We're no longer going to turn the screw on poor people, on poor women.

18:32 And this misogynistic doctrine motherfucking bullshit. It's also turning the screws on us, the screws on us, and has been for, you know, 2000 years plus, you know, it's time. It's time.

18:48 You know it's time. It's time to it's time to to stop. Right. And not show up at church. Stop showing up at church. Because if collectively, a mass majority of the women stop showing up at church, everything changes you. You see Rovi Wade snap back to to law so fast, like there'd be the fastest reversal of anything you've ever seen if all of a sudden women stopped showing up to church.

19:13 So, trust me, that's exactly what happens if that triggering a mass exodus of Christianity from females, that nothing would change faster, you know, road be back into effect, trying to think of the country that, women even walked out of domestic positions in the 50s, and now they have the greatest level of equality, measured objectively. It's a Scandinavian country.

19:37 Yeah. I mean, you don't have to boycott sex with your boyfriend or husband. Yeah. What you need to do is boycott the bullshit ideology that that underlying. Well, that's what this was. It was they walked out of jobs, they walked out of the house. They walked out of everything. Hey, maybe that's what it's going to take. But, you know, good men shouldn't have to suffer.

19:55 I mean, maybe, maybe the good men do say, you know what? It's worth it, right? Maybe the good men say, okay. Yeah, you have to. Well, you talk with your wife. You know, if you're a good man, you're going to know your wife's about to join this protest. Yeah, yeah. And you're going to plan accordingly and to some extent be there protesting with.

20:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, you if you're a good, good person who wants to support this and your wife wants to support this, then you're going to figure it out. Yeah. So I already support this this idea for this movement by me not going to church myself on some days. Oh yes. Yes. I also boycott church on Sundays, Wednesdays and any other day you guys feel like going.

20:35 I boycott and advocate against any ideology that, you know, makes women second class citizen or worse, damn right. Or property or, you know, objectifying whatever, etc.. So, but the women. Oh my God, the power that they only knew. Yep. Well, they know, but they're not exercising. Yeah, yeah. Okay. If they can only act on the power that they have here, I'm telling you what, it would change overnight because that's exact thing, right?

21:03 The idea is like, oh, we got to bring back Christian values. We gotta. Right. Okay. Do we want to bring back Christian values? No, that what that means is terrible, terrible things for rolling back rights for so many different people. And the thing is, really, it's their pining. Nostalgia is pining for a time that never quite existed. And that's what they're doing.

21:25 Make America Great Again will win. Yeah, exactly. What was at that point you had all this bullshit? Exactly. Do you want to bring all that back to you? No, we don't want to bring back these things that I mean, when we're talking about making great again, what they're talking about really is curtailing rights up and down the spectrum here.

21:45 We're talking about they want to the extreme version of this is bringing back Jim Crow laws. And, you know, going ahead and persecuting gay people and just saying that states rights. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And it looks like they're espousing the extreme version. You know, everybody would was debating like, oh no, no, that's just the extremes. No. It looks like the extremes are in control right now.

22:07 Well that's the thing. Is that like that extreme gerrymandering for example, is just a it's just a, you know, another facet of kind of a Jim Crow idea. It is it is because we all know from voting. That's right. We all know, at the end of the day, what the net effect of that extreme gerrymandering is. It's chilling to voting and things like, you know, requiring an ID and all of that.

22:29 It's chilling to voting because they know these are hardships for people that don't have as much mobility just by changing anything, like putting a little nuance, any little wrinkle will then keep X number of people away, which then benefit. Yeah. So like the extreme gerrymandering where like even a neighborhood is like carved out. Yeah. You know, like there's like a ring around the neighborhood.

22:54 Or moving polling places by a mile or two miles. Right. So basically there's using dusting off the old redlining maps. Yes. And using that for their use. But what they're doing now is backing it with statistics not yeah, massive computer algorithms, massive computer algorithms that are really determining the most efficient way to shut people out. See, now, if someone wanted to hire me for a project to do that, it'd be like, no, you got to go somewhere else, right?

23:22 So that's that's what I was talking about that time. Or maybe you do malicious compliance and it all blows up and you waste millions. What? Oh that's fraud. But hey, like, that's that's like white hat. That's like an extreme version of white hat. White hat hacking. It is. Right, like white hat business fuckery. And it is fraud. It is absolutely fraud.

23:43 I'm not really advocating it, but it sounds hilarious. Be one hell of a thing like anti gerrymandering. Yeah, it like does the exact opposite of what the goal is, right? And it's not like there'd be that many people in the organization that get audit what you were doing anyway. They don't have the technical. Yeah. Yeah yeah. So like the the readout is one way.

24:07 But then what happens in reality is is the exact opposite. So so the reports are exactly what they want. Yeah. Exactly. Tells them they want even though they lost. You're projected to win by.

24:20 Oh that guy. Oh I see what happened here. That guy must have worked for Dominion for,

24:26 For whatever the Argentinian, you know, guy that was like. Right. He sends the data up to an Italian satellite, which then changes votes. Yeah. What kind of crazy shit was that? The whole thing is crazy. I'm just saying, the whole thing is insane. But, like, he really does come across like, they got high and drunk and came up with these theories.

24:49 They don't make any sense. They're not even Cuban on this group of people getting high and drunk like Chan. That's really what it seems like because they don't like it's not a good old fashioned conspiracy theory where you can see a kernel of truth, right? There's like, it's predicated upon stupidity and ignorance. Yes. And, it has a level of unbelievably, which then makes it credible and believable.

25:13 That's a good point. And never thought about it like that. The very fact that it's self-selecting, it's kind of like those fraud schemes from the Nigerian princess. Yeah. It's totally it selects for the really dumb. Yeah. And if it was just, you know, such and such did this and it was something obvious, right, right. Then the people be like, I don't know.

25:34 I'm skeptical about that. But you make up this completely bizarre. But like Pizzagate. Yeah, yeah. And the dude shows up with an AR 15. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah. He shows up at the pizza place to free the children and free the children in the basement that are being raped and recorded. Can you imagine? Yeah. That's crazy.

25:54 Oh, there's no basement in this place. No. Or, like, whatever. Yeah. It's just somebody. Imagination. Yeah. Just a fucking shitty pizza place. And like, they're saying the logo means some pedophile thing, and you know, what the hell? Fucking crazy. You know, it's like every time you see an eyeball, you're like Illuminati. Wow. Like, okay, anytime there's any kind of image of an eye, like in an icon or logo, all seeing eye Illuminati.

26:22 Yeah, right. Wow. Like, could you imagine, could you imagine, like if if those. There really was such a pervasive thing. No I can't. I mean, okay, like Diamond Dallas Page is signaling and you know, Jay-Z and you know, my gosh, could you imagine and and I mean, have you guys seen what DDP has been doing since he was a wrestler?

26:50 I don't know how that name came into my mind. He has he he sells a yoga thing. He does yoga. Y'all know shit. Okay. See this is like great for our links section. So we'll have the Devil's doorbell. We'll have DVP, DDP. They're just heavy on the D's today. So it is interesting I, I've heard lots of solutions to the abortion problem.

27:15 Like I've heard a lot of like people putting forward solutions. But the one thing I haven't heard people putting forward is, hey, it's time to have a mass exodus of the church, right? I have not heard that solution, but guess what? I think that actually is the solution. It's a really good one. Is women saying nope. And the men saying we're going, we were going to remove the misogyny from this religion, I love that.

27:37 Right. Like a, like a new, kind of cardinal college or whatever. Like a new assembly of, you know, the big powers up in the, in the top tiers of the religion whose hand basically are getting forced because, look, we just got gutted from 50% of our congregation, you know, universally across the board in America. I mean, that would be so we got to come.

27:59 We got to come together. And the thing is, I would think you might be able to start something like that. If you talk to some of the people that are in those magic churches, right. Because a lot of the people in the megachurches are on the more progressive side of this. Pastors in the megachurches led this shit. That's what I'm trying to say.

28:22 Oh, that'd be delighted. That would make that make me want to show up. After the dust settles, I'd show up to the damn concert. Yeah, right. You know. Yep yep yep. Yeah. The, the rock often. Yeah. 2022 aka sermon. Yeah. Right, right. I've been to a couple of them just to check them out. They'll tell you they are.

28:47 They're interesting, but. And they're usually very careful about what they do tell you. They're usually fairly accurate on the Bible thing. But so these days, like instead of having, you know, tons of tulips and candles and draperies and, you know, crucifix, huge crucifix of Jesus up there above the altar and pipe organ. Now it's drum kit, electric guitar, right?

29:14 Yeah, it is the the new props of modern Christianity. Oh, yeah. And, you know, to quote Hank Hill, you're not making Christianity better. You're just making rock and roll worse. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. So, you know, in the, in the humanist religion, what they call a quote unquote the life stance, right? Rather than saying, like, you know, any kind of decree of how to live, it's like taking a life stance on how you orient yourself to want to live your life.

29:45 Kind of it. You. Right. So they speak of this thing called life stance. Anyway, the idea is that explicitly stated in the manifesto, right? Which automatically makes it sound like cult, but anyway, never should use it. How can these brilliant people that make this thing be so dumb to use the word manifesto, right? It's like fucking Unabomber manifesto.

30:08 That's the kind of first that's where manifesto, the Communist Manifesto, Communist Manifesto. Yes, yes, yes. So, you know, in in the colloquial term, you think. Yes. I can't believe that. Yeah. Anyway, that's, that's a, that's a real really quickly on that one. But, you know, the idea I guess instead of trying to get soaking wet with our feet.

30:30 Yeah. Okay. You got the answer.

30:38 Right? So the idea of, like, referring to the record doctrine as a manifesto right out of the gate. Wow. So, you know, taking the taking the negative column. But anyway. Yeah, in that they, they talk about how human values are a progressing, evolving, continuously evolving thing like human values, human ideology, human morality. Right is a is a shifting thing.

31:07 Yeah. As society changes, as does the sentiments of what people consider moral and immoral. Yes, yes. And that's a succinct way to say something. I believe we've kind of flirted with the edges of before moral subjectivity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the problem is, is that when any, any core ideology that you start to take on from a moral, ethical starting to create a framework for how people should live, every time you do that, you you can have someone create objections through the through the logic of moral relativism and make it to where no rules can be formed.

31:46 Right? Right, right. And it really goes back to any logical system, just having a limited amount of introspection and being incomplete. I mean, yeah, it's just the way it is. It's incomplete due to, valid exceptions, exemptions to the rules, exceptions to the rules. Right. Is that a holding or does that grass. Yeah. It's grass. It's a grass.

32:13 We were almost looks like water from here. Weird. You like mine? Didn't realize we were just there. No. How strange. I have no sense of direction. Well, it's a good thing. Like I'm more or less lead these walks. Yeah, we would be completely lost. Which would probably be some of our best. Yeah. So, like, there's some advantages. Yeah.

32:36 Anyway, my, my friends are all different types. We used to go, we used to go and walks and stuff when we were kids and all that. We'd always get into some kind of crazy shit. And he was walking with me as an adult, like 3 or 4 years ago. He's like, oh, another walk with you on. It's like, because we got lost and we ended up having to walk up the side of the highway.

32:58 Like super dangerous and illegal. Yeah, you trespass ten times. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, oh man, this is great. Let's just not die, dude. I was skiing way back in the day. I was like, it's still a teenager. I think I was 16 or 17 with my family and I, I ended up out of bounds on the ski slope.

33:18 Oh, crap. With no way to get back. Like, impossible to like. The snow was too deep to like, walk up. So I had to go downhill and I'm thinking, okay, as long as I keep going downhill, I'll reach some kind of waterway or some type of right. That makes sense. And then if I follow that, I'll. It'll lead me to some house, town, whatever.

33:41 Yeah. Somewhere that can help. So I walk in many miles and ski boots. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Oh, that was that was bad. And, Dude, this is back before cell phones, so, like, you know, I rolled up on some gas station, you know, probably macros. Oh, so you got to a gas station, got the number for the ski slope called the, you know.

34:02 Oh, yeah. You use the the yellow Pages. You got the number? Yeah. I used the classic way we used to have to do things. Yeah. And then there was a, you know, alert at the ski slope from the administrative side that your son is at such and such a gas station. And I just sat there and waited. I had no there was no cell phone.

34:22 Yeah. You just had to say, look, I put out the communiqué. It's one way. It's one way. Like with the understanding that like at some point they're going to probably start looking for me. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, in that search, go to the administrative hub at the ski slope. Right. And then make the connection. That's so great.

34:44 Well, sure enough, they, they appeared and, you know. Sure enough, the family finally showed up, and, my father just, rolls down the window and says, get in. Oh, wow.

34:58 No. Said wow. That describes his parents. Got enough? Hell not. Oh, my God, I'm glad you're okay. Yeah. Like what happened? Tell me what's up. Oh my God. Nothing. I'm so worried, you know. Oh, no. My heart sank when we couldn't find you. I love you so much. I'm just happy you're safe. Get in. And you know, then going on to praising how intelligence you are.

35:22 And. Yeah, to have worked it out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Get it? Wow. And then quiet. You know, like so not only not only do you feel, you know, just you should feel horrible. Yeah. You're defeated. You almost feel like the whole thing was your fault at that point. Yeah. And then like, later on post, you know, reflecting later on and saying, yeah, maybe I shouldn't even call, right?

35:43 Maybe I would have just been better off to keep walking. The local community looked pretty like I had some resources. Yeah, yeah. And you were a smart kid. Couch surfing there would have been better than having my own room back, back, back in my hometown. Damn. That's when you know that you're in a good spot. Right? Right. Social safety net is tight knit.

36:05 You know, when couch surfing is a is an uptick in your quality of life. Yeah. There was just there's plenty of places where that's true. You're right, you're right. And, there was a guy. Who I used to go to these, like, 2600 meetings every now and then, like, no idea what that is. 2600 is like a hacking group.

36:29 Oh, okay. Sort of. Okay. It's more of a learning group. Gotcha. And, 2600 is a reference to the, tone in Hertz. You'd have to blow to seize a trunk. Basically a point where all the phone lines came into so that you could do something with it, because early on. Hey, data and voice, whatever. The same channel.

36:53 This is a frequency signal. Yeah. So you blew. You blew 2600Hz, and you, the trunk would wake up and you'd be able to interact with it. Yep, yep. And send command signals. Yep. Gotcha. And so you can hop. Well, so because it was originally the group was based around freaking or phone hacking. Okay. But this guy. Schism.

37:21 Yeah. He, he was a system administrator in the huge dual fan. Right? And probably a big tool. He, he liked he was a traitor back in the windows NT four days, you know, and when, you know, being a sad man just brought you tons of cash. Well, yeah, all he did for living arrangements was either staying hotels where his company was having him travel, or he would couch surf with friends.

37:54 The guy had stupid money and retired at like 39. And then you go by a schism and do this and be a 2600 leader. Right? Right. Exactly. He can do whatever he wanted. And he did. He had a private plane. He had all kinds of stuff. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay. And, Yeah. I mean, he was like someone to know.

38:20 Yeah, yeah. He's a cool dude. And, you know, he helped me to learn a lot about computers, but, Cool. Yeah. So the whole idea there is that social safety net was there for him. He was in an affluent area where there were lots of people who were employed by companies that were just shoving money at him in the 90s.

38:41 And so he took advantage of the social safety net. They had houses. He didn't. He stayed at theirs. Oh, wow. Hey, if you if you're like, signal single and can pull something like that off. Right. That's kind of clever. Yeah, it was a brilliant. I was like and not boring. No. Like like kind of nomadic, you know, staying with just friends and, like, new acquaintances.

39:04 How fun would that be? Gosh, dude. Like, yeah. You're you. It'd be like a form of expanding yourself. It would, it would. And that probably explains why he was so open and, you know, able to get along with everybody. Because here's hoping that. Wow. That's kind of cool. And so. And the savings along the way. Right. Like the hospitality of people is like.

39:27 So if I had said guests, you know, at my house, they wouldn't pay for meals. They wouldn't pay for lodging. Right, right. For a couple of days. And their company would be my compensation. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's incumbent upon you to be exciting and engaging. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, all the different ideologies, all the different right ideas and points of view and lifestyles.

39:49 The encounter would be pretty, pretty fascinating. It would be mind expanding to the degree. And he, he was saying, you know, he was traveling. He said the split was probably like 70, 30. He was traveling like 70% of the time on the company's dime. Oh, wow. 30% of the time he was couchsurfing. Wow. So it's like, that's long enough.

40:09 And if you know enough people, you know, every few months you show up at someone's house. Yeah, that's that's pretty exciting. The idea of it, it's like, like backpacking through Europe, but with resources. But domestically. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But your stops all include people with resources. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I'm sure he was buying people mills down then or doing this or that with them or whatever.

40:32 You know, you're not just staying at hostels with, you know, meth heads. Right. And having to guard your meager resources, you know, you're you're not like, staying at a hostel with a, you know, college dropout. That's, that's a, you know, determined to become the next chess champion, but only has like a 2200 rating. You know, it's like, wow, that you beat in the lobby.

40:53 Chris, this sounds personal. I don't know. Yeah. That you that you haven't played chess in six months, that you defeated in the lobby, you know, playing the black pieces. You'll have to tell us the entire story. Sometimes it is a story, of course.

41:09 But anyway, that's. Yeah, it is too long and for today's. But, so I guess at this point, because we've deferred the topic of, hyper violence so long, we'll just kind of keep it deferred, because where we're going right now is more interesting, actually, for the moment. Could you imagine how could you imagine how genius it would be if all these sounds of what's happening around us were just dubbed in?

41:35 We're sitting in the studio and all of this, including all these sidebars. It's all scripted, all of it. Yeah, everything. And we're just sitting in the studio. This is all fake. And all the stuff that we're talking about was scripted into dance. Damn. Like even all the crazy meandering of, you know, ideas and they're going back like, it's literally in our outline.

41:55 Wow. And we're sitting here looking at pieces of paper. Yep. You'll hear us occasionally. Yeah. No, you don't hear it. You know you don't hear it. That's the thing. You know, we're that good. Yeah. And, Well, we don't even shuffle pieces of paper. We have ourselves a digital teleprompter application that we created for this. That's right. With a silent keyboard and everything.

42:14 So, like, there's no clacking of keys as we scroll and. Right. Could you imagine? Right. Like how clever we'd be. Yeah. And then now we're sitting here like, fourth walling the whole fucking thing, but then we're laughing about it and saying, oh, of course we're not doing that. Could you imagine? It's like genius. That'd be genius. It would be awesome.

42:33 If only. Yeah, our listener base would be huge. It would. It would. Watch out, Joe Rogan, here we come. We coming for you neck. And, we're gonna get thee. I would have I would have Donald Trump on our podcast. Oh, I totally would. I'd have one. Not for the not for the audience, but to double entendre his ass the whole entire time.

42:57 Like. Come on. Why has anybody done that yet? Oh, why hasn't anybody done that yet? It's brilliant. I agree with him. But pivoted in such a way that he looks like a dumb ass the entire time. Oh my gosh, get him to agree to things. That's ridiculous. Like, get him to agree to, like, you know, the mind tricking the whole time.

43:15 I bet you could even make a fake sector of Christianity. He wouldn't know. And you could espouse these weird tenants like, hey, we walk around with half a half a loaf of bread on our heads and shit like that. You anything? Yeah. Like, you know, because because have him take a picture like that, dude. Yeah. So the January 6th committee has revealed that, like, circling in the deep depths of the white House was that YouTube video that we talked about with the guy talking about the Italian satellite and beaming changing votes, and I was circulating, really?

43:44 And he was like, asking the Justice Department to look into this. What the fuck? Yeah. Like that made it to his to the president's fucking desk computer. Such a fucking moron. And should die. Yeah. So like, that shows you though the opportunity. It does. Like, if you were to have him as a guest now, we'll never have him as a guest.

44:02 Because even if we got super popular. Because we just ruined it now with this. But, but, but I would edit this part out to then have him as a guest, you know, let's edit this part out.

44:14 I would love to do that. That'd be like the crown jewel of my life. You know, you have a man and saying, we've uncovered all this stuff that's, you know, that that proves that you're the you know that that you want. Yeah. Look at all this evidence. And it's all just fuckery from that we found across the internet or stuff.

44:31 We just wholly made up. You know, we'll send it to Rudy. We'll send it to Rudy, dude. Dude, that's what we should do. We should totally make up a bunch of shit and just spam all of his supporters.

44:44 Well, see now. Okay, you're right, we should. But there's one small way outside possibility of why we shouldn't. Because it might catch fire. Yeah, and it might actually lead to, like, a revolution in their country, right? We could be responsible for the next January 6th or worse. Right? Or worse, we could be responsible for an actual coup, not a failed one.

45:05 Could you imagine? Like positively petitioning podcast like, becomes the greatest. QAnon becomes the new Q just because we wanted to be stupid trolls? Yes. By trolling, we become the new Q well, he was Q9 was trolling begin with. Right, right. And I really do think that's what it was. I really think it started out as absolute trolling and then it got to life.

45:28 Dude, I can come up with a much bigger, much bigger conspiracy doozies than the whole idea of an Italian satellite beaming changing boats or 5G cell towers, beaming disease, 5G cell towers. They're like causing people at the last minute to be their minds are manipulated when they go to vote. That's it, that's it. So like they, they they reach for to tap Donald Trump.

45:53 But their finger hits Biden because of it. Because hell yeah, the mind control. Nobody voted for Biden. It was it was all mind control. Wow. Are you kidding me? It's AT&T and Verizon you can find and you can find that shit online. I'm sure you can find someone online. I'm sure professing such things you're probably right with, like, what looks like data behind it.

46:17 Oh, well, okay. So I feel like I can make that data. What we would have to do, I think, is not only would we have to build the house of cards, we'd have to have the secret to cause it all to tumble down. Dude, we? Yeah, dude, we start off by, like, saying, like doing a podcast where. Yeah, dude, I'm telling you, I've seen the light.

46:36 Like, I was huge against Trump until I fucking found this information, man. I'm telling you, this is the real deal. Wow. Right. Like, yeah, you know me. You know how rational I am. You know how logical I am. You guys have listened to 30 plus podcasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm the ultimate skeptic, right? There's, like, very few people that are more of a skeptic than me.

46:56 Dude, this is for real. So what's the thing that would cause it all to fall and trap everyone inside who dared to enter? Oh, jeez. Obviously. Obviously based about data like false data, but data. Right? And, you know, so that so that you can actually start to bring in some, some pseudo intellectuals, maybe create a situation kind of like, what was that?

47:19 What was that thing the company with Facebook that orchestrated the, oh, Cambridge Analytica, Cambridge Analytica, Analytica, Analytica. Yeah. Cambridge Analytica. So Cambridge create a Camberley Analytica style thing and then blow it all up. Yeah, dude. Absolutely make everybody complicit and absolutely tied to it. Undeniable. Have all the undeniable. That's right. Send it to all. I mean, do a data dump, like, what's his name did to the Guardian?

47:53 Snowden. Snowden? Yeah. Like, would you like a Snowden Assange type thing, but completely fucking bullshit. Well, well, I'm saying I can spell when we bring the House of cards down. Yeah, we do that. Yeah. So we don't do the bullshit. That's the truth. When we do the data dump. Totally. And when we do the data dump, it's time.

48:11 It's recordings, it's emails. It's everything. So you start by, you know, doing what you need to do to to to go anonymous. Right. Yep. And then start putting this shit on all these channels showing like maybe even you type in an IP address you don't even type in, right? Sure. Like you get the information and then, you know, this was this was found through a hack of government server.

48:34 Right? Right. And you show something like go buster or something going through all the, you know, trolling a URL and looking for a valid URL or something or something scrolling by the screen, like, like James Comey was so mad that he got audited by the by the IRS that he turned the FBI against Trump. Yeah, really, there has to be some truth in in the lie.

48:57 I mean, come on. The right, you know. All right. So the truth is totally trained to lie and and that's what we agree on. That's why I told you to truth. And that's what we agree on, that those conspiracy theories didn't seem to have anything grounding them. Right. So we want to make something that's grounded. We make conspiracy theory with brains.

49:14 Yes. Could you imagine? I'd love, like, a misinformation campaign inevitably just to. And we come on and we collect hundreds of terabytes of data. Everybody that's involved, anything that happens, we collect it. There's got to be so much shit source there that, like, nobody can, you know, smell anything other than that, right? Right. It's got to be like, you know, we are just we flood them with data and we give them a nice permuted index of said data.

49:42 Exactly. There's so much Santorum there that, you know, no one can smell anything else. There's the throwback, dude. We call it the Santorum. The Santorum data don't. And Santorum had something to do with the leak. Yeah, with the leak. With the leak? Yeah. Because of the leak? Because they knew what was the it was the anal froth. Yeah.

50:02 Yeah, yeah. From anal sex. It's called a Santorum now. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Dude, that'd be epic. And say Santorum was responsible for this leak.

50:15 Oh, shit. That's hilarious. Dude, we we could do this. We could do this. Oh, my God, if if anyone if we have a listener out there that's fucking wealthy and wants to have some fun, well, give us a call. So we could do this as our day job for the next four months. We promise we won't waste your money.

50:34 Right. We will provide results, and we can provide results and weekly reports even. Yeah, we have daily. We have daily scrums, daily scrum stand ups. We run this whole thing agile.

50:51 We're in, like, four day sprints to get this thing done. Yep. That's right. We make the Steele dossier look like. Yeah, like like the Unabomber manifesto.

51:08 So you know the core at all. This thing really? Is that what you know, the Trump administration was doing was it was like trying to put things into the economy so that the working people could actually, you know, get ahead. Finally. Yeah, right. And so Trump was going to drain the swamp and tear it all down. Right, right, right.

51:24 And so all the corporations and the businesses that be and the powers that be couldn't have that, right. They need to keep the working man down. That's right. That's why Trump failed. Yeah, that's why he feels so. That started the whole thing, right? Holy shit. Yeah. So then like, you get every, you know Joe working man, right? Yep.

51:43 Saying. Yeah, I knew it, I knew it. He was for me. We know what we know. We have it right when Joe Rogan starts parroting it, you know? Totally. Yeah, totally. Or, you know, insert person here. Right. You know, or it's like on the news. Yeah. A new theory explains. Yeah. Right, right. You know, you know, Fox would just, like, maybe help us make this shit, right?

52:09 Dude, can you imagine that? But when the other was on Fox, tongue in cheek and feeling all that well, you're behind the. You're like just a silhouette. Know when you're explaining her. So we're we're deep throat it. Yeah. Totally smoking while we're doing it. But we're not smokers. Throw everybody off.

52:30 Let's just edit it in. Yeah, yeah, we ended it in the smoke. Like the Smoking Man from next. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm talking about. And they alluded to him having been the informant named Deep Throat. Oh, well, you know, you gotta add in a little bit of crazy. Yes. But you don't want to go too far with that because this has to become the new one that emerges.

52:49 Right, right. But we've got a we've got a tie. I mean, surely we can give ourselves some conspiracy theory. Correct? Yeah. And so, like, you know, the whole wall idea was just designed specifically to keep, foreign labor out of our markets, right, so that there'd be more jobs available to the working man. And due to automation and advance in AI is an interesting funnel cake RV.

53:13 I don't think I'd eat a funnel cake from that one. No, I don't don't like hepatitis in my and my phone. Okay. It looks a little freaky. Yeah, I don't know if he changes the oil in that thing and in the in the vat in the fryer. And, you know, there's a high chance the guy might be on heroin or.

53:32 Oh, okay, so you got the you have the best cake you've ever had. That because we've agreed it's laced with something that you didn't know how much you liked. Right, right. Besides saturated fat. Oh, no. Oh, this is it. We know we're in the best area ever. We've got the funnel cake, RV and camel carpet cleaning. Yep yep yep.

53:52 Right next to each other. You have everything you need for a complete life. Right on this block.

53:59 When you're so. When you're so high and fucked up on the funnel cake. That you spill everything on your carpet, including your own urine and feces. And Santorum, you're a you call it the camel tone when you've Santorum all over the House. Yeah. Camel toe to the rescue.

54:15 Camel toes. The answer dude. We should call them with that marketing campaign. Do you want to join our Santorum conspiracy? Trump early one. He did, I knew it. Yeah, dude. Awesome, right? And so like next level this shit to like beyond what all the media hubs are doing. Right. Like next level make people come to this information as if they discovered it.

54:40 Yeah, right. Or make people come to the conclusions because they're their conclusions. So it's like, you know, you say one plus two equals and they go three. There's three. I knew it. Like, how could it be anything but three? Oh look, you see one and two right here. Yeah. And so you, like, just make people draw the conclusion.

55:00 You don't have to even draw the conclusion. But you make it so facile, so simple. Dude, you know how many people would say, look, just look at this. Just just put it together. Just put it together. Actually, that might not work.

55:15 One plus two is 17. It's 12 34.5. Write it down on piece of paper. One and 212.

55:25 We automatically go to the redneck on the right. Oh, shit. Well, that's what we know, you know. Yeah. And and so this whole Rovi Wade really like Comey. Barrett didn't want to do that. Right? Yeah. That was all just a media bullshit. Like they were forced because they were forced to do this because what they're doing is they're, the whole thing was just a plot by the Democrats to get more Democratic voters.

55:48 Oh, because this this disenfranchized poor people. Right. So Democrats are just using it. So, hey, you think I mean, that's an angle coming on. Hasn't gone really openly speaking about how these poor rednecks are disenfranchized openly speaking. Yeah. And how the. And so what Trump is trying to do is empower them. Right. Yeah. Trump was trying to make sure they have high paying jobs and, you know, job security and bring back your factory job.

56:18 That was part of making America great again. And so the establishment they can't have that. They can't have that. So they've done all the they've done all these things. Yeah. It does. It smells delicious. So, so or like a, like a, like a expensive closet, right. Yeah.

56:36 There were even describing smells within our podcast, non-scripted non-scripted podcast. We came this idea about Trump spontaneously. When we walked by, we walked by something that may have been a juniper tree. Maybe, maybe, maybe it was some kind of fragrant, delicious smelling tree. Don't reverse image search the image that we put up there. Yeah, yeah. This is so awesome.

57:03 I love the fact that we're creating a conspiracy theory about our own podcast, that it's all thing to to launch a new conspiracy theory, which then only brings Trump on our podcast, which then only so that we can double entendre him and reveal the truth. This podcast will only be up for one week. Then we'll be burned.

57:22 Wayback machine ain't gonna work. I'm gonna throw my own fucking server, bitches. Oh, there we go.

57:29 Oh, is it being indexed on the Internet Archive? Hell if it's not. I'm about to go on there today. Our podcast. Yeah, dude, we can even upper. We can even upload it to the archive, too. They take files. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'll, I'll check that out. Cool. Yeah. So, you know, continuing on with the idea, right, is, don't forget, we have the technological ability to spin up any number of websites.

57:59 Resources. Right. Right. That then are taken down. Right. Yep. Come on. It's too easy with our with our skill set. Just to easy. Oh, man. And come on, I can use the tour network. You can, you know, and so can you. I can purchase a domain anonymously. So can you. Dot onion. Yeah. Dot onion or even a just a visa prepaid card.

58:28 Yeah. And my name is, you know, insert my my name for all this here. Right. Has to have some kind of, pun behind it, obviously. Right. Has to tie in, but not to like anybody even remotely. Obviously, it has to be make maybe like not just a play on words but like a numeric thing. So when you add up the letters and shit, you know, it says something like schism, perhaps my name for all this chubby schism.

59:02 And you got it. So your name shall be schism because you like tool and some and some lyric therein. Right. As part of the name. Right. So. Yeah. Encoded. Encoded. Oh, oh I came across something on a.com where they have their own podcast, and they ended up using an ancient, data. Interchange format, Kansas City standard for data interchange on tapes.

59:31 And they appended it to the end of their podcast to include a secret message to. Easy. Right. Right. Yeah, but I thought that was really cool. Oh, and maybe we can use it for a conspiracy theory. We could use it for that. Or we can add something similar to ours, because I do that stuff already. Not to our existing podcasts, but to other things.

59:50 Yeah. Okay, so you do some data hiding. Dude, I include stuff all the time. I encode and hide dust all the time. Like, if you ever get a card for me, like a birthday card. Yeah, there's something there. Oh, nice. 100%. Like, open the card. Like the the two pieces of paper that are stuck together. Open that shit.

1:00:09 There's something in there that's so cool. Almost 100% of the time. Like 95% of the time I do this. And a majority of the time, no one ever knows it. Nice. You can go back and collect correspondence that I've given to people over the course of my life and find a whole nother realm of of information that you didn't know.

1:00:29 That is so cool. I've been doing it forever. All right. So you're skilled in manual? The art of data hiding? Absolutely. Oh, the, Yeah. Like, inside the spine of the card. Might be something like, like a rolled up piece of paper. Maybe standing there, or maybe just some some stuff written in there. All right, all right. I like it.

1:00:52 You know, like, a poem or some some small quote that I found or something interesting. It's just something personal. The in extra. That's awesome. Yeah. Like, it could be anti as well. It could be negative as well. Like. You know the boss that's an asshole is retiring. And inside the the the inside the bound portion of the of the card.

1:01:16 You know it says something like, my congratulations was sincere, but I didn't really write exactly what it meant because I didn't know how to spell riddance. Yeah. That's great. Absolutely. And the guy that I wrote that card to, you might now go and open that card.

1:01:37 If he. If he's one of our listeners. So great. And find a really big surprise if he kept all of his retirement. All right. I hope he did. And, Yeah, it goes way deeper than that. Like, hacking Ldap to put in funny pictures of people are.

1:01:56 Yeah. And, just make their teeth yellow. Like, it's the picture. It's the actual death picture. But if it. Yep. I photoshopped it with, like, five shades of more yellow teeth. That's great. And then repost it, and nobody ever fucking knows. That's hilarious. But the guy's teeth look fucked up. Oh, man. It's like over 90 became British. No offense to British people.

1:02:18 I'm just fucking around. He. Yeah. He gets picked for language arts project at the. Nobody knows why the AI algorithm picked him for the language arts. For the British to be the British ambassador. Because I had his picture and made his teeth fuck up, dude. Yeah, the AI is like British people. He can relate. People grounded in British culture have bad teeth.

1:02:40 So, yeah, it's like the, The people don't know why the how the AI is figuring out that that canine type thing is a wolf, right? And so they asked the AI like, why? Why is that a wolf? Because there's snow in the background. Remember we talked about it. Yeah. So did I tell you because there's snow in the background.

1:02:59 I, Wells Fargo has had like, a set of AI things with MIT and Stanford. And the guy who was behind that, that whole thing was was there. I gave you the, information, like, late, but I was like, dude, he's. We just talked about this shit, and he's here and he's talking about it right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:03:21 That's like my experience when the AI figured out right away that death cures all disease. So fucking crazy. Not then to be an agenda, to go kill everybody in the planet just figures out that that reality. This is the ultimate cure. I mean, who can deny that? That's true. Yeah, I mean, it. Did it. The goal. Hey, man, you know the data.

1:03:41 Anecdotally, in real life is the same, right? Like, so it matches reality perfectly. Oh, yeah. Like, when someone dies, you no longer assume that they have it be hilarious. If it was like, well, okay, job's done. Wipe my hands of it. All right, I'm going to kill myself. Hey, I did what's be honest. That's like. Like, some people make that conclusion in their real life.

1:04:01 It's called suicide. Yep. They say there's nothing here for me. Right? Then. Then to to cure this illness that I have, which is just can't find any kind of happiness in this world, right? I'm going to leave it. Yeah, because it cures my disease. And, you know, I can't. I can't deny that perspective, you know? And when my mother went through her cancer, when she.

1:04:22 Everybody was relieved when she died because she was no longer suffering. And, you know, I was left with this, like, gutted feeling of like, God, how did we why did we force her to, to to live so much longer? Yeah. When we could have had a great celebration, when she was cogent and had her take his drug cocktail and slip away.

1:04:41 Right. You know, they save her pain, her pretty good. All right. How are you? Oh, yeah. You too, man. Yeah. So we're like, she could, you know, leave with some type of faculty, you know, still intact. And she's also participate in the in the decision, you know, like, my gosh. Anyway, anyway, that's a whole. Yeah. It's off topic.

1:05:07 I mean, you gotta check your, Shut your put your phone on silent because people know we're in the studio. Oh, no. So the reason my phone is not on silent today is because my girlfriend is on, was flying, and I wanted to make sure she was good and. Okay. No, it was just a joke. You make your phone do whatever you want.

1:05:24 Oh.

1:05:27 Yes. Yes, we are in the studio. Guys, this bus that's about to come by totally sourced the sound somewhere else. Yeah, we're sitting there at the equalizer board. Like putting up the volume of the sound as it approaches. Like to make it sound like it's frozen. Yeah. We're trying to do a perfect Doppler effect, so forgive us if we don't pull it off.

1:05:44 Oh, no, that's just sliding the left right channel. That's easy. I mean, wait, how do you do that? Yeah, of course we don't know how to do that. Nervous laughter. It's going to be hard when we're if we ever do dude episode in the studio to like, you know, get all these sounds in there like it never could be this good.

1:06:04 It's not possible. But fidelity of our, you know, my squeaky shoes, the bird chirps. The fidelity of this cast is way. No way. It's not possible. Right? Just just don't take any of the audio. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if we start a service that adds Ambient Noise podcast. We have enough of it recorded. And you know what else we could do is, you know, we could not tell people to, like, use software that removes the audio channel.

1:06:30 Yeah, the audio, the audio channel. And then try to do a search for the for the remaining audio clip online. And, and don't look for a stock sound. Right. Because, you know, they might match up with something. I think at this point we had people probably wondering like are they in the studio? Right? Yeah, she's either double entendres or where it's at.

1:06:56 Right? Yeah, I really do. I think this that's that's how state of confusion and hilarity is where we want to be. And and that's how you get Trump. That's how you get them. You just do this layered right. So like you're going along with the conspiracy theories that you made up by supporting evidence that you find in reality.

1:07:15 Right? Yeah. So you take the take the complete bullshit sandwich. Okay. Which, of course is made from two truths with some with some complete shit in the middle, some Santorum in the middle. And what you do with that is you some frothy, frothy Santorum. Yes. So then what you do is you continue to sell the bullshit in the middle by they got a door now.

1:07:37 Oh, we're watching this place above. Wow. So what you do, Sean? Really like this is the genius. Okay? Is you bolster the shit in the middle by pointing to to the truth of the outside stuff of the bread. You're like. These two things are true, though there are only tangentially related at best, right? They're true. Right. Since since this thing is being sold as a package.

1:08:02 Right. So it's it's completely a triple decker Santorum sandwich. Yes. But you have in the very we have on the outside is completely something solid and true. Right then in the middle gets in the middle. You have this conspiracy theory nonsense and we're going to have multiple layers. Tight end is what I'm saying. That's right, that's right, that's right.

1:08:23 Because in the middle there's going to be some more truth. And then then there's going to be more frothy Santorum then more true. Yeah. From from a big picture's perspective, what you really do have is you have a truth sandwich, right? Something something true in bulk, in the middle of something you're conspiracy. And then the outside truth. Right.

1:08:41 And the other piece of bread is another truth sandwich, right? Yeah. And then what you do, though, is that what you. Keep the conversation on the bread, on the bread, not the fluffer nutter Santorum in the middle. Okay. Yes. There'll be a link to fluff if you go to the web page anyway, there'll be a link to Fluff and Santorum.

1:09:04 Yeah. I don't know about what people do their own, you know, Google search, Urban Dictionary, y'all. Yeah. Okay. Here's like a great example of this in a comic in a comedic way, right? Yeah. There's this guy on TikTok that said, guys, they the CDC just just announced that the transmission transmission for Covid isn't just airborne, right? There was there was this group of girls, right.

1:09:32 There's these two girls that, there's two girls at school that that, shared a drink with a with another person that was Covid positive, and they both got Covid, but they had no direct airborne contact with them. The person they had left their drink behind. Right. And if you if you want to find the if you want to learn more about this, just Google two girls one cup.

1:09:58 We got gotta try and all the classics like no new waffles. Yeah right. But do you see. Yeah. Like so he's totally within the guidelines of of a TikTok. Right. And you know what people are going to do. Oh Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. You know and it's for all the and the thing is TikTok. Right. It's so old that people forgotten mostly.

1:10:22 Yeah. And then also the new people don't the younger people don't have that yet. What about go see. That's one of the best. Well, you're the master. You know, all this stuff, but you know I am not. I'm just saying I think it's between the two. I think you know a lot more about it than I do. We.

1:10:37 I think we could, but I think we could team up. Maybe both of us don't know how much we really know about all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, but that's how see, that's that's the trick, you see. Like that's the, that's that's the, that's the way you double entendre, the whole conspiracy theory thing that we're talking about. Right?

1:10:55 Right. Truth shit truth shit truth shit. Yes. But the truth shit stack. Yes, but the the the shit is the Vegas, right? Which no one can validate one way or the other. Right, right, right. It's like, it's like saying. You know, some would say, like newscast, right? Yeah. Newscasts all the time. Like some would say blah, blah, blah.

1:11:16 And that's what Trump does. That's exactly what Trump does. Well, like Fox News is notorious for. Well, yeah. But Trump does the same thing some would say or people have said people are talking about I get all I get all the time. I get all the support email and say all the time I get and then ten times the volume of go fuck yourself.

1:11:33 You can't. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah. It's like, please throw yourself in a wood chipper. Or maybe it's like that South South Park episode where they have Butters censoring all of Cartman's, things because he doesn't want to have any negative. You ever seen that episode? No. So, like, you know, Cartman's on social media, and most of the people are just saying, you know, go kill yourself.

1:11:53 Don't fucking fat, right. And stuff like this. Right. And he can't take it. And so he's saying that it's his right, right to like have this information filtered center. And so the guidance counselor agrees and puts Butters on the on the task of filtering out all the negative, all the negativity. Well, what happens is that butter starts turning into like, this monster because all he's seeing is negativity so much, right?

1:12:15 Like and so it works so well for Cartman. They decided to start doing it for other people's like Steven Seagal. Yeah.

1:12:25 So Steven Seagal, he's using Butters to then filter out all the negative comments online and then only take the positive comments, print them out, and give them to Steven Seagal. That's so funny.

1:12:39 Epic, right? But but here's what we do is what we can do is then take the vagaries. That's right. There's a there's an obvious layer here, right? Yeah. We're off to skate and heavily. And that's how you mask the the Santorum Center. Yes. So through obfuscation, skillful misdirection, truth, creation, truth, creativity, creativity, diabolic genius, evil genius, diabolic genius.

1:13:05 Yeah, that normally is goes untapped, right? Unless you had it there on purpose. Right. You know, the the the evil genius between us that that goes, untapped, unfortunately. Because that's like, in our normal lives, that's not appropriate. You can't use it. So this, this like, allows us to explore that aspect of our personality. All for a good cause.

1:13:25 This is all just white hat, hacking people. White hat, white hat. This is this is social engineering elevated, y'all. This is 2600 plus. Yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it. Like premium. Yeah. And man. And then after we pull it off we can make online courses about it. We get hired like adjunct professor at Harvard.

1:13:52 Teaching teaching social media and modern media manipulation class. Modern media and manipulation like misinformation like how how it works is affect on society. Yeah. And it's like the case study for this class is something we actually did.

1:14:07 So so like also at the same time, the whole entire thing is just a plug for our podcast. Like at the end of the day, like when the curtain gets finally fully pulled back, we just wanted 50,000 listeners. That's it, that's it. Yeah. That's all we have 500,000. We created like a micro revolution. We tore down like, you know, we disrupted it.

1:14:27 Election, you know, what we wanted was no, see, we can't say that because now, now there's like data that, you know, this was not intentional. The collateral effects were intentional. Fucking crazy. Yeah. So Comey right. The IRS came down on Comey super hard with audits. Yeah, right. Did nothing. Nothing was there. But getting audited fucking sucks and is a major hardship.

1:14:48 Well Trump put his dogs on you know because remember he had falling out with Kobe yeah I do. And so he put his he put his put the henchmen on him and he and the other guy McCabe or whatever his name is got audited like hardcore by the IRS. Yeah. So like, see you tie that in to. Yeah.

1:15:05 And so what Comey did was he took the FBI and he coordinated it. Yeah. Right. Because even though he left the FBI, he still had all of his contacts. And that's how they undermined the election. Like that's see, we just put it together in this abstract way and then let the conspiracy theories they could self. That's the genius.

1:15:25 Yeah, yeah. And you give it a life of its own. And you.

1:15:30 I think you try to find the influencers and that can propagate it but also shape it. But the thing is, I feel like whoever Q was, they lost control of this thing pretty quick. Right? The another big problem is that anybody could be killed, quote unquote. Right, right. So that we don't do that, don't make that mistake. There's there's an Oracle source.

1:15:53 How do we maintain control and be the single point of information? Well, the first step that you do is you make people have to have a password that that of course, is shared. And it's probably something like password. Yeah. Right. Right I have it I hacked it. See. Like you make people think they came to the information like they, they they hacked the information.

1:16:15 Oh, shit. Right. They found the password right on this obscure site. And they went to this other site, and they put in the password and. No shit. There's that government document. Damn. It's so easy. Damn. So we create almost like a mock, a CT, capture the flag exercise. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Perfect way to say. Yeah. Exactly like like a like a mystery.

1:16:38 That is, like, so stupid. Easy to unsolved to solve that. Like, anybody can solve it. But then the Dunning-Kruger effect kicks in, and they believe that they solved it because of their genius, not because they're like, you could just stumble into it, right? Yes. And then you ever seen The Fifth Element movie? I've seen that, you know, so like they reconstruct the being from DNA fragment.

1:16:59 Okay. Right. So like the entire like, that's the building blocks for life anyway, but like, you know, so in theory, in theory, you could be reconstructed from just some of your DNA, right? Yeah. Everything that makes you use in your DNA except for, like, your life experiences. Sure, sure. Right. Absolutely. But in the case of the Fifth Element, the DNA was so complex, it has the experiences encoded in it as well.

1:17:22 Right. That experimental information, it had it it was a live encoding of the experience. Yeah. But the being and the experiences that go with it. And so then when they all they needed when she died was just a fragment to reproduce not only the being plus but the and the experiences. So what you do is you just encode this thing like that.

1:17:44 So where all the conclusions are drawn naturally from the information, like I said, the one plus two equals three thing. Right. And then that combined with like I found I hacked this password and like, you know, people didn't think I uncovered this. Right. And think of the motivation that someone had believed that they had covered something. We made something like this to.

1:18:03 We could use it to, you know, teach Nina the basics of, you know, finding out information of. Absolutely. It's just a learning tool at the end of the day. Yeah. And a plug for our podcast on that note. Have a good one. Jesus. Not we're going to.