0:00 My grandma is not a fucking Trump supporter, so if you're not that much of a fucking idiot. Your grandma brings her $5,000 trump note to the bank. Like what? Wanting to cash in. Well, thank God my grandmother was came. When I first found out my family were Republicans was when a bubble was coming into office. The first time I.

0:20 I just assumed we were Democrats here. Right? Thinking and forward looking people. Right. And, now my grandma calls me when we're about was about to be elected, and she's like, I hope you're not mad at me. I voted for Obama. I said, so did I. You know, it's like, why wouldn't I? She's like, you know, where Republicans, right?

0:44 I was like, no, I knew my dad was. Donate. Donate. Like donate it to Trump's campaign and have it be Biden notes.

0:56 So so what we're talking about is Trump making these, like, fake currency with his face on it and some outside, you know, fringe people, dumbass. They wanted to make money thinking that that actually was legal money. Like actual money. Like spent $5,000 on it because it was a $5,000 trump note. And then the brought said note to the bank, eventually to the bank, thinking it was legal tender.

1:22 The bank looking at that person like, what? So, you know, you can kind of think like, you know, hey, it's got a president's face on it. Right, right, right. And this is exactly the kind of thing that Trump would play to it is right. Good lord. So, Yeah, it'd be great if there's this other one I saw recently.

1:44 Like, do you remember when his donation site. Like, someone would get on there and try to donate, like, stop the steal or. Yeah, Make America. And the default check mark was due to do this monthly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Save America fund or whatever. And, so yeah, the default check mark is like, not only make this a donation to make it recurring.

2:06 Yes. You know, weekly, biweekly. Like, not once a month to, like, you know? Yeah. We're hit you every paycheck. Yeah. Right, right, right. The Trump subsidy. Yeah. Oh, and, so the latest one is like, you know, donate to Herschel Walker. You know, immediately. Yeah. Because because he's a fucking lying piece of shit who has sun even just out.

2:32 Yeah. Donate to him immediately because, you know, the the the the Liberal Democrats are trying to make it so, so black and black conservative. He blamed his a mental disease that he is now cured of for having paid for an abortion and having forgotten about it. Oh my God, he's he's cured of this mental disease though. I love it.

2:56 Yeah, sure. Why not? And, you know, so the idea in Trump's sight now is, you know, rush donation to Herschel Walker. You know, we need this. We need, we need we need this guy. His son said something to the effect of, okay, when my dad went out for office, I was behind him. All of our family was.

3:16 Until he started lying and doing what he had always done. He's made a life of making other people's lives miserable. Jesus Christ. I don't really know much about him, but on this Trump website now there's like Russia $100 donation, $500, 1000, 10,000, whatever you can do, right? Wow. And, when you when you click it, let's say you donate 100 bucks.

3:39 Yeah, $90 goes to Trump and ten goes to Herschel. So they even make it that transparent. You can see it on the next page. Yeah you can see it. And then to make an adjustment if you want to. So there's sliders but the well boxes. Yeah. But the but the default is that 90% goes to Trump 10% goes to they don't want to stop man.

4:03 You realize it was like so for getting far away right. Yeah. But they they didn't perspective as off as. Yeah. My perspective is always off. I only see that when I. What. Wait, what? So the ultimate sniper. What? No, no, not the ultimate sniper. Just, has lack of depth perception because, so my right eye could have been fixed before I was three if my parents just took me to the doctor and they gave me an eye patch for a few weeks.

4:31 Wow. Okay. It's a pretty much. The problem is it's a lazy eye, but it's not a wandering eye. And so it just has a focus. Okay. And, MIT has come out with, like, a game that would cure it, but they haven't released the game to the public. I see. And there are a bunch of other research, like there's supposed to be a book from the 1890s that has exercises that could cure it.

4:58 Oh, weird. Okay, so basically, you can look at me and one look down the road at the same time, like Chameleon Eyes. That's cool. No, no, no, I don't see out of the right I. I brain shuts it off. What? Yeah. So the signal is so shitty because it doesn't focus. My brain's like we're throwing that away, so I don't see that in my left eye.

5:17 No shit. Yeah. I did not know that. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, well, I hope that game comes out. Carrie, you know shit. Is it then? Vision is pretty critical. It is? I mean, I have to double check several times a second when driving to make sure I'm in the right place. And parking is a bear. So here's an idea for you.

5:39 Is that, human beings are from playing Earth. They're actually from Mars. So, like, when the climate of Mars started in the bed, magnetosphere core cooled down, the magnetosphere started to deteriorate. Right? Plunging their civilization into chaos. Atmosphere was starting to decline. And for scrambling over the remaining resources, there was a massive nuclear war which nukes the planet and created what we see today.

6:07 Accelerated everything even worse. Atmosphere evaporated off even faster type deal that there might actually be a trio of pyramids over there. Yeah, yeah. So, You. Yeah. I was watching this idea. I got some video, I saw it, and, that may come from an old book by the guy who created Tarzan books. Well, the front of the line is that, like, people will believe anything because, you know, the the the DNA from human beings is, like, found in common ancestors with all these other great species.

6:44 Sure. And it's like, you know, kind of put two and two together here. You know, the why. Why would you make this so, like Occam's razor, right? The most simple solution is most likely the real right. Yeah. Like, proportionally, the more simple answer typically is probably the more correct. Yeah. Like. And more correct is what you probably just said.

7:06 Yeah. And people have an intuition for the for the most likely answer. You know, generally if you know something about a topic you can kind of wind your way towards, sniff out the most likely thing. Yeah. Your spouse is like all of a sudden getting in this health kick, getting in better shape, is wearing perfume and is like not coming home from work.

7:23 See the perfumes? The cute personally? Well, whatever. I'm just saying, like, you know, there's a there's a possible explanation that there is she's really trying to revitalize her or she's the personal trainer. Yeah. So, you know, she might be Margie. Margie until her green sex guru. Her way to a better life. You know, so Margie and tells her green is doing that.

7:49 Yeah, you can tell it's like political season because we're, like, talk a lot more about politics. But, it's funny because. Yeah. Margie and Margie. Margie and Hillary. Marjorie Taylor Greene, was a. Yeah, yeah. She divorced her husband late. Late of late, you know, recently divorced. Right. And she's. And the trying to be the darling of the right wing.

8:10 Yeah. Yeah. She was having some kind of tantric sex with the sex guru guy. Wow. Wow. You know. Okay. More power to her. All right, I guess. Yep. I mean, I'm not gonna. Not into this. I, I think it was the first time I ever heard about tantric sex was, in relation to staying the same. Yeah.

8:31 Yeah, yeah. So, you know, that's a hell of a job title to have. And as you put that in your business card. Sex guru. Yeah, I'm a sex guru. Yeah. That's, And I just wonder how you monetize that one. Like, do people pay per session? Is it like. Or is it like a training thing? There's some movie like that, guru that, the guy that did awesome powers in Shrek.

8:55 Yeah. Can't remember his name. Mike Myers, like Myers, like Mike Myers, you know, was really came off the success of gold. Gold member and Austin Powers series. Yep. The team off the success of that which was did a really good at the box office. People loved it. And then this one just tanked his career and he did The Guru and yeah, now he's gone.

9:15 Yeah. Like it was such a failure. Well, the same thing happened to Dana Carvey. He did. Master of disguise. Okay. And then it died. Yeah, he's. You know, I've seen him, like, twice since the. Yeah, they brought him back once on SNL, but I happened to catch as playing w. Okay. Okay. But,

9:41 So it's funny because, like, the the sheer number of talented actors trying to get into Hollywood, I'm sure is just assume Nami of people. Oh, yeah. You know, like, come on, who wouldn't want to be a movie star? You know, if you if you had some acting talent and, so you can imagine, like, as some of these actors get popular, have a few, like, hit movies or whatever, they, they get these egos that are just insane, like, on of control.

10:07 Right. Like, Christian Bale is famed for having a out of control ego and, berating people. It's been recorded. Yeah. They end up being like these monsters on the set, and, you know, they're just terrible, terrible to work with. Pretty bad prima donnas, you know? Yeah. And, it's so funny because don't they realize that there's people with just as much talent as them in possibly more that are that are that are hungry?

10:35 Yeah. You know, that are willing to do the work, that are willing to, you know, be easier to work with. I mean, the minute show community, there they were doing like a reunion type thing. And, it was brought up that they weren't even sure if it was legal for Chevy Chase to show up for the reunion because of the legal proceedings that had arisen out of his tenure on the ship.

11:01 How strange. Because he was such a terrible, terrible human being to work with. They pretty much had to do the equivalent of like, beyond restraining order to get him on that. And apparently he was just such a misanthropic, terrible person. What the hell? I didn't know that. Yeah. Because you wouldn't think that from seeing the movies he's in, right?

11:26 You'd think he'd be funny, jovial. He was involved with SNL during inception. You know, I haven't heard anything about him either. I don't know if he's still alive. I, I think he is, because a fairly recent article I read about that. Reading. Okay. Okay. Well, so my my thinking here, though, is just like, you know, these people at some point have to realize that they have to be pretty dramatically replaceable, you know?

11:52 Right. And, you'd think that alone would keep some form of humility or fear. Right. If not, you fear. Right. Right. And and that maybe it would present itself as the phenotype of humility. Right. Right. Right, right. Yeah. Oh, shit. I got to use the word phenotype. Nice. And, I think probably that that a lot of them, you know, do have some, some degree of humility and probably balance that pretty well and, and then keep it kind of normal.

12:20 Yeah. But, also don't forget there's avatars coming up really soon. Yeah. I mean, it was claimed that it turned out not to be true, but it was claimed by a company out of India that, What's his name? Bruce Willis had sold his likeness and voice to them for movies. Oh, okay. And then he his PR team gets on, you know, social media and decries it, says, no, this is not true.

12:45 I see, I see. But it's. The thing is, it's possible. I mean, they did that in the last Terminator movie with Secor. Gotcha. In book like CGI, but still. Well, it's what I'm saying is the technology for that is used so good that inevitably, you know, you'll just have voice actors and the and the actor on screen will be completely digital.

13:05 I mean, because. Right, right. And you may not even have a voice actor because what they do is voice, too. Sure. Yeah. What they did. Well, what they did for Top Gun Maverick. Maverick. Was it the newest one? So Val Kilmer is is lost his voice in real life. In real life? Okay. And, it's some kind of disorder.

13:25 He has. I'm not sure of the details, but ultimately, they still wanted him in the movie, so they contracted a firm to build his voice. Out of all of the clips and things he's ever said. Sure. Right. And they used AI processing, and they built him a voice for the film. Yeah, there was some movie recently to where they CGI different ages different, like dating DeVito and whatever, like the mobster, you know, people, they they had them at different ages.

13:55 I don't know the name of the film. It's been a while, I don't recall, but, and I didn't see it. But there's supposedly like, they they show them as kids, they show them as, you know, middle aged and then then older elderly. Wow. And they completely, like, took their likeness and CGI. Each one of those. Wow. You know, phases.

14:11 It's, you know, so all I'm getting at is that inevitably, you know, there's a potential that Hollywood actors just be completely replaced with fictitious AI, AI driven CGI personas. Right. Yeah. That much like that AI rapper we were talking about. Yeah. That will inevitably, possess the ability to act better than any human ever could. Right. Right.

14:34 And they don't forget their lines. Right. And they don't need to be fed. They don't need a trailer. They don't need, you know, any of the trappings of having an actor on set. There's no writer that says this person needs only green M&Ms on Tuesday. You know.

14:51 I love it.

14:54 Yeah. So maybe, good riddance. You know, maybe. Yeah, maybe the world doesn't need these these hyper egomaniacs. Well, I mean, if we're going to get rid of hyper egomaniacs with sports to hell. How can we do that? Well, I'm glad you mentioned that, because I think I thought many times about. Remember that old Nintendo game back in the day?

15:16 Tech? Mobile. Yeah, dude, it was Jenny. But yes. And you seen, those robot wars they battle, right? Right. Robot battles. It's kind of dumb, but, I can see inevitably on the sideline, a series of technicians with joysticks and controllers, right, that are battling, you know, anthropomorphic robots that are all. Yeah, or whatever. Sport or some new sport.

15:44 Yeah. Right. And taking each other out, destroying the robots is just part of the right normal flow. I feel like though we'd have to have them. We'd have to approach that uncanny valley, you know, that that place where they're creepily looking for us to like it. It. Yeah. So so so. Right. And then the rules around, you know, a robot getting destroyed are significant.

16:05 Like, you know, there's rules, just like there aren't any sport. Right. And, you know, because people are going to invest millions in this and they're going to be sponsors attached to it and sponsor dollars, you don't want it destroyed. You have to ship of Theseus argument eventually, like, okay, this robots been all the parts have been replaced 50 times and it's still the robot that I sponsored.

16:25 Or is it still the robot on the fan of. Yes it is. Yeah. Right. Because it wears that number and it has that likeness. Right? Right, right. It is because the company who built it says it is exactly that. Everything's like that anyway. Right. So, yeah. You know, what's your identity? You know, you probably give me your name and your occupation.

16:43 And I'm constantly sloughing off cells. I'm constantly changing, and various epigenetic and genetic ways. I'm getting older. The telomeres are falling off of cells and they're dying constantly. You know, you have different genes that are activating and deactivating epigenetics. Exactly. That's what I'm saying genetically. And so we're all we're all in a constant state of flux. Right. And morphology.

17:05 And so just like the ship, you know, so what you're referring to for people that aren't aware is like if you had an ancient ship and over time a board would right on that ship and they replace the board, then inevitably over hundreds if not thousands of years, every every piece. Yeah. Every single component of that ship changed.

17:24 Is it still the same ship? That's the that's the philosophical argument. And, the the the the question is pretty simple. Yes. Because the thing is, it's imbued with the history and identity of said ship. And that hasn't changed throughout this entire existence. You know, it's if people had forgotten what it was and it was just this ship, then, okay.

17:51 You know, it's it's it's more or less like the whole versus the sum of the parts, you know? Right. And the whole is always true. The legend, the the ideas surrounding it always transcend the physical and human beings. Think on terms of discrete objects more so than they think of constituent parts. Right, right. You know, I think of you as as you, not your heart, liver, kidney.

18:13 And we you know, there's that whole concept of whenever a baby first learns to think of an object as an object, an object and it learns object permanence and. Right, you know, it's like, yeah, we think of things as holes or a complete thing that performs a function or a set of functions. And then I guess in the abstract I see you as like your corporal body.

18:35 But in the majority, I think of you as you're from your personality. Like, okay. Yeah, your interactions with me when I think of you, like in my mind's eye, if we weren't together. Right. Yeah, I wouldn't think of, like I said, heart, kidney, lung. No. You know, dead, I, you know, etcetera. Yeah. You know, I think of the overall kind of general appearance of you, but mostly your personality.

18:59 Oh, yeah. So in the majority, like, you know, my mind kind of abstracts my idea of your identity as those things. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was thinking about this morning. This girl, Kathy, that I used to flirt with it, my grandparents, you know, and it's like, what I thought of first was how, you know, feelings like our interactions.

19:21 And that's what I remembered the most. Right, right. Vague memory of what she looked like, but mainly, you know, just this stupid moment came just what, percolated to the top of my mind where I was in church, and I was making my brothers laugh with something stupid, and she looks over at me just completely. I could feel that she was just completely shocked at what I was doing.

19:47 And and I mean, how shocked she was and just shot across the room at me. I was like, wow, it was great. So like, since the mind can abstract in that, in that kind of area. Right. And so obviously from what I understand, our brains are very efficient about recognizing faces. From what I, from what I understand.

20:11 Yeah. Neurologically, it's a very low. That's what we're built. One of the things we're built to do. Right? Yeah. It's a very low neurological effort for us to a face. Yep. So and the memories are strong and they persist. So like, you see somebody after many, many years, they've even changed as they age and whatnot. Your brain still immediately picks up on that first friend.

20:28 Nina was talking about that the other day. Like someone whose it was like the sister of an ex-boyfriend from high school recognized her out in public. Oh my God, dude, I can't tell you how many times I've been like, at Disney or like, I mean, I was overseas one time and somebody recognized me. Dang. And it's like, I'm not a celebrity.

20:50 I haven't. I've met lots and lots of people, obviously, but, my gosh, not millions, right? It is definitely one of those small world things, man. I've been recognized over my life like someone just out of the blue. Chris I know, and I'm like, oh, hey, guy. Yeah. You're like, I don't fucking know you.

21:09 Like, I vaguely recognize the face, but, like, that's it. Yep. You know, and, for for some for other people, like, you know, hey, I know you. Yeah, but but overall, for the most part, I'm from Liz Base. Great. Yeah. Yeah. I thought you were dead. No, no, I just decided to run away with my money and not get cut off in all the drama like Elon Musk.

21:36 There's this new f guy right in Almeida, Sam Bank, like three Bateman or some shit. He's got a weird ass man. Tried to play a shell game and created all this fraud, and now it's probably huge trouble. And I know lost billions of dollars. There's rumors that he might be in Argentina. There's a boy. Yeah, he's definitely not in the States.

21:58 He claims to be in the Bahamas. Alrighty then. So he's going to be facing something, right? Well, it's entirely possible as well that he stole about $2 billion. Oh, boy, oh, boy. So did we. Did we talk about the whole idea of monkey business? Are you talking about that? I don't know if we do that. So where did that phrase comes from?

22:23 Yeah, I don't remember. No. So monkey business is like, so, so so my I've been saying for a long time now that all crypto is this monkey business, right? It's it's all nonsense. The bigger fool fallacy mostly. Well, so the kind of scheme and I don't know if I get this right, but I think I would get it pretty good.

22:43 It's, These two outsiders come into a village, let's say, in Africa, right? And, they say we're researchers, you know, and I'm the one guys that's financing the research is a rich financier, and they have all the, they show they present that way. Right. And they tell the locals, we'll give you a dollar for every monkey that you bring us or however much money.

23:06 Right. And so the villagers are like, oh, that's a cool, you know, the locals are like, oh, that's a cool deal, right? There's lots of monkeys around here. They start going around gathering up monkeys. And these two researchers, financiers, whatever the hell they are. As promised, pay out for each monkey. Right? And the locals are happy. Monkey population goes down a little bit, and they have all this monkeys in this big warehouse, building or shaft or whatever it all in cages.

23:31 And, they don't even say what they're doing with the monkeys as they have monkeys. Well, a couple of weeks go by and they say, you know what? We're going to pay $10 now for every monkey because we need more monkeys. No. Right now, all of a sudden, the locals are like, damn, $10. And then, highly motivated, they go out and start rounding up every buggy they can find.

23:51 All right, I'll right. And, so payout is the same, you know. Well, same scenario complete go by. I'm giving 100 for every monkey. Yeah. Now they're like, Holy shit. Right. They all go running out and go monkeys after they go far and wide, gathering up these monkeys. Right. And, Sure enough, everyone that brings the monkeys in gets $100 pay out there.

24:13 Super stoked. Yeah, yeah, well, the main guy, the the the rich financier, has to temporarily take a reprieve to deal with some business elsewhere. Well, I don't, and, the guy that's left behind, his assistant tells all the locals that when he comes back, we'd be given $1,000 per monkey. Right? Jesus. And he's like, let me tell you.

24:36 Let's let's let's let's do this. What I'll do is I'll give these monkeys back to you guys that we have in captivity. Right. I'll give you guys the monkeys. You give me 500 for each monkey, right? And when he comes back, you can give it one for each one of the monkeys, right? You get 1000 for each monkey.

24:54 Right, right. So they're like, oh, hell yeah. And they go, and they they cash in everything they can. They get rid of all their gold and turn it into liquid cash by all these fucking monkeys back for thousands and thousands of dollars. Has a stock a fungible currency? No, this guy has, you know, the assistant now it has this huge waterfowl.

25:13 I'm saying he's got a stack of books. Yeah, a bunch of shit, right? Can take and move easily somewhere else instead of a monkey, which is harder to transport. You got a fever? Yeah. So now all the monkeys are back with the villagers, you know, and the villagers are hanging on to them. And then the next day that even the assistant is gone.

25:28 Right, right. And the net effect was the villagers gave away all their fortune and are now left with the same monkeys that were there to begin with. Right. And ultimately, what? They left the place with five x profit. Just. Yeah. Walked away with all their their everything. Walk away with it. All right. Yeah. Because it was fucking monkey business.

25:47 There was no it was a monkey business. There was no, no desire for the monkeys that ever. And that plays into what I was saying. The bigger fool fallacy is just exactly what you described. You hold on to, you buy something pain, hoping that someone else is going to be a bigger pool and pay more money for here.

26:05 Right? So you know, just x, y, z shit coin or, you know, you name it, something coin and you know, it's cheap or whatever. It's based on this idea model. It's based on how how much moonlight Santorum coin. Sure, sure, sure. Very frothy.

26:25 Trump's diaper coin. Yeah.

26:29 So.

26:32 So it could be, you know, anything? Insert thing here. Coin with some type of idea behind it. Some some financier, you know, throws a couple million behind making it. So it's on the blockchain and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. And then maybe even pumps it up with some money and that's this guy was doing right.

26:47 Right. Well, but he had an entire exchange that wasn't just based on his coin. It had a lot of other stuff. So it's just a little bit more sophisticated monkey business, right? It's just monkey business with a technological sophistication to it. But it's the same fucking classic scheme. And the thing is, everyone basically thought we were past the point of these exchanges defrauding people, their founders running away with the money, drama, where the founders end up running with the money and getting killed, you know, and then on the clip that I saw, they showed this guy's golfer and I was like, what the hell?

27:23 He's retarded looking like that. There's a looker for you. Yeah. What does she look like? Oh my goodness. Like he's hot or what? No, no. Strange, juvenile looking, weird body type. I mean, okay, like little baby teeth being a strange him. Weird glasses. You seen him, right? Yeah. He's, like, kind of frumpy and. Yeah, like, looks like it looks like a, guy that's got, like, a level 28 wizard.

27:49 And. Right, I'm even with a couple billion dollars. You think he could pull anything better than what you just described? Well, you know, in some cases, perhaps. Yeah, right. But in some cases, perhaps, like, that's part of the. You never see him coming. Yeah. Type thing. Right. You know. Yeah. He everything is everything. Everything in Hollywood and in the big dollar arena is all smoke and mirrors.

28:12 It's all show. It's all it's all television. And, you know, there are rumors that basically that came out in a meeting he had with an internal meeting just before this whole thing collapsed, where basically he admitted to buying a couple of other exchanges, liquidating those exchanges, pumping up with them and playing the shell game and totally the shell game, the Ponzi scheme, whatever you want to say, failed for him.

28:43 Eventually, I mean, it failed. He's still just short of a billionaire, though. Well, until they take it all away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until they take it all away. Because it's fraud. Right? But I'm saying, you know, it's still pretty good. You know, he came out if he can find some way to keep it and he might I don't know, I doubt it.

29:06 A lot of people are very angry. The poses. There were a bunch of celebrities like Tom Brady and others who invested heavily in this. So, you know, you capitalize some some greedy, you know, shyster capitalizes on the greed of other people looking to get rich overnight off of some concepts. And a lot of those people are already rich, so they throw a whole bunch of money at this, you know, clamoring to like, oh, you know, it's gonna let me become I'm going to get this back tenfold.

29:35 And now I'm going to be able to buy that next, you know, whoever. Bigger thing, shiny object. I'm just glad Tom Brady's wife still has cash, but she's out there messing with other people, so who knows how long that's going to last. Yeah. Was it Tom Brady to see the one that was defrauding the welfare people? Was that him?

29:52 I don't know, it might have been. He's a he sent expatriates. Yeah. Carol this season okay I see but I thought, I thought one of those like famous quarterback, you know, famous names, celebrities were involved with some kind of welfare scheme, but let's assign it to him. Sure. You know, it's not like our podcast has enough reach to get a defamation suit.

30:15 Yeah, well, why would you be different? How are we? Definitely anybody anyway, we're just talking about, like, what we heard in the news. Yeah, well, that's what we think. We are going to attribute it to Tom Brady. I mean, I'll fact check it. Yeah.

30:30 I mean, I remember SouthPark did a hilarious thing about Tom Brady's poop for fecal transplant. Did they really? Yeah. The fecal transplant stuff is crazy of a friend of mine at work is, sister who lives in Germany. You know, universal health care. Needed it. Oh, yeah. Inevitably. Right. Inevitably, human beings are going to figure out that a huge part of the overall health is their good.

30:56 Is your bacteria flora? Yeah. Throughout your body. And so and that will be augmented in the future. Oh my. They did this very ham fisted, fecal transplant, you know, and very invasive and balls, a lot of work, but a lot of work to put it in a blender and injected with a turkey baster. If someone else has asked, how is that a lot of work?

31:16 It doesn't always work. And sometimes you have to do it more times. There are multiple visits involved over a period of months, so I'm saying I don't think it's worked yet. Another another treatment. So that's what I'm saying. There's a lot of work. It's a protracted process, protracted that you like that love it, but it doesn't always result in success.

31:43 Well, she ended up getting a transplant from a 23 year old athlete. Yeah, right. Exactly. Someone did work. Of course, you did introduce, like, a really healthy flora from somebody who's very healthy. She did. She looks 25 years younger. She's way more energetic through a penis. Hey, man. One of the guys who used to be my boss, he, got a bone marrow transplant, and.

32:09 Oh, that's totally different thing. That's. That's what I was going to say. He he, in essence, is, for all intents and purposes, a woman now. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Hey, man, if I got leukemia or something else and need that bone marrow transplant. Bring on, bring on the breast. Hell, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll take this other over death. And, you know, there's there's so many there's so many derivatives of this, like what's possible.

32:36 Medical science. And what people don't understand is that in the, in the technological future, in the, in the more technical advanced future, your, your complete identity is going to be editable from so many different levels, like more or less what's in your mind and what's what your body is composed of, or from its hormones to its actual rewriting DNA after, you know, not just in the womb, in utero, like literally DNA revision throughout your life to correct errors, to ever play those BioShock games, the boy games.

33:12 BioShock? BioShock? No. I'm familiar with them, but I never played them. But the future is going to be. Humanity is going to be this, you know, not a discrete thing anymore. Well, society where to buy those kind of things. Right. So humanity in the future is going to be this huge blurred line and not that it isn't already, but in the future it's going to be like it's extended, blurred to the point where there will be no discrete way to define it.

33:40 But there again, so this, this game and so what's new where you could buy all of these things kind of explored the whole mental component of it. And generally buying all these genetic modifications, buying all of these things, these powers, these augmentations drove people nuts in the game and like it happening. Good life, good plot. Yeah, yeah, I like it.

34:07 Well, so, you know, inevitably the entire, species, the entire biological living biosphere of this world will be editable. Yeah. You know, and that sounds like just a simple statement, but think about the implications. So I've said this before. I repeat it because definitely worth repeating is that the Earth itself is not just this planet, it's a planet.

34:34 Plus the life forms that have that have lived on it. Well, yeah, it's the life that live, that do live that will live. Yes. The life forms that have lived on this planet have transformed the planet many, many times over. In our geological past, we've gone beyond terraforming it. We've turned it into a collective organism that would not have existed if we hadn't have existed.

34:55 And then said organisms that live at any given time can augment the entire T of the Earth the biosphere, the lithosphere, the atmosphere, right, the composition, the gases in the atmosphere, for example. Well, yeah, we've edited that heavily. And so you have this transformation over the composition of Earth over iterations of various dominant lifeforms. Right. And so humans are just the latest craze.

35:22 And inevitably with humans in our technology, we're going to synthesize a new world in the future. So you can imagine like in a completely we hope. Well what I think a lot of animal species don't hope not. Hope not. But. Right. You know, and then, like I said, what what how humans are even defined is going to be a blurred line and going to be completely different in the future.

35:47 So inevitably when we have the technology, which we already kind of do, but we have the technology to fully terraform the entire Earth and manage every single accident. Now, yeah, we just do it through scale. Yeah. Right now. And just like, just just like the mollusks did during the, the post Cambrian period. Right. Like the Dover cliffs of all these, the white Dover cliffs are nothing but like calcium carbonate shells for millions of years sediment, because there was this period of time where they were dominant, because they the of the environmental right missions.

36:23 That's right. Shallow warm water. Right. For in a certain area over millions of years causing like a mile thick sedimentary layer of of of dead mollusk shells. Yeah. I mean crazy right. And so that's now a permanent not permanent but necessary permanent. But that's a major geological feature. Now that's literally a mountain made of dead animal curses.

36:47 Yeah. You know, then you have the coal band around the entire earth and you have the reserves around the whole earth. All these are come from dead or organic geological periods, the result of how the earth had been changed by the denizens of that geological period. Right. So the sunlight coming into Earth being the primary source of energy?

37:07 There are there's geothermal, thermal, but the primary energy source has been the sun for all these billions of years. Right, right. With life thriving under that life, living and dying instead. And then plant matter being largely, you know, all this creating sedimentary layers in the earth, reshaping the composition and the biology and chemistry of the Earth itself.

37:28 Right? Right. Which then now our species emerges, and then we proceed to rapidly disrupt it on the, on a, rapidly on a geological scale, disrupt it. Right. But at the same time, we're just doing the same thing every other species have done just in a shorter time scale. And so you take that chance and outsized impact. And the systems that are in place are less able to adapt or assimilate.

37:51 Yes. But then we'll get to this point in our technological capabilities where it doesn't matter. We just transform it into what we want, right? If we get there and I love the I love us, we'll get there, but we're ham fisted morons. No we're not. We'll get there, we'll get there. We're we're we're, there are hands. There are hands with some morons.

38:09 Yes, but there's also for every one of those, there's, you know, good half dozen geniuses out there, you know, that care. Yeah. You know, so there's, there's there's enough. We still rely on our nature. We can still rely on our nature to, like, catch us. So, like, the human nature itself is the social safety net for humanity, right?

38:34 So what I'm saying. But that doesn't mean that bad actors can't have a serious effect. Especially especially with that, especially with the forced multiplication of technology. Right. They have. Yeah. I mean, we've got certain things that are a canker upon our society that have arisen from technology, certain inequities like, the wealth gap, certain right problems like social media addiction, certain problems like, you know, dating addiction, stuff like that.

39:06 Yeah. So you have occasionally a bad actor, you know, emerge, like I said, of the people are good, but occasionally you have a bad actor that comes up someone that's, you know, corrupt for some reason, you know, who knows? Bad genes, bad drugs, bad environment, whatever leads a person to be a certain way, or just the person who's chose to be bad could be right.

39:26 And, you know, with technology as a force multiplier can then do a lot of damage. Which is one of the, one of the things we need to be that's the cautionary tale of technology is like one bad actor could be. You know what I mean is like you know press the button or whatever. Right, right. And so technology has kind of created that avenue, unfortunately for a small number of bad actors to do a lot of harm.

39:49 Right. But at the same time, we can still society is still holding on with the prevailing goodness of human nature. So it keeps the world going around, you know, like you drive down the street, people don't try to run you off the road, right? You know, you know, everywhere you walk, someone's not trying to mug you or hurt you, right?

40:07 So, like, we rely every day on the good graces of society. We did. And we contribute to those good graces as well, right? And so in a myriad of ways known and unknown, you know, I mean, even just a phrase or two now and then defending someone or whatever. There you go. And so across the world, the 8 billion people on the planet are being held together cohesively by the glue of human nature, right?

40:31 A positive, the positive or positive human nature. And so the extension of that when you blanket technology is a general thing over people, over time, you're going to have that nature multiplied through the force multiplication properties of technology. So with that being said, the future looks good. The problem would be is if we take technology and concentrated in the hands of a few that are the bad people.

40:55 Well, the problem also is that would be the that would be the fear. So there's a secondary fear for me that.

41:03 Due to, you know, some of these capabilities being very nascent and new and also some of the modeling, some of the understanding that we're coming, coming to of how adversely affect the affected the world, you know, the, the biosphere, every everything that we depend on. That we aren't going to fix it fast enough. Yeah. There's there's many people that, that, that think mathematically it's impossible for us to engineer our way out of this problem of like climate change for example.

41:38 Yeah. I mean that's one of the most largely leaning problems we have. So interestingly, we engineer our way into the problem we did, but by accident. Okay, maybe maybe not, but most likely yes. So why doesn't it stand to reason that we can't engineer a way out of it? Yeah, well, the people that say we can't, it's because they said there's no money in it,

42:01 Yeah. Which historically, when you look at their either has to be money or a social, you know what a social driver that ties into money? Well, as of right now, in American culture, it's money, right? Right. Well, I'm saying is there have been instances of massive undertakings that took the collective effort of a society, everything from the pyramids to going to space.

42:26 So basically you're saying leadership, leadership, broadcasting the correct vision, getting everyone jazzed up? Yeah. So economic thing. Yeah. Something that's willing to apply them. Hey, guys. Something that's willing to apply to the machinery of your out of the society. You have sway over to one aim, a single aim. So a massive sway in culture through a series of leaders that have a strong cult of personality that can help people see the light and transform people's thinking about what we need to do for the future.

42:57 I mean, that's the easiest combined with massive financial incentives to do the right thing. There we go. You know, so as it stands right now, if you look at the leadership in America particularly, right, we've talked about this zillion times, is that business and politics are one and the same. And so everything's driven by money, right. So therefore good morning.

43:21 So therefore since everything is driven by money, is that unless there's a financial incentive to fix climate, they ain't going to have it. Jogging librarian Hill. No. Here's the interesting looking fellow.

43:39 So, like, you know, words matter.

43:45 So, you know, post Aids, Freddie Mercury, Hitler.

43:52 Is is is one thing, right?

43:58 Interesting looking gentleman is another, I think post Aids. Freddie Mercury, the love child of Freddie Mercury and Hitler is definitely the way to go.

44:13 I feel like he would have had to agree with our With Artists Positively podcast, where we reveal the inner terrible human beings we are. Bit by bit, slowly unveiled. Yeah, yeah. We slowly unpack and unravel and unveiled the terrible core, disgusting entities we truly are. It's in the rotis that we carry with this day to day. The terrible, horrible mental schisms here.

44:39 We had a we had a fecal transplant, a pure tar evil.

44:45 From a demon like night. Like literally was a demon. Yeah. It was a purified, distilled essence of a demon. Yeah. Given via turkey baster enema. Really cool side effect, though. Guys, I have a penis now.

45:03 That you used to. Raven. Endless array of chicks, you know? You know. Sure. I saw those videos. I came weird as hell. I can't understand why people think anime is sexy. It does not appeal to me whatsoever. Oh, it. You know, like just the facsimile of some of some persona. Terrible facsimile is being harmed, you know? Well, yeah.

45:27 Well, okay. Hentai different level. I was just talking about a big boom big blue data metric. That doesn't matter. Okay, I really don't know a lot of the new ones here. Okay. Is like the tentacle attack Rafe. Terrible. Oh yeah. Okay. That and then the, standard anime is like the big eyed big. Yeah. The big, big hitting, right.

45:52 Gotcha, gotcha. With no nose. That's one thing that bothers you. Or a little tiny, just little tiny triangle. Yeah, yeah, I can't stand that. And huge eyes that have that, like, spot in the eye that wiggles back and forth all the time. Yeah. This little gleam in the eye. But yeah. So I can't stand anime in general.

46:12 Generally hate the plots, generally hate the drawing style. Gotcha. And I was doing I was kind of trying to bond with summers kids and watch some of it a couple of years ago, and I kind of halfway fallen asleep. So her oldest and you just keep seeing in the anime what you don't like in the anime, right?

46:31 Right. And her mind is tuned into that. Her oldest, Julian, I guess, while I was sleeping, started to talk shit about me. It was like, yeah, Sean's probably gonna like drop off later to this or there. Oh, God. And so I was awake enough, I heard it. Oh, was that a thing to like? People sexually obsessed? Oh, yeah.

46:50 They're, like, credibly into it. And there's, So I kind of crack an eyeball. I was like. And I basically told him in a few short words, I think it's really fucking dumb, but you can go ahead and do it if you want the not the masturbation. Right. Yeah. Everybody likes self pleasure. Yeah. Not saying that.

47:13 Do they. I don't know I don't know I probably I'm not really sure. Probably in the majority. Yeah. Yeah probably. But regardless I was like I pretty much told him yeah that's not going to be what I'm going to do that to. But yeah, I just don't get it, I really don't. It's like I'd much rather deal look at.

47:36 I was gonna, I don't know, cartoons. They just don't make sense to me as far as tying them in with sexuality. Okay, so one thing about the cartoon is you can create the ultimate image. Like there's no blemishes. It can make sure you can you can draw, it can be drawn in any which I feel like that cartoon cool world, that movie was kind of that idea.

47:59 I'm not familiar with it. Okay. It was something that Kim Basinger and, Brad Pitt starred in. Okay. And ultimately the idea was Brad Pitt was a.

48:13 Cartoonist who was in jail. Okay. And he was drawing over the years, he had drawn all these different characters, and it built this world out, including Hollywood. Okay. Which was a girl. And it's basically a drawing of Kim Basinger, I see. Nice. All right. And, you know, I was like you said, it's completely unblemished, you know, with a certain bent towards the blond with a I see, I see.

48:44 Well, and then, you know, kind of like, I guess, I guess you're still going for a certain type and there's a general genre. Right. So that would equate to that facsimile would equate to some, you know, particular group of humans as well. Yeah. Like, you know, kind of by proxy. But kind of the idea I'm going with here is that like it's it's less of a less victim driven thing because, you know, it's just a cartoon.

49:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the cartoon. So he ended up in Cool World and he ended up being seduced by his ideal woman to try to let them all out into the real world. Cool. I like the premise. Sounds like a Roger rabbit crossover, but darkly adult. Interesting. Okay, I think I can watch that. Sounds kind of interesting. It was kind of cool.

49:35 A pretty cool concept. So, it's like the reverse matrix. Yeah. But so there is a certain degree I think of like, you know, the whole idea of simulated violence in, in CGI, like video game kind of world or cartoon driven world or even inevitably, you know, simulated violence was inevitable, will probably take place against machines are.

49:57 So you can eventually we'll probably have like a, simulator that is augmented reality with real entities inside of it, like robots that are dressed up as humans that you literally can, can annihilate. Right, okay. And so going up from the put your exit picture on the punching bag to creating your ex's avatar in a robot form. Yes.

50:23 To kill. Yes. I don't think simulated violence is going away anytime soon, so I can imagine hyper versions of that for sure. Yeah, I've always maintained that wrestling is everything the male psyche craves. It's simulated violence. You're talking about pro wrestling? The fake wrestling? Yeah, it's simulated violence. It's, drama and it's it's an s I gotcha. Yeah.

50:50 I love when these, like, classic wrestlers, you know, when they tell stories about how people are really getting beat up, like how it was so hard on their bodies. And I could see that. I could see it being pretty rough on the body. It is built for a second try to tell me that's just real. No, but because.

51:07 But they really are getting slammed. Yes, yes, they really are getting, you know, buffeted about and sometimes punched a kick. Yes. If a 400 pound man picks up a 350 pound man, flips them upside down and Powell drives him headfirst into the ground, that hurts. He's dead. Yeah, in real life. Yeah. There we go. Like dead. You're right from one hit because, you know, his cervical vertebrae is probably going to be crushed.

51:34 It's that and, you know, plus plus plus. Yeah. So his way and the full weight of the other guy coming down on the skull. Right. And spine probably got multiple skull fractures. Cervical vertebrae crushed. It's oh no. Boom boom. Not to mention one full all out man punch in the face by a 400 pound guy. So another peer who you are.

51:56 That's going to hurt. That's going to cause damage, right? Yeah. So none of them would have teeth. Yeah. They'd all have cauliflower ears and multiple. Their noses would always look like like mincemeat. Wet spaghetti. Yeah. And, yeah, etc.. So we could go that way. Okay, so if the crap was even remotely real, right, these people would be within a short period of time, seriously disfigured, to say the least.

52:25 Oh, it's so funny. There's a long time wrestler that played a lot of different characters. One of them was cactus Jack. Yeah. Okay. Right. Mick foley yeah. Okay. He, he's been very vocal about the impact that, Elon Musk's is having a society. Really? Yeah, he's a strange person to be a spokesperson for such a thing.

52:55 And he, he's been he's been very coherent and cogent in his arguments. Wow. And, he left Twitter easily because of it. Wow. Yeah. So it turns out the guy not only was this, like, physical maniac, he's like, just a brainiac, too, you know? I mean, yeah, I love it, I respect it, I love it, that's what that's what probably every, you know, pseudo celebrity or pseudo celebrity needs is like a genius sidekick that's there behind the scenes all the time.

53:29 Well. All right. I love that idea. Why don't you call it a sign me up? God, we want it. Yeah. The Marcus Aurelius that you can have a person who would follow them, and they would just whisper things in their ear to keep them humble like you are. But a man, I love it. Everyone needs said person.

53:48 I mean, hopefully AI becomes that for all of us someday. And like a true friend, therefore you all the time. This morning I was went off on a tear because I woke up at like 2:00 in the morning and read for like three hours. Really weird. You read? Well, something that could jump tell them to something you're saying.

54:06 There is. Okay, so I answered one of my own questions I posted on the podcast the other day. I said, how do you take a text and imbue it with meaning so a I can process it and understand it, right? And one of the ways to do that. So I'm working my way through a paper that was written in 2017 by Google.

54:29 Google researchers called All You Need Is Attention. And it is about giving using these things called transformers to give AI attention and focus and context. Exactly. Just like the human being focus to find reality. And it well, it's like a little bit of memory where they can remember the word or what it means, and then that memory and persist.

54:59 Right, right. And so then they understand the full object said a sentence or the paragraph. Right. By this changing definition of meaning I understand. So the so the circular reference that we call language, what they do is they just keep going around that circular reference and then adding little tokens of meaning along the way until the whole thing builds up a little bit.

55:19 Like semantic tree. Makes total sense, makes total sense. So that's probably what we do in our own brains. Our brains do the same thing. Yeah. Where we build like a three of meaning with modifiers and shades of meaning. And I said that actually before, in the past I said that, to every word, to every person cannot be exactly like has to be nuanced, somewhat different.

55:40 It is. And so that's the same thing with the computer. But it can do it like even with a much greater magnitude. And it can do it to it can understand each version of nuance potentially. Yeah. It's, it's, it's actually remarkable that we can convey information with language on how subjective and multi every word can be, even in even every word taking on its variance.

56:01 Highly subjective, subjective. But we have a shared pool of experience and meaning. Yes. Through one of those things is the cultural touchstone of a dictionary. Once those things came about, we we came up with the standard way to spell in a standard set of meanings. Semantics came into its own. Yeah, I mean, eggplant emoji. I don't think anyone knows thinks of that as an eggplant.

56:24 And I was reading the other day on. I think it was The Verge. They did. They were doing research. Hey, you know, 13 common emojis. What do you three different generations think they mean? Of course. Wildly different, of course. So, you know, I could see someone like texting their wife or girlfriend or whatever, the eggplant followed by a little wedge of cheese.

56:46 Right. And one wife, one person comes home to eggplant parmesan. The other one comes home to a slap in the face and says, did you give me. You gave me chlamydia, you son of a bitch. Oh, I was going to say, I was thinking when you said I slapped the face. I was thinking cock slap to the face.

57:01 They didn't use the eggplant emoji. Oh.

57:06 Or, you know, you can take that so many different ways. Like, perhaps the gentleman wants to role play something really cheesy, right? Right. Who knows? There's cheese, something cheesy. And my penis so so like so like learning the combination of emojis is a form of speech as well, right? Yeah. That, you know, there's certain combination of emojis you just know, right?

57:28 We should talk about emojis. You know, maybe we should, but, you know, perhaps tomorrow I'll actually tell the full story that I was telling the other day. Oh, yeah? What's a continuation of that? That'll work. What I might do is like for one podcast is just tell you the whole story and get your get your what I thought we were going to possibly do get your feedback along the way.

57:43 Okay. Like questions and and a go to editions of information. So I guess the follow on I want to hold on I want to another follow. One thing I want to talk about is, I guess I personally, I, like you had said and some inroads into it this company had made a called meme and then of are Bush's memex memory portmanteau from memory expanders.

58:11 These are the kind of things I was putting together this morning. Anyway, we'll talk about that sometime I love it. Yeah, that's a good topic.