0:00 This is like that and it's like the spot. I mean, it's not the only thing. The only reason you come here is by crack now. Yeah. We could discuss this really bizarre strobe blinking streetlight down there, which is freaking me out when I was coming in. Oh, that's a secret light. Yeah. Yeah, that's it's a, you know, there's this, like, section on a what's it called?

0:23 Oh, I like Graham Parkway. No, no. But it's like the all flashing sequence like that. No shit. Dude. It's, like, literally makes me drive through open. So weird because it's like, you don't think you don't see it very often. That frequency blinking that fast? Yeah. Wrap it. Oh, Billy Graham Park is like 20 of them to do that all at the same time.

0:45 It's trippy. You got you go down there as an atheist and by the time you're on the other side of I believe I believe in God. Well what is it. You know you guys just made me think of something. All right. Every road that I know of this named after a preacher, is in the ghetto. Billy Graham Parkway, every Martin Luther King Boulevard, Avenue, whatever the fuck is in the ghetto.

1:05 That's a known fact. But. But I'm saying so is Billy Graham Parkway. And how, you know, it's like any, any. I'm sure anything named after a preacher is obviously in the gallery. They've they've relegated it. I don't know if things happen. I like to think to build your bill. Joel Osteen is in a nice section of town. Maybe the gay and $30 billion church, right?

1:28 Joel Osteen Avenue is the gay side of town in like San Francisco or something.

1:34 So good hand job. There you go. Yeah. Yates. So, see, you probably have seen at this point like this. George Carlin skit where he's talking about he was visible man up in the sky. Oh, but talking about the ultimate bullshit. You're right. That's like religion is actually convinced people. There's an invisible man, and you watch everything he does, and he always needs money.

1:57 He absolutely has to have your money. I ain't doing so I, I mean, I just think that that's hilarious. But at the same time, how insightful. Be true. Right? Like, yes, there's people that are telling other people, there's this invisible man, and this is what this invisible man does. And they have private jets, right? I mean, oh, dollar case and, you know.

2:19 Yeah, the got the prosperity doctor. Yeah, yeah. That's hilarious. Like, they throw the money, you pay into the blessing. Is there sloppy. Yeah. And and and I saw, like, this one clip someone sent me a long time ago was I couldn't stop laughing. It was so funny. Is they literally the church? People, like the heads of the church, took the money and threw it down on the floor and were running through it and rolling in it like, that sounds like people were coming up and adding.

2:47 He was like, yeah, sounds like religious making it right. And like the whole dollars, like right hand man. You can find clips of him talking about how God wants him to have money, how God wants him to have a private jet.

3:03 And then I've also heard the explanation with the private jet, you can go and reach more people faster. So like you just spread the word if they're using that. Okay, so this is what I've done with my logo. So I don't know if you should see my logo. My logo is like a middle finger with bird feet. And I'll just show you.

3:19 So basically like egret bird but like a middle finger. Okay. And it's more egrets. And so my theory is going to piss off a lot of people when I say people are gonna be like, why do you have that little bit of fence? I'm like, well, I prayed about it. God said, if people have problem with it, tell the fuck off.

3:35 You know, that's it. That's I think, I mean, how are they going to tell me? God? God didn't say that though, dude. Exactly. They got spirit to you. I think that's a great new approach for most things in 2020. I prayed about it and God made me. Yeah, this is what it should be. Yep, yep. How can you possibly dispute I was I was scared of the universe.

3:53 I was staring at the flame of my, of my partner's cracked stem and saw the face of God. I'm like, how long? It is exceptional. Yeah.

4:07 That is exceptional. That the logo could run down the side of the of each piece. Like how, you know, people put their little, like, cloth labels on yours could be half the you could be like the whole tablecloth, you know, Jesus, I want to do everything. And,

4:28 I left this like, thanks for nothing. That fucker had to be buying some crack. We haven't seen his ass yet. I know, it's like he talk shit and then goes by crack. You know, it'll be walking awkwardly and like, you know, you know, yelling at the air. I mean, how bad you got to take a year to get crack?

4:43 No shit. There's some, you know. So you guys want to walk or you. Terrifying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So, and we're going to do that thing. We're like, we're in the streets as I walk with this car company. Be like, what the fuck? So, Yeah, we're stopping traffic that we're that important. We're, like, making him feel awkward, at least.

5:06 Right. So there's this, like, come. It kind of came to my senses recently, right? That, like, I think Sean and I have hinted at this, talking about this, but there's a thing like where if you take all the data that, you know, the government has their, their fingers on all the access, the government has all the data the government has access to.

5:29 Think about it. Right? Yeah. Like all the shit from Google and Microsoft and you know, they have the way to link it all up. And, you know, that's what Snowden told us, right? What Snowden was talking about Prism and all these operations, you know, like Operation Unicorn uniform. Yeah, you name it, just insert insert bizarre program name here.

5:48 You know, the government has it, right? And, you know, prism, I think was one of them, you know, or, you know, I remember prism as being one of them when it came out was, yes, they were right and and like, nah, blah blah, blah, blah. And the government doing all this stuff and having these massive data warehouses where they're taking people's information and where was supposedly the program installed at ISPs to monitor email and traffic.

6:15 Yeah. So that and all the public IP cams around the whole, you know, this is another topic. Two oh, it's a garbage truck, but or some kind of car. So we attract looks. Yeah. We walk, they fill up. It's like 9:00 at night. But yeah, it's trash truck. Yeah. Crack truck. Oh. That's it. It's the crack truck. It's like the main supplier.

6:41 Polio chicken. Right. So. But anyway, so, you know, you take all the data that the government has access to on, on the, on the population. Okay. Then you combine that with like publicly available IP cams and plus all the ones that are installed by public infrastructure up, up on the polls and whatnot. Right. All right, all right. Assuming we got back doors and coordination and monitoring, that ties them all together.

7:05 Well, that's part of these programs as it is tying stuff together. So anyway, you know, you know, some of the advances in biometrics and and identifying, you know, who's who by their biometrics, by camera, you know, by image, you know, yada yada. Anyway, what I'm getting at is like, there's there's sufficient data where I could write the fucking program that, you know, starts to tell you who's doing what.

7:31 Yeah. So you end up with what was that show with,

7:36 Person of interest? Yeah. So what I'm saying is that within a few weeks, I could write software if I had access to that data, that gives a pretty damn good score on who's doing what. Yeah. You know, it doesn't take much. You have persons, you know, text. You can tell through the context of textual, you know, now what overlay art is.

7:57 Make a creating meaning out of the mountains of data, creating meaningful correlations, creating linking these things together in actionable sort of way. That's going to be difficult. Well, you know, I've done work in that area. So I have experience with that. And and it wasn't that hard. It was what I'm saying is, in fact, the training data set, you know, learns pretty damn quick.

8:18 What what's what. Okay. And, you know, think about that. Identifying every drug dealer, every illegal immigrant, every insider trader, every, film selling or. Yeah, right. Every illegal gun sale, you name it can be kind of put together really quickly if you wanted to. So simple, I guess. I feel like we can't, I don't know. Do you think so?

8:48 What are you saying? So. So that there's a dark conclusion that I have here and that the corruption is the system. Because otherwise the system would have taken down the corruption? Yeah, it's if the system was designed for anti-corruption, it would have been taken down a long time ago. Well, I mean, yeah, but the system also might depend on the corruption, almost a symbiosis.

9:10 So what I'm saying there might not be the corruption that may feast up, feast upon it. It may use it to hide things. It may, you know. Yeah, sure. So, like, you know, you see, everybody would like 3:00 in the morning lined up at cookout, right? Like, should I buy cookout at 3:00 in the morning? And there's, like, a line out the ass for people getting shakes and burgers and fries at, you know, drunken high or bowls or whatever else, or just wanting a cookout milkshake.

9:39 Yeah. Because that's that's a normal daily work flow at three in the morning. Right. For it depends on if you're a Walmart employee. Get done. Yeah. There you go. See you solved it. Yeah. Because because of course I haven't been in that line and looked at the people. So I don't know the kind of I don't know what I'm talking about.

10:02 Right. So no, but what I'm trying to say is we've all been there and we all aren't necessarily, you know, that. Agents of corruption, I mean, I, I been there because I was getting off at Walmart at 4 a.m.. Yeah. And I was and I was there legit at 3 a.m. getting cheese bites for Sue, but. Yeah, right.

10:21 You're pregnant wife or whatever. Because of course. Yeah. Because we were up doing something legit like. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they don't have a double drive through and one line is going fast to the other, and I was able to see the eyes of the people of the various cars and get a pretty good idea on the of people that were there.

10:38 I'm with you probably. Liz. What what are we going to say? Probably 60% of them were drunk high or both. Yes. Yeah, I like it. At three in the morning. I probably say it, you know, or something. It's probably from 11:00 on at calling pieces by 7%. Right, right right right, right. So, you know, again, you can't just say anyone that's in that I drive through at 3 a.m. is is one of these people.

11:06 But it's another data point, right? Yeah. And then where somebody goes what kind of text message they're saying who they're text messaging, what they're saying in those text messages. Right. So you correlate locations, you correlate crime, unequal biometrics. Yeah. So the whole point everyone's data just to get a few bad apples. I mean, a lot of people just know foreign peoples.

11:30 Never. What I'm saying is that it's not really doing much. What I'm saying is if the system really did care about it, like, like finding and getting rid of, you know, certain types of people, not like getting rid of kill, but like incarcerate and rehabilitate or whatever. Right, right. Then it could, but it doesn't. And there's a reason it doesn't.

11:51 The same reason it doesn't like actually help make sick people. Well, right. It's because there's like a lot of resources that can be extracted from these shadow things, right? Either whether they be above border or not, it doesn't matter. You can still extract a lot of resources out of somebody when they're desperate, like when they're, you know, a user or is there a etc., etc. I wonder, okay, so with with a sick person, I can see, you know, hey, we have the Sackler family who profited directly from the opioid epidemic.

12:25 It's rare that we get to see who profits directly from these things. Yeah, but we've seen medically we've seen a few instances where doctors, you know, the Sackler family specifically, lots of things profit from this system. Yeah, because they were doing legalized drug dealing and they had to keep books. Right. Right. And so but the the illegal drug dealing, it's one of those things we'll just never know.

12:50 Well, I was saying you can know if you really want to. You can know like the the data is there like, come on. If people score drugs by a text message and then they score drugs by, like this guy walking through the neighborhood, we, you know, we were drop offs, right? Right. Coach thing. Yeah. You can put these things together.

13:08 You should be like, yep, I'm a culture. I'm like, work my crap. You can put these things together just with like just with common sense and like a little bit of street smarts. If you had access to the to the information you can put together. Now imagine when you have really powerful AI tools, putting the information together can can peg everybody.

13:25 Yeah. Like in no time. Yeah. And I mean, all right, I really just wonder if there's a unified data stream or if there's, you know, if there's a correlation and causation engine, the government has it does crank on all of it effectively. Or if it's just kind of like he's on many fifteens like you have in most companies that see pieces and parts of the data.

13:47 Okay Disney just location services on on all the phones. Give me just that and I'll give you incredible information about people. True. Because you have where they are when they're there. And then you can take up. Yeah I guess they would call it os ent right up source intelligence. You can take source intelligence and say, hey, you know, they're here.

14:10 Here's con data for that area. Here's what happened around that time. Yep. And so you start that's just one layer. And then you start layering in right. Other data sources one after the next. The next thing you know, you have a really clear picture on struck like a heat map or something, you know? Yeah, dude, a heat map would be awesome.

14:30 And then you can even make the heat map one of the layers be that person's potential level of criminality, right? So you know, and map it to the area that they visit. And, you know, all these things. There's overlay because it's just reality. You know, it's like the environment that we're in. And so what I'm getting at is that since it's so obvious, like it's so it's so known how that this can be done at this point with people that are, you know, in the know that are that are in these kind of software and systems and.

15:04 Right, this kind of code and whatnot. Right. It's so well known that it becomes clear and obvious that it's them intentionally not being done. See what I'm saying? Yeah. So, so so it's like, if you see someone robbing a house and you're a cop, you see someone robbing a house, and you just don't want to deal with it, right?

15:28 You say, okay, they're robbing the fucking house, I don't care. Right. Yeah. I don't want to deal with it. And also, I don't even want to put it in my report. I don't even want to bother. Yeah, I don't even want to deal with it. And then when the homeowners come back and realize I've been robbed, right, they're going to call, I'm going to pretend to like dust for prints.

15:45 And even though I don't care and they're their homeowners or renters going to pay for it, life goes on. It's just some shit, who cares, blah blah, right? In fact, I'll do my best not even to put it in the statistics. So then it looks like the area that I'm working in is is is less crime right. Doing better than it actually, yeah.

16:06 We're already I mean okay so laziness I mean that's that's one factor that affects data quality. Yeah. But laziness and attitude. You know, I mean, all the human factors affect the quality of the data we're going to get. Yeah. And so how many houses do you rob until you get caught? Robin. House. Well, it cleans on the Erie Robin.

16:31 And your guess how how how many, how many, customers can you get if you're selling something illegal until you get caught on average, like, you know, each new person, it's. Yeah, probably quite a few. And it all comes down to how much you know, somebody like, you know, or etc., right? And hell, all these little layers of legitimacy you can add to what you're doing.

16:55 You know, we as sales go, you have plenty of avenues for legitimacy. But if you start kind of serving the general population and selling to anyone that wants, you're going to get nabbed pretty quick, probably because so that person is going to either squawk or be a cop themselves. Yeah. So it's like, you know, there's there's just so far that you can go until, you know, and come in that in that domain.

17:20 That really is if you're climbing your way up from the bottom. Now, if you're at the top already and you developed connections and layers of legitimacy and ways to obfuscate, things didn't can operate a lot longer. All the people we've talked about. Yeah.

17:41 This is a test to see if the evening hours are better for overall than twilight hours or super morning hours.

17:54 It's easier in a way. You know, we've heard across one really loud Trump instead of whoa!

18:06 Go this way. So, my my my theory here is this unfortunate conclusion that the corruption is the system to, to a very large extent. And this is brought on by, you know, a whole bunch of cultural epithets like, you know, like taking all of these different things that are vital to the health of all of people and privatizing them as well.

18:29 And that's the thing, I think not necessarily so much the phrase the corruption is the system, but the ones at the top that are running that are are like the Sacklers were caught for their corruption, but they molded and used the system because they were within it. Yes. And so that's right. They created and shaped it as they used it.

18:54 So the pharmaceutical industries mandate, right. Pharmaceutical companies mandate is to provide drugs to people that will help them get well, help them live well and be well. Yeah. Let's see me. Hey, you know, that's the that's the overall like charter or what I want to call it like this supposed why that exists. Right. People are sick. They need medicines to get well.

19:20 That's what this is supposed to be about. And so what this group of people mentioning them, I, I'm not familiar with the name. What's the family? Sackler family, the Sackler family. They has found a way because our government serves mostly as a kleptocracy, OxyContin and a few other drugs. You know, they really were heavily involved. Really? Yes.

19:43 Yeah. So they they were involved in the distribution and of rewarding doctors for said distribution. Yeah. So they basically, I would say that would be corrupting what the pharmaceutical studios are supposed to be. Would they directly get fined? It was going to be over a billion and they put it down to maybe a several million. Yeah. So, so corruption being defined as like anything that, that, that, that is outside of what something is supposed to be for like, so the drugs are supposed to give somebody pain relief while they're recovering from something, right?

20:19 Not have them be a junkie. Right. And so with the aggressive tactics, like you said, sales to sales and marketing tax is pushing it, you know, rewarding doctors, all these little plays to sell. You know, not really. At the end of the day, caring about the overall public health. They just care about the profits. Of course here we have the profits over people like you again.

20:39 Right, right. And so that being a form of corruption, they were corrupted by the greed, like, you know, hey, profits over people's a perennial theme. I mean, that's the reason we ended up with Union, because it's like, hey, we can make people work, you know, 17 hour days that we can make seven year olds work. Hey, you know, well, the union, I think, was supposed to stand as the people over the profits.

21:02 Well, that's what I'm saying. That's why we ended up with unions. Because of the idea of we can make people do all these things. That was a rebellion to try to fix it. And that's why we had the. And that's why we have OSHA. Right? Yeah. And some of the, some of the labor yields got so powerful, they became corruptive forces as well.

21:19 Right, right. But the the overall underlying underpinning, you know, mechanic that produces corruption within these systems is the profit over people. So see what I mean? And that's what I'm saying, this perennial theme, it's, it's something that happens again and again. It's whenever there arises an opportunity to put profits first, it's going to happen. And so when you privatize food delivery, when you privatize health care delivery, when you privatize policing, when you privatize incarceration and you privatize health care, right?

21:53 You then are injecting that corruptive element of the profit over people model. See what I'm saying? Inevitably, it's an enduring force that's always there. But then, you know, if we shift to the other, the pendulum swings to the other end and we have a, you know, hey, government owns a, you know, internet, like, like, yeah, like, bt like, sure.

22:18 British Telecom, a government, a government owns a, you know, essential services, essential services, like much of China. You know, sometimes it it can work, but, you have to watch it just as carefully, if not more for opportunities for corruption. Fair enough. So what I'm kind of getting at here is that, like, for the, the for profit model, with the, with the built in competition and efficiencies has has some definitely good elements and it's done a lot of good things and a lot of different industries.

22:51 Right. But when it comes to like essential health and health and wellness services, utilities that everybody needs and relies on to live well. Right. Maybe that should be outside of the profit over people model, right? Yeah. I mean I'm all for that. So let's feel like a hybrid system, one where you have, you know, people controlled, controlled for the people by the people socialize infrastructure.

23:21 That's a baseline. And there's a lot of countries that have that, right. I mean, like in Scandinavian countries, they even offer basically centralized heating. Oh, because like you kind of have to have it. They they got to the point where there yeah, you do have to have it. And they got because of someone freezing to death, they import trash.

23:40 Yeah. They burn it. Yeah. They, they've done a lot of things right. And what I'm just saying is that the overall model of like, everything privatized everybody. Everything for profit is not the right answer. Right. Because it has so many cracks, you know, and you know, there's it's there are a lot of countries that have done a lot of elements of this well, and we do well to follow those models and their implementation because they managed to avoid a lot of the pitfalls that we're talking about.

24:11 Yep. And so, like kind of like the fall of your guys favorite guy, muskrat. We won't get your muskrat. I would like I would love the opportunity to do that. Man to death. It's possible. Thanks, guys. Thanks. Wait.

24:28 Karen. What space. Karen. Space. Karen. He's totally space. Karen. Right? That's fine. Space. Karen. He's such a whiny little motherfucker. What's the guy? What's the male version over there? Oh, like if Karen. What is it, Jad or something, I don't know. Oh, well, jab kind of carries similar connotations. Right. So such a Chad is it Kevin or shame?

24:49 I know that came from, like the channel four election. Yeah. Or like Giga Chad is like the new. Yeah. I've heard the kids say Dick and Chad. I'm just not sure the connotations of carries. So Giga Chad is like this, like, ridiculously overexpressed male characteristic character. All right. So like, not only has a squared off chin but like massively squared off jaw.

25:11 You know, it's like not only he's just not cheese mode to the max. Yeah. Not only his muscle bound is incredibly muscle bound, you know. All right. You know, dripping with machismo. Yeah. All the lady, like, 100%. He opens his eyes and every lady within his gaze is pregnant. Yeah. There you go. Family Guy did the funniest thing there.

25:33 All the at a basket NBA game. And the ball went out of bounds. And one of the players, fell in the laps of the whole family. Like the player like fell into the audience and so fell on the whole family. The whole family was there watching the game, and he gets up and he goes, oh, sorry about that, y'all.

25:49 And and Megan blows her pregnant.

25:57 You said pretty good.

26:01 Damn. So anyway, like like him right? Yeah. So kick a Chad.

26:09 So on the elongated muskrat kind of situation with the Twitter debacle and now Tesla stock prices plummeting. Whatever. He's lost to London. $20 billion. The most anyone's ever lost. That's all. The most anyone's ever lost. Sure. That's all. Are we still got wars? Don't really matter. Yeah. It's like, yeah, you know, thing. Yeah. Just dusted off their shoulders off.

26:35 Come on, come back out. I understand that 75% of the countries don't even have that kind of GDP, right? Yeah, yeah. You lost like, small countries in Africa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he probably lost more than the entire GDP of Africa's, you know, the whole entire continent, right? That's crazy. I mean, I don't know if we could look that up, but.

26:59 Yeah. So I mean, it's technically he's still the richest. Yeah. Oh no, he, he, he did get second place here for a while. I don't know if he's back up or not. Okay. He got second place to somebody.

27:13 So. So of course the play on all this right is the the actual whole Twitter deal was just a play to get conservatives interested in buying Teslas. That's what they say. That's what they say. You know what I thought? You know what I say. Nah, he ain't that someone. That's exactly come on me to be that smart. Just people around me to be that smart.

27:34 You could make it. Look, he's fired his his marketing and PR team. He's fired. You know, the most of the moderation team at Twitter. I mean, he clearly fires anyone who might, but he probably got a team that's around here, like. Yeah, like entourage, but pretty smart people. Yeah, but I hope, like, I could, I could find a creative way to kind of justify any decision that anyone makes and said, oh yeah, they did that intentional.

27:59 Like, did I could take a mistake that anybody makes pretty much pretty much any mistake and say, oh, they person did that on purpose because it and the dude has such a massive like fan base, right? Yeah. Someone out there is going to invent some kind of genius thing that he's playing four dimensional. Yes. You it's Bernard on our are not lives in Paris.

28:25 It's always the richest man. Yeah okay.

28:31 All right, all right. So. So Musk is no longer one, is that. What are you telling me? Okay. It's his main. His net worth is $164 billion. Okay. He, his main source of money is his Christian Dior stake. Oh, wow. 97% ownership. Wow. Okay, so he's Mr. Christian, is your. Yeah. The old Dior, dear. My bad, my bad.

29:03 My French is a little rusty, you know? I mean, Sam, you're busting out some really great French. Oh, yeah. I forgot what it was. It was a it's bad French reads like.

29:16 Yeah, this dog hates bad French. Okay. Yeah. And, I can't tell them. And so it was a it was you. Why are you hassling me, sir? Are you hustling or are you hustling me? That's it. Are you hustling me in French? I love that idea of, like, reading from a translation guide and try to pronounce something and say something totally dirty and ridiculous to somebody, and like, you know, you're trying to just ask, like, you know, where.

29:43 Where can I buy pomegranates in the market, right? Yeah. And you know, saying, you know, you idiot saying, blow me where the Pampers is. Yeah. Or. Yeah. Or something. Something. He went there. He see you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Just something. Right? You know, I told you up saying something grotesque and horrible to some lady with her husband saying he has a really dark career.

30:08 It is super dark, and I'm not happy about it.

30:13 So there's a dark meme circulating amongst us in China right now. According to this one video I saw in line where it's, it's got the it's it's it's, called human mind, like MINE. And the idea is that, a lot of people in that country feel as if everything about their life is just their humanity is being treated as a mind resource.

30:45 Okay. So everything from, like, they're being educated just so that they can produce and what they're producing is for someone else's benefit. Not so. Ultimately, this collective realization that their society is on extractive model to use you to earn it more, which, I mean, it's kind of unveiled by the whole thing that we track GDP, you know. Yeah.

31:08 Right. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, the United States has has gotten over this hump like one long time ago. Right? It's like so in the United States, we've convinced the majority of people that are just a little bit above the poverty line that they're middle class. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So we've convinced them that they're in this they're in this like very cool.

31:32 So I like that. I like that one. I hadn't seen how well, you know, hundreds of millions of American workers have been convinced that they're in the middle of the income earning. Right. And they feel great because they're not holding a cardboard sign at an intersection, right, right, to look down upon those people. Yeah, but isn't that great?

31:55 Yeah, but they don't realize that they have one foot in the in the grave of poverty. And the other one, I had a banana peel. I mean, you know, and it's it's there's been articles lately that say things along those lines of, hey, due to inflation and do the precarious nature of most people who are in the middle class making six figures.

32:14 A lot of them are now living paycheck to paycheck, right? Even up to the 300,000 a year line. Right. And so like collectively, all human minds as well, it just feels a lot better. Instead of calling yourself a human mind, you call yourself a middle class member and you get you get more autonomy. Your chains are a little less heavy, and they're a little longer and they're little more masks, you know?

32:37 Yeah, they're little more like abstracted. Yeah. And so I was looking at the kind of world from this position of, hey, how much, how efficiently are human beings now taking resources from the earth and converting them to products? Right. How how efficient have we become in the last 200 years, let's say, at doing that, I guess starting from like a benchmark of what happened in Rhodesia, in Africa.

33:05 Yeah. What we're doing now, where we moved up the chain. Right. Reminding people's knowledge and, productivity efforts instead of actually extracting things from the land. Sure. Well, you know, we include that, but you start off with, like, okay, in 1900, how hard was it to get a barrel of oil barrel being like 55 gallons of refined, you know, petroleum product?

33:30 What was the effort to do that comparatively to the effort today? Right. How much how hard was it to get a, a ton of coal in 1900 compared to 2023? Also looking to reach into the resources to extract that boom. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And and how hard was it to generate a bushel of corn? Yeah, right.

33:52 In 1900 compared to whereas now now you need to titanium steel drill bits, you know. Yeah. And you've got a robot and you've got a, a field that is automated for the most part where you had field hands covering the place. Now you have two machines that you bought from John Deere that you can't actually retire yourself. Right.

34:18 Yeah. Because a proprietary software running it. Automated. Yeah. Yeah. And so, which we're just going to bring us to another funny point, but, the, the, the that's a really good example of how sanely different productivity is today versus it was, let's say, 100 years ago. Right. And so of all this technology and automation and sophisticated tools, you know, and so forth that increase that that have created this boon in productivity, the majority of the surplus of the wealth from that has gone.

34:50 Where where's it gone? Well, we know the answer to that. It's it's gone to a very small percentage of people not been spread about globalization and productivity promises did not result in all boats rising. This one as it should have. Exactly. And so brings me back to the idea that the basic needs of the people, like, for example, universal health care here in America, not being present is an absolute despicable thing.

35:21 Like it? It's an immoral right on its face, just knowing the productivity difference. And instead of providing that, we're caught in an endless loop of argument and bullshit of, well, socialism is bad. Here's the stupid reason I came up with, you know, maybe blanket socialism is bad, but maybe some social programs are not. So programs that not that give an opportunity.

35:50 Programs that give a chance for people to not only preserve and increase their dignity, but increase their personal and societal work. I like it. So here, here's an interesting hybrid idea. Why don't we make a meritocracy, unlock certain social privileges at certain times. But we're talking about game of Shit. Basically. You you guys compete for these achievements.

36:19 Yeah. So maybe maybe the, you know, the top 10% of every high school class in the country, the top 10%, like, score, you know, high scores on tests that can prove their aptitude, get free college. Well, sure. That's great. And you must do free fucking college. Well, what I'm saying is to is to get into it is to.

36:44 Yeah. Well okay. Prince to way to move in that direction. France free school. Yeah. Other countries free school. Right, right, right. I mean, why don't we just do that? Yeah, why don't we? Yeah, but because the resources are there is the point. Yeah. Right. Because they're really good at making missiles, I think is the answer to that. Right.

37:03 And I mean, okay, I get your 10% being the stepping stone, but I feel like Roosevelt's New Deal was a stepping stone. And if anything, the position he created has been just eroded. It had to be increased. Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. So, yeah. And you know, this kind of, entrepreneurial dream spirit that's been shoved down our imaginations, right?

37:29 The myth of the lone adventure is, yeah, I think definitely a big deterrent stopping that from happening. Right. It pulls yourself up by your bootstraps. You you are the architect of your own destiny. You all have the same opportunity. There you go. I mean, Sam, we could definitely say that's not true. Yeah. So, you know, you have this idea of maybe, let's say someone gets in a car accident, it's not their fault, and they get a little bump on the head, right?

37:59 And, they're not as capable as they were a week earlier. Yeah, yeah. Like, all of a sudden they're they're kind of a I don't want to say charity case, but they're, they're have converted to someone that's not going to produce anymore. They're going to just kind of need to consume and be taken care of for the most part.

38:16 Right? Yeah. Well, why doesn't that person deserve just by, by the fact that they're living human being, but, you know, hurt you of being upon the earth deserve to be taken care of? Yeah, yeah I agree. And then when you start taking this an interesting twist on that, you start comparing every humans capabilities compared to what we're starting to see now in AI.

38:39 Right. And yes, that was done I was done. Yeah. We'll we'll head we'll head towards those I'll see you guys in a minute. I want to scout it out. Both of my cars okay. Yeah. That was the primary target. That wasn't that guy. That guy that we saw in the neighborhood was just looking for your car. I don't think it the right way.

38:59 I did very well. Yeah, we never know. So, like, came from, like, why, sir Joe? So, Sam, consider this little wrinkle in the debate, right. Like, there it looks like in a not too distant future, human beings are going to fall way short compared to AI in terms of like capabilities, intelligence. So we have to hopefully rely on the benevolence of the God you create to, you know, us.

39:28 Yeah. And so what I'm saying is that maybe we should start getting right now what it looks like to take care of everybody properly, right? I mean, let's let's institute universal basic income, let's institute, you know, free education. Let's let you in. Beings used to the idea of if if we what people experiment, if we let people explore what they do with their day.

39:52 And, you know, I want to say I feel like we'd be that much richer culturally and probably technologically, eventually. Give it a generation. Yeah. I think the pavilion idea right now is that people would just lament the play game. They play the games all day and do drugs. Right? Yeah. On the train track. Yeah. Yeah. I can't even imagine hanging from that and doing that.

40:17 How the hell else do they do it? No no, no. Yeah. Rigging up some kind of. But I'm still saying they got a rope. They're still hanging from that bitch. Right. Well, little niche man.

40:34 So, so the the, interesting thing that I've, I've noticed lately is that, you know, we go into a new year and here we go with the same old stuff. This just continues to repeat. There's still the people on the street corner holding the cardboard sign, right. There's still the you know, there's just no it seems like you're like you're saying, Sean, like gridlock of, you know, bickering and, you know, never actually progressing, never moving things forward.

41:01 Yeah. Well, it gets to a certain amount of point where you just kind of have to assume that that is the design, right? Is that it's that's the architecture of it, that is the structure. Because if it weren't, then you'd see progressive change. Oh, there's so many things that can white light best intentions. I mean, on an individual level, we just look at what keeps the individual from doing the things that would improve.

41:24 Then. Then you just multiply it, right? Yeah, I think that I think the largest kind of like emotional sentiment against the universal basic income thing and, you know, trying to let people do what they want their lives and have taught me of that is that there's this negativity towards humanity. Negative assumption. If that means everyone's gonna yeah, there's gonna be playing Xbox all day getting stone and they might and they and you know, I've talked about that time I was listening to NPR and they were talking about this universal basic income program in Africa, and they mentioned, hey, there was one guy who had chronic seizures who, hey, you didn't have a job.

42:07 All he was doing was he bought himself a house in a couch. He was happy about it. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I mean, you're so fucking happy. He's like, I have a couch now. It's cool. And this other guy was like, hey, I own a bar. Let me start up this other business where I, farm trees and then turn them into charcoal, you know?

42:27 And he was he was becoming a serial entrepreneur. You're going to have things all along the spectrum because people are all along the spectrum, right? Yeah. What you said so many times, it's a bell curve. Right. So in the bell curve, what's the average in this paradigm is that most people do something productive, right. Yeah. Which would, which would which would track to what we know about people in general.

42:48 Yeah. So that's what we have to be happy with is that overall, the average will be productive. Overall, the people will be doing something that's additive. Yeah. And so I'm 49 and I'll be 50 in August. Right. So in my lifetime what kind of party we have. Yeah. Right. Cool. Yeah.

43:14 We'll start planning it now. It's only eight months old. Oh, are you playing it now? Yeah. It's begun. All right. Sounds great. The cogwheel is all returning. Okay. Are you afraid of midgets? I know it's supposed.

43:29 Yeah. Great.

43:35 I mean, this is all depend on how they're dressed or not and what they're doing. Maybe just paste these. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So pasty clad minutes. Very close to you. Not very sexy. Your personal space. How do you feel about strippers? Oh, I love this. Well, what are they wearing, Sam? What are they? So I'm thinking, well, the strippers.

43:59 So it depends. On what? How far? Along with dwarven refugee wearing strictly mithril stripper stripper thongs and no short socks. Yes. Nice. With the big bushy beard. Now see you through me. Up, through me. Up. Yeah, I was into it. Then I was thinking, well, if the big beardless. If the big bushy beard detaches, then maybe it's okay.

44:25 Okay, okay. All right.

44:28 So if you like, pull on it. It's a Santa style beard just around the ears, right? Yeah. Like you. And you know it when you first see it. That. That's what it is too. It's not. It's not like it doesn't fool you. It's not like a multi-layered trick where. Okay, you got through the first hurdle. Now when she takes up a mithril thong, she's got a wheelie.

44:46 Well, I was thinking half male shippers for the women there, too. Okay, okay, so we can't relate. He's occupied in some really dirty shit. Quite right. Okay, we're gonna do it.

45:01 Okay? Why not? You only turn 51, so.

45:08 I like it. I like that attitude, Chris. Great. I end up, I end up, like, with the beard on. But at the end of the night with herpes. Great. That's it. Great. Wow. Great. Yeah. That's an oral or downstairs. That's like both, of course. No. Okay, fine. All right. Like, I got to go get the full. The full complement.

45:26 Right. Herpes in my arm pits. Jesus. How did my eyelids get herpes? You can get it in your eyes. I understood it was in my face while I was having to rise. Yeah. So cats have also gotten. I had a friend who had a cat with puppies inside. Right? Yeah. Alrighty then. On purpose.

45:48 Wallace, would I herpes. Well, those things are not nice. I know there was suffering with chlamydia pretty seriously. I mean, they still do. Yeah, that's that's I think the maybe that's it. That's the big one with koalas. Maybe that's it. Yeah, I know that's up with iron sex with me. Something I beat committee on there. From what I understand the eucalyptus is like poisonous.

46:14 And they sit there and munch on it and they get poisons. Yeah. So the point where they have to pass out and so they pass out, that's why they're like lethargic so so much. All right. And then their body recovers from it and they come back to kind of normal. And then they eat again and repeat the cycle.

46:29 And then the drug of choice is their favorite food. Yep. And when they're and when they're not doing that they're slow humping getting comedy. Oh that's good. It's like you take away, you close this as they turn like NE grizzly bears or like, go tiny. Okay. Mean humping grizzly bears. Then take over the earth. Yeah. There you go.

46:48 You take away the user, replace it with something else. Like something that's got caffeine in or whatever. Yeah, they start eating cocoa plants or something, and next thing you know, they're raping kangaroos. Yeah, but if you could have Cocoa Poko leaves and the wild leaves go out and get a job that I love, because if you write down that straight and narrow right down the middle, it got the middle lane.

47:07 No, you know, you hit the bumpers all the rage. I wanna the job. And then you've got new, productive citizens in Australia. Yeah. From what I understand, there's a large cadre of stoner koalas that are lobbying the parliament quite heavily these days. Troy, make this a reality. Good, good. Well, at least Sam hit upon this, you know, vein of progressive stoner koalas.

47:36 And maybe we can start contributing. I think if Trump can raise money, we can raise money for that. I think he's far off by doing, like, a wallet. A lot of stone koala cards, you know, so stare at and if that's what I'm talking about. So board a board, apes. Fuck that we're doing. I mean, this, like, just to me, just brings back all these themes of the Grateful Dead and fish, right?

48:03 Like, I just see this in my, you know, dancing colas and all these rainbow secondary patterns and tie dye and yeah, I can see it, but in form I like it. And it has a man. So it's just like a hippie. Nothing new kids, but acid.

48:23 That's good, you know. Okay, we're right in that when we get home, we are. Give a mouse the cookie. Be damn. Give a koala acid.

48:32 Koala bears are the conduit to unlock the future of all, you know, intelligent life on the planet. That's it, that's it. We give koala bears and dolphins acid and watch what happens. Oh, wow. Find a derivative of drugs that give wild creatures. And that's the key to unlocking humanity.

48:51 You had this theory. If you give dogs opposable thumbs on their paws like greedy Paul, they'll take over the world. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I can see that. I can see that. Another thing we're gonna raise money for. Yep. I mean, they already have people picking up their seed. Yeah, exactly. Letting them free load. So why not?

49:11 They. They live rent free. They sleep all day. Maybe a post little something. So alarm to use chess to figure out how to rule out a psychology. You learn how to fight. You know, like the done it would be done. They've already climbed to the upper echelons of our society. Whoa. A dog texted me like a bank account.

49:32 Oh, okay. My dog said he's actually a Nigerian prince. This cat, GPT, is competing with Wolf GPT for the the the throne of AI. Them. Damn. I like it. Sorry about that. I know it's it takes the call. It just didn't show my ringer off like I normally do. Slipping. It's okay.

50:04 Oh, so what you're saying is that we all have our ringtones on right now. I'm just the only one popular enough to get a phone call. Yeah, well, my balls on silent.

50:14 That's funny. I like the idea of of of cat GPT competing was some kind of. What's the Latin name for cat, a domesticated cat? I don't know, she's just something familiar. Isn't Canis and she Linus or whatever? I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, but, you know, the idea is the idea of animals using AI to to to overtake us is hilarious.

50:40 Oh, thinking of using AI for playing a dam. And I came across that the majority of what is going to be used for. Right. Can't go for it. It you you're better than oh, we're going to use ChatGPT as a DM because it's somebody did it. Yeah. And it won't do it directly. But if you ask it story development questions and to generate characters and all this stuff, it'll do it.

51:07 Awesome. And then when it rules my character can I like, you know, give it a little cheat bump. It's like it's some good dice. Hell, I always I always make my saving throws. I mean, if you can explain chat that you've got, you know, a trick or what it does. Yeah. Nice. Look, it I like it. So it's interesting too, is that the all eyes are trained on training data.

51:33 Right. So the majority of the information that's about to enter the world, if it hasn't already, is the production of AI. So we have coming in the future for sure, is that actual feedback loop of training data from AI by AI God. So when all the AI starts training on the training data that's mostly composed of AI generated content, what happens?

52:01 Versus the trolls, right? Right. So so so the the do these AI like start trolling each other or do they just start trolling us for fun? Well they'd have Annelise amount of trolling that they can do. Like so showing the people would become too easy and too boring, right? So it'd be more entertaining and more of a challenge to troll other AI.

52:21 So are you saying they might try to intentionally corrupt training data sets? Yes. That they feed to other AI to be superior. Isn't that what happens right now? Most people. Oh, God. Okay, okay. All right. The only example that comes to mind is Kung Pao. Enter the fist. Really trained wimp flow incorrectly so that I'll give you a concrete.

52:44 How about my fist? Your face? Stop. Yeah. That's a that's probably a useful style. Yeah, but here you go about, training data sets or your fist in my face and go to go to public high school for two years and then go to private high school for two years and see if there's not a different training data set.

53:02 Oh, no shit that people are being exposed to. And if you're selecting if you want your child to have the superior training set, where are you going to send them? Private schools. Private school. Well, don't you think the AI could control each other the same way? Of course you do that to us to do right? I definitely think they're going to start doing it to us.

53:24 Help. But they're already doing it to us through the generation of misinformation delivered through social media. Well, but the thing direction person still, that's just shitty algorithms. Or do you think it's malicious? I, I think it's shitty algorithms at this point.

53:44 That's that's like saying, well, it's almost like case by case basis. So with a person. Okay. So like let's say a person has some shitty training data and they believe all kinds of nonsense. Shit. Yeah, right. Right. And they, they, they like things they need to overthrow the government. Right? Right. You end up going into the capital. Are there any in Brazil or the US?

54:07 Pick your country or something? AR yeah, yeah. Thinking that you're going to rescue children trapped in the basement. So think about that. And it has no basement. That is just a person. That is just a person that's a or biological computer, right? That's been exposed to a bad training data. Yeah. And then that's the result. Right. Well, like okay, I was talking to a guy at work today.

54:31 One example out of many, but he gave me he tried to convince me the word government. It's meant. Mind control meant it's just a suffix that you can use to make an adjective into a noun, like amazement or government. Okay. And, you know, it's like bewilderment. Yeah. Bewilderment. You know. So except yeah, keep going. Right. But and governance is just the very practice of doing, you know, the, the practice of governing.

55:13 Yeah. All the trappings of the state, all the, all the management thereof. I mean, it seems appropriate. Yeah, that government would be. But he tried to convince me that in essence, meant what he was saying in his limited understanding of words. I guess saying meant and mental are similar. So mind and then governance wants to control. So mind control.

55:40 So it's like, you know, it's there's, you know, it's kind of like if you I do this all the time, I have this like really you guys know me enough by now to know I'm a little bit abstract. Am I thinking right. So what I when I meet somebody new, it usually doesn't take me too long to discover what their body of misinformation is like.

56:02 So, you know, be talking to someone in five, ten minutes in the conversation. They want to talk to you about the Lord Jesus Christ, right? So, okay, there's their training data they've been exposed to. Count me out. Right? Right. Or then you have the some, you know, another kind of idea. Oh, I'm selling Amway, multi-level marketing and other cult of the world.

56:26 So now there's the training data set that they've been exposed to and bought into. Right. And then I have this other one. The the newest one right now is like, you know, Bill gates made the vaccine to everybody, you know, made the Covid vaccine. Everybody. Okay? Okay. I saw that on the internet, too. Right. Yeah. Or the the fact that, what were they saying was being spread by 5G cell towers, the virus itself?

56:54 Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the cell towers are, you know, brought with the nanobots from the from the from Fauci like that. You got, you know. Holy shit. Right. Algae in your arm creating an army of nanobots with your under their control. Right. And so then you have like the everyday running of the mill, it's been more normalized, which is like, you know, what's just spend money and consume as a lifestyle.

57:20 Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, so that that's the typical one that most people, the training that most people, Americans have been trained on, that's the one that lets them easily be managed. And it makes them easy. So, so, so the kind of true measure of liberty being being free and having some liberty right is to see through it and consciously choose your training data set.

57:44 Yeah, that's how you succeed. You pick the training data set that's actually to your mind is serves your interest. But you must constantly be reevaluating this. You must constantly be looking at things. You kind of have to keep your fingers on the pulse of, yeah, maybe have a friend in society. Maybe you have a friend that knows you well and can help you stay true to form.

58:04 Yeah, right. Well, I k man go a little off the track there or have an AI tool help you stay true to. I mean, I'm all about. And I keep saying I'm going to talk about this, the personal AI. I've been doing some research along those lines, and, there's an app these guys are creating that wants to fill that gap.

58:25 Gotcha. We were talking about it. Yeah, that's a point. We're close to being back, so we got to save that, right? Well, yeah, I'll talk about it at some point. But that's usually whenever I decided that I want to talk about it. We're supposed to be back to. Yeah. Well I still like maybe in for for season two now of a podcast which would be 2023.

58:46 Maybe we need to start chopping our podcast up into more discreet pieces. There we go. Or say fuck, what works still works. I don't know, I mean, I never know. I wish we hear how much people typically listen to, like if they listen to 20 minutes or if they listen to five minutes, or if they fell asleep 2.5 minutes in, I was pretty much, he's on the walking work.

59:09 I'll put you on and listen to you all for like five, ten minutes. Come back five, ten minutes. Yeah. They're the only other idea I have of people who listen to it. I've gotten feedback from this guy, Jeff, who got fired from my job, unfortunately. Good guy, because he's listening to our podcast. He was listening to our podcast and he was like, the things you guys talk about?

59:30 And he's like, hey, you know, I usually turn it on. Yeah. He's like, I usually turn it on and listen to it when I'm going to sleep, because I'll be honest, I don't get very far in. Yeah. Oh, God. We put me little sleep. Wonderful. And I've tried listening to several episodes, and I'll also be honest, I've fallen asleep to the sweet, dulcet tones of my own voice.

59:52 Many days fall asleep, though. Yeah, sure. That's something I want to do in 2023 is work on my voice. Because, you know, when I go back and listen to the podcast for editing purposes and for, you know, get it ready for the, for the for for publishing and all that, Chris wants a radio man voice. I just want not the one I have here.

1:00:10 Also, like Mr. Mumbles is there. I sound like I just don't even make sense. I don't I don't even understand how my voice sounds like it does. I feel like I just sound like I. I sound like a butthead went to college and you sound like how I think you sound on podcast. Then I'm like, the way my voice sounds on the podcast.

1:00:37 Like it's fucking terrible. Okay, I said the same way about my voice. I feel like I said, I felt sound like it, but head went to college. I'm like, oh yeah, real fucking cool. Maybe. Maybe we're all just being too harsh on ourselves. Maybe it's like common thing, right? Yeah. Maybe so. Because. Because to be honest with you, when I hear y'all's voices, I think they're fine.

1:00:56 I like your voices. So, you know. Well, then. Yeah, we probably don't need to change anything. Maybe if I didn't know myself, I might think my voice was okay. But knowing myself, I'm like, oh, my God, I maybe should take that money. Would you spin off voice coaches just give you something fun? Yeah, like Mrs. Strippers and mythical thongs.

1:01:11 Yeah, I, I be honest, I just kind of fascinated what a mythical song was going to look like, but. Yeah, well, I haven't had a pair of Muslim songs, but there's a male version. Oh, you see those show socks you feel like learn how to win, to turn things off and not be outside. Because maybe if there's a middle earth stripper with a song, maybe I shouldn't be paying attention to the vine, right?

1:01:37 Like so. Right. Well, I'll learn. I'll get better. Just be like, why person was really a stripper? Because that refugee. Oh, Jesus. By up all wrong by the fall. Oh, my God, that is so crazy. They've gone through a lot. They have. And you know, because of that, they're late. And daddy issues bubbled to the forefront of their mind.

1:01:57 And there is no they're upset the females are up or the males are upset because they're their wife has a bigger fears done. You know, this is so so so the next like penciled in topic is going to be, these new wrinkles I've come into recently and my thoughts on veganism. Yeah. Oh nice. Anyway thank you gentlemen.

1:02:18 That's it.