0:00 Fashion just doesn't seem like more attractive. Oh, yeah. Once again, I love the fact you can come out of the fence. I know he could come up.

0:13 With the snarling aspect. Who is so funny? Oh, like the barks. Not enough is he got a snarl, and he's the tiniest little dog.

0:24 It's not even directly making eye contact. Did you notice? Yeah, yeah. He's like looking in our general direction. The eye contact would be too dangerous. Yeah, right. Because you wouldn't want to look a potential predator in the eye. But you do want to scare him off. Yeah. It's like if you're a human being and you're yelling at somebody, like, using the biggest man voice you have, but you're not really looking at them, it doesn't really add up.

0:48 Yeah, I guess it depends on what they're doing. If they're not really looking at you, it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. If you're, like, using your biggest booming man voice possible, right. Yep. And you're not looking at that person at the same time. You're either really fucking scary or you're just. You're bark not. You have no bites.

1:08 That bark. Yep, yep. It's one of the two. And more than likely it's the latter rather than the former.

1:17 Yeah. You might just be that that really off cycle, right. You could because like by not looking at the person you're, you're like, your mind is visualizing what horrible thing you're about to do though, right? Yeah. You're using your faculties for something else. Like, like your brain is recounting the last murder that you performed. How exactly I mean it.

1:39 Rip this person's arms up and beat them with it. Yeah. What creative way am I going to? It has to be unique each time. That's my. That's my M.O., right?

1:49 My M.O. is I gotta, you know, do something bizarre. Mine is. Generally, I like to use my environment, you know? Find something in the environment. In eighth grade, for example, with. I noticed there's this kid, Andy, who had been picking on me. Yeah. And his his class. Mrs. Horn's class after lunch would always go to the bathroom.

2:14 So me and a few friends waited in the bathroom until pretty much just. He was in there. They kept him in there while I talked. Sufficient shit. Got my got myself wrapped up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I proceeded to do things like throw him into the stall, throw it, hit his head on the toilet. You know, you know, reality or in your mind.

2:38 No. In reality. Nice. Okay. And, you know, I'm screaming and yelling all kinds of obscenities, and I'm from Christmas story. I'm threatening to kill his ass when he jumps on Scott Parks's face. Yeah, but it was, you know, he was this fat kid, and I was this tiny little kid. It was looking. And, well, he ends up after a few minutes of that, I stopped messing around, and my friends let him out of the bathroom, and he goes to the guidance counselor.

3:18 He tells her that I threatened to kill him and that he's afraid for his life. Wow. He's full of shit. He wasn't scared of me at all. Even after I beat the crap or urinal cakes. He's full of shit or cakes. Yeah. And, Yeah. I mean, we didn't. We didn't even go to the urinal. It was just the skeleton of the toilet.

3:42 Gotcha, gotcha. But, Yeah. So he's just taking it as a way to get back at me and ends up getting me suspended for, like, two weeks. Wow. Well done. Good place for a good part. Well, on his part. Yeah, really well on his part. I kind of fucked up.

4:04 You could have played the same sympathy card. I was scared for my life. That's why it was so aggressive, right? I mean, he attacked me. He should have smelled that turd.

4:14 That's assault by any account. Generally, that eighth grade was a really bad year for me for in school suspension and out of school suspension. But generally me and the principal got along really well. He was like, look, there's nothing I can do for you here. I was like, I see what you're saying. All right, I'll just take it.

4:33 I would use in school suspension as a means to improve my grades. Oh yeah, because I would just sit there. There's nothing else to do besides work all day. Right? So I'd do all my school work for, like, the whole week. Well, and like all of my grades, as much as they would give me, is what I would do in, in schools.

4:49 And then I would flirt with the bad girls that were in there. Yeah, like undiagnosed before ADHD was diagnosed and treated. Right. Like with meds. That was like a kid's solution to the problem right now. Yeah, not that I have ADHD, but but like, distraction was real for me. Oh, yeah. And I know this to this day I enjoyed es.

5:11 I thought it was great. It was like I get to get all my work done after I finished all the work that I could possibly do, they let me read. So just got to hang out and read. We had this really, really hot resource. Whatever they call him resource officer, but, like, not a badge police, but like counselor.

5:29 Okay. All right, I guess. School counselor. Yeah, whatever. But like that, a different title. I felt it was something, you know, woke before. Woke was a thing. Got it. Title? Yeah. And she was always the one that would do the in-school suspension. I was usually in there with myself, but just me or one other kid. Okay, so it was, like, rather pleasant.

5:49 She smelled nice and she would, like, always kind of lean over when she shit when she'd like. You have a question on some of your schoolwork? Yeah. Oh, actually, whenever your schoolwork. They did not. Yeah. So I had, like, a lot of attention and affection. Yeah. That's awesome. And, good spectacle. Yeah, absolutely. And they changed it out with some dude.

6:08 And then I was never nice us anymore. Fuck that. They changed out with some dude that smells like cigarettes and, coffee usually our. What? What a what a double whammy. Yeah. Cigarettes and coffee. Well, I went from, like, conjugal visit to, you know, solitary. Really? Basically. That's. It's so funny how one person can change the environment so much.

6:29 Yeah. With us, it was usually this guy, our. It was a health teacher and a coach, Mr. Lee. Nice. Okay. And, he didn't really like me that much, but he would leave me alone, so that was fine. He would do stupid shit, like, every now and then he'd get a hair up his ass, and he'd be, like, riding.

6:53 Essay about sports. 500 words. Oh, please. And so, you know, I'd do stuff like write about the history of basketball and James Naismith and peach baskets and shit. And then it was like, try to zero in on a psychology. Adults that care a lot about sports have a juvenile thread in their psychology. And you know, I have never really never really reached adulthood.

7:15 That's your thesis. Like, just just just to attack him. You know, that would be amazing. But I am a as an example. Mr.. Insert his name. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he never read any of them. Yeah. But as a quantified example. That's so hilarious. Yeah, exactly. A case study, yeah. In point, Mr. Lee. Since census, since this, like, juvenile and adolescent minded, you know, low emotional intelligence, human being, you know, decided to have me write on this topic rather than something academic that would actually advance myself as a human being, something that would edify me, something that would, you know, stretch my research skills.

7:55 Right. Is strong evidence in the fact that, you know, that that that.

8:01 Eighth grade year old man would have loved that as a prompt? I would have relished it. I would have jumped into it. Yeah. Because nobody likes, you know, no one likes essays more that are direct, personal, specific, personal attacks against them. That's that's that's the highest chance of getting a good mark. And I bet I would have got away with it.

8:20 It's like the opposite of bringing an Apple injury. Yeah, it's like I brought 500 words of absolute ridicule to you today. Oh, and for our for our young listeners, I mean, the fruit. Yeah. Not the brain. Not pretty. Almost $2 trillion capitalization company, right? Yeah, that that's what we're talking about. It's like quiet for a Thursday, isn't it?

8:43 Yeah. What the hell? No garbage trucks. Dump trucks. We are about to go to a busier street, but still, one car on said busy. Oh. Two cars. Yeah, it's not nearly as busy as it normally is. It's kind of odd.

8:58 Man. Everybody must have just decided to take the day off. Thursdays. The new hump day, apparently. Hell, yeah. I mean, I would personally rather have a day off in the middle of the week. Is there something special happening today? No, I don't think so. Cool. Thanks.

9:15 Now we're, like, punctuating our podcast with specific dates and times.

9:21 Now you all know it's a Thursday of some bygone time. Yeah, because because, because an untimed stamped podcast is just not not 2022.

9:35 We should know the rule show. Yeah. That's true. So I watch this Fox News debate between Lindsey Graham and Bernie Sanders. Oh, fuck. Oh my goodness. How was that? I'm still pretty shocked at how articulate Bernie Sanders is for his advanced age. Okay, I'm I've never been shocked at how articulate he is, especially in comparison to the luminaries of the Republican world.

10:00 Have luminaries. Big bunny? Yeah. No, but that's that's a you know, I, I don't know, man. He doesn't look like, you know, he's some kind of exercise buff or anything, but somehow he's like, his mind is really sharp. Oh, yeah. Dude, for his age, I mean, you have to you have to just tip your hat to that alone.

10:18 Well, he's really sharp, and he, somehow has managed to go through the trials and travails of life and still give a fuck about people. Yeah. You know, I think I could actually debate him, like, because he has so much. He, he he goes back to the same line so much. Right. Like, you can almost predict how he's gonna how he's going to answer the question.

10:39 How he's gonna. Right, right, right. What he's like angle if he will, is going to be. Yeah. I'm sure. And I mean, I'm sure he could easily be rooted or crushed, but I like his viewpoint. Personally. I don't know how you feel about that. Yeah. No I would I would tell him like your rhetoric sounds great. And it really gets down to the, to the, you know, to the, to the family level and speaks to a lot of people struggle.

11:03 And so it resonates well and gets you votes, but you haven't affected any real change in your entire career. Well, it's a career politician that hasn't actually been able to really get anything done. So he has gotten some things done in his home state, but they aren't sweeping and large. And, you know, his his rhetoric the last few years has definitely been sweeping and large.

11:21 And I mean, you know, it does remain to be seen. Whether or not he would be able to work with people and get this thing done. And then you could just you could you can do the ad hominem attacks all day long. Right. You can say, you know, you talk all this jazz about climate change, but you took a flight down here, right?

11:40 Instead of instead of advocating we do this via zoom. Right, right, right. And you know, etc., etc. so on and on. And just keep going after the little nuances and he'll be like, yeah, yeah. You know, to win the win the debate with him. Sure. And then you go as far as you've just rolled over to whatever the Democratic Party has said, you know, you claim you go quasi in and out as independent or Democrat.

12:01 You know, you run as a Democrat because you need the endorsement of the big party, knowing full well that the corporations are behind that big party. The Democrat Republican convention is 100% in the pocket of big business. But you complain about. Yeah, 100%. And then he proceeded to complain about the Democratic National Convention, but then but then become part of it.

12:18 So like it wouldn't be it wouldn't be hard for and afterwards, which was funny, you know, it would not be hard to go in there armed with 50 things like that. Sure. And just mop the floor with them. But then. But then you have to ask yourself, why would I do that? Right. That's what I'm trying to say.

12:33 What would be the point? Other than just you could? Because, I mean, it would be very interesting to see what someone with his ideologies could do. Now, I don't think in this current political climate, they really have a lot of hope of having people to work with. No, that's that's exactly the thing. They're going to put Kamala Harris up.

12:57 Oh, I guess we'll talk politics today. Yeah. They're going to put Kamala Harris up as the next anointed one. Right. And that's what happened. You know, we saw how anointed ones worked really well the last. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. And the Republicans are going to do all their naysayer tricks that they've always done, like the Republicans. Gas prices. Right?

13:18 Like like Biden gas prices, they're the same. That's right. They they'll create some really simplified linkage between two. Just send seven companies a strongly worded letter about reducing a royal prices so that gas prices won't hurt consumers anyway. So the gas prices at the pump are less profit laden. Yeah. So that it so more closely resembles the international price of a dollar a barrel.

13:48 Like how much. How many dollars a barrel is you know, that translates more. That has strong correlation to the actual price at the pump rather than this big profit taking. Right. They're taking advantage of, you know, a bunch of situations, political situations. Yeah. I mean, you know, okay, okay, whatever price OPEC or whoever sets, it's like that's like the prime rate for a loan, right.

14:10 Yeah. Right, exactly. I mean, right. And so when we're talking about a for profit company profit taking and then having this like act, you know, acting out shock and dismay and alarm right over such a thing. So it's it's that thing like we joke about, you know, the snake convinces the person to, you know, bring it across the flooded river, right.

14:35 And guarantees that the snake won't bite the person. And then halfway through, the snake bites the person and they both drown. Or and the guy says at the very end, why did you bite me? And he goes, Because I'm a snake bitch. Or the alternative, which is similarly worse. All right. They don't bite you. But then they go on to kill for other people that day.

14:53 Yeah. Yeah. Or they wait until you're on the other end riverbank and bite you there. Right, right. But the idea of the snake biting the person midway through the river, and then the person weakens and they both drown. Right? And the snake was. I'm a snake, you know, is a good metaphor for, like, profit taking in a for profit, right?

15:12 You know, I was a business, and now I'm a profit making entity by very definition. Right. And so these manufactured crisis, these one after another are just ways that the businesses find ways to capitalize. I'll go figure that that that that words in play. It's so apropos. Right. They capitalize on every possible situation they can to increase their profit.

15:32 And the from the governing perspective. Okay. You have something of a tool. Now you can predict exactly what they're going to do. Right. And predictability and governments governance is an actual gift. Yeah. Right. So you have to you have to make laws consistent with the landscape that you know you're dealing with. Right. And you have to be agile enough.

15:58 And to recognize that with a certain immediacy and affect the laws while they still matter. Right. So during Tarp, during the, you know, housing crisis, let's give these, you know, banks carte blanche, like just let's give them blank checks because what they will do is they'll write loans to small businesses. Sure they will. Right. They won't just go and buy stocks, or they just won't send people on executive junkets or they just won't, you know.

16:27 So bonuses. So then, like at the end of the day, who's to blame? So like the woman that constantly goes for the bad boy that's a womanizer and they're heartbroken every time. Or the government. You know, I mean it is it's it's it's it's similar to that 1950s mindset of, well, he won't do it again. He said he won't.

16:48 Yeah. Right. There you go. There you go. 0000, here we go. Another. Another terrorist. He's whacking the shit out of that. Tells us politics sucks. Let's talk about pets. This pet is seriously happy. You see the ears all back and floppy tail wagging. Very cool, black dog. You're just like, man, I just love parking people. And you heard us, but didn't know where it was coming from, so his bark was misdirected.

17:17 Yeah, that was funny too.

17:20 It's like that blind old dog that just feels like it should be barking at something. It feels a purpose. You can just tell it. Yeah. It felt the wind bristle through its fur. And so therefore, something to bark at. But the corner store. Yeah. And now it's badass again. Now that we're down here. Right. It's like yeah, that's right.

17:38 Don't fuck you. Don't come over here. So like dog bites, right? It's a real issue in society. Like lots of people get bitten by dogs. And the way a dog's teeth are you know, specifically designed for kind of think with the foil on the windows. Is it a gross. No. Okay. Given the roof, it's very energy and efficient.

17:56 So they're trying to do everything they can to save on that power bill. Good point. Like put an air conditioner in the window. Yeah, yeah. So they can have one room. That's cool. Right. And save on the rest of the house. Yeah, that might have been the thinking. Bump the thermostat up and I didn't smell like hell. It's such a it's a looks like to be a 1930, 1,940 pound.

18:17 It might not have gone. Yeah. And it didn't. It didn't. It was porous enough to where if there's all kinds of plants growing, I think it would have smelled something. True. Yeah. But yeah. So, you know dog bites, right. Like the way the dog's anatomy of their teeth is designed. Right? It's for it's for penetrating and tearing flesh and creating, incapacitating its victim, you know, the kind of wound that it generates.

18:42 Right. And then, you know, yeah, when it's eating the flesh, it's designed to tear, right? Rip it off. Yeah. So, you know, we they're domesticated, but, you know, there's millions and millions of these things around, right? And with various degrees of psychological confinement and outside their natural environment, you can imagine, you know, a high incidence over time of dog bites, just given the sheer proportional volume, right?

19:09 Combined statistical chance at any given dog will, let's say, be sick or be in distress or not have the right emotional or environmental conditions. Right. Getting a little getting a little primal and lashing out. Right. And then let's not forget the popularity of really aggressive breeds. Yeah. Breeds that were breeds that were kind of domestic for pit fighting and other, you know.

19:34 Okay, okay. Pit bull. Right. Right. So, like, you know, dog bites are something that most people that just think dog is, you know, fluffy, cute puppy. Yeah. And that's it don't really take into consideration. I mean, even the little dog I have, if she put those jaws to it and used all of that pressure she's got, she could take a good chunk out of my.

20:00 She could totally wreck my hand in a minute. Yeah. Pretty much any dog could create could cause some damage, right? Yeah. To flush and, you know, and irreparable, I mean, really. And there's more cats, from what I understand in America than there are dogs. Okay. But I don't know, like from a biomass perspective, because a lot of dogs are bigger.

20:18 I don't know that stat, but I know there's last I heard, there's more cats than there are. Well, he just seemed to be every freaking where, and they're pretty self-sufficient, so I think they're lot easier to maintain than a dog. Yeah. As a pet. And they also can live easier as strays. I mean, they don't seem that way.

20:37 Yeah. Dogs seem to have a hard time. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Because they have to resort to killing larger things, too. Yeah. True. Yeah. Whereas cats can snipe birds and rats and make it, you know, make it and make it have little impact. Yeah. And oh, bird population, from what I understand too, is dramatically like that is that is the number one feature of bird population decline is cats.

21:04 Oh. So like the cat population that we keep as pets is telling all the birds. Yeah. Basically like, you know, not not just calling the population, but like, seriously curtailing. Oh, there's our sponsors zip system. Okay. We want to write to them. This is the third time we've mentioned you, your exterior coating, building products, you know, can you can you, it's like Astor Place to listen to her.

21:31 Yes. Your your superior cladding to cladding. Yeah, I love it. So, you know, then the the the iron, the irony and the, what do you want to call it? A hypocritical position of, like, vegans taking on carnivores as pets. Yeah. Like trying to trying to trying to feed them salad. Right. No, it's emaciated them.

21:57 Yeah. Look, the cat needs some meat. Just acknowledge it, okay? It those, Razor sharp. Watch it. Yawn. Right. And see how many pointy things are gleaming at you from across the room. It needs me. It yawns and you can see into the window of hell. Yeah. It's more. It is the very stuff of nightmares. Yeah, it is like, literally designed as a fucking killing machine, you know?

22:27 Yeah. You know, dangle the little string and watch its eyes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you'll see. Dilate. You'll see it's nature, right? Its prey drive is unnaturally high. Yeah, it wants to kill things. It's like, rub on your legs because I love you. Human murder. Murder murder murder. Kill murder, murder. I mean, you die. Seriously, a cat will eat you.

22:50 Start eating you within three days. Haha. It gives no damn. And it starts with your toes. Nice. Yeah. Damn. Like I can't even use my finger food joke. I guess I'd have to go with tater tots or something.

23:09 They are a little like meat tater tots. Morning. Come on. Yeah, it's like there's no real good. There's no real good way to approach that. I don't think there's a lot of good jokes just readily available. Yeah, it's a it's a bit macabre to face down and. Yeah, I mean, the only thing I can think of is like the classic go to, you know, pussies would be the death of me, but I always said pussy would be the death of me.

23:34 Yeah, but that's. That's too obvious. Yeah, but it's still a classic. And I'm glad we said it. So I have this, like, thing where, you know, a lot of people ask throughout your life, you know, if you died, you know, what would you want? What would it be? Buried, cremated, you know, whatever. I'd like a Viking funeral, Viking funeral pyre or the shooting arrow into it.

23:53 Oh, yeah. On the on the lake. Oh, it must be out on the lake. I must have a sword. I must be cradling a sword that is taller than I am. Yes, that's to be like twilight or overcast. Oh, yeah. Yeah, right. The most somber of situations. And then we have a party afterwards that, you know, is ridiculous.

24:12 And you want it to where? Like, there's a there's enough of a rudder on the thing to wear. It drifts you out and your and your, laying backwards with your legs open in a kilt and just got my balls on display as I'm burning. Yeah. And the archer has to be so skilled that at 500 yards, they could hit the sack with the flaming arrow with one shot.

24:34 Yes. Can you hit? Can you hit my tiny white man penis from 500 yards? It's like, dude, I can shoot an aspirin from 100. I think I got it. Dude, we have to, like, recruit way in advance. Right? Yeah. Like we pay into a monthly fee to have this whole thing like that on retainer. Yeah, so it's like lock, you know?

24:57 So our families get, you know, like, maybe, you know, a few thousand dollars in the insurance policy instead of, like, a million, but but then this, like, whole people that set up this spectacle are all, like, become millionaires. Oh, that's hilarious. Pay 250, you know, 500 bucks a month into the program from now until, like. Yeah, I think we should set up this program and pay ourselves administrative fees.

25:22 Yeah, well, so there's this thing in, like, where is it? Nepal. Right where they take out, and they put your body out, and the the the birds of prey are come down and, like, pick you clean, okay. Right. And just there's just so there's just boneyard. Right. All right. And, that that's fucking cool, man. That is cool shit.

25:42 Like, that's kind of cool. You go back into the ecosystem. Oh, yeah. Like on the side of this majestic, you know, mountain. Yeah, yeah. So you're on this mountain side with no one about sitting cross-legged in death, and everything is slowly picking away at you over a month or two. Right, right, right. And, you know, if you can get the time lapse, that'd be even better.

26:05 Oh, dude, that would be the thing. Set up a couple of trail cams and time lapse. Time lapse. Put that in your family archive for all your future generations to see. Do you think any start a family tradition? I think people would watch it. I would watch it if somebody and my family did that. I just don't have any kind of special regard for a corpse.

26:25 No, no, I'm perfectly okay if you bury me in the backyard in the cardboard box, I don't give a fuck. I used to mushroom soup thing, like. Oh, yeah, but the only thing I don't like about it is I have to pay for it. Yeah. You know, if there was, like, a DIY mushroom soup. Yeah. But really, in all truth and seriousness, I think, I used to, as a kid before I was 16, wanted to donate my body to the MIT buddy form.

26:56 Yeah. Okay, cool. And the reason I wanted to do that one, they pay you in advance. That makes sense to. And they stopped paying you. That's why I haven't actually signed up to do it. Because they pay in advance. And you use part of the money to get a really fucked up tattoo for the people doing the, you know, we're going to be doing it right.

27:19 That would be so great. But yeah, I mean, there you study just like you're talking about. You go back into the dust from whence you came. They would study decomposition with you. They would they would use you and, you know, different forensic situations. You would help further potentially human knowledge and train people to and dogs to hunt for bodies, cadaver dogs and such.

27:44 Okay. Really cool. So like put a purpose beyond organ donation to your to your body. Yeah. And you can click out all the damn organs. Just take my empty husk to the MIT body farm. Yeah.

27:59 Nice. And there's just, like, secret cabal of cannibals that are just, like, masterminding. And that's perfectly fine, I don't care. Yeah. I mean, the same as the, you know, the bird of prey eating my corpse. Yeah. You know, if humans were to dine on me, I would care the same. Like. Yeah, yeah. And in some countries, that was the, it was supplemental protein for the women and children they would eat.

28:24 From what I understand, there's some type of really bizarre diseases that. Come on, if you're a cannibal. Yeah. Like, the pre-owned based ones, something something like that happens to you. It's, there's one called kuru. Okay. And it is a it's similar to mad Cow. Okay. We won't go into how you know all this. I, I don't need to know.

28:45 Oh, the need to know. Basis anthropology. I a ton of anthropology classes. Fair enough. And but it's true. And, it's similar to mad Cow. The whole idea is it's fragments of proteins that they're just enough that they can replicate in and in your brain, and they drive you insane. Oh, geez. So they're not alive. They're not a virus, but they have just enough machinery to them.

29:13 They replicate, and they only come about by eating.

29:18 The same brain that you have. Okay, sure. So cow eats its own brain. Human eats its own brain. Creepy man. Yeah. So it's a brain tissue specifically, Okay, but you could eat. You could eat the person. Gotcha, gotcha. You eat the flesh, not the brains. Yeah. Do you remember when we were kids? Like, really? That taboo. A video came out.

29:43 Faces of Death. Oh, yeah. That was. And. Come on, don't tell me you don't remember the monkey spinning around one scene. I'm not sure if I do. They had a bunch of people with mallets, and there's, like, a macaque monkey, like, in a table with only its head sticking out. And it's like in the stockade now, and it's almost like this turntable.

30:01 Yeah, it's almost like a lazy Susan sort of thing. And they're knocking it on the head until it dies. And then they're eating the brain. Yep. Already then. 0000. I mean, we're talking about animal and machine rights. Yeah. Just I think that if there was some type of loss in you made against that, like that should be done.

30:23 Yeah. And maybe even very appropriate. Yeah. I mean, let's generalize it. But let's also talk about it in the case to let's say if you decide to do this specific act. All right. Here's your jail time. Yeah okay. Sure. Yeah. No questions asked.

30:42 Yeah. There's just certain things. Right. That would be. Oh, I don't know. Just stand out as just wrong. You just know they're wrong. Yeah. It's like really, really don't need any training. You don't need any. I don't know, it's hard to describe. It's like just your natural instinct and empathy tells you certain things are wrong. Yeah, right. And and you and you can say that that's the, you know, the compassion of the Holy Spirit within us all.

31:06 You're your conscience. You say whatever it is. But I think it's like mirror neurons and, you know, biological evolutionary theory that shows certain emotions have a necessity in society. They do, you know, very close minded people say, why would compassion develop with evolution? But you're not you're losing the idea that it's not about individual survival so much as about collective.

31:34 Right. And the collective is where the genes have the best strength, right? Absolutely. Like like your genome or my genome is unique, but.

31:49 At the same time, it's the collective health of the genome of the species that, that, that, that, that are more, more likely to cure survivability. Oh, go ahead and say that again. Since this thing the our second garbage truck of the day, the collective variety right in the genome is what secures the the the species, not an individual expression.

32:10 Right. We need we need variety. We need depth of the gene pool and we need quality. And I remember when I read, like, the Stephen Hawking's book about The Selfish Gene. I remember reading that long time ago when it first came out. And a really strong case is made for a certain degree of selfishness is important, right?

32:31 But it seems like nature also has a degree of socialism built into it. Yeah. You know, the odds that you go to someone else's aid, and that's a natural component of who you are. And the other person having that to increases your chances overall it does, but to a certain degree, right? Right. So there's like a certain sweet spot of compassion, right?

32:56 Personal. There's a compassion and personal risk, right. Because compassion is a driver. But the personal risk is the action. Yeah. So there's that whole thing like, you know, would you jump out in front of the train to push your child out of the way? And, you know, a majority of parents would say, absolutely, yes. You know, course, without even really thinking about it, whatever, really thinking about it.

33:19 But at the same time, I think when you dive in front of the train, you're trying to do it in a way where you live too. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're not you're not trying to kill yourself or you both. You're trying to come out where everybody lives. Is your progeny like, for real? More important than you?

33:36 I think from a genetic standpoint, yes. Yeah. From a societal and genetic standpoint. Absolutely. Like, you know, my breeding years, I mean, I could probably still father a child, but it's for all intents and purposes, my breeding years are gone. Right, right, right. You're prime breeding you. But my three children breeding years are ahead of them. Yeah. And ideally so for the society, it would be better if one had to go.

33:58 It would be me. Right? Right. Ideally that in some societies prioritize that say, look, we've got limited resources at an older age. Do you.

34:13 You go off to die or you do die.

34:18 But, I think I mentioned Star Trek yesterday when we last talked. And there's another episode of that too, where they do that exact thing at a at a certain age, you go to your, and I forget what it's called, but it's like your ceremony. Yeah. Where you're basically it's evaporated, like, you know, you're you're you're you're ended.

34:39 Yeah. And it's instantaneous. Yeah. They use technology to go ahead and just get it done. Right. And there's this big, yes. And, and then there's this big, ceremony around it where they celebrate your death. And it's something that they look forward to throughout your life. It's like something that is like a glorious time. Yeah. Hell, yeah.

35:00 And they take you out before you get decrepit and need all those medical resources and drain, drain society. I'm just saying it might make sense. It makes sense. But, I'm not saying we should do it, but I can see a lot of potential benefits. Yeah, this could be, like a really big case against dam trucks. This could be a really big case against utilitarian ethics, though, because you can say, you know, in a utilitarian perspective, you can see how that something like that would be the ethical thing to do, right?

35:31 Yeah. But in a, in a highly technocratic, you know, society where technology is creating a larger and larger divide, so there's less skilled transfer between the older generation and the young. Right. You can actually justify it even more so in that kind of setting. And but then here's, here's a counterpoint in that we have massive industries and resource allocation toward creating longevity.

36:02 Yeah. The question is, is that a good thing? Yeah. But the fact remains whether or not it's good we're doing it, we're trying to increase lifespan. We're trying to increase the life. We're trying to fix elements that come about purely from old age. Sure. If you if you look at death as a disease that everybody has. Right. And aging is the largest contributing factor, right.

36:32 You take that position right. Then I can see that making sense if you take a different approach to it and you say that, regardless of the age, there's this down, there's this downward trend of intellectual capability, physical capability, utility and usefulness of the of the biological unit, right. As time goes on, then there should be maybe a legitimate process for, you know, letting that fall off faster rather than later, sooner rather than later.

37:03 And maybe that takes the form of offering some sort of agency to the person. Yeah. And saying, you know what? You do have a safe way to offer yourself and a safe environment. Here's how. Yeah. And then you get into the whole argument of, okay, that sounds great. You go first. And but that's what I'm saying. Free agency there.

37:29 They have their choice. We don't force them. But if somebody is 75 years old and say they decide, you know, their body has gone to hell, their social networks not there, they have no support. They they decide they want to do this. Yeah, we support it.

37:52 Yeah. I think once you hit a certain degree of dysfunction and disability and pain and suffering, these comes up again. The whole world is a tie in one good big commercial cesspool of society, of brain. Yeah. Activity. True cesspool being the operative word.

38:13 That's cool. So we really have to find a stable route for our walks that don't include garbage trucks. We we avoid it in the first half. Yeah. Look legit what we were doing, and now we're getting infiltrated. Well, I guess because we're heading to the depot right now, I guess. Yes. So we have to find a new route where the depot isn't anywhere part of it.

38:40 Yeah, yeah.

38:43 That to mention the smell. Oh, it's heaven, I tell you. And the thoughts that come with it. And the images like.

38:56 You know, legitimately just seemed like that guy was revving his engine a little bit extra. Yeah, he's like those motherfucker, even though he wasn't even paying attention. Yeah, yeah. But. So when you when you see something like this armada of garbage trucks, right. Going out into society and the enterprise, you know, the all the elements built up around this thing, right?

39:24 Yeah. You just have to sit back in awe at how ridiculous, like bowels of the absurd. Like it's like you have to bend a knee to the absurdity of modern living. Like it's beyond absurd. Like, why are we generating so much fucking trash that we have to have this infrastructure? Yeah, sorry. I mean, to finish your sentence, but I think that's what you're doing.

39:50 That's fine. Yes, that's exactly what I was trying to say. And finishing my sentence is fine.

39:57 But, you know, this this, this infrastructure and this is true in so many different aspects of our lives and society. Like, you know, I pick on Coca Cola all the time in Marlboros, right? Like, they're so easy. It's such easy targets. Right. Coca Cola has no substantive value or any any similar software. And Coca-Cola is the most widely known.

40:17 So it's easy to say cola, but you know, like so there's the soft drink industry, quote unquote, if you will, has no tangible benefit of any type, any kind, any kind in society whatsoever. True. Oh, I'm going to go ahead and say there's stock tickers Co, if you want to invest after rent. Everything that we understand anything that we criticize is like actually an endorsement like.