Versions of Hyper Violence & Feminine Revolt

0:00 Now that Shinzo Abe assassination, just, like in general, how our society is completely, you know, I don't know, like a numb to hyper violence, right? It's like, the the portrayal of violence through all these different channels, you know, like, you get to imagine, for example, something like Game of Thrones will definitely be Dahmer.

0:23 Game of Thrones. Okay. Yeah. But going back to the abortion debate, you know, this idea that, like, if the women were to collectively decide, you know what? We're we're tired of this, misogynistic doctrine that's been imposed on us for all these years. And now it's creeping back up through the legislation and really turning the screw on.

0:43 Let's be honest, poor women. Yeah. You know, abortion is still legal for everybody in the country with money, right? You know, that's the part I never really hear much in the debate. But, you know, that's the reality. And, you know, because if you have money, you can do things like order, order pills from, this Dutch doctor.

1:06 That's. I heard about that. Yeah. You know, here for like, four years, right? Or you if you have money, you can travel to Indiana from Ohio or whatever, right? Yeah. I mean, it's always been that way. Or even if it were a nationwide ban. Leave the country. Yeah, yeah. Have a flight, have a medical flight, quote unquote. Right.

1:27 Yeah. A medical flight to Canada or something. Right. So let's be honest. This is just this whole thing, literally just this is turning the screw on for people, for women specifically. You know, that's what we're going to do in this country. Yeah. It's and and let's be honest too, I mean, having a kid when you can't afford to have a kid is financially crippling.

1:49 And all the, all the, all the like, downstream effects, you know, that come with that as well. Yeah. Oh my gosh. What are we doing here? I mean the one the the flagship situation. We keep bringing it up is, you know, the ten year old girl in Ohio who was raped and then. Oh, yeah, you know, had to go to Indiana, but she could go to Indiana.

2:14 She was able to, you know, and that's a terrible, terrible situation. I know something I came across that I thought was interesting. There was a guy who was born eight months after ro was, brought in, as, as well. And he was saying he wished his mother had actually had the choice to abort. Oh, wow. And the reason being, he was talking about he grew up.

2:48 He was, he was adopted by a Catholic family who were missionaries. And, he was often put up as a poster child. Hey, he feels like his parents adopted him, you know, as a former protest. Oh, and he, he spent his life around priests and nuns, and, you know, everyone was like, aren't you glad you were spared from abortion?

3:14 You know? Oh, what the hell. Yeah. And so he's just talking about how the kind of, psychological impact that had and, he is an advocate now for, family planning and choice and all of those things. Wow. How strange. And, he helps run an organization that does that. But he said, you know, if my mom had had that, apparently his mother, he found out.

3:40 So they lied to him and told him that his mother was a 16 year old girl who, had him out of wedlock when really, his mother had him within wedlock, but was about to leave her husband and had four other children. Oh my goodness. And so she chose to give him up for adoption because she's like, I've already got four kids I'm going to have to support on my own.

4:02 I don't know if I could do five.

4:05 How do you do for my kid? Right. And she was affiliated with numerous, religious charities, which is how the missionaries adopted, adopted him. And they basically encouraged her to adopt, you know, rather than a back alley abortion. What a strange thing. Like some institution making you the poster child. Yeah, the entire abortion isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's that's weird.

4:30 And so he's like, hey, you know, I would have avoided I would have avoided all that. He goes. Now, I wouldn't have known about it because I wouldn't have existed. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think there's really something to this kind of like, not just, pro-life as a synonym for anti-abortion, but pro-life as a life stance. Across the board.

4:50 I mean, if you know this, you know, the the people on the left are like, you know, automatically, you know, God, it's, oh, if you're pro-life, why are you in favor of war? You know, that's just that's such a dumb argument, to be honest with you. Because let's be honest. Who's in favor of war? Really? Everyone knows. You know, if you're if you're even, like, you know, somewhat conscious, you know, everyone knows that pro-life just means anti-abortion.

5:14 Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't mean anti-war. Yeah, yeah, but how cool would it be if if you did have a movement where. Because that would, that would kind of transcend party, you know, that was pro-life in the truest of sense that really was about extending that social safety net, that really was about supporting people in their pursuit of happiness and all those things that are delineated in the Constitution.

5:37 That's right. As an ideology slash life stance, you know, and then, ironically, what that does is it brings abortion back to the whole. Abortion, for all intents and purposes, becomes a very pro-life, thing for for people not like this ten year old girl in Ohio. Yes. I think, and, you know, you have to I think Buttigieg, you know, made a pretty decent, idea about when he was, kind of some some, whatever it was, you know, journalists was trying to get, like, a gotcha moment on him, you know, making him try to defend late term abortion.

6:15 Okay? Okay. Yeah. And I mean, he's he was pointing out that these, the ones that do occur are, like, extremely rare, proportionately, you know, and they're, they're always very extreme. He went to the statistics and said, this is a rare thing. Yeah. Like the typical person doesn't just say, hey, you know, there's a reason why somebody's making a decision with their physician and with their, you know, he said with, with their clergy member, with their spiritual guide or, you know, whoever giving them spiritual guidance and their doctor saying it's a holistic life decision.

6:49 It's not just off the cuff, let me abort this baby. The Bible outside the womb. Yeah. Like, I'm not feeling this anymore, you know, type thing. Yeah. You know, you know, he he made a it was almost like he had a bit of a prick and response to it, but that's okay. How are you, dude? I mean, it was emotionally impactful.

7:05 Okay. Wouldn't you have prepared for that one yourself? Yeah, I would have prepared for that one. Yeah. I mean, if I was a politician, I would I would dodge the question because I would say, you know, the first of all, the statistics are point out that what you're saying is an extremely rare thing. And in the in the case of those rare cases, we have to get down into the details of each one.

7:24 And there's no time for that in a, in a, you know, in a quick news interview. Yep. Right. Yep. And in a way it's dodging. But in a way it's not. In a way it's saying, look, really what you're saying is not the issue. This is. Yeah, right. Right. Absolutely. So, you know, there's there's versions of violence in these things like built in, you know, so going back to the violence concept, you know, oh, we wanted to get out.

7:50 I wanted to get out first, like the idea behind, where the onus of this energy for this anti-abortion, for rolling back row really is coming from, and where it's coming from is, you know, radical Christian ideology. You know, of course, that's the source, of, of of all this change, this change, the row and all this stuff and the, the loading of the courts.

8:11 And, you know, the politicians are capitalizing on the single, single voter issue type stuff. Yeah. And, what's what's called pelvic politics. Oh, wow. I've not heard that term. So, you know, kind of energizing your base based on what people do with their pelvis. Right, right. Whether people, so the next energizing shot in the arm is, let's take care of those that they're gay people who do stuff with their pelvis in the house.

8:38 Right, right, right. So I feel like gay marriage, gay rights, abortion, female rights, female female autonomy over their reproductive rights, etcetera. All that's in the domain of quote unquote, pelvic politics. Right? Right. So, I think pelvic pelvic next morning is, is pretty, pretty funny, you know, clever. Yeah. A little moniker, they call it to, to block it.

9:02 All that stuff. Yeah. It's a nice place to bucket it all. It's a nice way to tie it in. I, I understood they were ideologically related, but I never really quite got the whole idea of, you know, we're really tying ourselves back to that puritanical ideal of everyone must have sex in missionary once, in, under a God approved area.

9:24 You know, I heard of what? I heard of one of these, like, Arab countries where they have, this really strict, you know, got to be married to have sex type thing. Yeah. And, like, these rich whatever princes or whatever, you know, really rich businessmen or whatever will go way to, like, this resort. And when they get there, they sign a marriage certificate.

9:43 Wow. And they, you know, do what they want to do. And then when they leave, they sign the divorce certificate. That's funny. So it's like, still completely good under eyes of God. Yeah, yeah. Got approved. God approves. Yeah. Guys up on the clouds looking down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did that. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. I'll see you soon.

10:06 But you're gonna get your virgins. Yeah, you're going to get your virgins. And, you know, I, I'm a fist bump your ass when you get up here. Yeah, yeah, that was fucking brilliant. That was just fucking clever. Beat me in my own game. Yeah, it was like God's loophole. Numbers 3,000,072. Devil's doorbell, God's loophole. All these fun, great words, great, great things this morning.

10:34 Well, I'm just saying, you know, if he's sitting up there cataloging them, you know, there's got to be a few million of God's loopholes when they say, oh, yeah, that's the first thing he's like instead of let there be light, it's like there, let there be, you know, really good legal work, any new nuance so that there's always, always a loophole.

10:53 Right? Right, right. Yeah. I mean, and that's the thing that's why I say this is these are these are definitely the traditions of man before space and time law. Was that, like legal? Legal, legal ease was the first, legal ease was the first joke of God. That's what it was. Let me create this thing that is Swiss cheese.

11:14 The, the actual first dimension of the universe. Yeah. Legally. Legally or. But. Yeah. You know, and I mean, that's why I say these are traditions of man. These are things that, you know, no omniscient being created, these precepts and laws and guidance, or they wouldn't be so hard to interpret and, you know, full of holes if someone if and if a God handed these down and wanted us to follow them, they I imagine they be a little more ironclad.

11:49 Yeah. So let's say let's say that you had this like, you know, wide swath of American women saying, look, this new change, this new change to Roe v Wade and all these states, that was trigger laws went to effect and, you know, blah, blah, blah. We all know what happened. You you know, if they look at that and they say, okay, on the whole what we see here is this all this really does is it is it is it, blocks abortion from, you know, a whole, a whole mess of poor women, right.

12:19 Let's just say. Yeah. And the women say, you know what? At the end of the day, it's this. It's this core ideology, right, of this misogynistic doctrine that is actually causing then now poor women to suffer. Yes. And, and have different rights than other non poor women. It's it's abuse up and down the economic strata. Right. But it didn't subvert you know, this misogynistic doctrine doesn't just affect this one thing.

12:50 But this is the easiest thing to hold up as a banner reign. Right. And let's start looking at rights through the lens of like, what the net effect of each person individual's rights really are like. For example, if you know, you got a pretty decent sum of money for prostitution, it's legal for you. You can just go to where prostitution is legal.

13:08 Yeah, and enjoy whatever you want to enjoy. Right? Just like the rich, you know, Arab sheiks or whatever, right? Like we were talking about that aggression. So if the legal, you know, loopholes are really, you know, create a different array of rights and privileges, right? Yeah. Based on how much cash you have. And that's exactly what we have here with abortion.

13:33 You know, the women with any kind of, family, you know, equity that gets into a situation and it's like, you know, the kind of broken, you know, the that, I'm going to have. Johnny. Yeah. That bad apple seeds, baby. Yeah. I'm pregnant with snakes, baby. Yeah. Oh, no, not snake wish anything worse than snake would be.

13:55 Blake. Like the president of new Republicans at the college. I'd be like, oh, shit. That's been, like, the only worst seed, that demon seed to have in the abdomen. Right? So you either you've got a few options, like you like you have so I think you're right. Your phrase is patented here. You have to say it. It takes you to say you got a about the rocking the demons.

14:16 Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. That's what we're saying that for the violence. Like they're but like like using violence. Regardless, we have to get rid of this demon seed. That's what we're trying to get at. Right, right, right, right. So if the family has resources and the young lady just is not going to have Snake or Blake's baby.

14:35 All right. And, and by the way, like the birth control failed, like, type situation. Yeah, yeah. The family, you know, let's say she was on birth control and he used a condom. I mean, hell, yeah. And then the father borrows from the for. Okay, or whatever, and the girl goes to Vermont or Massachusetts or, you know, one of these vacation delightfully liberal states.

14:59 Yeah, right. It's like legal and maybe even, you know, maybe there's an abortion resort. Yeah, yeah, maybe The Onion did a funny thing about that. But anyway, did they. Oh, hilarious. Oh, yeah. The onion did this. I love the onion. The onion did this, like, you know, Planned Parenthood, kind of outcry against type thing, saying how they created this new, like, $80 million megaplex was like a dance club.

15:24 And, you know, there's a there's this giant incinerator to, like, get rid of the fetuses. Like babies in bulk. Yeah. Bulk. Right. And there's like, testimonials of women saying, you know, I can't wait to get pregnant again so I can go back, you know? Anyway, the funny thing about this is some Republican senator, like, posted it like, in a tweet.

15:44 Oh, it was like, see the kind of stuff that the see the kind of stuff that's happening, and it's so great. Didn't realize it was an onion. Oh, if we have time, I have a couple of more of those type of things that I ran across that I archived on my phone this morning. What's that? You know, not the onion, but people falling for things that are clearly satire.

16:06 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like life. Yeah. Right. You know, there is no bigger satire. Like you have to laugh. Yeah. So the second, fundamental principle of the universe after like, is it's like fucking humor. Yeah, it's pervasive dark humor. Right. Is it is it absolutely. Every facet of the law of the universe? Well, yeah.

16:30 Like like, you know, God has to have, like, a rapist wit, you know, in order to, bestow the bestow some of the, you know, dark humor upon humanity, which, I mean, really? Yeah. To flood everybody out and, you know, Yep. Going to flood everybody out, like, drown them in the tub, basically. But, you know, but but now there's rainbows.

16:49 Yeah. And that's my joy. Enjoy. Enjoy this rainbow. After all of your friends, family and animals have died, right. And you know what? This is also symbolic of my promise to never do that again. I promise. Oh, it was worth it. Everyone I know and love is dead but rainbow and. Oh my God, you take care of these, multitude of animals or, you know, I mean, God, it would have had to have taken years for that water to recede.

17:24 Yeah. And. Right. And then. And then only for the, inevitably for the LGBTQ community to hijack the symbol. Yeah, well, that was the plan. Yeah, that was the plan. Oh, that was divine play at all. Yeah. That's good. That's the humor. Right, I love it. I love it. Yep. See, there's your dark sarcasm. Yeah. So that's that's tenant number two of, creation of the universe.

17:46 Pervasive dark sarcasm. Yeah. The second physical principle of the universe. You know, it's not space time. You know, no first one's legally stolen is. Yeah, right. It's that space time energy, right? Matter that legalize dark sarcasm slash dark humor. Yeah, yeah, we'll probably flesh this out throughout the course of this conversation. Like of the of the of the other dimensions that precede reality based on.

18:13 Yeah. Proceed our reality. Yeah. The very foundation. Yeah. So, I'm, I'm going to get it out. But this idea that like, hey, if these, you know, true Christian values, true Christians, right? Females, true Christian female, say, you know, what we're going to do? We're no longer going to turn the screw on poor people, on poor women.

18:32 And this misogynistic doctrine motherfucking bullshit that's also turning the screws on us, that's turning screws on us, and has been for, you know, 2000 years plus, you know, it's time. It's time for just like, you know, it's time. It's time to it's time to to stop. Right? And not show up at church. Stop showing up at church. Because if collectively, a mass majority of the women stop showing up at church, everything changes you.

19:02 You see Roe v Wade snap back to to law so fast, like it would be the fastest reversal of of anything you've ever seen if all of a sudden women stop showing up to church. So, trust me, that's exactly what happens if that triggered a mass exodus of Christianity from females that nothing would change faster, you know, Roe v back into effect, trying to a country that, women even walked out of domestic positions in the 50s, and now they have the greatest level of equality, measured objectively.

19:35 It's, Scandinavian country. Yeah. I mean, you don't have to boycott sex with your boyfriend or husband. Yeah. What you need to do is boycott the bullshit ideology that that underlying. Well, that's what this was. It was they walked out of jobs. They walked out of the house. They walked out of everything. Hey, maybe that's what it's going to take.

19:52 But, you know, good men shouldn't have to suffer. I mean, maybe, maybe the good men do, Say, you know what? It's worth it, right? Right. Maybe the good men say, okay. Yeah. You have what? You talk with your wife. You know, if you're a good man, you're going to know your wife's about to join this protest. Yep.

20:08 Yeah. And you're going to plan accordingly and to some extent be there protesting with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, you if you're a good, good person who wants to support this and your wife wants to support this, then you're going to figure it out. Yeah. So I really support this this idea for this movement by me not going to church myself on Sunday.

20:27 Oh yes. Yes. I also boycott church on Sundays, Wednesdays and any other day you guys feel like going. I boycott and advocate against any ideology that, you know, makes women a second class citizen or worse, damn right. Or property or you know, objectifying whatever, etc.. So, but the women, oh my God, the power. If they only knew.

20:51 Yep. Well, they know, but they're not exercising. Yeah, yeah. Okay. If they can only act on the power that they have here, I'm telling you what, it would change overnight because that's the exact thing, right? The idea is like, oh, we got to bring back Christian values. We got a right. Okay. Do we want to bring back Christian values?

21:09 No, that what that means is terrible, terrible things for, you know, rolling back rights for so many different. Right. And the thing is really it's they're pining. Nostalgia is pining for a time that never quite existed. That's what they're doing. Make America great again. What went yeah, exactly was at that point, you had all this bullshit. Exactly. You want to bring all that back to.

21:32 You know, we don't want to bring back these things that I mean, when we're talking about making America great again, what they're talking about really is curtailing rights up and down the spectrum here. We're talking about they want to the extreme version of this is bringing back Jim Crow laws. And, you know, going ahead and persecuting gay people and just saying the states rights.

21:56 Yeah. Yeah. Right. And it looks like they're espousing the extreme version, you know, everybody was debating like, oh, no, no, that's just too extreme. No, it looks like the extremes are in control right now. Well, that's the thing. Is that like that extreme gerrymandering for example, is just a it's just a, you know, another facet of kind of a Jim Crow idea.

22:15 It is because we all know those gay from voting. That's right. We all know at the end of the day, what the net effect of that extreme gerrymandering is. It's chilling to voting and things like, you know, requiring an ID and all of that. It's chilling to voting because they know these are hardships for people that don't have as much economic mobility just by changing anything, like putting a little nuance, any little wrinkle will then keep X number of people away, which then benefit.

22:45 Yeah. So like the extreme gerrymandering where like even a neighborhood is like carved out. Yeah. You know, like there's like a ring around the neighborhood. Or moving polling places by a mile or two. Right, right. So basically they're just using, dusting off the old, redlining maps. Yes. And using that for their use. But what they're doing now is backing it with statistics, not only with, yeah, massive computer algorithms, massive computer algorithms that are really determining the most efficient way to shut people out.

23:16 See, now, if someone wanted to hire me for a project to do that, it'd be like, I know you got to photo somewhere else, right? So that's a that's what I was talking about that time. Or maybe you do malicious compliance and it all blows up and you waste millions. What? Oh that's fraud. But hey, like, that's that's like whitehat.

23:34 That's like an extreme version of white hat. White cat hacking. It is. Right. It's like white hat business fuckery. And it is fraud. It is absolutely fraud. I'm not really advocating it, but it sounds hilarious. Be one hell of a thing like anti gerrymanders. Yeah, it like does the exact opposite of what the goal is, right? And it's not like there'd be that many people in the organization that could audit what you were doing anyway.

24:02 They don't have technical. Yeah, yeah yeah. So like the the readout is one way. But then what happens in reality it is the exact opposite. So the reports are exactly what they want. Yeah. Exactly. It tells them they want even though they want. You're projected to win by. Oh they go oh I see what happened here. That guy must have worked for Dominion for, for, whatever the Argentinean, you know, guy that was like.

24:30 Right. He sends the data up to a Italian satellite, which then changes votes. Yeah, yeah. What kind of crazy shit was that? The whole thing's crazy. Sorry. I'm just saying the whole thing is insane, but, like, you really does come across like they got high and drunk and came up with these theories. They don't make any sense. That's right.

24:51 That's Q anon. This group of people getting high and drunk like, oh man, that's really what it seems like because they don't like it's not a good old fashioned conspiracy theory where you can see a kernel of truth, right? There's like it's predicated upon stupidity and ignorance. Yes. And, the it has a level of unbelieve ability which then makes it credible and believable.

25:13 That's a good point. I never thought about it like that. The very fact that it's self-selecting, it's kind of like those fraud schemes from the Nigerian princes. Yeah, it's totally it's selects for the really dumb. Yeah. I mean, and if it was just, you know, such and such did this and it was something obvious, right, right. Then the people being like, I don't know, I'm skeptical about that.

25:35 But you make up this completely bizarre, like Pizzagate. Yeah, yeah. And the dude shows up with an AR 15. Yeah. Do you remember that? Yeah. He shows up at the pizza place, take the free the children to free the children in the basement that are being raped and recorded. Can you imagine? That's crazy. Oh, there's no basement at this point.

25:56 No. Or, like, whatever. Yeah, it's just somebody's imagination. Yeah. Just a fucking shitty pizza place. And like they're saying the logo means some pedophile thing, and you know, what the hell? Fucking crazy. You know, it's like every time you see an eyeball, you're like Illuminati. Wow. Like, okay, anytime there's any kind of image of an eye, like an icon or logo.

26:20 Is he all seeing the Illuminati? Yeah, right. Wow. Like, could you imagine?

26:28 Did you really imagine, like, if if there was, there really was such a pervasive thing? No. Like. Yeah, I mean, okay, like Diamond Dallas Page is, is signaling and you know, Jay-Z and you know, like, gosh, could you imagine? And you know, I mean, have you guys seen what DDP has been doing since he was a wrestler? I don't even know how that name came into my mind.

26:52 He has he he sells a yoga thing. He does yoga. Y'all know shit. Okay. See, this is like great for our links section. So we'll have the devil's doorbell. We'll have DDP. DDP. Yeah there. Just have you on the DS today. So it is interesting. I've heard lots of solutions to the abortion problem. Like I've heard a lot of like people putting forward solutions.

27:17 But the one thing I haven't heard people putting forward is, hey, it's time to have a mass exodus of the church right? I have not heard that solution, but guess what? I think that actually is the solution. It's a really good one. Is women saying nope, and the men saying we're going, we are going to remove the misogyny from this religion.

27:37 I love that, right? Like a, like a new, kind of cardinal college or whatever, like a new assembly of, you know, the big powers up in the, the top tiers of the religion whose hand basically are getting forced because, like, we just got gutted for 50% of our congregation, you know, universally across the board in America.

27:58 I mean, that would be so we got to come. We got to come together. And the thing is, I would think you might be able to start something like that if you talk to some of the people that are in those megachurches. Right. Because a lot of the people in the megachurches are on the more progressive side of this.

28:18 Imagine if Protestant pastors in the megachurches, when this shit, that's what I'm trying to say. Oh, that'd be dealt with. Does that make me want to show up after the hospital? I'd show up to the damn concert. Yeah, right. You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the Rock often. Yeah. 2022. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Sermon. Yeah. Right. Right.

28:43 I've been to a couple of them just to check them out. They'll tell you they are. They're interesting, but. And they're usually very careful about what they do tell you. They're usually fairly accurate on the Bible thing. So much so these days. Like instead of having, you know, tons of tulips and candles and draperies and, you know, crucifix, huge crucifix of Jesus up there.

29:08 Yeah, above the altar and pipe organ. Now it's drum kit or electric guitar, right? Yeah. It is that the new props of modern Christian? Oh, yeah. And, you know, to quote Hank Hill, you're not making Christianity better. You're just making rock and roll worse. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. So, you know, in the, in the humanist religion, what they call quote unquote the life stance, right?

29:38 Rather than saying, like, you know, any kind of decree of how to live, it's like, taking a life stance on how you orient yourself to want to live your life kind of idea. Right? So they speak of this thing called life stance. Anyway, the idea is that. Explicitly stated in the manifesto, right. Which automatically makes it sound like cult, but anyway, never should use it.

30:00 How can these brilliant people that make this thing be so dumb to use the word manifesto right? It's like fucking Unabomber manifesto. That's. Yeah, that's the kind of first that's where manifesto is the Communist Manifesto. Communist manifesto. Yes, yes. So, you know, in the longer term you think. Yes. I can't believe that it. Yeah. Anyway, that's a, that's a getting derailed really quickly.

30:24 I'm not one, but, you know, the idea I guess instead of trying to get soaking wet with our feet, literally. Okay, you got the answer.

30:38 Right. So the idea of, like, referring to their core doctrine as a manifesto, right out of the games. Wow. Yeah. So, you know, taking the taking the negative column. But anyway, yeah, in that they talk about how human values are a progressing, evolving, continuously evolving thing. Like human values, human ideology, human morality. Right. Is is a is a shifting thing.

31:07 Yeah. As society changes, as does the sentiments of what people consider immoral and immoral. Yes, yes. And that's a succinct way to say something. I believe we've kind of flirted with the edges of before of moral subjectivity. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, the problem is, is that any, any core ideology that you start to take on from a moral slash ethical try to create a framework for how people should live.

31:35 Every time you do that, you can have someone create objections through that, through the logic of moral relativism. And make it to where no rules can be formed. Right, right, right. And, and it really goes back to any logical system, just having a limited amount of introspection and being incomplete. I mean, yeah, it's just the way it is.

31:59 It's incomplete due to, valid exceptions, exemptions to the rule, exceptions to the rule. Right. That a whole the whole or the exact right if you get. Yeah, that's grass is the grass we wrap it almost looks like water from here. Weird. Yeah. Like mine. Didn't realize we were just there. No. How strange. I have no sense direction for,

32:24 Oh. Wow. It's a good thing. Like, I'm more or less lead these walks. Yeah, we would be completely lost. Which would probably be some of our best. Yeah, yeah. So there's some advantages with it. Yeah. Anyway, my my friends are whole different types who used to go. We used to go on walks and stuff when we were kids and all that.

32:42 We always get into some kind of crazy shit. He was walking with me as an adult, like 3 or 4 years ago. He's like, oh, another walk with Sean. Just like, because we got lost and we ended up having to walk up the side of a highway and. Like, super dangerous and illegal. Yeah. You trespass ten times.

33:02 Yeah, yeah. And he's like, oh, man, this is great. Let's just not die, dude. I was skiing way back in the day. I was like, is still a teenager. I think I was 16 or 17 with my family and I, I ended up out of bounds on the ski slope. Oh, crap. With no way to get back. Like, impossible to like.

33:24 The snow was too deep to like, walk up. So I had to go downhill and I'm thinking, okay, as long as I keep going downhill, I'll reach some kind of waterway or some type of right. That makes sense. And then if I follow that, I'll. It'll lead me to some house town, whatever. Yeah, right. Somewhere they can help.

33:43 So I don't walk in many miles and ski. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Oh, that was that was bad. And, Dude, this is back before cell phones, so, like, you know, I rolled up on some gas station. Yeah. Holy mackerel. Was. Oh, so you got to a gas station. Got the number for the ski slope called the, you know.

34:02 Oh, yeah. You use the the yellow Pages. You got the number? Yeah. I use the classic way we used to have to do things up. And then there was a, you know, alert at the ski slope from the administrative, you know, inside that, your son is at such and such a gas station. And I just sat there and waited.

34:20 I had no, there's no cell phone. Yeah. You just had to say, look, I put out the communique. It's one way. It's one way. Like with the understanding that, like, at some point they're going to probably start looking for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, in that search, go to the administrative hub at the ski slope.

34:39 Right. And then make the connection. That's okay. Well sure enough they, they appeared and you know, sure enough they the family finally showed up and, my father just, rolls down the window and says, get in. Oh, wow. Yeah. Nuff said. Wow. That describes his parenting style and nutshell. Not oh my God, I'm glad you're okay.

35:05 Yeah. Like what happened? Tell me what's up. Oh my God. Nothing. Am I so worried? You know. No. My heart sank when we couldn't find you. I love you so much. I'm just happy you're safe. Get in. And and, you know, then going on to praising how intelligent you are. And. Jeffrey. Yeah. You've worked it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:27 Get in the wild and then quiet. You know, like so not only not only do you feel, you know, just used to feel horrible. Yeah. You're defeated. You almost felt like the whole thing was your fault at that point. Yeah. And then like, later on post, you know, reflecting later on and saying, yeah, maybe I shouldn't have called, right?

35:43 Maybe I would have just been better off to, to keep walking the local community look pretty like I had some resources. Yeah, yeah. And you were smart, kid. Couch surfing there would have been better than, having my own room back. That back. Back in my hometown. Damn. That's when you know that you're in a good spot, right?

36:02 Right. The social safety net is tight knit. You know, when couch surfing is a is an uptick in your quality of life. Jail. Oh, there is a cell. There's plenty of places where that's true. You're right, you're right. And, there was a guy, who I used to go to these, like, 2600 meetings every now and then, like, I've no idea what that is.

36:26 2600 is like a hacking group. Okay? Sort of. Okay. It's more of a learning group. Gotcha. And, 2600 is a reference to the, tone in Hertz. You'd have to blow to seize a trunk. Basically a point where all the phone lines came into so that you could do something with it, because early on. Hey, data and voice, whenever the same channel is a frequency signal.

36:55 Yeah. So you blew it. You boil 20 600Hz and you and, trunk would wake up and you'd be able to. Insurrection. Yeah, yeah. Send send, command signals. Yep, yep. And so that's clever. You could hop. Well, so because it was originally the group was based around phreaking or phone hacking. Okay. But this guy schism. Yeah.

37:24 He, he was a system administrator in the, he's dual fan, right. And probably a big tool. Yeah. He liked, he was an administrator back in the windows 94 days, you know, and. Oh, when, you know, being a sysadmin just brought you tons of cash. Well, yeah, all he did for living arrangements was either stay in hotels where his company in 17 travel, or he would couch surf with friends.

37:54 The guy had stupid money and retired at like 39. And then he'd go by a schism and do this and be, 2600, leader. Right? Right. Exactly. He can do whatever he wanted. And he did. He had a private plane. He had all kinds of stuff. Oh my God. Yeah.

38:16 Okay. And, yeah, I mean, he seems like someone to know. Yeah, yeah, he's a cool dude. And, you know, he helped me to learn a lot about computers, but, Cool. Yeah. So the whole idea there is, that social safety net was there for him. He was in an affluent area where there are lots of people who were employed by companies that were just shoving money at them in the 90s.

38:41 And so he took advantage of the social safety net. They had houses. He didn't you say to theirs, oh, wow. Hey, hey, if you if you're like single single and can pull something like that off. Right. That's kind of clever. Yeah. It was a brilliant. I was like and not boring. No. As like imagine like kind of no medically, you know, staying with just friends and like new acquaintances.

39:05 How fun would that be? Oh, gosh. You like. Yeah. You're you. It'd be like a form of expanding yourself. It would, it would. And that probably explains why he was so open and, you know, able to get along with everybody because. Yeah, for years honing that. Wow. That's kind of cool. And so and the savings along the way, you write like you're the hospitality of people is like, so if I had said guest, you know, my house, they wouldn't pay for meals, they would pay for lodging, right, right.

39:32 For a couple days. And their company would be my compensation. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, it's incumbent upon you to be exciting and engaging. Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, all the different ideologies, all the different right ideas and points of view and lifestyles, the encounter would be pretty, pretty fascinating. It would be mind expanding to the degree.

39:53 And he, he was saying, you know, he was traveling. He said the split was probably like 70, 30. He was traveling like 70% of the time on a company's dime. Oh, wow. 30% of the time he was couch surfing. Wow. So it's like, that's long enough. And if you know enough people, you know, every few months you show up at someone's house, that's that's pretty exciting.

40:16 The idea of it, it's like, like backpacking through Europe but with resources, but domestically here. Right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And but your stops all include people with resources. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I'm sure he was buying people meals now and then or doing this or that with them or whatever. You know, you're not just staying at hostels with, you know, meth heads, right?

40:38 And having to guard your meager resources, you know? Yeah. You're not like staying at a hostel with a, you know, college dropout. That's that's, you know, determined to become the next chess champion, but only has, like, a 2200 rating, you know, like, oh, wow. This that you beat in the lobby. Chris, this sounds personal. I don't know that you haven't played chess in six months that you defeated in the lobby.

41:00 You know, playing the black pieces. You'll have to tell us the entire story. Sometimes it is the story. Of course. But anyway. That's it. Yeah. It's too long. And, for, today's. But, so I guess at this point, because we've deferred the topic of, hyper violence so long, we'll just kind of keep it deferred because that's where we're going right now is more interesting, actually, for the moment, because you imagine how okay, could you imagine how genius we would be if all these sounds of what's happening around us were just dubbed in?

41:35 We're sitting in the studio and all of this, including all these sidebar stabbing gridlock, all of it. Yeah. And we're just sitting in the studio. It's all fake. And all this stuff that we're talking about, it's not scripted in advance. Damn. Like even all the crazy meandering of, you know, ideas and circling back like it's literally in our outline while we're sitting here looking at pieces of paper.

41:58 Yep. You'll hear us occasionally. Yeah. No, you don't hear it. You know, you don't hear. That's the thing. You know we're that good. Yeah. And well we don't even shuffle pieces of paper. We have ourselves a digital teleprompter application that we created them for this. That's right. With a silent keyboard and everything. So like there's no clacking of keys as we scroll.

42:17 Right. Could you imagine. Right. Like how clever we'd be. Yeah. And then now we're sitting here like fourth walling the whole fucking thing, but then we're laughing about it and saying, oh, no, of course we're not doing that. Could you imagine? It's like, genius. That would be genius. It would be awesome. If only. Yeah, our listener base would be huge.

42:36 It would, it would. Watch out, Joe Rogan, here we come. We come in for you. Neck. And, we're going to get the I would have I would have Donald Trump on our podcast. Oh I totally would. I'd have not for the, not for the audience. But you double entendre his asked the whole entire time like, come on, why hasn't anybody done that yet?

43:00 Oh why has anybody done that yet? It's brilliant. I agree with them. But pivot it, in such a way that he looks like a dumb ass the entire time. Oh my gosh, get him to agree to things. That's ridiculous. Like, get him to agree to like, you know, do you mind trick him the whole time? I mean, I bet you could even make a fake sect of Christianity.

43:19 He wouldn't know. And you could espouse these weird tenets like, hey, we walk around with half, half a loaf of bread on our heads and shit like that. You anything? Yeah. Like, you know, because I have him take a picture like that, dude. Yeah. So the January 6th committee has revealed that, like, circling in the deep depths of the white House was that YouTube video that we talked about with the guy talking about the, Italian satellite and beaming changing votes, and I was circulating, really?

43:45 And he was like, asking the Justice Department to look into this. What the fuck? Yeah. Like that made it to his to the president's fucking desk. You're such a fucking moron. And, you know, so like, that shows you though the opportunity. It does. Like, if you were to have him as a guest now, we'll never have him as a guest.

44:02 Because even if we got super popular because we just ruined it now with this. But but I would edit this part out to then have him as a guest, you know? Oh, let's edit this part out. I would love to do. That'd be like the crown jewels of my life. You know, you have a moment saying we've uncovered all this stuff that's, you know, that proves that you're the you know, that that that you want.

44:25 Yeah. Look at all this evidence. And it's all just fuckery from that we found all across the internet or stuff, we just wholly made up, you know, and we'll send it to Rudy. We'll send it to Rudy. Dude, you. That's what we should do. We should totally make up a bunch of shit and just spam all the his supporters.

44:44 Well, see now. Okay, you're right, we should. But there's one small way outside possibility of why we shouldn't. Because it might catch fire. Yeah, and it might actually lead to, like, a revolution in our country. Right? We could be responsible for the next January 6th. Or worse. Right? Or worse, we could be responsible for an actual coup, not a failed one.

45:05 Could you imagine, like, positively potentially in podcast like, becomes the greatest QAnon becomes the new Q just because we want it to be stupid trolls? Yes. By trolling, we become the new Q well, Q was Q9 was trolling begin with. Right? Right. And I really do think that's what it was. I really think it started out as absolute trolling and then it got to life.

45:28 Dude, I can come up with a much bigger, much bigger conspiracy. Do these. Then the whole idea of an Italian satellite beaming changing votes or 5G cell towers beaming, these, these 5G cell towers, they're like causing people at the last minute to be their minds are manipulated when they go to vote. Yeah. That's it, that's it. So like, they reach for to tap Donald Trump, but their finger hits Biden because of 5G.

45:56 Because hell yeah, the mind control. Nobody voted for Biden. It was it was all mind control. Wow. Are you kidding me? It's AT&T and Verizon. You can find a note. You can find that shit online. I'm sure you can find someone online. I'm sure professing such things you're probably right with like what looks like data behind it. Oh well okay.

46:19 So I feel like I can make some data. Well, we have to do. I think is not only will we have to build the house of cards, we have to have the secret to cause it all to tumble down. Dude, we? Yeah, dude, we start off by, like, saying, like doing a podcast where. Yeah, dude, I'm telling you, I've seen the light.

46:36 Like when I was huge against Trump until I fucking found this information. Now I'm telling you, this is the real deal. Well, right. Like, yeah, you know me. You know how rational I am. You know how long you guys have listened to 30 plus podcasts? Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm the ultimate skeptic, right? There's like, very few people that are more of a skeptic than me.

46:56 Dude, this is for real. So what's the thing that would cause it all to fall and trap everyone inside who dared to enter? Oh, geez. Obviously. Obviously, based on data like false data, but data. Right? And, you know, so that so that you can actually start to bring in so some pseudo intellectuals maybe create a situation kind of like what was that?

47:20 What was that? Thing, the company with Facebook that orchestrated the, oh, Cambridge Analytica, Cambridge Analytica, Analytica or whatever. Analytica. Yeah. Cambridge Analytica. So Cambridge, create a Cambridge Analytica style thing and then hold it all up. Yeah, dude. Absolutely. Apps make everybody complicit and absolutely tied to it. Undeniable. Have all the undeniable. That's right. Send it to all.

47:49 I mean, do a data dump like, what's his name did to the Guardian? Snowden. Snowden? Yeah, like we do like a Snowden asylum type thing, but completely fucking bullshit. Well, all I'm saying, I can see when we bring the House of cards down. Yeah, we do that. Yeah. So we don't do the bullshit. That's the truth.

48:07 Let we do the data dump. And when we do the data dump, it's it's recordings, it's emails. It's everything. So you you start by, you know, doing what you need to do to to go anonymous. Right. Yep. And then start putting this in all these channels showing like maybe even you type in an IP address you don't even type in.

48:27 Right, sir. Like to get the information and then you know, this was, this was found through a hack of government server. Right, right, right. So something like go buster or something going through all the, you know, trolling a URL, looking for, valid URLs or something or something. Oh, yeah. Like like James Comey was so mad that he got audited by the FBI or the IRS that he turned the FBI against Trump.

48:53 Yeah, really, there has to be some truth in in the lie. I mean, come on. Right. You know, all right. So the truth is told between two lies, and that's what we agree on. That's why I told between two truth. And that's what we agree on, that those conspiracy theories didn't seem to have anything grounding them. Right.

49:10 So we want to make something that's grounded. We make conspiracy theory shit with brains. Yes. Could you imagine? I'd love, like, a misinformation campaign inevitably justice. And we would be awesome. And we collect hundreds of terabytes of data. Everybody that's involved, anything that happens, we collect. There's got to be so much shit sauce there that, like, nobody can, you know.

49:32 Yes. No anything other than that. Right? Right. It's got to be like, you know, we are just we flood them with data and we give them a nice permuted index of that data. Exactly. There's so much Santorum there that, you know, nobody gets to know anything else. There's a throw that you do. We call it the Santorum Santorum data dump.

49:52 And Santorum had something to do with the lead. Yeah, with the lead, with the weak. Yeah. Yeah, it goes with the leak because they knew what was at the end. It was the anal froth. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. From anal sex. It's called a Santorum now. Yeah I remember that. Yeah.

50:08 Dude, that be epic. And say Santorum was responsible for this leak. Holy shit. That's hilarious. Dude, we we could do this. We could do this. Oh, my God, if, if anyone if we have a listener out there that's fucking wealthy and wants to have some fun, well, give us a call. So we could do this as our day job for the next four months.

50:33 We promise you won't waste your money, right? We will provide results, and we will provide results and weekly reports. Even, we have dailies, we have daily scrum. They do. He's gonna stand up. We'd run this whole thing agile. We're in, like, four day sprints to get the thing done. Yo. That's right. We make the Steele dossier look like.

50:59 Yeah, right. Like the Unabomber manifesto. So, you know the core at all. This thing really is that way. You know, the Trump administration was doing was it was like trying to put things into the economy so that the working people could actually, you know, get ahead finally. Yeah. Right. And so Trump was going to drain the swamp and tear it all down.

51:23 Right, right. And so all the corporations and the businesses that be in powers that be couldn't have that right. They need to keep the working man down. That's it. Right. That's why Trump ball. Yeah. That's what I feel. So that started the whole thing right. Holy shit. Yeah. So then like you get every you know Joe working man right.

51:42 Yep. Saying yeah I knew it I knew he was for me. We know what we know. We have it right when Joe Rogan starts parroting it, you know. Totally. Yeah, totally. Or, you know, insert person here. Yeah. You know, or it's like on the news. Yeah. A new theory explains. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, Fox would just like, maybe help us.

52:05 Hey, you make this shit right? You can imagine that when the other news now was being on Fox, tongue in cheek and it's spewing all that well, you're behind that. You're like just a silhouette. Oh, that's awful. We're so we're we're deep throat it. Yeah. So smoking while we're doing it. But we're smokers. Throw everybody off. Oh. It's just edited in.

52:32 Yeah, yeah. We edit it in the smoke like the Smoking Man from next. Oh. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. And they alluded to him having been the informant named Deep Throat and. Oh, well, you know, you gotta add in a little bit of crazy. Yes. But you don't want to go too far with that because this has to become the new one that emerged right here.

52:49 Right. But we've got a we've got a tie. I mean, surely we can give ourselves some conspiracy theory, correct? Yeah. And so, like, you know, the whole wall idea was just designed specifically to keep, foreign labor out of our markets. Right. So that there'd be more jobs available to the working man. And due to automation and advances in AI.

53:10 That is an interesting point. Okay. All right, now, I don't think I'll eat a funnel cake from that one. No, I don't don't like hepatitis in my in my phone. Okay. It looks a little freaky. Yeah. I don't know if he changes the oil in that thing and in the, in that in the fryer. And, you know, there's a high chance the guy might be on heroin or.

53:32 Oh, okay. So you get the you have the best funnel cake you've ever had that because we've agreed it's laced with something that you didn't know how much you like. Right, right. Besides saturated fat. Oh, now. Oh, this is it. We know we're in the best area ever. We've got the funnel cake, RV and camel toe carpet cleaning.

53:51 Yep yep yep. Right next to each other. You have everything you need for a complete life, right? In this block. When you're so. When you're so high and fucked up on the funnel cake. That you spill everything on your carpet, including your own urine and feces. And Santorum, you're, You're called the camel when you've Santorum all over the house.

54:11 Yeah. If you camel toe to the rescue. Camel toe is the answer. We should call them with that, marketing hat that.

54:21 Do you want to join our Santorum conspiracy? Trump rally one? He did. I knew it. Dude. Awesome, right? And so, like, next level that shit to like, beyond what all the media hubs are doing right? Like next level shit make people come to this information as if they discovered it. Yeah, right. Or make people come to the conclusions because their their conclusions.

54:45 So it's like, you know, you say one plus two equals and they go three, it's three. I knew it's like, how could it be anything? But they're all look, you see one and two right here. Wow. And so you like just make people draw the conclusion. You don't have to even draw the conclusion. But you make it so facile, so simple.

55:04 Dude, you know how many people would say, look, just look at this. Just put it together. Just put it together. Actually, that might not work. One plus two is 17. It's 12 34.5. Write it down on a piece of paper. 1 or 212.

55:25 We automatically go to the redneck is on the right. Oh, shit. Well, that's what we know, you know. Yeah. And so this whole Roe v Wade really like call Barrett didn't want to do that. Right. Yeah. That was all just a media bullshit. Like they were forced because they're forced to do this because what they're doing is they're, the whole thing was just a plot by the Democrats to get more Democratic voters.

55:47 Oh, because this this disenfranchizes poor people. Right. So the Democrats are just using it. So, hey, you think I mean, that's an angle QAnon hasn't gone on really openly speaking about how these poor rednecks are disenfranchized openly speaking about. Yeah. And how the Democrats or what Trump is trying to do is empower them. Right? Yeah. Trump was trying to make sure they have high paying jobs.

56:14 And, you know, jobs. You want to bring back your factory job that was part of Make America Great again. And so the establishment they can't have that. They can't have that. So they've done all these. They've done all these things. Yeah. It does smell delicious. So it's like or like a like a, like an expensive closet, right.

56:33 Yeah. There we are in describing smells. Then our podcast non-scripted unscripted podcast, we came to this idea about Trump spontaneously when we walked by, we walked by something that may have been a juniper tree. Maybe, maybe, maybe it was some kind of fragrant, delicious military. Don't reverse image search the image that we put up there. Yeah, yeah. So awesome.

57:03 I love the fact that we're creating a conspiracy theory about our own podcast, that it's helping to to launch a new conspiracy theory, which then only brings Trump on our podcast, which then only so that we can double entendre him and reveal the truth. This podcast will only be up for one week. Then we'll be burnt. Wayback machine ain't going to work.

57:23 I'm gonna throw my own fucking server, bitches. There we go. Oh, is it being indexed on the Internet Archive? Hell if it's not. I'm about to go on air today. Our podcast. Yeah, dude, we can even upload. You can upload it to the archive. Do they take files? Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. Oh, I'll, I'll check that out.

57:44 Cool. Yeah. So, you know, continuing on with the idea, right, is, don't forget, we have the technological ability to spin up any number of websites. What resources? Oh, right. Right. That then are taken down. Right? Yep. Come on. It's too easy with our with our skill set. Oh that's too easy. Oh, man. And come on I can use the Tor network.

58:15 You can, you know, and so can you. I can purchase the domain anonymously. So can you. Dot onion. Yeah. Dot onion or even, just a visa prepaid card. Yeah. And my name is, you know, insert my, my, name for all this here.

58:36 Has to have some kind of, pun behind it, obviously. Right. Has to tie in, but not to like anybody even remotely obvious. Like it has to be. Maybe like, not just a play on words, but like a numeric thing. So like, add up the letters and shit, you know, say something like schism, perhaps my name for all this shall be schism.

59:00 Yeah. And you got okay, so your name shall be schism because you like tool and some and some lyric there therein. Right. Yeah. Part of the name. Right. So yeah. Encoded. Encoded. Oh. I came across something on hackaday.com where they have their own podcast, and they ended up using an ancient, data, interchange format, Kansas City standard for data interchange on tapes.

59:32 And they appended it to the end of their podcast to include a secret message to easy. Right, right. Yeah. I thought that was really cool. Oh, and maybe we can use it for conspiracy to. We can use it for that. Or we can add something similar to ours, because I do use that stuff already. Not to our existing podcast, but other things.

59:51 Yeah. Okay. So you do some data hiding. Dude, I encode stuff all the time. I encode and hide stuff all the time. Like if you ever get a card for me, like a birthday card. Yeah, there's something there. Oh, no, 100% like, open the card. Like the the two pieces of paper that are stuck together. Open that shit.

1:00:08 Yeah. There's something in there that's so cool. Almost 100% of the time, like 95% of the time. I do this. And a majority of the time, no one ever knows. And, hey, you can go back and collect correspondence that I've given to people over the course of my life and find a whole nother realm of information that you didn't know.

1:00:29 That is so cool. I've been doing it forever. All right, so you're skilled in manual steganography. The art of data hiding. Absolutely. Oh, the, Yeah. Like, inside the spine of the card might be something like, like a rolled up piece of paper. Maybe down in there, or maybe just some some stuff written in there. All right, all right, I like it, you know, like, a poem or some some small quote that I found or something.

1:00:58 You think of something personal. The an extra. That's awesome. Yeah. Like it could be anti it as well. It could be negative as well. Like. Right. You know the boss is an asshole is retiring and inside the the inside the bound portion of the of the card. You know it says something like my congratulations was sincere, but I didn't really write exactly what I meant because I don't know how to spell riddance.

1:01:26 Hahahahahahahaha. Is it? That's great. Absolutely. And the guy that I wrote that card to, you might now go and open that card. If he if he's, one of our listeners, so great. And find a really big surprise if he kept all of his retirement, I hope he did. And, yeah, it goes way deeper than that.

1:01:49 Like, hacking Ldap, if you put it in funny pictures of people. Yeah. And, like, just make their teeth yellow, like, it's the picture. It's the actual old that picture, but I Photoshop. Yep. I photoshop that with like five shades of more yellow teeth. That's great. And then repost it and nobody ever fucking knows. That's hilarious.

1:02:10 But the guy's teeth like fucked up. And it's like overnight he became British. No guys, the British people. And just fucking around. He. Yeah, he gets picked for a language arts project at the. Nobody knows why the algorithm picked him for the language arts, for the British to be the British ambassador, because they had his picture had made his teeth fucked up.

1:02:33 Dude. Yeah. The air is like British if he can relate. People grounded in British culture at 13. So yeah, it's like the, the people don't know why the, how the AI is figuring out that that canine type thing is a wolf, right? So they ask the AI, like, why? Why is that a wolf? Because there's snow in the background.

1:02:57 Yeah. So did I tell you there's snow in the background? I, Wells Fargo has had like, a set of AI things with, MIT and Stanford and the guy who was behind that, that whole thing was was there. I. I gave you the, information, like light, but I was like, dude, he's. We just talked about this shit, and he's here and he's talking about it right now.

1:03:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like my AI experience when I figured out right away that death cures all disease. So fucking crazy. Not. Then there'd be an agenda to go kill everybody on the planet. Just figures out that that reality. This is the ultimate cure. I mean, who can deny that? That's true. Yeah, I mean, it did achieve the goal.

1:03:38 Hey, man, you know the data. Anecdotally, in real life is the same, right? Like, so it matches reality perfectly. Oh, yeah. I mean, when someone dies, you no longer assume that they happen to be hilarious. If it was like, well, okay, job's done. Wipe my hands of it, all right? I'm going to kill myself.

1:03:56 I saw instructed, well, let's be honest. That's like some people make that conclusion in the real life called suicide. Yep. They say there's nothing here for me, right? Then, then to cure this illness that I have, which is just can't find any kind of, happiness in this world, right? I'm going to leave it. Yeah, because this cures my disease.

1:04:15 And, you know, I can't. I can't deny that perspective. You know, when my mother went through her cancer, when she's the. Everybody was relieved when she died because she's no longer suffering. And, you know, I was left with this, like, gutted feeling of, like, how did we why did we force her to to live for so much longer?

1:04:34 Yeah. When we could have had a great celebration when she was cogent and had her take his drug cocktail and slip away right. You know, say, save her pain, warning her mother. Hey, don't. Pretty good you are. You. Oh, yeah. You few minutes. Yeah. So we're like, she could, you know, leave with some type of faculty, you know, still intact.

1:04:57 And she's also a participant story in the, in the in the decision, you know, like, oh my gosh. Anyway, that's a whole. Yeah. Off topic. I mean, everybody, you gotta check your, go check your, put your phone on silent because people know we're in the studio. Oh, no. So the reason my phone is not on silent today is because my girlfriend is on a was flying, and I wanted to make sure she was getting okay.

1:05:22 No, it was just a joke. You make your phone do whatever you want. Oh. Yes, yes, we are in the studio. Guys, this bus that's about to come by totally source to the sound somewhere else. Yeah, we're sitting there like the equalizer board. Like putting up the volume of the sound as it approaches. Like to make it sound like it's project.

1:05:39 Yeah. We're trying to do a perfect Doppler effect, so forgive us if we don't quite pull it off. No, that's just sliding the left right channel. That's easy. I mean, wait, how do you do that? Yeah, of course we don't know how to do that. Nervous laughter. It's going to be hard when we're. If we ever do do the episode in the studio to like, you know, get all these sounds in there.

1:06:03 Yeah. It never could be this good. It's not possible. But fidelity of our, you know, my squeaky shoes, the bird chirps, the fidelity of the cast is way no way. It's it's not possible. Right? I mean, just don't take any of the audio. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if we start a service that adds ambient noise podcast.

1:06:20 We have enough of it recorded. And, you know, what else we could do is, you know, we could not tell people to, like, use software that removes the audio channel. Yeah, the audio, the other channel, and then try to, do a search for the for the remaining audio clip online, and, and don't look for stock.

1:06:40 Sounds right, because, you know, they might match up with something.

1:06:48 I think at this point we have people I wondering, like, are they in the studio? Right. She's either double entendres or words that. Right. Yeah, I do, I think that's, that's that's I will state of confusion and hilarity is where we want to be. And and that's how you get Trump. That's how you get them. You just do this layered.

1:07:07 Right. So like you're going along with the conspiracy theories that you made up by supporting evidence that you find in reality. Right. Yeah. So you take the take the complete bullshit sandwich. Okay. Which of course is made from teachers with some, with some complete shit in middle and some Santorum in the middle. And what you do with that is you some frothy, frothy Santorum.

1:07:30 Yes. And so then what you do is you continue to sell the bullshit in the middle, but, ooh, they got a door. Now, we're watching this place. The bottom. Well, so what you do, Sean? Really like this is the genius. Okay, if you bolster the shit in the middle by pointing to to the truth of the outside stuff of the bread, you're like, these two things are true, though.

1:07:55 They're only tangentially related at best, right? They're true. Right. So since since the things being sold as a package. Right. So it's it's completely a triple decker Santorum sandwich. Yes. So what you have in the very we have on the outside is a completely something solid and true. Right then in the middle, guts in the middle, you have this conspiracy theory nonsense and we're going to have multiple layers tied, which is why I'm saying that's right.

1:08:23 That's right. Because in the middle there's going to be some more truth. And then then there's going to be more frothy Santorum then more true. Yeah. From from big pictures perspective, what you really do have is you have a truth sandwich, right? Give somebody something true in bulk. Then in the middle of something, you're conspiracy and the outside truth.

1:08:41 Right. And the other piece of bread is another truth sandwich, right? Yeah. And then what you do, though, is that what you.

1:08:48 Keep the conversation on the bread. On the bread, not the Fluffernutter Santorum in the middle. Yeah. Okay. Yes. They'll be a link to fluff if you go to the web page, they'll be a link to Fluff and Santorum. Yeah, I don't know about this where people do their own, you know, Google search, Urban Dictionary, all. Yeah. Oh okay.

1:09:11 Here, here's like a great example of this in a comic in a comedic way. Right? Yeah. There's this guy on TikTok that said, guys, the the CDC just just announced that the, transmission transmission for Covid isn't just airborne, right? There was there was this group of girls, right. There's these two girls that, there's two girls at school that that, shared a drink with a with another person that was Covid positive, and they both got Covid, but they had no direct airborne contact with them.

1:09:46 The person had left their drinks behind. Right? No. And, if you if you want to find the if you want to learn more about this, just Google two girls, one cup.

1:09:58 We are trying all the classics like no waffle. Yeah, right. But do you see. Yeah, yeah. So he's totally within the guidelines of, of TikTok. Right. And you know what people are going to do. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and that's for all the and the thing is, oh, the young people on TikTok. Right. It's so old that people forgotten mostly.

1:10:22 Yeah. And then also the new people don't the younger people don't have that yet. What about go see, that's one of the best. Well, you you're the master. You know, all this stuff, but you know, I'm not. I'm just saying, I think it's between the two. I think, you know, a lot more about it than I do.

1:10:37 I think we could, but I think we could team up. Maybe both of us don't know how much we really know about all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, but that's how. See, that's the that's the trick. You see. Like that's the, that's that's the, that's the way you double entendre, the whole conspiracy theory thing that we're talking about.

1:10:55 Right, right. Truth shit truth shit truth shit. Yes. But the naked truth shit stack. Yes, but the shit is the degree, right? Which nobody can validate one way or the other. Right? Right, right. It's like, it's like saying, you know, some would say like newscast, right? Yeah. Newscasts all the time, like some would say blah, blah, blah.

1:11:16 And that's what Trump does. That's exactly what Trump does. Well, if Fox News is notorious for well, yeah, but Trump does the same thing some would say or people have said people are so talking about I get I get all the time, I get all the support email and say all the time I get and then ten times the volume of go fuck yourself.

1:11:33 You can't. Yeah. Email. Yeah. Yeah, right. It's just like, please throw yourself in a woodchipper. Or maybe it's like that South of South Park episode where they have Butters censoring all of Cartman, things because he doesn't want to have any negative. You ever seen that? So no. So, like, you know, Cartman is on social media, and, most of the people are just saying, you know, go kill yourself.

1:11:53 Dumb fucking fat cunt, right? And stuff like this, right? And he can't take it. And so he's saying that it's his right. Right to, like, have this information filter censor. And so the guidance counselor agrees and puts Butters on the, on the task of filtering out all the negative. That's all the negativity. Well, what happens is that butter starts turning into, like, this monster because all he's seeing is negativity so much, right?

1:12:15 Like yes. And so it works so well for Cartman. They decided to start doing it for other peoples like Steven Seagal. So Steven Seagal is using Butters to then filter out all the negative comments online, and then only take the positive comments, print them out, and give them to Steven Seagal. That's so funny. Epic, right? But but here's what we do is what we should do is.

1:12:42 And take the victory. That's right. There's an there's an obvious action layer here, right? Yeah. We're skating heavily. And that's how you mask this shit. The Santorum Center. Yes. So through obfuscation, skillful misdirection, truth, creation, truth, creativity, creativity, diabolic evil genius, diabolic genius. Yeah. That that normally goes untapped, right. Unless you had it there on purpose. Right. You know, you know, the, the evil genius between us that goes, untapped, unfortunately, because that's like, in our normal lives, that's not appropriate.

1:13:19 Use it. Okay. So this this like, allows us to explore that aspect of our personality. All for a good cause. This is all just white hack, hacking people. White hat, white hat. This is this is social engineering elevated, y'all. This is 2600 plus. Yeah yeah yeah yeah that's it. Like premium. Yeah. And man. And then after we pull it off we can make online courses about it.

1:13:46 We get hired like adjunct professor at Harvard. Teaching teaching social media and oh, modern media manipulation classes. Oh. Modern media and manipulation. Like misinformation. Like how it how it works is effect on society. Yeah. And it's like the case study for this class is something we actually did. So, so like, also at the same time, the whole entire thing is just a plug for our podcast.

1:14:12 Like at the end of the day, like when the curtain gets finally fully pulled back, we just wanted 50,000 listeners. That's it, that's it. Yeah. That's all that we have 500,000. We created like a micro revolution. We tore down like, you know, we disrupted an election. You know, all we wanted was, no, we can't say that because now, now there's like data that, you know, this was not intentional.

1:14:34 Oh, damn. The collateral effects were intentional. Like fucking crazy. Yeah. So Comey right. The IRS came down on Comey super hard with audits. Yeah, right. There's not nothing was there. But getting audited fucking sucks and is a major hardship. Well Trump put his dogs on. You know call me because remember you're falling out with Comey. Yeah I do.

1:14:54 And so he put his he put his put the henchman on him and he and the other guy, McCabe or whatever his name is, got, audited like hardcore by the IRS. Yeah. So, like, so you tie that into me. And so what Comey did was he took the FBI and he coordinated it. Yeah. Right. Because even though he left the FBI, he still had all this contact.

1:15:15 And that's how they undermined the election. Like that's see, we just put it together in this abstract way and then let the conspiracy theory just make itself. That's the genius. Yeah, yeah. And you give it a life of its own, and you.

1:15:30 I think you try to find the influencers and that can propagate it, but also shape it. But the thing is, I feel like whoever Q was, they lost control of this thing pretty quick. Right? The another big problem is that anybody could be Q quote, unquote. Right, right. So that we don't do that, don't make that mistake. So there's an Oracle source.

1:15:53 How do we maintain control and be the single point of information? Well, the first step that you do is you make people have to have a password that that of course is shared. Right. And it's probably something like password. Yeah. Right. Right I hacked it I hacked it. See. Like you make people think they came to the information like, hey, they they hacked the information.

1:16:15 Oh, shit. Right. They they found the password right on this obscure site. And they went to this other site and they put it in the password and no shit. There's that government document. Tell. It's so easy. Damn. So we create almost like a mock, CT, capture the flag exercise. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Perfect way to say. Yeah.

1:16:36 Exactly. Like a like a like a mystery that it's, like, so stupid, easy to unsolved to solve that. Like, anybody can solve it. But then the Dunning-Kruger effect kicks in and they believe that they solved it because of their genius. Not because that, like, you could just stumble into it, right? Yes. And then you ever seen the Fifth Element movie?

1:16:55 I've seen that, you know, so like they reconstruct the being from DNA fragment. Okay. Right. So like the entire like that, that's the building blocks for life anyway. But like, you know, so in theory, in theory, you could be reconstructed from just some of your DNA, right? Yeah. But everything that makes you use in your DNA except for, like, your life experiences.

1:17:15 Sure, sure. Right. Absolutely. But in the case of the Fifth Element, the DNA was so complex, it has the experiences encoded in it as well, right. That experiential information, it had it it was a live encoding of the experience. Yeah. But the being and the experiences that go with it. And so then when they all they needed when she died was just the DNA fragment to reproduce not only the being fussed, but the and the experiences.

1:17:41 So really what you do is you just encode this thing like that. So where all the conclusions are drawn naturally from the information, like I said, the one plus two equals three thing. Right. And then that combined with like I found I hacked this password and like, you know, people didn't think I uncovered this. Right. And they think of the motivation that someone had.

1:18:00 If we really believe that they uncovered something, we made something like this to, we could use it to, you know, teach Nina the basics of, you know, finding out information of, absolutely. It's it's a learning tool. Yeah, yeah. And a plug for our podcast. On that note, have a good one, cuz it's. How are we going to.