Biotech, AI Actors & Monkey Business

0:00 And my grandma is not a fucking Trump supporter. There's not that much of a fucking idiot. Grandma brings her $5,000 trump note to the bank. Like what? Why don't you like the cash, dude? Well, thank God my grandmother was caned when I first found out my family were Republican. Was when Obama was coming into office. The first time.

0:20 I just assumed we were Democrats. Because here. Right thinking and forward looking people. Right. And, now my, grandma calls me whenever Obama is about to be elected and she's like, I hope you're not mad at me. I voted for Obama. I said, so did I. You know, it's like, why wouldn't I? She's like, you know, we're, Republicans, right?

0:44 And I was like, no, I knew my dad was. Donate. Donate. Like donate to Trump's campaign and have it be. Biden notes.

0:56 So what we're talking about is Trump, making these, like, fake currency with his face on it and some outside, you know, fringe people, dumbass that wanted to make money thinking that that actually was legal money. Like actual money like spent $5,000 on this was a $5,000 trump note and then brought said note to the bank, eventually to the bank thinking it was legal tender.

1:22 The bank looking at that person like, what? So you can kind of think like, you know, hey, it's got a president's face on it, right? Right, right. And this is exactly the kind of thing that Trump would play do. It is right. Good lord. So, Yeah, it'd be great if there's this other one I saw recently.

1:44 Like, do you remember when his donation site, like, someone would get on there and try to donate, like, stop the steal or. Yeah, Make America. And the default check mark was do this monthly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Save America fund or whatever. And, so yeah, the default check mark is like, not only make this a donation, but make a recurring.

2:06 Yes, you know, weekly, biweekly like that once a month. You like. Yeah. We're hit you every paycheck. Yeah. Right. Right, right. The Trump subsidy. Yeah. Oh, and, so the latest one is like, you know, donate to Herschel Walker, you know, immediately. Yeah. Because because he's a fucking lying piece of shit who his son even disowned. Yeah. Or donate to him immediately because, you know, the, the, the, the Liberal Democrats are trying to, make it so, so black.

2:41 That black can be blamed is a mental disease that he is now cured of for having paid for an abortion and having forgotten about it. Oh, my God, he's he's cured of this mental disease, though I love it. Sure. Why not? And, you know, so the idea in Trump's sight now is, you know, rush donation to Herschel Walker.

3:04 You know, we need this. We need, we need we need this guy. His son said something to the effect of, okay, when my dad went out for office, I was behind him. All of our family was until he started lying and doing what he had always done. He's made a life of making other people's lives miserable. Jesus Christ.

3:27 I don't really know much about him, but on this Trump website now there's like rush $100 donation, $500 thousand, 10,000, whatever you can do. Right. And when you when you click it, let's say you donate 100 bucks. Yeah. $90 goes to Trump and ten goes to Herschel Walker. So they even make it that transparent that you can see it on the next page.

3:47 Yeah, you can see it. And then to make adjustment if you want to okay. So there's sliders but the well boxes. Yeah. But the default is that 90% goes to Trump 10% goes. They don't want to stop man okay. You do realize it was like so friggin far away right. Yeah. But they're you know they didn't. Perspective is off the shelf.

4:09 My perspective is always off. I always see out of when I. What? Wait, what? So like the ultimate sniper? No, no, not the ultimate sniper. Just, has, like, a death perception because, so my right. I could have been fixed before I was three if my parents just took me to the doctor and they gave me an eye patch for a few weeks.

4:31 Wow. Okay. It's, pretty much. The problem is it's, lazy. I. But it's not a wandering eye. And so just as a focus. Okay. And, Mitt has come out with, like, a game that would cure it, but they haven't, released the game to the, public. I see, and there are a bunch of other research, like you're supposed to be a book from the 1890s that has eye exercises that could cure it.

4:58 Oh, we're okay. So basically, you can look at me in one look down the road at the same time, like Chameleon Eyes. That's cool. No, no, no, I don't see out of the right eye. My brain shuts it off. What? Yeah. So the signal's so shitty because it doesn't focus. My brain's like we're throwing that away, so I will see out of my left eye.

5:17 No shit. Yeah, I did not know that. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, well, I hope the game comes out of you. No shit. Is that then? Monocular vision is, pretty critical. It is. I mean, I have to double check several times a second when driving to make sure I'm in the right place. And parking is a bear. So here's an idea for you.

5:39 Is that, human beings are from planet Earth. They're actually from Mars. So, like, when the climate of Mars started shitting the bed, magnetosphere core cooled down, the magnetosphere started to deteriorate. Right? Plunging their civilization into chaos. Atmosphere was starting to decline. And for scrambling over the remaining resources, there was a massive nuclear war which entered the planet and created what we see today accelerated everything.

6:09 Universe. Atmosphere evaporated off even faster. Type the offspring that there might actually be a trio of pyramids over there. Yeah, yeah. So, Yeah, I was watching this idea. Yeah, some video I saw. And, that may come from an old book by the guy who created Tarzan. Was, Well, the bottom line is that, like, people will fucking believe anything because, you know, the the the DNA from human beings is, like, found in common ancestors with all these other great species.

6:44 Sure. And it's like, you know, kind of put two and two together here, you know, the why why would you make this so, like Occam's razor, right. The most simple solution is most likely the real right. Yeah. Like proportionately, the more simple answer typically is probably the more correct. Yeah. Like and more correct is what we probably can just say.

7:07 Yeah. And people have an intuition for the, for the most likely answer. You know, generally if you know something about a topic, you can kind of wine your way to sniff out the most likely thing. Yeah, your spouse is like all of a sudden getting in this health kick, get in better shape, is wearing perfume and is like not coming home from work.

7:23 See the perfumes? The cute personally? Well, whatever. I'm just saying, like, you know, there's a there's a possible explanation that there is she's really trying to revitalize her or, you know, fucking the personal trainer. Yeah. So she might be. Margie is merging into a green sex goehring her way to a better life. Yeah. So, Margie and tell her green is doing that.

7:49 Yeah, you can tell it's like political season because we're talking a lot more about politics and stuff. But, it's funny because. Yeah, Marcia and Margie, Margie and Hillary, Marjorie Taylor Greene, was, Yeah. Yeah. She divorced her husband of late recently. Divorce. Right. And she's. And the trying to be the darling of the right wing. Yeah, yeah.

8:11 She was having some kind of tantric sex with the sex guru Guy Rao. Wow. You know, and. Wow. Okay, more power to her. Yeah. All right, I guess, you know, I mean, I'm not gonna not into this, I, I think it was the first time I ever heard about tantric sex was, in relation to staying the same.

8:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, that's a hell of a job title to have a Hindu. You put that on your business card. It's sex guru. Yeah, I'm the sex guru. Yeah. That's, And I just wonder how you monetize that one. Like, if people pay per session, is it, like. Or is it like a training thing?

8:49 There are some movie like that, guru that, the guy that did Austin Powers and Shrek where I can't remember. Is there a mike Myers? Mike Myers? Mike Myers, you know, was really came off the success of called gold member and, the Austin Power series. Yeah. The came off the success of that which was did a really good at the box office.

9:08 People loved it and on this one just changed his career. He did the Guru and yeah, now he's gone. Yeah. Like it was such a failure. Well, the same thing happens. Dana Carvey, he did master of disguise. Okay. And then it died. Okay. He's you know, I've seen him like, twice since the. Yeah, they brought him back once on SNL that I happened to catch as, playing w okay, okay.

9:37 But,

9:41 So it's funny because, like, the sheer number of talented actors trying to get into Hollywood, I'm sure is just a tsunami of people. Oh, yeah. You know, like, come on, who wouldn't want to be a movie star? You know, if you if you had some acting talent and, so you can imagine, like, as some of these actors get popular and have a few, like, hit movies or whatever, they get these egos that are just insane, like, out of control, right?

10:08 Well, like, Christian Bale is famed for having an out-of-control ego and, berating people. It's been recorded. Yeah. They end up being like these monsters on the set, and, you know, they're just terrible for terrible to work with. Pretty bad. Primadonnas, you know? Yeah. And, so funny because don't they realize that there's people with just as much talent as them in possibly more that are, that are, that are hungry.

10:35 Yeah. You know, they, they're willing to do the work that are willing to, you know, be easier to work with. I mean, the reality show community, they're they were doing like, a reunion type thing. And, it was brought up that they weren't even sure if it was legal for Chevy Chase to show up for the reunion because of the legal proceedings that had arisen out of his tenure.

11:00 Chef. How strange. Because he was such a terrible, terrible human being to work with, they pretty much had to do the equivalent of, like, beyond a restraining order to get him on that seat. And apparently he was just such a misanthropic, terrible person. What the hell? I didn't know that. Yeah, because you wouldn't think that from seeing the movies.

11:26 You right. You think you'd be funny, jovial. He was involved with SNL during its inception. You know, and I haven't heard anything about him either. Yeah, I don't know if he's still alive. I'm. I think he is, because a fairly recent article I read about that, reunion. Okay. Okay. Well, so my, my thinking here, though, is just like, you know, these people at some point have to realize that they have to be pretty dramatically replaceable, you know?

11:52 Right. And, you think that along with would keep some form of humility or fear, right? If not humility, fear. Right. Right. And and that maybe it would present itself as the phenotype of humility. Right, right right, right. Yeah. Oh, shit. I got to use words to interject. Nice. And, I think probably that that a lot of them, you know, do have some form, some degree of humility and probably balance that pretty well and, and then keep it kind of normal.

12:20 Yeah. But, also don't forget their CGI avatars coming up really soon. Yeah. I mean, it was claimed that, it turned out not to be true, but it was claimed by a company out of India that, what's his name? Bruce Willis had sold his likeness and voice to them for movies. Oh, okay. And then he, his PR team gets on, you know, social media and decries it, says, no, this is not true.

12:45 I see, I see, but it's the thing is, it's possible. I mean, they did that in the last Terminator movie with, Schwarzenegger. Gotcha. It looked like CGI, but still. Well, it's what I'm saying is the technology for that is so good that inevitably, you know, you'll just have voice actors and the and the actor on screen will be completely digital.

13:05 I mean, that's right. Right. And you may not even have a voice actor because what they say. Right. His voice. Dude. Sure. Yeah. What they did, well, what they did for Top Gun Maverick. Maverick. Was it the newest one? So Val Kilmer has lost his voice in real life. In real life. Okay. And, it's some kind of disorder he has.

13:26 I'm not sure that developed, but ultimately, they still wanted him in the movie. So they contracted a firm to build his voice. Out of all of the clips and things he's ever said. Sure. Right. And they used AI processing and they built him a voice for the film. Yeah. There was some movie recently too, where they CGI different ages different, like Danny DeVito and whatever, like the mobster, you know, people, they they had them at different ages.

13:55 I don't know the name of the film. It's been a while, I don't recall, but, and I didn't see it, but there's supposedly like they show them as kids, they show them as, you know, middle aged and then then older elderly. Wow. And they completely, like, took their likeness and CGI, each one of those, wow, you know, phases.

14:12 It's, you know, so all I'm getting at is that inevitably, you know, it's there's a potential that Hollywood actors just completely replaced with fictitious. I think it's just AI driven CG guy persona. Right? Yeah. That, much like that, I rapper we were talking about. Yeah. That will inevitably, possess the ability to act better than any human ever could.

14:32 Right? Right. And they don't forget their lines. Right? And they don't need to be fed. They don't need a a trailer. They don't need, you know, any of the trappings of having an actor on set. There's no writer that says this person needs only green M&Ms. On Tuesday. You know? I love it. Yeah. So maybe, good riddance.

14:58 You know, maybe. Yeah, maybe the world doesn't need, these these hyper egomaniacs. I mean, if we're going to get rid of hyper egomaniacs, let's get rid of sports, too. How how can we do that? Well, I'm glad you mentioned that, because I think I thought many times about, remember the old Nintendo game back in the day, Tecmo Bowl?

15:17 Yeah, dude, it was shitty But yes. And you seen, those robot wars they battle, right? Right. Robot battles. It's kind of dumb, but, I can see inevitably that on the sideline, a series of technicians with joysticks and controllers, right, that are battling, you know, anthropomorphic robots that are of all. Yeah, or whatever sport or some new sport.

15:44 Yeah. Right. And taking each other out, destroying the robots is just part of the right normal flow of the game. Feel like, oh, we'd have to have them. We'd have to approach that uncanny valley, you know, that that place where they're creepily looking for us to like it. It. Yeah. So, so so right. And then the rules around, you know, a robot getting destroyed are significant.

16:05 Like, you know, there's rules just like the ranks work. Right. And you know, because people are going to invest millions in this and there are going to be sponsors attached to it and sponsor dollars. You don't want it destroyed. You have the Ship of Theseus argument eventually, like, okay, this robot's been all the parts have been replaced 50 times and it's still the robot that I sponsored.

16:25 Or is it still the robot on the piano? Yes, it is all right, because it wears that number and it has that likeness, right, right, right. It is because the company who built it says it is exactly that. Everything's like that anyway. Right? So yeah, you know, what's your identity? You know, you probably give me your name and your occupation.

16:43 And I'm constantly sloughing off cells. I'm constantly changing in various epigenetic and genetic ways are getting older. The telomeres are falling off of cells and they're dying constantly. You know, you have different genes that are activating and deactivating epigenetic. Exactly. That's what I'm saying genetically. And so we're all we're all in a constant state of flux. Right. And morphology.

17:06 And so just like the ship, you know, so what you're referring to for people that aren't aware is like if you had an ancient ship and over time a board would rot on that ship, they replace the board. Then inevitably over hundreds if not thousands of years, they're real. That every piece. Yeah, every single component of that ship rig change.

17:24 Is it still the same ship? That's the that's the philosophical argument. And, yes. Yeah. So the question is pretty simple. Yes. Because the thing is, it's imbued with the history and identity of said ship. Right. And that identity hasn't changed throughout its entire existence. You know, it's if people had forgotten what it was and it was just this ship and okay, you know, it's it's more or less like the whole versus the sum of the parts, you know, right.

17:55 Ideologies. Right. And the whole is always the legend, the, the idea surrounding it always transcend the physical and human beings think in terms of discrete objects more so than they think of constituent parts. Right? Right. You know, I think of you as as you, not your heart, liver, kidney there. And we you know, there's that whole concept of whenever a baby first learns to think of an object as an object and an object and it learns object permanence and.

18:22 Right, you know, it's like, yeah, we think of things as wholes or a complete thing. It performs a function or a set of functions. And then I guess in the abstract I see you as like your corporeal body. But in the majority I think of you as your from your personality. Like, okay, yeah, your interactions with me when I think of you, like in my mind's eye, if we weren't together.

18:43 Right. Yeah, I wouldn't think of, like I said, heart, kidney, lung. Yeah. You know, dead. I, you know, etc.. Yeah. You know, I think of the overall kind of general appearance of you, but mostly your personality. Oh, yeah. So in the majority, like, you know, my mind kind of abstracts my idea of your identity as those things.

19:06 Yeah. Yeah. Like I was thinking about this morning, this girl, Kathy, that I used to flirt with at my grandparents, you know, and it's like, what I thought of first was how, you know, feelings like our interactions. And that's what I remembered the most. Right? Right. Vague memory of what she looked like, but mainly, you know, just this stupid moment came just what, percolated to the top of my mind where I was in church, and I was making my brothers laugh or something stupid, and she looks over at me just completely.

19:41 I could feel that she was just completely shocked at what I was doing. And so it and I mean, how shocked she was. And if you shot across the room at me, I was like, wow, it's just great. So inevitably, like since the mind can abstract in that, in that kind of area. Right. And so obviously from what I understand, our brains are very efficient about recognizing faces.

20:10 From what I, from what I understand, yeah, neurologically that's a very low that's what we're one of the things we're built to do, right? Yeah. It's a very low neurological effort for us to identify a face. Yep. So and the memories are strong and they persist. So like, you see somebody after many, many years, they've even changed as they age and whatnot.

20:26 Your brain still immediately picks up on that. Friend Nina was talking about that the other day. Like someone who is. It was like the sister of an ex-boyfriend from high school recognized her out in public. Oh my God, I can't tell you how many times I've been like a Disney or like, I mean, I was overseas one time and somebody recognized me.

20:46 Dang. And it's like, I'm not a celebrity. I haven't. I've met lots and lots of people, obviously. Right. My gosh, not millions, right? It is definitely one of those small world things, man. I've been recognized over my life like someone just out of the blue. Chris. I know, and I'm like, oh, hey, guy. Yeah. You're like, I don't fucking know you.

21:09 Like, I vaguely recognize the face, but, like, that's it. Yeah. You know, and, for for some for other people, like, you know, hey, I don't think of you. Yeah, but but overall, for the most part, for my space gray. Yeah, but you did. No. No, I just, decided to run away with my money and not get caught up in all the drama like Elon Musk.

21:37 There's this new guy right in Alameda. Sam Baker Bankman white free bank or some shit. We've got a weird ass name trying to play a shell game with everybody and created all this fraud, and now it's probably in huge trouble. And I never lost billions of dollars. There's rumors that he might be in Argentina. There's,

21:55 Boy. Yeah, he's definitely not in the States. He claims to be in the Bahamas. All right. Know. So he's going to be facing something, right? Well, it's entirely possible as well that he stole about $2 billion. Oh, boy, oh, boy. So did we. Do we talk about the whole idea monkey business. Are you talking about it like, I don't know if he did not.

22:22 So where that phrase comes from? Yeah, I don't remember now. So monkey business is like, so, so, so my I've been saying for a long time now that all crypto is just monkey business, right? It's it's all nonsense. But the bigger fool fallacy mostly. Well, so the kind of scheme and I don't know if I guess exactly right, but I think I would get it pretty good is, these two outsiders come into a village, let's say, in Africa, right?

22:48 And, they say we're researchers, you know, and I'm the one guy is that's financing the research, is a rich financier, and they have all the, they show they present that way. Right. And they tell the locals, we'll give you a dollar for every monkey that you bring us or however much money. All right. And so the villagers are like, oh, that's cool.

23:10 You know, the locals are like, oh, that's cool. Deal. Hey, there's lots of monkeys around here. They start going around gathering up monkeys. And these two researchers, financiers, whatever the hell they are, as promised, payout for each monkey. Right. And, the locals are happy. The monkey population goes down a little bit, and they have all these monkeys in this big warehouse building or shaft or whatever, all in cages.

23:31 And, they don't even say what to do with the monkeys. And they have all these monkeys. Well, a couple of weeks go by and they say, you know what? We're going to pay $10 now for every monkey. Does he need more monkeys? No. Right now, all of a sudden, the locals are like, damn, $10. And then, highly motivated, they go out and start rounding up every monkey they can.

23:50 Frickin fine. All right, all right. And, so payout is the same. Yeah, well, same scenario. A couple weeks go by, I'm giving 100 for every monkey man. Yeah. Now they're like, Holy shit. Right. They all go run out and go go for monkeys. After that, go far and wide, gathering up these monkeys, right. And, sure enough, everyone that brings the monkeys in gets the hundred dollar payout.

24:13 They're super stoked. Yeah, yeah, well, the main guy, the the the rich financier, has to temporarily take a reprieve to deal with some business elsewhere, and, well, I don't. Right. And, the guy that's left behind, his assistant tells all the locals that when he comes back, we'll be giving $1,000 for monkeys, right? Jesus. And he's like, let me tell you, let's let's let's let's do this.

24:39 What I'll do is I'll give these monkeys back to you guys that we have in captivity. Right. I'll give you guys the monkeys. You give me 500 for each monkey, right? And when he comes back, you can give it 1000 for each one of the monkeys. Yeah, you get a thousand for each monkey, right? Okay. So they're like, oh, hell yeah.

24:57 And they go and they, they cash in everything they can. They get rid of all their gold that turned into liquid cash. Buy all these fucking monkeys back for thousands of dollars as a stock, as fungible currency. Yeah. This guy has, you know, the assistant now it has this huge. What I'm saying he's got a stack. Fungible currency.

25:15 Yeah, a bunch of shit. Right? Right. You can take and move easily somewhere else instead of a monkey, which is harder to transport and you got to feed it. Yeah. So now all the monkeys are back with the villagers, you know, and the villagers are hanging on to them. And then the next day that even the assistant has gone. Right?

25:29 Right. And the net effect was the villagers gave away all their fortune and are now left with the same monkeys out there to get one right. And ultimately, what they left the place with five profit. Just. Yeah, walked away with all their their everything. Walked away with it. All right. Yeah. Because it was fucking monkey business. There was no it was a monkey business.

25:50 There was no, no desire for the monkeys ever. And that plays into what I was saying. The bigger fool fallacy is just exactly you describe, you hold on, you buy something pain hoping that someone else is going to be a bigger fool and pay more money for it. Right. So you know, just xyz shitcoin or you know, you name it something coin and you know it's cheap or whatever.

26:14 It's based on this idea of models based on how how much Moonlite Santorum coin. Sure, sure, sure. Very frothy.

26:25 Trump's diaper coin. Yeah. So, so it could be, you know, anything. Insert thing here. Coin with some type of idea behind it. Some some financier, you know, throws a couple million behind making it. So it's on the blockchain and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah. And then maybe even pump it up with some money. And that's this FDX guy who's doing right, right.

26:48 Well, but he had an entire exchange that wasn't just based on his coin. It had a lot of other. Yeah. So yeah. So it's just a little bit more sophisticated monkey business, right? It's just monkey business with a technological sophistication to it. It is. But it's the same fucking classic scheme. And in the thing is, everyone basically thought we were past the point of these exchanges defrauding people, their founders running away with the money, drama, where the founders end up running late for money and getting killed.

27:17 You know, and then on the clip that I saw, they showed this guy's girlfriend, I was like, what the hell? He's retarded looking like that. There's a looker for you. What does she look like? Oh my goodness. Like he's hot or what? No. Oh, Strange, juvenile looking, weird body type, I mean. Oh, like little baby teeth.

27:40 Restrain him. Right. Weird glasses. You seen him, right? Yeah. He's a kind of frumpy and. Yeah, like, looks like, looks like a, guy that's got, like, a level 28 wizard and deep, right? I mean, even with a couple billion dollars, you think he could pull anything better than what you just described? Well, you know, in some cases, yeah, right.

27:59 But in some cases, perhaps, like, that's part of the. You never see him coming. You know, it's that thing, right. You know. But yeah, he everything is everything. Everything in Hollywood and in the big arena is all smoke and mirrors. It's all show. It's all it's all television. And, you know, there are rumors that it basically they came out in a meeting he had with an internal meeting just before this whole thing collapsed, where basically he admitted to buying a couple of other exchanges, liquidating those exchanges, pumping up FDX with them, and playing the shell game and totally the shell game, the Ponzi scheme, whatever you want to say, failed for him eventually.

28:44 I mean, it failed. He's still just short of a billionaire, though. Well, until they take it all the way. Yeah. So yeah, yeah. So they take it all away because it's fraud, right. But I'm saying, you know, it's still pretty good. You know he came out if he can find some way to keep it and he might I don't know.

29:05 But I doubt it. A lot of people are very angry. Supposedly there were a bunch of surrounding celebrities like Tom Brady and others who invested that way in this. So, you know, you capitalize some some greedy, you know, shyster capitalizes on the greed of other people looking to get rich overnight off of some concepts. And a lot of those people are already rich, so they throw a whole bunch of money at this, you know, clamoring to like, oh, you know, it's going to let me become I'm going to get it.

29:33 I'm going to get this back tenfold. And now I'm going to be able to buy that next, you know, whoever bigger thing, shiny object. I'm just glad Tom Brady's wife still has cash, but she's out there messing with those people, so who knows how long that's going to last. Yeah. Was it Tom Brady? Is he the one that was defrauding the welfare people?

29:51 Was I him I don't know it might have been he's a he said ex-patriots. Yeah. Well this season okay I see but I thought, I thought one of those like famous quarterback, you know, famous name celebrities or like be involved with some kind of welfare scheme. Now let's assign it to him. Sure. And know it's not like our podcast has enough reach to get a defamation suit,

30:15 Yeah. Well, why would you be Jeff? Jeff, how are we meeting anybody anyway? We're just talking about, like, what we heard in the new. Yeah. Oh, that's what we think we are going to attribute it to Tom Brady I mean I'll fake jacket. Yeah.

30:30 I mean I remember South Park did a hilarious thing about Tom Brady's poop for fecal transplant. Did they really, the fecal transplant stuff is crazy of, a friend of mine at work is, sister who lives in Germany. You know, universal health care. Like, needed it. Oh, yeah. Inevitably. Right. Inevitably, human beings are going to figure out that a huge part of the overall health is your gut, is your bacteria.

30:57 Flora. Yeah. All throughout your body. And so and that will be augmented in the future. I don't think we did this very hamfisted, fecal transplant, you know, and very invasive and that a lot of work, but, how was it a lot of work? Take shit put it in a blender and inject it with a turkey baster up someone else's ass. How is that a lot of work? it doesn't always work.

31:19 And sometimes, if you have to do it multiple times, there are multiple visits involved over a period of months. So I'm saying I don't think it's worked yet. I need another, I need another treatment. So that's what I'm saying. There's a lot of work. It's a protracted process. It's a protracted. Yeah. Like that. Well. That, that doesn't always result in success.

31:43 Well, she ended up getting a transplant from a 23 year old athlete. Yeah, right. Exactly. So I'm. It's work. Of course. Did you introduce, like, a really healthy flora from somebody who's very healthy? She looks 25 years younger. She's way more energetic. Grew a penis? Hey, man. One of the guys who used to be my boss, he, got a bone marrow transplant and he.

32:09 Oh, that's totally different thing that changed your DNA. That's what I was going to say. He, he, in essence, is, for all intents and purposes, a woman now. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Hey, man, if I got leukemia or something else and need that bone marrow transplant. Bring on. Bring on the breast. Hell, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll take the titties over death.

32:30 And you know, there's there's so many there's so many derivatives of this. Like what's possible in medical science. And what people don't understand is that in the, in the technological future, in the, in the more technologically advanced future, your, your complete identity is going to be editable from so many different levels, like more or less what's in your mind and what's what your body is composed of everywhere from its hormones to its actual rewriting DNA.

32:59 After you know, not just in the womb, in utero, like literally DNA revision throughout your life. To correct errors, to, ever play those BioShock games, the war games? BioShock? BioShock? No. I'm familiar with them, but I've never played the. But the future is going to be humanity is going to be this, you know, not a discrete thing anymore.

33:23 Well, it is exciting work to buy those kind of things, right? So humanity in the future is going to be this huge blurred line. Not that it isn't already, but in the future it's going to be like extended, blurred to the point where there will be no discrete way to define it. But there again, so this, this game and so what's where you could buy all of these things kind of explored the whole mental component of it.

33:50 And generally buying all these genetic modifications, buying all of these things, these powers, these augmentations, drove people nuts in the game. And I mean, like, I a good life, good plot. Yeah. Yeah, I like also, you know, inevitably the entire, species, the entire biological living biosphere of this world will be editable. Yeah. You know, and that sounds like just a simple statement, but think about the implications.

34:24 So I've said this before. I'll repeat, because definitely worth repeating is that the Earth itself is not just this planet, it's a planet. Plus the lifeforms that have that have lived on it. Well, yeah. So life will live that do live that will live. Yes. The lifeforms that have lived on this planet have transformed the planet many, many times over.

34:45 In our geological past, we've gone beyond terraforming it. We've turned it into a collective organism that would not have existed if we hadn't have existed. And then said organisms that live at any given time can augment the entire key of Earth the biosphere, the lithosphere, the atmosphere, right? The composition of the gases in the atmosphere, for example. Well, yeah, we've edited that heavily.

35:10 And so you have this transformation over the composition of Earth over iterations of various dominant lifeforms. Right. And so humans are just the latest craze and inevitably with humans that our technology we're going to synthesize a new world in the future. So you can imagine like in a completely we hope. Well what a I think a lot of animal species don't hope not.

35:36 Hope not. But right. You know and then like I said, what what how humans are even defined is going to be, a blurred line and going to be completely different in the future. So inevitably when we have the technology, which we already kind of do, but where have the technology to fully terraform the entire Earth and manage every single accident now?

35:57 Yeah, we just do it through scale. Yeah. Right now it's just like just just like the mollusks did during the post Cambrian period. Right. Like the Dover cliffs have all these. The white Dover cliffs are nothing but like calcium carbonate shells for millions of years, sediment, because there was this period of time where they were dominant because the, the of the environment.

36:21 All right. Missions. That's right. Shallow warm water. Right. For in a certain area over millions of years causing like a mile thick sedimentary layer of of of dead mollusk shells. Yeah. I mean crazy, right. You know, and so that's now a permanent, not permanent, but necessarily permanent. But that's a major geological feature. Now that's literally a mountain, right.

36:45 Made of dead animal carcasses. Yeah. You know, then you have the coal band around the entire earth and you have the oil reserves around the whole earth. All of these are come from dead or organic, from geological periods, the result of how the Earth had been changed by the denizens of that geological period. Right. So the sunlight coming into Earth being the primary source of energy?

37:07 There are there's geothermal thermal, but the primary energy source has been the sun for all these billions of years, right? Right. With life thriving under that life, living and dying instead of and then plant matter being largely, you know, all this creating sedimentary layers in the earth, reshaping the composition and the biology and chemistry of the Earth itself.

37:28 Right, right. Which then now our species emerges, and then we proceed to rapidly disrupt it on the, on a, rapidly on a geological scale, disrupt it. Right. But at the same time, we're just doing the same thing every other species have done, just in a shorter timescale. And so you take which has an outsized impact, and the systems that are in place are less able to adapt or assimilate.

37:51 Yes. But then we get to this point in our technological capabilities where it doesn't matter, we just transform it into what we want. Right? If we get there and I love it, I love us. We'll get there. But we're hamfisted morons. No we're not. We'll get there, we'll get there. We're we're, There are hints. There are hints.

38:08 This is morons. Yes, but there's also for every one of those, there's, you know, good half dozen geniuses out there, you know, back here. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so there's, there's there's enough. We still rely on our nature. We can still rely on our nature to, like, catch us. So, like, the human nature itself is the social safety net for humanity, right.

38:34 You see what I'm saying? But that doesn't mean that bad actors can't have a serious effect, especially associated with them, especially with the forced multiplication of technology. Right. They have. Yeah. I mean we've got certain things that are a canker upon our society that have arisen from technology, certain inequities like, the wealth gap, certain right problems like, social media addiction, certain problems like, you know, gaming addiction, stuff like that.

39:06 Yeah. So you have, occasionally a bad actor, you know, emerge. Like I said, a majority of the people are good, but occasionally you have a bad actor that comes up someone that's, you know, corrupt for some reason, you know, who knows bad genes, bad drugs, that environment, whatever leads a person to be a certain way or just the person who's chose to be bad could be right.

39:26 And, you know, with technology as a force multiplier can then do a lot of damage, which is one of the, one of the things we that's the cautionary tale of technology is like one bad actor could this you know, what I mean is like, you know, press the button or whatever, right, right. And, so technology's kind of created that avenue, unfortunately for a small number of bad actors to do a lot of harm.

39:49 Right. But at the same time, we can still society is still holding on with the prevailing goodness of human nature. That's what keeps the world going round, you know, like you drive down the street, people don't try to run you off the road, right. You know, you know, everywhere you walk, someone's not trying to mug you or hurt you.

40:06 Yeah. So, like, we rely every day on the good graces of society. We do. And we contribute to those good graces as well. Right. And so in a myriad of ways known and unknown, you know, I mean, even just a phrase or two now and then defending someone or whatever. There you go. And so across the world, the 8 billion people on the planet are being held together cohesively by the glue of human nature.

40:30 Right? A positive, the positive are positive human nature. And so the extension of that when you, blanket technology as a general thing over people, over time, you're going to have that nature multiplied through the force multiplication properties of technology. So with that being said, the future looks good. Problem would be is if we take technology and concentrate it in the hands of a few that are the bad people.

40:55 Well, the problem ultimately that would be that. That would be the fear. So there's a secondary fear for me that. Due to, you know, some of these capabilities being very nascent and new and also some of the modeling, some of the understanding that we're coming, coming to of how adversely affect the war affected the world, you know, the, the biosphere, every everything that we depend on.

41:27 That we aren't going to fix it fast enough. Yeah. There's, there's many people that that, that think mathematically it's impossible for us to engineer our way out of this problem of like climate change for example. Yeah. I mean that's one of the most largely looming problems we have. So interestingly, we engineer our way into the problem. We did, but by accident.

41:49 Okay, maybe maybe not, but most likely yes. So why doesn't it stand to reason that we can't engineer our way out of it? Yeah, well, the people that say we can't, it's because they say there's no money in it. Yeah. Which historically, when you look at there, either has to be money or a social, you know, a social driver that ties into money.

42:13 Well, as of right now, in American culture, it's money, right? Right. Well, I'm saying is there have been instances, massive undertakings that took the collective effort of a society, everything from the pyramids to going to space. So basically, you're saying leadership, leadership, broadcasting the correct vision, getting everyone jazzed up. Yeah. Socio economic thing. Yeah. Anything it's willing to apply are guys, somebody who's willing to apply the machinery of your, of the society you have sway over to within a single lane.

42:47 So a massive sway in culture through a series of leaders that have a strong cult of personality that can help people see the light and transform people's thinking about what we need to do each. I mean, that's the easiest thing. Combined with massive financial incentives to do the right thing. There we go. You know, so as it stands right now, if you look at the leadership in America particularly, right, we've talked about this a gazillion times, is that business and politics are one and the same.

43:17 And so everything is driven by money. Right. So therefore morning. So therefore since everything is driven by money, is that unless there's a financial incentive to fix climate, they ain't gonna ever. Who's jogging library and oh yeah. No. Here's the interesting look. And sell.

43:38 Right. So like, you know, words matter.

43:44 Okay. So, you know, post Aids, Freddie Mercury, Hitler. Is is is one thing, right? Interesting looking gentleman is another, I think post dates. Freddie Mercury, like the lovechild of Freddie Mercury and Hitler is definitely the way to go.

44:12 Right. I feel like he would have had to agree with our With Ernest Positively podcast, where we reveal the inner terrible human beings we are bit by bit, slowly unveiled. Yeah, yeah. We slowly unpack and unravel and unveil the terrible core, disgusting entities we truly are. The narratives that we carry with this day to day. The, terrible, horrible mental schism here.

44:40 We had we had a fecal transplant, a pure tar evil. From a demon like. No, like it literally was a demon. Yeah, it was a purified, distilled essence of a demon. You know, given via turkey baster enema. Really cool side effect. No, guys, I have a bar penis now.

45:04 They used a raven in this array of anime chicks, you know? You know. Sure. I saw those videos. All right. Weird as hell. I can't understand why people think anime is sexy. It does not appeal to me whatsoever. It. You know, like just the facsimile of some of some terrible facsimile is being harmed, you know? Well, yeah. Well, okay.

45:28 Hentai different level. I was talking about a big Google big blue denim chick that does magic. Okay, I really don't know a lot of the nuances here. Okay, Hentai is like the tentacle attack rape. Terrible. Okay, okay. That and then the, standard anime is like the big eyed big, yeah, the big eyed big kid. He.

45:51 Right. Gotcha, gotcha. With no nose. That's one thing that bothers them. Or little tiny, just little tiny triangle. Yeah, yeah, I can't stand that. And huge eyes that have that, like, spot in the eye that wiggles back and forth out of it. This little going in the eye. But yeah. So I can't stand anime in general. Generally hate the plots, generally hate the drawing style.

46:15 Gotcha. And I was doing I was kind of trying to bond with some kids and watch some of it. A couple of years ago, and, I kind of halfway fallen asleep. So her oldest. And you just keep seeing in the anime what you don't like in the anime, right? Right. And her mind is tuned in to that.

46:34 Her oldest, Julian, I guess, while I was sleeping, started to talk shit about me, was like, yeah, Shawn's probably going to like, jerk off later to this murder. Oh, God. And so I was awakened. Enough, I heard it. Oh, is that a thing to like people? It's actually obsessed. Oh, yeah. They're, like, totally into it. And there's,

46:53 So I kind of crack an eyeball. I was like. And I basically told him in a few short words, I think it's really fucking dumb, but you can go ahead and do it if you want. The genre, not the masturbation. Right? Yeah. Everybody likes self-pleasure. Yeah. I'm not saying that. Do they? I don't know, I don't know, I don't probably I'm not really sure.

47:17 Probably in the majority. Yeah. Here probably. But regardless I was like I pretty much told them yeah that's not going to be what I'm going to do that to. But yeah, I just don't get it, I really don't. It's like I would much rather look at. So I was going to, I don't know, cartoons. It just don't make sense to me as far as tying them in with sexuality.

47:45 Okay. So one thing about the cartoon is you can create the ultimate image. Like there's no blemishes. You can make sure you can, you can draw it can be drawn in any which I feel like that cartoon cool world, that movie was kind of that idea. I'm not familiar with it. Okay. It was something that Kim Basinger and, Brad Pitt starred in.

48:05 Okay. And ultimately the idea was Brad Pitt was a. Cartoonist who was in jail. Okay. And he was drawing over the years, you drawn all these different characters that built this world out, including Hollywood. Okay. Which was, girl. Okay. It's basically a drawing of Kim Basinger, I see. Nice. All right. And, you know, idealize, like you said, it's completely unblemished, you know, with a certain bent towards the blond with, Gina, I see, I see, well, and then, you know, kind of like, I guess, I guess you're still going for a certain type, and there's a general genre, right?

48:52 So that would equate to that facsimile would equate to some, you know, particular group of humans as well. Yeah. Like, you know, kind of by proxy. But kind of the idea I'm going with here is that like it's it's less of an exploitative, less victim driven thing because, you know, it's just a cartoon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the cartoon.

49:15 So he ended up in Cool World and he ended up getting seduced by his ideal woman to try to let them all out into the real world. Cool. I like the premise. Sounds like a Roger rabbit crossover, but darkly adult. Interesting. Okay, I think I can watch that. Sounds kind of interesting. It was kind of cool. Pretty cool concept.

49:37 So, just like the reverse matrix. Yeah. But so there is a certain degree I think of, like, you know, the whole idea of simulated violence in, in CGI, like, you know, game kind of world or cartoon driven world or even inevitably, you know, simulated violence was inevitably will probably take place against machines. So you can eventually we'll probably have like a, simulator that is augmented reality with real entities inside of it, like robots that are, dressed up as humans that you literally can, can annihilate.

50:14 Right. Okay. And so, going up from the put your picture on the punching bag to creating your ex avatar in a robot form. Yes. To kill. Yes. I don't think simulated violence is going away any time soon, so I can imagine hyper versions of that for sure. I've always maintained that wrestling is everything the male psyche craves.

50:38 It's simulated violence. You're talking about pro wrestling? The fake wrestling? Yeah, it's simulated violence. It's, drama and it's it's it's a mess. I gotcha. I love when these, like, classic wrestlers, you know, when they tell stories about how people are really getting beat up, like how it was so hard on their bodies. And I can see that.

51:02 I can see it being pretty rough on the body. It is. But don't for a second try to tell me that's just real. No, but it is. But they really are getting slammed. Yes. Yeah, they really are getting, you know, buffeted about and sometimes punched a kick. Yes. If a 400 pound man picks up a 350 pound man, flips him upside down and pile, drives him headfirst into the ground, that hurts.

51:23 He's dead. Yeah, in real life. Yeah. There we go. Like dead. You're right from one hit because, you know, his cervical vertebrae is probably going to be crushed. It's that and, you know, plus plus plus. Yeah. So his weight and the full weight of the other guy coming down on the skull. Right. And spine probably got multiple skull fractures.

51:44 Cervical vertebrae is crushed. It's all you know boom boom. Not to mention one full all out man punch in the face by a 400 pound guy. So no, no, if you're who you are, that's going to hurt a lot of it's going to cause damage, right? Yeah. So none of them would have teeth. Yeah, they'd all have cauliflower ears and multiple their noses.

52:07 Would all this look like. Like mincemeat? Wet Spaghetti. Yeah. And, yeah, etc., etc.. So we could go that way. Okay. So if the crap was even remotely real, right, these people would be within a short period of time, seriously disfigured, to say the least. Oh, it's so funny. There's a one time wrestler that played a lot of different characters.

52:32 One of them was cactus Jack. Yeah. Okay. Right. Mick Foley yeah. Okay. He, He's been very vocal about the impact that, Elon Musk's Twitter is having on society. Really? Yeah. He's not a strange person to be a spokesperson for such a thing. And he he's been he's been very coherent and cogent in his arguments.

53:00 Wow. And, he left Twitter recently because of it. Wow. Yeah. So it turns out the guy not only was this, like, physical maniac, he's like to some extent a brainiac, too, you know? I mean, I love it, I respect it, I love it, that's what that's what probably every, you know, pseudo celebrity or pseudo celebrity needs is like a genius sidekick that's there behind the scenes all the time.

53:29 Well, All right, I love that idea. What do you call it? A sign of God. We watch it. The Marcus Aurelius that used to have a person who would follow them, and they would just whisper things in their ear to keep them humble like you are. But a man, I love it. Yeah, everyone needs said person.

53:48 I mean, hopefully I becomes that for all of us someday. And like a true friend who's there for you all the time. This morning I was went off on a tear because I woke up at like 2:00 in the morning and read for like three hours. Really? What'd you read? Well, something that could dovetail into something you're saying, there is.

54:07 Okay, so I answered one of my questions I posed on podcast, the other that, I said, how do you take a text and imbue it with meaning so I can process it and understand it. Right. And one of the ways to do that. So I'm working my way through a paper that was written in 2017 by Google.

54:29 Google researchers called All You Need is attention. And it is about giving using these things called transformers to give AI attention and focus and context. Exactly. Just like the human being focus defines reality. And it. Well, it's it's like a little bit of memory where they can remember the word or what it means. And then that memory percentages versus this.

54:59 Right, right. And so then they understand the full object, say the sentence or the paragraph. Right. By this changing definition of meaning I understand. So the, so the circular reference that we call language, what they do is they just keep going around that circular reference and then adding little tokens of meaning along the way until the whole thing builds up a prop until this like semantic tree makes total sense, makes total sense.

55:22 But that's probably what we do in our own brains, our brains finally do the same thing. Yeah, where we build like a tree of meaning with modifiers and shades of meaning. And for sure, I said that actually before, in the past I said that, to every word, to every person cannot be exact like has to be nuanced, somewhat different.

55:40 It is. And so that's the same thing with the computer. But it can do it. Like even with a much greater magnet. And it can do it to it can understand each version of nuance potentially. Yeah. It's it's it's actually remarkable that we can convey information with language. How subjective and multi meaning every word can be, even and even every word taking on its variance is highly subjective.

56:02 Subjective. Because what we have I shared pool of experience and meaning. Yes. Through one of those things is the cultural touchstone of a dictionary. Once those things came about, we we came up with a standard way to spell and a standard set of meanings. Semantics came into its own. Yeah, I mean, an eggplant emoji. I don't think anyone know thinks of that as an eggplant.

56:24 And I was reading the other day on, I think it was The Verge. They did. They were doing research. Hey, you know, 13 common emojis. What do you three different generations think they mean? Of course, wildly different, of course. So, you know, I could see someone like texting their wife or girlfriend, whatever. The eggplant, followed by a little wedge of cheese.

56:46 Right. And one wife, one person comes home, the eggplant parmesan, the other one comes home to a slap in the face and says, did you give me. You gave me chlamydia, you son of a bitch. I was going to say, I was thinking when you said a slap in the face, I was given a slap to the face.

57:01 I could use the eggplant emoji. Ooh.

57:06 Or, you know, you can take that so many different ways. Like, perhaps the gentleman wants to role play something really cheesy. No, no, no, not right. Right. Who knows. There's cheese, something cheesy and my penis. So so like so like learning the combination of emojis is a form of speech as well, right? Yeah. That, you know, there's certain combinations of emojis.

57:26 You just know. Right. We should talk about emojis. You know, maybe we should, but, you know, perhaps tomorrow I'll actually tell the full story that I was telling the other day. Oh, yeah. It was a continuation of that. How do I what am I do is like for one podcast is just tell you the whole story, okay.

57:40 Get your get. That's what I thought we were going to possibly do. Get your feedback along the way. Okay. Right. Questions and anecdotal additions of information. So I guess the follow on to I want to hold on, I want to okay, okay. I think I got another follow. One thing I want to talk about is, I guess a personal I, like you had said, and some inroads into it this company had made, called ma'am and Vannevar Bush is memex memory, portmanteau for memory expander.

58:11 These are the kind of things I was putting together this morning. Anyway, we'll talk about that sometime. I love it, yeah, that's a good topic.