Politics, Dog Bites & Human Corpses
In this episode of Positively Pedestrian, we get into some discussion on politics which quickly devolves back into a discussion about hypocrisy and the rule of the all-mighty dollar. Next, we talk about pets and the bizarre and seldomly talked about side of pet ownership. Then we get into what could be and should be done with people's bodies when they die and fantasize about what we would want to be done with our corpses. We finish up with the absurdity of producing mountains of garbage and the technology divide across generations.
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Fashion just doesn't seem like right. Oh, yeah. There's there's killing. Once again, I love the fact you can come out. I know he could come, but. At the snarling aspect to you, it's so funny, like the barks. And I don't know if he's got a snarl and he's the tiniest little dog. It's not even directly making eye contact.
Did you notice? Yeah, yeah. He's like looking in our general direction. The eye contact would be too dangerous. Yeah, right. Because you wouldn't want to look a potential predator in the eye. But you do want to scare him off. Yeah. It's like if you're a human being and you're yelling at somebody, like, using the biggest man voice you have, but you're not really looking at them, it doesn't really add up.
Yeah, I guess it depends on what they're doing. If they're not really looking at you, it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. If you're, like, using your face booming man voice possible. Right? Yep. And you're not looking at that person at the same time. You're either really fucking scary or you're just. You're barks not. You have no bite to that bark.
Yep, yep. It's one of the two. And more than likely, it's the latter rather than the former. Yeah, you might just be that that really off psycho, right? You could cause like by not looking at the person you're. You're like, your mind is visualizing what horrible thing you're about to do. The right. Yeah. You're using your faculties for something else.
Like like your brain is recounting the last murder that you performed. How exactly am I to rip this person's arms off and beat them with it? Yeah. What creative way am I going to? It has to be unique each time. Yeah. That's my that's my M.O., right? Yeah. Could my M.O. is I gotta you know, do something bizarre.
Mine is, Generally, I like to use my environment. Yeah. Find something in the environment. In eighth grade, for example. Well, have I noticed there's this kid Andy, who'd been picking on me? Yeah. And his, his class. Mrs. Warren's class after lunch would always go to the bathroom. So me and a few friends waited in the bathroom until pretty much just.
He was in there. They kept him in there while I talk. Sufficient shit. Got my. Got myself wrapped up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I proceeded to do things like throw him into the stall, throw it, hit his head on the toilet. You know, you know, reality or in your mind. No. In reality. Nice. Okay. And, you know, I'm screaming and yelling all kinds of obscenities, and it's like I'm Ralphie from Christmas Story.
I'm threatening to kill his ass. What are your thoughts on his face? Yeah, but it was, you know, he was this fat kid, and I was this tiny little kid. It was farcical looking. And, well, he ends up after a few minutes of that, I stop messing around, and, friends let him out of the bathroom, and, he goes to the guidance counselor, tells her that I threatened to kill him and that he's afraid for his life.
Wow. He's full of shit. He wasn't scared me at all. You know, after I beat the crap or urinal cakes, he's for shit. Or, you know, kicks and, Yeah. I mean, we didn't use his mouth. We didn't even go to the urinal. It was just the stall and the toilet. Gotcha, gotcha. But, Yeah. So he's just taking it as a way to get back at me and, ends up getting me suspended for, like, two weeks.
Wow. Well done. Good play, sir. Good play. Well, on his part. Yeah. Really well on his part. I kind of fucked up. Yeah. You could have played the same sympathy card. I was scared for my life. That's why I was so aggressive, right? I mean, he attacked me. He should have smelled that turd. Oh, yeah. That's assault by any account.
Generally, that eighth grade was a really bad year for me for in-school suspension and out-of-school suspension. But generally, man, the principal got along really well. He was like, look, there's nothing I can do for you here. I was like, I see what you're saying. All right, I'll just take it. I would use in-school suspension as a means to improve my grades.
Oh, yeah, because I would just sit there. There's nothing else to do besides work all day. Right? So I do all my schoolwork for, like, the whole week. Well, and like, all of my grades, as much as they would give me is what I would do an in-school suspension. And then I would flirt with the bad girls that were in there.
Yeah, like undiagnosed before ADHD was diagnosed and treated right. Like with meds. That was like, a kid's solution to the problem, right now. That did not. Yeah, not that I have ADHD, but but like, distraction was real for me. Oh, yeah. And I know it's to this day I enjoyed it. I thought it was great. It was like I get to get all my work done after I finished all the work that I could possibly do, they let me read.
So you got to hang out, read. We had this really, really hot resource, whatever they call them, resource officer. But we're not a badge police, but, like, counselor. Okay, I guess school counselor. Yeah, whatever. But, like, they had a different title. I forget what it was. Something, you know, work before work was the thing. Got it.
The title. Yeah. And she was always the one that would do the in-school suspension. I was usually in there with myself, but just me or one other kid. Okay. So it was like, rather pleasant. She smelled nice, and she would, like, always kind of lean over when she. Oh, sure, when she'd like. You have a question on some of your schoolwork?
Yeah. Oh, actually, whenever your schoolwork, they did not. Yeah. So I had a, like, a lot of attention and affection. Yeah. That's awesome. And, good spectacle. Yeah, absolutely. They changed it out with some dude, and then I was never nice anymore. Fuck that was huge. I have some dude that's not like cigarets and, coffee usually.
What a what a what a double whammy. Yeah, right. Cigarets and coffee. Yeah. I went from like, conjugal visit to, you know, solitary. Really, I don't basically. That's, It's so funny how one person can change the environment so much. Yeah. With us, it was usually this guy, our. It was our health teacher and a coach.
Mr. Leaf. Right. Okay. And, he didn't really like me that much, but he would leave me alone, so that was fine. He would do stupid shit, like, every now and then he'd get a hair up his ass. You'd be like, right? An usher. You about sports? 500 words, please. And so, you know, I'd do stuff like write about the history of basketball and James Naismith and peach baskets and shit, and then, like, try to zero in on a psychology.
Adults that care a lot about sports have a juvenile thread in their psychology. And you know, I've never really never really reached adulthood. That's your thesis. Like just just just to attack him. You know, that would be amazing. But I am a as an example. Mr.. Insert his name. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he never read any of them.
Okay. But as a quantified example. That's so hilarious. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Case study. Yeah. In point, Mr. Lee, since there's since this, like, juvenile, adolescent minded, you know, low emotional intelligence, human being, you know, decided to have me right on this topic rather than something academic that would actually advance myself as a human being, something that would edify me, something that would, you know, stretch my research skills.
Right, is strong evidence in the fact that, you know, that that that, in eighth grade year old me would have loved that as a prompt. I would have relished it. I would have jumped into it. Yeah. Because nobody likes, you know, no one likes essays more that are direct, personal, specific, personal attacks against them. That's that's that's the highest chance of getting a good mark.
And I bet I would have got away with it. It's like the opposite of bringing an apple. Yeah, it's like I brought 500 words of absolute ridicule to you today. Oh, and for our for our young listeners, I mean, the fruit. Yeah. Not the brain, not the almost $2 trillion capitalization company. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That that's we're talking to it's like bizarrely quiet for a Thursday, isn't it.
Yeah. What the hell? No, garbage trucks. Dump trucks. We are about to go to a busier street, but still one car on set up, two cars? Yeah, it's not nearly as busy as it normally is. It's kind of odd. Man, everybody wants to just take a day off. Thursday's the new hump day, apparently. Hell, yeah. I mean, I would personally rather have a day off in the middle of the week.
Is there something special happens? No, I don't think so. Oh, thanks. Now we're, like, punctuating our podcast with specific dates and tax. Now you all know it's a Thursday of some bygone time. Yeah, because. Because an untamed stamped podcast is just not not 2022. But, we should know the rule. So yeah, that's true. So I watch this Fox News debate between Lindsey Graham and Bernie Sanders.
Oh fuck. Oh my goodness. How was that? I'm still pretty shocked at how articulate Bernie Sanders is for his advanced age. Okay. I've never been shocked at how articulate he is, especially in comparison to the luminaries of the Republican world. Have luminaries. Big money. Yeah, yeah. But that's, you know, I don't know, man. He doesn't look like, you know, he's some kind of exercise buff or anything, but somehow he's like, his mind is really sharp.
Oh, yeah. Dude, for his age, I mean, you have to. You have to just tip your hat to that alone. Well, he's really sharp, and he, somehow has managed to go through the trials and for Bells of Life and still give a fuck about people. Yeah. You know, I think I could actually debate him, like, because he has so much he, he, he goes back to the same lines so much.
Right. Like you can almost predict how he's going to how he's going to answer your question. Yeah. How he's going to. Right, right, right. What his like angle, if you will, is going to be. Yeah I'm sure. And I mean, I'm sure he could easily be rooted or crushed. But I like his viewpoint personally. I don't know how you feel about that.
Yeah. No, I, I would tell him like, your rhetoric sounds great and it really gets down to the, to the, you know, to the, to the family level and speaks to a lot of people struggle. And so it resonates well and gets you votes. We haven't effected any real change in your entire career. What is the career politician that hasn't actually been able to really get anything done?
So he has gotten some things done in his home state, but they aren't sweeping in large. And you know, his his rhetoric the last few years has definitely been sweeping and large. And and I mean, you know, it does remain to be seen whether or not he would be able to work with people and get those things done.
And then you could just you can you can do the ad hominem attacks all day long. Right? You can say, you know, you talk all this jazz about climate change, but you took a flight down here, right? Instead of instead of advocating we do this via zoom, right. All right. And you know, etc., etc. so on and on.
You just keep going after the little nuances and he'll be like, yeah, yeah, you know, to win the when the debate with him. Sure. And then you go as far as you've just rolled over to whatever the Democratic Party has said, you know, you claim you go quasi in and out is this independent or Democrat, you run as a Democrat because you need the endorsement of the big party, knowing full well that the corporations are behind that big party, the Democratic Republican convention is 100% in the pocket of big business.
Right. You complain about. Yeah, 100%. And then he proceeded to complain about the Democratic National Convention. But then but then become part of it. So like it when leave in for and afterwards, which was funny. You know, it would not be hard to go in there armed with of 50 things like that. Sure. And just mop the floor with them.
But then but then you have to ask yourself, why would I do that? Right? That's what I'm trying to say. What would be the point other than just you could because, I mean, yeah, it would be very interesting to see what someone with his ideologies could do. Now, I don't think in this current political climate, they really have any, a lot of hope of having people to work with.
No, that's that's exactly saying. They're going to put Kamala Harris up. Oh, I guess we'll talk politics today. Yeah. They're they're going to put Kamala Harris up as the next anointed one. Yes. And that's what happened. You know, we saw how anointed ones worked really well. The exactly exactly exactly exactly. And the Republicans are going to do all their naysayer tricks that they've always done, like the Republicans gas prices.
Right? Like like Biden gas prices, they're the same. That's right. They they they'll create some really simplified linkage between the two. Just send seven oil companies a strongly worded letter about reducing, oil prices so that gas prices won't hurt consumers anyway. So the gas prices at the pump are less profit. Laden. Yeah. So that it more so more closely resembles the international price of a dollar a barrel.
Like how much, how many dollars a barrel is, you know, that translates more that that has strong correlation to the actual price at the pump rather than this big profit taking. Right. They're taking advantage of, you know, a bunch of situations, political situations. Yeah. I mean, you know, okay, okay, whatever price OPEC or whoever sets, it's like that's like the prime rate for a loan right.
Yeah. Right. Exactly. I mean, right. And so what we're talking about a for profit company profit taking and then having this like act, you know, acting out shock and dismay and alarm right over such a thing. So it's a, it's a thing like we joke about, you know, the the snake, convinces the person to, you know, bring it across the flooded river.
Right. And guarantees that the snake won't bite that person. And then halfway through, the snake bites the person and they both drown. Or. And the guy says at the very end, why did you bite me? And he goes, Because I'm a snake bitch. Or the alternative, which is similarly worse. All right. They don't bite you, but then they go on to kill for other people that day.
Yeah, yeah. Or they wait for you on the other, riverbank and bite you there. Right, right, right. But the the idea of the snake biting the person midway through the river, and then the person weakens and they both drown. Right. And the snake replies, you. I'm a snake, right? You know, it's a good metaphor for, like, profit taking in a for profit, right?
You knew that was a business, and now I'm a profit making entity by very definition, right. And so these manufactured crises, these one after another, are just ways that these businesses find ways to capitalize. I'll go figure that, that that that words in play. It's so apropos. Right. They capitalize on every possible situation they can to increase their profit.
And that the from the governing perspective, okay. You have something as of a tool. Now you can predict exactly what they're going to do. Right. And predictability and governance. Governance is an actual gift. Yeah. Right. So you have to you have to make laws consistent with the landscape that you know you're dealing with. Right. And you have to be agile enough and, to recognize that with a certain immediacy and effect, the laws, well, they still matter.
Right. So during Tarp, during the, you know, housing crisis, let's give these, you know, banks carte blanche, like just let's give them blank checks because what they will do is they'll write loans to small businesses all the way through. They will write, they will just go and buy stocks, or they just won't send people on executive junkets or they just won't, you know, so bonuses.
So then like at the end of the day, who's to blame? So like the woman that constantly goes for the bad boy that's a womanizer and they're heartbroken every time. Or the government, you know, I mean is it's it's it it's similar to that 1950s mindset of, well, he won't do it again. He said he will. Right. There you go.
There you go. Oh. Oh here we go. Another another terrorist. He's whacking the shit out of that elbow. Politics sucks. Let's talk about pets. Yeah. This pet is hugely happy. You see the ears all back and floppy, tail wagging. Very cool. Black dog. He's just like, man, I just love barking at people. And you heard us, but didn't know where it was coming from, so his bark was misdirected.
Yeah, that was funny to. Yeah. It's like that blind old dog that just feels like it should be barking at something. It feels a purpose. You can just tell it. Yeah. It felt the wind bristle through its fur. And so therefore, something to bargain. But, Hold on store. Yeah. And now it's bad ass again. Now that we're down here.
Right. It's like. Yeah, that's right. Don't fuck with me. Don't come over. So like, dog bites, right? It's a real issue in society. Like lots of people get bit by dogs. And the way a dog's teeth are you know specifically designed for hand. Think with the foil on the windows is to grow. No. Okay. Given the roof it's very energy inefficient.
So they're trying to do everything they can to save on that power bill. Good point. Like put an air conditioner in the window. Yeah. Yeah. So they can have one room. That's cool. All right, and save on the rest of the house. Yeah, that might have been thinking. Bumped the thermostat up and I didn't smell like hell.
It's such. It's a once like to be a 1935 to 42 house. It might not have aircon. Yeah, it didn't, it didn't. It was porous enough to where if there's all kinds of plants growing, I think I would have smelled something true. If. But yeah. So you know dog bites right. Like the way that the dog's anatomy of their teeth is designed.
Right. It's for it's for penetrating and tearing flesh, and pretty incapacitating its victim, you know, that kind of wound that it generates, right. And then, you know, weeping hole. Yeah. When it's eating, the flesh is designed to tear. Right? Rip it off. Yeah. So, you know, we they're domesticated, but, you know, there's millions and millions of these things around, right?
And with various degrees of psychological, you know, confinement and outside their natural environment, you can imagine, you know, a high incidence over time of dog bites just given the sheer proportional volume. Right? Combined, the statistical chance at any given dog will, let's say, be sick or be in distress or not have the right emotional or environmental conditions. Right?
Getting a little getting a little primal and lashing out. Right. And then let's not forget the puppy popularity of really aggressive breeds. Well breeds our dog breeds that were kind of domesticated for pit fighting and other, you know. Oh, okay. Pitbull. Right, right. So like, you know, dog bites are something that most people that think dog is, you know, fluffy, cute puppy.
Yeah. And that's it don't really take into consideration. I mean, even the little dog I have, if she put those jaws to it and, used all of that, pressure she's got, she could take a good chunk out of it. She could totally wreck my hand in a minute. Yeah, pretty much any dog degree could cause some damage, right?
Yeah. To flesh and, you know, and irreparable. I mean, really, and there's more cats, from what I understand in America than there are dogs. Okay, but I don't know, like, from a biomass perspective, because a lot of dogs are bigger. I don't know that stat, but I know there's, last I heard, there's more cats than there are.
Well, you just seem to be every freaking way. And they're pretty self-sufficient, so I think they're a lot easier to maintain than a dog. Yeah, as a pet. And they also tend to live easier as strays. I mean, they, they seen how a dog seem to have a hard time. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Because they have to resort to killing larger things too.
Yeah. True. Yeah. Whereas, cats can snipe birds and rats and make it, you know, make it feel nice and make it have little impact. Yeah. And oh, bird population, from what I understand, too, is dramatically like that is like, that is the number one feature of bird population decline is cats. Oh. So like the cat population that we keep as pets is killing all the birds?
Yeah, basically, like, you know, not not just calling the population, but, like, seriously curtailing. Oh, there's our sponsorships. Big. We have to write to them. This is the third time we've mentioned you your, exterior, coating, building products, you know, can you can you, it's like, ask your employees to listen to your bio. Yes.
Your your superior cladding, the cladding has. Okay. I love it. So, you know, then the the the iron, the irony and the, what do you want to call it? Hypocritical position of, like, vegans taking on carnivores as pets. Yeah. Yeah. Like trying to trying to. It's trying to feed them salad. Right. I know it's initiating them.
Yeah. Look, the cat needs some meat. I guess. Technology, technology? Yeah. Those, razor sharp. Watch it. Yawn. Right. And see how many pointy things are gleaming at you from across the room. It needs meat. It yawns, and you can, like, see into the window of hell. Yeah, it's gaping maw. Yeah, yeah, it's the very stuff of nightmares.
Yeah. It is like, literally designed as a fucking killing machine, you know? Yeah. You know, dangle the little string and watch its eyes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you see it dilate. You'll see its nature, right? Its prey drive is unnaturally high. Yeah, it wants to kill things. It's like, oh, I rub on your legs because I look you human murder, murder, murder, murder kill.
I mean, you die. Seriously. A cat will eat you. Start eating you within three days. Hahaha. I know it gives no damn it! It starts with your toast.
Nice. Yeah.
Damn. Like I can't even use my finger food junk instead of go tater tots or something. Yeah, they are little like meat, tater tots, morning like. Yeah, it's like there's no real good. There's no real good way to approach that. I don't think there's a lot of good jokes just readily available. Yeah, it's a it's a bit macabre, face down and,
Yeah. I mean, the only thing I can think of is, like, the classic go to, you know, pussies would be the death of me, but, I always said pussy would be the depth. Yeah, that's too that's too obvious. Yeah, but it's still classic. And I'm glad we said it. Yeah. So I have this, like, thing where, you know, a lot of people ask throughout your life, you know, if you died, you know, what would you want to be buried, cremated, you know, whatever.
I'd like a Viking funeral, Viking funeral pyre or this you narrow into it. Oh, yeah. On the on the lake. Oh, it must be out on the lake. I must have a sword. I must be cradling a sword that is taller than I am. Yes, that's to be like twilight or overcast. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right. Most somber of situations.
And then we have a party afterwards that, you know, is ridiculous.
And you want it to where? Like there's a, there's enough of a rudder on the thing to where it drifts you out and you're in your, laying backwards with your legs open in a kilt. And I just got my balls on display. Yeah. As I'm burning. Yeah. And the archer has to be so skilled that at 5500 yards, they can hit the sack with the flaming arrow with one shot?
Yes. Can you hit? Can you hit my tiny white man penis from 500 yards? It's like, dude, I can shoot an aspirin from 100. I think I got it. Dude, we have to, like, recruit way in advance, right? Yeah. Like we pay you to a monthly fucking fee to have this whole thing. This guy on retainer? Yeah. So it's like lock, you know?
So our families get, you know, like, maybe, you know, a few thousand dollars, in the insurance policy instead of, like, a million, but but then there's, like, whole people that set up the spectacle are all, like, become millionaires. That's hilarious. We pay 250, you know, 500 bucks a month into the program from now until, like, know, I think we should set up this program and pay yourself.
Administrator fee? Yeah, well, so there's this thing in, like, what is it in Nepal, right where they take you out and they put your body out, and the, the birds of prey, come down and, like, pick you clean, okay? Right. And just there's just so there's this boneyard, right? All right. And, that. I think that's fucking cool, man.
That is cool. Shit. Like, that's kind of cool. You go back into the ecosystem. Oh, yeah. Like on the side of this majestic, you know, mountain. Yeah, yeah. So you're on this mountain side with no one about sitting cross-legged and death and everything is slowly picking away at you over a month or two, right, right, right. And, you know, if you're going to get the time lapse, that'd be better.
Oh, dude, that would be the thing. Set up a couple of trail cams and time lapse. It time lapse. Put that in your family. Archive for all your future generations to see. Do you think any part of to start a family tradition? I think people would watch it. I would watch it if somebody in my family did that.
I just don't have any kind of special regard for a corpse. No, no, I'm perfectly okay if you bury me in the backyard in a cardboard box, I don't give a fuck. I use a mushroom suit thing like, oh, yeah, but the only thing I don't like about it is I have to pay for it. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, if there was, like, a DIY mushroom soup. Yeah. All right. But really, in altruism seriousness, I think, I used to as a kid, before I was 16, I wanted to donate my body to the meat body farm. Yeah. Okay, cool. And the reason I wanted to do that one. They pay you in advance. That makes sense to,
And they stop paying you. That's why I haven't actually signed up to do it. Because they pay in advance and use part of the money to get a really fucked up tattoo for the people doing the the, you know, we're going to be doing it right, cuz that would be so great. But yeah, I mean, they're studying just like you're talking about.
You go back into the just from whence you came. They would study decomposition with you. They would they would use you. And, you know, different forensic situations. You would help further potentially human knowledge and train people and dogs to hunt for bodies, cadaver dogs and such. Okay. Really cool. Right? So like put a purpose beyond organ donation to your to your body.
Yeah. You can clear out all the damn organs. Just take like, empty husk to the empty body farm. Okay. Nice. And there's just, like, secret cabal of cannibals. That is just like, masterminding. And that's perfectly fine. I don't care.
I mean, I the same as the, you know, the bird of prey eating my corpse. Yeah. You know, if humans were to die on me, that I would care the same, like. Yeah, yeah. And in some countries, that was the, it was supplemental protein for the women and children they would eat. From what I understand, there's some type of really bizarre diseases that.
Come on, if your account. Oh, yeah. Like, no prion based ones. Something, something like that happens to you. It's, there's one called kuru. Okay? And it is, it's similar to Mad Cow. Okay. We won't go into how you know all this. I, I don't need to know. Oh, I need to know. Basis anthropology. I, I think I taught about college classes.
Fair enough. And but it's kuru and, it's similar to Mad Cow. The whole idea is it's fragments of proteins that they're just enough that they can replicate in. And, in your brain, and they drive you insane. Oh, geez. So they're not alive. They're not a virus, but they have just enough machinery to them. They replicate, and they only come about by eating, the same brain that you have.
Okay. Sure. So cow eats its own brain. You mean it's its own brain? Creepy now. Yeah. So it's the brain tissue specifically? Okay. But you could eat. You could eat the person. Gotcha, gotcha. You eat the flesh, not the brains. Yeah. Do you remember where your kids that, like, really that taboo, video came out? Faces of Death.
Oh, yeah. That was. Oh, come on, don't tell me you don't remember the monkey spinning around one scene. I'm not sure if I do that. A bunch of people with mallets and there's, like, a macaque monkey, like, in a table with only its head sticking out. And it's like in the in the stockades now. And it's on those, like this turntable.
Yeah. It's almost like a lazy Susan sort of thing. And they're knocking it on the head until it dies and they're eating the brain. Yep. All righty then. Oh, hey, I mean, we were talking about animal and machine rights. Yeah, just I think that if there is some type of law to be made against that, like that should be done.
Yeah. And maybe even very appropriate. Yeah. I anybody let's generalize it. But let's also talk about a specific case to let's say if you decide to do this specific that here's your jail time. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah. No questions asked. Yeah. There's just certain things. Right. That would be, I don't know. They just stand out as just wrong.
You just know they're wrong. Yeah. It's like, really, really don't need any training. You don't need any. I don't know, it's hard to describe. It's like just your natural instinct and empathy tells you certain things are wrong. Yeah. Right. And and and you can say that that's the, you know, the compassion of the Holy Spirit within us all.
Your heart, your conscience. You can say whatever it is, but I think it's like mirror neurons and, you know, biological evolutionary theory that that shows certain emotions have a necessity in society. They do, you know, very close minded people say, why would compassion develop with evolution? But you're not you're losing the idea that it's not about individual survival so much as like about collective.
Yeah, right. And the collective is where the genes have the best. Strength. Right? Yeah. Absolutely. Like like your genome or my genome is unique. So. Yeah. At the same time, it's the collective health of the genome of the species that that's that, that are more, more likely to carry survivability. Oh, go ahead and say that again.
Since this thing other our second garbage truck of the day, the collective variety right in the genome is what secures the the species, not an individual expression. Right. We need we need variety. We need depth of the gene pool. And we need quality. And I remember when I read, like, the, Stephen Hawking's book about The Selfish Gene.
I remember reading that long time ago when it first came out. And really strong cases made for a certain degree of selfishness is important, right? But it seems like nature also has a degree of socialism built into it. Yeah. You know, the odds that you go to someone else's aid, and that's a natural component of who you are.
And the other person having that too increases your chances overall, yes, but to a certain degree. Right? Right. So there's like a certain sweet spot of compassion, right person. There's compassion and personal risk. Right. Because compassion is a driver. But the personal risk is the action. Yeah. So there's that whole thing like, you know, would you jump out in front of a train to push your child out of the way and you know, a majority of parents would say, absolutely yes.
You know, without even really thinking about it, but never really thinking about it. But at the same time, I think when you dive in front of the train, you're trying to do it in a way where you live too. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not you're not trying to kill yourself or you both. You're trying to come out where everybody lives.
Is your progeny like, for real? More important than you? I think from a genetics standpoint, yes. Yeah. From a societal and genetic standpoint, absolutely. Like, you know, my breeding years, I mean, I could probably still father a child, but it's for all intents and purposes, my breeding years are gone. Right, right, right. We're prime breeding, but my three children breeding years are ahead of them.
Yeah. And ideally so for the society, it's would be better if one had to go. It would be me. Right? Right. Ideally that in some societies prioritize that and say look we've got limited resources at an older age. You, you go off to die or you do die. Yeah, yeah. But, I think I mentioned Star Trek yesterday or when we last talked.
And there's another episode of that too, where they do that exact thing at a certain age. You go to your, and I forget what it's called, but it's like your ceremony. Yeah. Where you're basically it's evaporated, like, you know, you're, you're you're ended. Yeah. And it it's okay. Yeah. They use technology to go ahead and get it done.
Oh. Well, right. And there's this big, Yes. And then there's this big, ceremony around it where they celebrate your death and it's something that they look forward to throughout your life. That's like something that is like a glorious time. Yeah. Hell, yeah. And they take you out before you get decrepit and need all those medical resources.
Brain drain society. I'm just saying it might make sense. It makes sense. But, I'm not saying we should do it, but I can see a lot of potential benefits. Yeah, this could be, like a really big case against dam trucks. This could be a really big case against utilitarian ethics, though, because you can say, you know, in a utilitarian perspective, you can see how that something like that would be the ethical thing to do, right?
Yeah. But in a, in a highly technocratic, you know, society where technology is creating a larger and larger divide, so there's less skill transfer between the older generation and the young. Right? You can actually justify it even more so in that kind of setting. And, but then here's a, here's a counterpoint in that we have massive industries and resource allocation toward.
Creating longevity. Yeah. The question is is that a good thing? Yeah. But the the fact remains whether or not it's good doing it, they're trying to increase lifespan. We're trying to increase the lives. We're trying to fix ailments that come about purely from old age. Sure. If you if you look at death as a disease that everybody has.
Right. And aging is the largest contributing factor, right. If you take that position right, then I can see that making sense. If you take a different approach to it and you say that, regardless of the age, there's this down, there's this downward trend of intellectual capability, physical capability, utility and usefulness of the of the biological unit, right.
As time goes on, then there should be maybe a legitimate process for, you know, letting that fall off faster rather than later, you know, sooner rather than later. And maybe that takes the form of offering some sort of agency to the person. Yeah. And saying, you know what? You do have a safe way to offer yourself and a safe environment here's hell.
Yeah. And then you get into the whole argument of, okay, that sounds great. You go first. And but that's what I'm saying. Free agency there. They have the choice. We don't force them. But if somebody is 75 years old and say they decide, you know, their body has gone to hell, there's social networks out there. They have no support so that it's not they want to do this.
Yeah. We support. Yeah. I think once you hit a certain degree of dysfunction and disability and pain and suffering, AC, DC comes up again, right? But if the whole world's a tie in, one weird big commercial cesspool of, associated brain. Yeah. Activity through cesspool being the operative word. Cesspool. So I guess we really have to find a stable route, for our walks that don't include garbage trucks.
We we avoid it in the first half. Yeah, it looked legit what we were doing. And now we're getting, infiltrated. Well, I guess because we're heading to the depot right now, I guess. Yes. So we have to find a new route where the depot is in any where part of it. Yeah, yeah. Not to mention the smell.
Oh, it's heaven. I call you. And the thoughts that come with it. And the images like.
You know, it legitimately just seemed like that guy was revving his engine a little bit extra. Yeah, he's like those motherfuckers, even though it wasn't even part of it. Yeah, but. So when you when you see something like this armada of garbage trucks. Right. Going out into society. Yeah. And the enterprise, you know, the, the, all the elements built up around this thing.
Right? Yeah. You just have to sit back in awe at how ridiculous like the bowels of the absurd, like it is. Like you have to bend a knee to the absurdity of modern living. Like it's beyond absurd. Like, why are we generating so much fucking trash that we have to have this infrastructure? Yeah, sorry. I don't mean to finish your sentence, but I think that's what you know.
That's fine. Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to say. And finishing my sentence on. But you know, this, this, this infrastructure and this is true in so many different aspects of our lives and society. Like, you know, I took on Coca Cola all the time in Marlboro, right? Like they're so easy, so easy targets. Right. Coca Cola has no substitute value or any real any similar software.
And Coca-Cola is the most widely known. So it's easy to say Coca Cola, but you know, like the this the soft drink industry quote unquote, if you will, has no tangible benefit of any type, any kind, any kind in society whatsoever. True. Oh, I'm going to go ahead and say your stock tickers, Kayo, if you want to invest after our it.
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