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Judgment-Free Living, Gene Editing & Catfishing
With Kris Tyte & Sean Snodgrass
In this engaging and thought-provoking episode, Kris Tyte and Sean Snodgrass embark on a journey through cutting-edge topics like CRISPR gene editing, reverse aging, and future DNA-based medicine. From deep dives into calorie science and food addictions to humorous reflections on politics, radio personalities, catfishing, and societal shortcuts. No topic is too big (or too random) for this free-flowing and insightful discussion. This conversation also touches on human sexuality, complexities revolving around judgment and identity, and the psychological impact certain words can have.
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In this engaging and thought-provoking episode, Kris Tyte and Sean Snodgrass embark on a journey through cutting-edge topics like CRISPR gene editing, reverse aging, and future DNA-based medicine. From deep dives into calorie science and food addictions to humorous reflections on politics, radio personalities, catfishing, and societal shortcuts. No topic is too big (or too random) for this free-flowing and insightful discussion. This conversation also touches on human sexuality, complexities revolving around judgment and identity, and the psychological impact certain words can have.
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Now I am okay. So this morning I was reading about, you know, we were talking about Crispr gene editing tools. Yeah, yeah, there's one that, can do individual base edits and, you know, basically a point mutation on purpose. So they use this to cure some kind of disease. Yeah. Here to little girls. Leukemia. That's awesome.
And, did it with, like, a three step process where ultimately, they ended up making T cells as they took from a donor that would.
Chill her T cells that were killing her. Make the gene edit. It targets a very specific, disease or dysfunction and then go back and edit it again once. Once all the damage has been repaired. Yeah. So, like you're saying, beautiful, basically. Flip it out at will to cure a problem or a disease. So flip on or inject a mutation, cure a disease for somebody that has some kind of really rare thing.
Make this specific, change. And then once they're, they're healed from their illness, flipped it back off. Turn it back on. So great. That's crazy. Some diseases that some, I guess, low hanging fruit that we understand pretty well. So you can imagine to like this idea of the future where people, basically go have a fully run and then whatever corrections need to be made.
Made? Yeah. You get them made. Yeah. And then how about this too is like, from what I understand, when we age, our telomeres start to shrink. Yeah. It's like cutting the end up of a off of a huge list. Oh. So slowly. Just shaving the living a bit by bit. So. So it's like, maybe grab some day later.
They can kind of get your DNA from, you know, when you're young and then reinvigorate your DNA later when you're older. Oh, Jesus. That's crazy. But, like, reverse aging by giving yourself your own DNA back, something they're looking at curing because it would be a couple of base edits. Yeah. It is a sickle cell anemia. Oh, that'd be awesome.
Yeah. So awesome. As long as you simultaneously find some way to engineer a virus that can fully eradicate some malaria. Right. Because it is a mutation that protects or at least reduces the likelihood of getting malaria. Yeah. So it has its own dysfunction, but it helps you survive the death. Exactly. Death from malaria. Right. The reason it survives and persist in the genome is the malaria piece.
Right. Yeah. Now that's fascinating. Right? Like that's fascinating. The idea of some future where we cure a disease and then then undo the genetic changes that were naturally occurred to that are good for good in the context of whether the disease is prevalent, but bad once the disease has been removed. Right. Right. Maybe still somehow keep the. That's so cool.
I mean, though, my, girlfriend son is a.
Wrestling coach, has sickle cell, and dude, it causes him a ton of pain. Yeah, I've encountered several people in my life that have had it, and I'm that would open about it. And the the small handful of evidence that I've had. Is it some for some reasons, for some people, it's really, really to belittle. Yeah. For other people it's like just I have it and they kind of go mostly normal.
Well, I guess there's degrees. Apparently it doesn't cause him pain unless he engages in extreme physical activity, which he does cause.
Okay, but I don't know if this is true or not, but from what I understand, sickle cell can have, you know, a range of debilitating effects. Right. And some people have a more minor case than others. True. Yeah. I don't know if that's true. I'm saying that's a that's very I have experienced the same thing where you're saying there seems to be a range of how much problem this gives me.
Sure. Yeah. It's fascinating the idea that like, our not only not only like the DNA and gene, the genes, the full gene sequence of like, an offspring or an embryo can be edited. But the idea that maybe someday a full adult, you know, DNA could be edited, right? Not just the idea during in utero, but, yeah, at a living, breathing adult that's otherwise high functioning can have a couple of things, you know, just fixed up in the lab.
Here's something weird idea that's pop in my mind. What? What if you were to, like, reactivate person's youth hormones? Like the phase. They're prepubescent, like their youth, luxuriant energy and all that. Like, like, reactivate that phase of someone's life. So, like, they grow a new set of teeth. Oh, shit. Like, you know, this weird. Like, you know, I'm sure you'd have all sorts of weird effects.
Like, adults start doing weird stuff, like just randomly jumping on the couch and playing with.
Like, it just triggers all this, like, their infant acne. Yeah, there's definitely this fire in their belly of, like, they have to get up and move because of their their youthful energy is so, so kicking. You know, adults joke about it all the time. I wish I had that kind of energy. I know they see some kids, right?
It's like, no they do. Oh. And that's trying to play out in like social normality, you know, adult life. Yeah. That would be tough. It could be pretty good comedy sketch I guess. They've done that. They've done that. We're like the adult and the child change places. Right. Like their Friday type thing? Yeah. Their minds. Their minds swap.
Yeah. Spying us from behind a tree, a little cat. Well, you you see, it's so funny. Cats. Oh, I was just thinking this morning to. On the way over here because the person I drove Sue's car over. So, her radio station. Mine's always on NPR. Hers is on, like, I don't know, I don't forget what it was 107.9 or something.
And the the the DJ's weren't really that funny, but, Yeah, that used to be Bob and Sherry back in the day. It still is. Yeah, I know I like bombed Sherry. It's like they're funny, but like, I don't know, I rather not listen to what they're not as well. Yeah. It's weird. Like they're. If you're in the mood to embrace your middle aged man.
Yeah. Sides are funny. And. And I noticed that, like, I, I don't listen to often, but I, would periodically it would turn on, like, time to time. I flip it on and hear them over the years, and I, and I noticed something really strange is that Bob started to have a speaking cadence and more of like, started out more of the personality to share it.
Oh, that makes sense. I mean, there's been a huge amount of time together. Yeah, but her personality is so strong. It's like it's it's it's subsumed. Yeah. His assumed his, his. Yeah. His speaking mannerisms and his. Okay. And his. Just found another word. I can't say I like that. That's a good word. So. Yeah. So. So, I think Sherry's personality overall was the dominant.
Yeah. Yeah. Fine. Yes. She swallowed his like an amoeba. Yeah. No. I've never. Don't spoil it for me because I'm never going to like. And I don't need to, but I don't even know what she looks like. I've never seen a picture of her, so. But I have a picture in my mind, this on the voice, and I would find it.
And I'm fine with that sort of shit. All right. Seriously. I'll give you a greatest. How close you are. Okay. I'm picturing like, 30 pounds heavy, but still not fat. Like, you know, just a little bit. Not not not not very petite either. Yeah. Kind of redhead, maybe, shoulder length hair. Not normal face, as far as, like, you know, not chiseled, not round like happened in between.
That's that, that's it. With was really white teeth for some reason. That's really okay. How close my from what I remember. Probably way out. Longer hair than what you say. Okay. This is our hair. All right, well, it's shoulder length. Yeah, it's what I said. So I wasn't thinking like a a pixel. Yeah, yeah. Somewhere around right here.
Okay. So not too far off there. Yeah. And then, you know, redhead. Brunet. But. Okay. Brunet. Dark. Okay. Yeah. And then, high cheekbones. Okay. But still the over the ever weight Middle East look. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, total guess. Right. But I probably describe like 90% of all women anyway, so not really didn't take any credit here, but.
Yeah. But okay. Yeah. Now, now if I do see a picture, it's not spoiled. Yeah. But it's cool like to kind of imagine a person's from their voice or from their, you know, some, some type of where you're not seeing a direct image of them. Oh, yeah. It's just fun to life. But I mean, that can that can open you up for some pretty hard for catfishing.
It's true. If you you might not really let yourself fall in love until you see the picture. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point because, you know, there there would be a point of no return like you've you've gotten to the point where you're fully emotionally invested. And unless she's like some type of burn victim or something, you know, she was that, that, the catfish show on, I may have seen an episode one.
Yeah, I might have seen an episode once. I definitely get the premise. I've unfortunately watched her Herculean amount of them, but was in really into it. I see. I never really had to watch it. I didn't think because I figured it was kind of a recurring theme. It is a recurring theme, but there's so much variation in there.
Hey, you know, there's the cafe, the humor, the human element and the drama element. They figure out so many different ways to trap people and the two things, but usually everyone is so incredibly invested. You're really not sure if they're going to not buy in? Yeah. So there's some time, I'm sure, in the show where they accept in some sense they do, no matter what happens.
Way more than I thought would happen. Wow. Wow. Interesting. You know, I guess if you're hungry enough and you do pull up the catfish from the bottom. Yeah, find a way to prepare it. Yeah. It's like, well, it tastes like mud, but I got what I wanted. It's greasy and disgusting, and it probably caused me more, loss of body from defecation than it than I've gained in calories by eating it.
But I'm so really hungry right now. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and give me a cup of sea water while you're right. I was looking for a meal, I got it. Wash it down with some brackish sea water. No, no, no. Yeah. Maybe some barrel crackers. Well, yeah. Yeah. Crumble them on the side. Sounds. That sounds thoroughly disgusting.
There are these meals, you know, that that are like reverse, calorie meals. So there's, like, certain meals that you can eat that have more. It takes your body more energy to process the food like that. What other foods? I think there's, like, some cabbage stews that you can make, like some. Yeah. I think there's some, like crockpot, meals that you can make, like red cabbage, a certain red cabbage stew with very low calorie broth.
Oh, I think it's like an actual negative calorie food. There's there's a list. You go to the internet and search up, like negative calorie foods and, like a glass of water is like that, right? Yeah. So, you know, you drink lots of water and, Yeah, your body has to your body has to, like, come up with the calories.
So the so like he didn't cross cold water. Or even hot water. Your body has to. What is it about bringing it back to a temperature body can handle. Yeah. And it's your it's your difference right. Right. It's your calorie to begin with. And then you have the metabolic process to process the water. So like a glass of water is negative homeostasis that to you ingest the cold or hot water.
Yeah. So Kelly okay. Yeah. And from what I understand, hot water will make you lose weight faster than cold interest. You think the opposite, like, your body would have to raise the calorie of the cold water. Yeah, but, what's interesting is that food calories are actual kilocalories, so, I don't know. I don't want to be like a professor this morning.
It's not like. But, a food calorie is actually a killer calorie, so it's a thousand calories of actually given a calorie is defined as a, the amount of energy it takes to raise one gram of water, one degree Celsius. It's a calorie. Yeah. So, one food calorie, you know, calorie listed on a package of food in the on nutrition information.
One food calorie is actually a thousand. Yeah. Calories. So that's a killer calorie okay. So a lot of foods that we are just crazy packed with energy. You know, it makes sense. The, the the, the biological energy potential of the food is very high. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so again so you think, well because because then on say, you know, you look at the back of the package says, oh, this, this session things 800 calories, right?
Then you're like, oh 800 calories in terms of, well, not really zero or a couple of zeros. Yeah. Three. Three. Three more zeros. Yeah. So it's actually really, really energy packed. But the reason they they do kilocalories and not calories on the packaging is because the numbers would be so big, people wouldn't be able to make sense of it.
Yeah I like this like, Federal Reserve spending reports, balance sheet reports. Right. Yeah. Like the numbers look like they're in the thousands. But then you have to add a billions to it, right? You just have to scale it. Yeah. So there's a certain implied scale to food packaging and a certain implied scale to budget reports. Right. Right.
At certain levels. Yeah. Yeah. When you're dealing at the level of the government debt, you know, then, then then then your numbers are the, the head of the of billion. Right, right right, right. So like the whatever the number of billion. Yeah. So, so 1250 billion, 1250 on their balance is 1.25 trillion. Yeah. Yeah. Because of the scale.
Right. So really, really at the end of the day when you're just dealing with numbers and you just have scalars, at that point you can just abstract the whole thing like who cares? Drew. It's a, it's a, it's an abyss. Yeah. I mean what one more drilling dealing with trillions. I mean it's like no person's mind really is, is around that.
Yeah. You can't attenuate yourself to that really. You know, so that's, we're talking to a beef guy, you know, rates himself $1 billion loan for the company. Right. So it's like, that's a that's a thousand million. Like, I have a general sense of a million, right. So but now I have to, like, reconcile. Think about a thousand million but bright.
Right. And you know, and here you check what I just don't get it. And then, you know, they arrested him the day before he was supposed to testify to Congress and, you know, spill the beans, so to speak, but, apparently. Well, because those sorts of governments want a piece of his ass. Right? So if they if they stopped him before he testified, he could potentially use that that platform as another grift, just like Trump would do.
Exactly. Which is why they shut him down, right? Yeah. He could he could go in there and have aligned a whole bunch of things beforehand that are going to that he knows they're going to change based on his testimony. Right. And then they change after the testimony and then he cashes in. And but everybody from Turkey to the Bahamas to the US to the UK wants his ass.
So there's this like stupid thing. But it is fun. It's funny when they talk about someone living rent free in someone else's head. Oh, yeah, I love that it is. It is a nice little it's kind of funny praise, but the, you know, conservative Republicans for a long time have been saying, you know, Trump is living rent free and all the friends heads, the Dem's heads are right around the than.
Yeah, didn't start the Dems but dooms not the Dems, the Dems, the motherfucking dimwits. And that's what's so nice about not having a dog in the fight. You can kind of laugh at both things. And so both. I wish I didn't have a dog in a fight. I thoroughly, with every fiber of my being, every piece of my soul is against Trump.
Oh okay. Okay. So so more or less you're again. Oh yeah. Well you know, medium or whatever. Live there. I mean, I'd be a little tired if I was retarded about those things. I'm. I am definitely retarded about some things, but not necessarily liberalism. I just absolutely can't stand Trump and his ilk. Gotcha. So the thing that dropped just the other day, the big announcement was the NFTs, the Trump and FT's on there.
You saw that already right? Yeah. Like oh my god, that's so funny. And you know, like from what I understand Steve Bannon is like saying cringing about it. And the former General Flynn is like even cringing about it really. Flynn Flynn was using the hell out of him as a platform to just make stupid money. Yeah. So, like, they're all in on this grift, right?
Yeah. And, I thought Steve Bannon was like, I thought for fraud related to build the Wall. Yeah, it's still cashing out a podcast or something. And, like, I don't even understand how that works, but. Wow. You think that, like, you do fraud people out of millions and and get, you know, convicted of it, found guilty, indicted and then convicted of it.
You think that like, you don't just go on and live in a normal life like I don't understand, okay. Case in point, Jordan Belfort, the wolf of Wall Street, right? That guy still running around giving her. I read an interview the other day. That he was talking about SBF. Yeah. It's not that great, I love it. Isn't that great?
That's like Michael Cohen talking about how how what a scumbag Donald Trump is. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Every time I see a video game on TikTok, I slide like I am not listening to that guy. I listen to it. Oh, do you think I might see him on the news, I slip? No way. I'm not listening. It just makes me grin.
It's just like it's hilarious. But he's just playing out on the other side. He's cashing in on all the different channels that he can. He gets money every time he appears on the news, right? As a guest speaker, subject matter expert, whatever. But I have. And now he's like some kind of weird quasi hero of the left.
Yeah, he is like, what the. So great. It's so great because I, I feel like that's the smarter way to go than what way and Bannon are doing well, because it's totally a smart thing to have jumped off the Trump train at this point. Well, I'm saying to jump off the Trump train when he did, he's probably made way more money than if he stayed on it.
Yes. Yeah, yeah. And in fact, like, he wasn't a household name until he got busted. Right? Then he gets busted, then he makes a show. Absolutely. Just, I mean, publicly decrying and denigrating Trump and saying the man ruined my life, my family's life. We are rested. Me, when I was in a restaurant, ruined my wait, wait. Wink. Now, all this free publicity, now in the household name.
And I met millions a year hating Trump.
It's just it's just a giveaway to this class of people, I swear. It's like it's just a giveaway. It like the the the way, the only way that it's ever going to change if the public just turns their back and says, we don't care at all anymore. The thing I don't care about anything if to say, I feel like if we did that, we'd have to consider doing the same thing as the Kardashians and Hiltons and well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it. Let's stop listening. Yeah. You know, let's stop making people famous for being famous, right? I mean, my goodness. Let's start propping. Well, let's let's let children know the names of Noel Petrides recipes. And, you know, I have to give it to Willow's school. She's in second grade, and, dude, she comes home all the time talking to me about scientists.
Do you know this person? Do you know that person? Oh. That's awesome. And we talk about them really cool. One of her favorites is Katherine Johnson from the movie Hidden Figures that worked with NASA and did a lot of the math behind some of the first space missions. Nice. Nice. And, you know, think of really back that she's really behind it is played the the lady was black and you know she she I don't know she's really into experiments and playing with things and seeing what happens you know.
Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. And, get one of those home chemistry sets. Well, we got, like, the home that does, like, all the chemistry magics. So we've got a couple of books that we take things from around the house, and we do experiments with them. You know. Well, the Anarchist Cookbook, and that's like, what are you doing?
You know, each in the morning, you watch this. There's flavor there, flavored like potions you're making, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's things like you make invisible ink out of lemon juice or anything. Yeah, yeah. Or you make. They called it a, it was this bleeding werewolf potion, and it just involved, you know, a lemon juice. Yeah, dude.
And, it would have. And baking soda and some food coloring and see that? Yeah. You know, you have, like, these red boxes, you know, like this are the the distributed blockbusters. Yeah, yeah. Where you actually get the DVD, like, you can go to a red box and get titles that aren't. I haven't done it for many a year, but yes.
Well, you still see a lot of people lined up at the thing. Yeah. Because it's it's a good idea. She waved us on this. Of course she has the authority. Well, I mean, I love it, I love it at this point, if I would, I do want to make sure before I cross in front of it. Multi pound machine.
Yeah. They're going to let me cross. Yeah. It's. Yeah I love it though. We talked about that. It's just the psychology. It's just brilliant. You know I mean it's like the crosswalk is the right of way of the pedestrian. Everybody that's involved with the exchange knows the suggestion has the right of way. And it's their legal obligation to stop at the damn thing.
So they stop at everything you place, not the way it's supposed to do. They stop, yet they still find it necessary to wave you on. You know what's probably going to change that? Okay. Yes. Because right now we have to be in agreement that both humans exactly are going to honor the social contract. Right. And but at the end of the day, the person with the dangerous technology still has some authority.
Well, they do, of course, because they hit the fucking dangerous, right. They have that machine. Yeah. And but what I'm saying is, maybe after a generation of, you know, self-driving cars, they're just going to stand there and stared blankly at us instead of waiting on, you know, good 20, 30 years tech their smartphone while they're right, like, oh, it's the time to look at my smartphone.
Yeah. Which is every 100% of the time. Right, right. So, so the the, the the whole future of driving car, of course, is like nobody paying attention at all anymore. Oh, dude, I'm taking a nap in that motherfucker. Yeah, that's.
I mean, that is the end result for sure. Like, fully not just doing your own thing while a car strike, right? I'm taking a nap from, like, grooming my eyebrows. Whatever the hell needs to happen. Sure is what I'm doing. Like that, insurance commercial where the person's eating pizza, putting on makeup, handling coffee, messing with the radio, touching the cell phone, all the smoking cigarette, everything.
It's all happening. This is my multitasking me time. Hilarious commercials. Like, yeah, multitasking. Distracted driving. Yeah. You're talking about distracted driving. And, like, the cars in the simulation, and it's going bouncing up and down. It's like moving is jostling for the first time to put on makeup. And there's a person with a pole with a piece of pizza on it, pushing it in their face.
All this distraction. Well, good times, I love it.
It there was an interesting shift where, you know, commercials, converted to like, just make someone smile or laugh and you don't even really need to, in this case, did connect to the product. But if as long as it's funny, it doesn't even have to connect to the product directly. Like you don't have to advertise anything about the functionality or whatever the product, you just made people laugh, right?
There's like commercials now that just just are humorous and that's it. Like some Geico commercials. Well, or some, some any, you know, like a couple of years ago, the commercial on the. Yeah. Super Bowl. Yeah. And the, the jury does like still some of their commercials still integrate the whole idea of, like, the person is clamoring for the Dorito, right?
Like, yeah, like a strange addiction level clamoring for the Doritos. Yeah. Addicted to the milk protein. So, yeah, I, I, I read it at some point that there's an addictive quality of the casein, the protein found in milk proteins. There's some, some kind of, possibly addicting element in the brain that anything that ends in an Ng like that in sound.
Nicotine, morphine, heroin. Right. It implies that binds to a receptor. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like that. I feel like I'm doing that. Whatever. Kabbalah, song. Yeah. It's you, babe. Nicotine, morphine, some. You know the song. You heard that? Yeah. I don't remember her first name, I don't know. Doesn't matter. The middle. Cabello.
Camila. Yeah, yeah. That's it. Are you saying listen to Mila Tobago? Cabello. All right, all right. Yeah. That so, like any sound, right? Is, is a is a ketone a certain chemical receptor part, right. Yep. That's so that's why they are receptors like dopamine heroin, opioids. Right. Yeah. Morphemes all these have the same kind of yeah. Yeah.
Chemistry that binds to a particular type. So in the same kind of family like the old weird family you have type of thing. But there's actually like why nicotine is so addictive and why morphine and, you know, dopamine, all these things are so powerful. Mental chemicals. Right? To have receptors for them. Yep. Try it. Neuroscience scientists out there.
Whatever. Elizabeth's cringing right now. It might say fuck that up so hard. Yeah. And what the fuck was like? I tried to say, yeah, it's like he could have said it so much better if he had read my on to my online course.
Read, read the first sentence of my, you know, my my paper. Yeah. We're just sounded better than all that. I'm telling you, they he probably got an online course gonna hawk us soon as we put up the forum link, like we're getting we're getting a neuroscientist with an online course. Yeah. And she'll be female from the Midwest.
Probably because, I mean, let's just say. I mean, if she's good looking and smart, it's going to sell. I say yes. Yeah. It's, there is there is something just naturally about the idea of someone good looking and smart. Yeah, yeah. That's, I introduced Megan the other day to the to the idea of a, of the whole idea of a, CPO sexual.
Yeah. Yeah, it she was like, why I didn't do that. Thinking, you know, being smart, thinking about thinking, being sexy, thinking about, you know, like. I mean, I got to be honest, Summer, having five degrees was attractive to me. There you go. So there's something about, For some people, the intellect is the most sexiest trait, right? So, like, yeah, for some people, that's sexually arousing, like, intelligence is sexually aroused.
I think it's a component for me, but it's not a chief one. But it's like, man, yeah, that's on the list. If I can pick the ideal set of traits, we definitely need somebody who can think your way out of a paper bag. So there's this there's this really interesting paradox is like, maybe the infatuation with the intelligence could then cause other your other senses to just, like, change.
Like that's shallow. How? Like you're not even seeing. Well, that's it wasn't that. I wasn't saying that. But then their impact was lessons because she was so smart, so sarcastic, so hilarious. All of those things that are related with that, I would think would be related to the sexual thing, all of those traits that arise from your mind that I was willing to accept the compromise on Mother's Days and everyone I've ever met, I think I've only met one person, one female, that I felt was attractive because of their way that they think, yeah.
And, so I don't know, I don't think I'm a CPO sexual. There's only one I think in recall. I think that true said because sexual is very rare. But I would say for a lot of us, it probably is a component that we admire. Yeah. Okay. So like you're in the mix or proportionately safety sexual. Yeah I would say it would be a rare thing for someone to be chiefly CPO work expert.
I mean, when you. Yeah, I would say so. So I was asked recently by a person who's already going to name them specifically, but I was asked specifically about this person I was having a business meeting with talking about advertising, and she had asked me. Her, her partner, the, the she was with, give me the sales pitch, went to the bathroom.
Right. And it was the conversation was was done about the advertising thing. We had moved on to, just general conversation, and we were talking about all kinds of range of stuff. And the guy went to the bathroom. She asked me specifically about sexuality. All right. Like my thoughts on, you know, so what about what else that's happening right now with sexuality and blah, blah, like, you know, in, in, in, in society.
And I said, the problem is that. So as long as you know whether you want a hand job or to the table, but if. No, no, no it wasn't. No, no, I, I wasn't even going for that. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Although now in retrospect, maybe I could have got. No, no, I have children played with. No, no, I don't think I was, I don't think it was truly an option, but, I'm, I'm, I'm wondering why, like, I don't know, I'm just thinking, like, in retrospect, how come I wasn't even thinking about, like what?
What happened to my manhood had an idea, like, I'm supposed to be a dog. I'm supposed to have. It's supposed to have thoughts, right? I think that's I think that's supposed to thing. It's kind of dumb. Men think about sex seven times every second or something, you know? Like, I don't think that's true. Yeah. So who's the thought police that did that study?
Yeah, right. And if I thought about sex that much, I'd have I would be dysfunctional. Absolutely I did, I did, George. I, I actually, you know, do have to confess, I, I don't think about sex much at all. I don't. Yeah. Are something wrong with me? I don't know. No, you're not getting old or something, I don't know.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with it. You just got other things to talk about. Your brain.
Yeah. I'm thinking back to, like, even when I was a kid, I. I didn't think about it unless there was a reason to. So. Yeah. You know, like, unless there was a little seed crystal planted for some reason or another. Yeah, it's it's weird. Anyway, so I'm, like, thinking about a thousand things right now. But anyway, go back to it.
So she'd ask me about. And so I tried to give like this. You know, we've explored a lot of ideas about you and I and our conversation that lots of people about this, this topic. And so I was able to what I thought give a pretty decent synthesis of my belief on it. Right. So I switched to her.
Oh, look, society has all these different labels and identities and concepts and social groups all spun up around all this idea of human sexuality. And there's science that talks about human sexuality and sociological studies, and there's cultural overlays to all these things. And then there's the person's individual preferences. There's the person's individual tastes and choices through their experience data of their objective reality.
Right. Yeah. And so at the end of the day, every single person's sexuality is 100% unique. It's like a fingerprint to them. Right. And so there's no reason to worry about any kind of labels. We're about any kind of pejorative, really. I think we need that safe space idea that, you know, hey, societally, we just need to say people can do whatever the hell they want, and it's just fine sexually, as long as it doesn't palm another person or their choice.
I just and I went on to say, I agree with what you said, and I agree. And I and I went on to say in the same thought is that what we should be doing is kind of having a knee jerk reaction, have, have keep at arm's length these labels. Yeah, because for the most part their limiting and they're in many cases pejorative.
There we go. Yeah. Because we don't need negative kind of any more negative connotations put around this. And they're just latent. There are latent ones, you know, that we really can't get rid of thanks to our Puritan inherited. Right? Yeah, exactly. That's the cultural overlay. So human beings are naturally from musculus. It's a good thing because it's nice to have population continuation.
Right. And, and, each person's morning, each person's unique desires and, and and, and, things that they find erotic is 100% tailored, unique to each person. Absolutely. There could be some commonalities amongst people, but in general, everyone has a unique flavor. Everybody's got their own kink, their own fingerprint. Yeah, well, fingerprint is under it. Figure print does sound way better.
You know, it's a nice way to say it, but I think that's the truth. I think that's the truth. And she was like little bit taken. Like she was like, wow. Like I've never heard of it that before. Right. And then she says, thank you. Nice. And then a guy comes back. Oh that's cool. And so she needed to hear that for some reason.
Yeah, yeah. And and and that meant something at ease for her. It it really felt like it did. Yeah. And, Yeah, it was just this really weird moment. But at the same time, it was like, it seemed like it did give, give her some type of. Yeah, some kind of relief or almost like vindication. Justification. That's good, that's good.
Yeah. And I didn't set out for that. I just set out to tell what I thought was the answer. Right. But you freed her from something. It did something. It resonated with her for some reason. Yeah, yeah. And that's her business, right? That's great. I'm just happy. Yeah. That was able to be done. Very cool. That's another, liberation in life is learning how to be mostly judgmental, free, judgment free.
Yeah. Right. So like, well, you open up opportunities and interactions you wouldn't have if you were not if you didn't project that. Exactly. That's perfectly stated. Exactly right. That's exactly what I was saying. And, the opposite of that is true too, right? So you're curtailing options and possibilities by, you know, being judgmental and right. Not just not just always giving endless benefit of the doubt.
Yeah. Right, right. It's so easy to kind of cross your arms and snarl at the world right through judgmental and, you know, kind of, kind of take yourself back for no reason. Young kids, get off your lawn. Yeah. Came to the sky I can't wait, can't wait for what's inevitably coming. Right. Being a doctor, no shit motherfucker. Because that's what I sound like.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's my normal boy. What do you mean?
It sounded like an even more crotchety version of Herbert servers. Oh, God. Oh, boy.
How you doing? Oh. We're cool. Good morning, good morning.
So I was also thinking, oh, the whole reason I brought the radio people. Yeah. This is how we meander back. You know, if we had really expensive editing, we could, like, splice our conversations into actually discrete packages where we're where everything would sound cohesive, well thought out and plan. Yeah. We suddenly, like, stop talking and start talking again, but, you know, but at least the ideas are in packages.
You're right. So the radio of people is they're talking about, cats and dogs like their preferences. Like, so what's, what's a, what's a deal breaker. You're meeting somebody like, what's a deal breaker? And one of the BJ's said like cat if they have a cat okay. All right. All right. And DJ said, well are you allergic to cats?
And she was like mentally, mentally. It's like, oh God. Well, funny but not funny. I was like, yeah, right. And, it reminded me of something that I've thought in the past and continue to believe that, like, if you don't like kids and if you don't like dogs, if you don't like animals in general, like living things that have emotion, you might be something off with you and probably think about that.
You're probably broken and, you know, need some time alone. Stick by yourself. Something might not be quite right. No, it's it's possible that. Just sheer preference. Now, you don't like it, so. Okay, let's let's give that. But but in general but in general. But in general if you're misanthropic and hate people and then you're against cute cuddly animals as well.
Yeah. Like we can pick one of those. Yeah. It's it's not even cute and cuddly. It's just living things with emotion. Yeah. There we go. There you go. If you might possibly connect with. Yeah. Like that can make iHeart. They can make eye contact I.
You know, a thing. Something some creature with an emotional intelligence about it. Right. And look you in the eye. Right. It's like this. There's just. Yeah, there's there's just a living connection, you know? Yeah, that it's like, now I understand. Like, there's there's things that could be like to the point where past you can have a rat infestation and you have to just put out rat traps or find some way.
I mean, I didn't have a hard got it, but that's what I've been going through some last couple of months. Yeah. In certain circumstances, you can't just have a heart. Everything, you know, and yeah, it's kind of what I was in my room and he was like, just spray this mint concoction, it'll get rid of the rats. I was like, okay, I need you to understand it's not going to get rid of the Rex.
The rats are just fucking with the smell of mint area. Yeah. I was like, they're going to continue to have a party with the squirrel and the mice that are in my room. They don't give a fuck that. It smells like mint. In fact, it's the opposite. They become really saturated with like, there was mint. Like they like, man, this is a place to be.
It's warm, comfortable. I've had a thousand babies in the location and I just love it. Now, while Ryan Reynolds sell me a phone.
I'm ready to go.
Oh, oh my homies. Hell, yes! Oh, that was good. So. So it's, you know, really interesting psychological, like, you know, these people that in politics, they do like all this word. They, they, they take different words and they have focus audience and ask them to gauge their reaction. They have a little dial, like they even dial like bus and minus.
Oh, I do want to say I did try them in and it didn't. Okay okay okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. So they have these focus groups where they try political speech out on people or different words, you know, like a so, you know, think tank. They get together and they have a bunch of people, general public people come together from their voting base, you know, and they have some they say words or phrases.
And then the people in the audience, the, the part of the study like literally take a dial, okay, that's like spring loaded to zero and then positive and negative. Wow. Like how much that that resonated with them from a positive and negative. And they can also strap them with heart monitors and get their pulp and their restoration rates and all shit and see how emotional it plays out.
These words play out with. Okay. And then use these words and these phrases in certain ways to frame a political speech, to invoke certain ideas and emotions and, you know, feelings out of people, which will then hopefully never bring them to the polls and vote for their people. Sorry I didn't. No. It's fine. So, you know, there's this like that's bringing it down to the science of manipulation, right?
So it is and it seems on face value scummy. It does, you know. But but but in the sum game you can see how it would be used, at least a game that you want to couch a zero sound. Yeah. And so the just the awareness of how we frame language, an everyday use and then also towards particular subjects, it's really telling about kind of the truth of something.
So like if we refer to squirrels and mice as rodents, right. Because they're in the rodent family rights. Rodentia. Yes. What we're doing is we're that that word is loaded and has a pejorative, meaning to it that says that is leaving and creatures are detrimental. They're they're just vermin, right? Supreme. Exactly. You're thinking the same thing. They're just vermin.
That that, you know, that it's okay to just exterminate and eliminate because they're undesirable. I was joking about Vermin Supreme. Whatever had to do in their. You should have seen the two rats that I that died in my room that I had to remove. Yes they were. There was definitely the Rat King in there. I swear there are big boys.
Berman Supreme was hanging out. Wow. Something about a really fat rat that just makes it more disgusting. Oh, dude, it's so gross. Yeah. So, like, you know, some people, they don't even see rodents or any kind of vermin as any kind of, way at all. In fact. I mean, when they start feeding on your stuff and shredding it, maybe you would.
Yeah, that'll happen. Or they'll have bedbugs and they can't get rid of them as their natural. They can't kill it, you know, put the mattress outside and like all is still have it in your house, in your clothes. It's cool. Yeah. I had a, I had a associate that was person in Nova Scotia who I got to know and it was a really cool dude.
And, but this was his mentality to extreme passing. Yeah. And I don't usually do this, but I kind of like, I really strong arm the conversation. I was like, I would have I very rarely like an adamant and telling somebody something. But in this case I was like, man, you're wrong and it's detrimental to you. Yes, yes, yes.
And you know, we don't associate really much anymore. And yeah, so I don't think he like that, but I'm sorry I couldn't help myself because it was wrong. It's disgusting. It's like, that's toxic, you know. Yes. In fact, like, maybe you shouldn't be around my kids. You. You're spreading pestilence at that point. Like. And that's it. You know, you're allowing yourself to be fouled and spread something that's communicable.
Yeah. So there's a there's a utility in doing this. Like, you know, rodents, you know, there is a certain utility. Well there's a certain societal benefit wearing individual. Right. For sure. So thinking I think in certain cases there's a there's a usefulness or utility in this pejorative language. It's a shortcut. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah it's a shortcut. It's it's also and I look at, you know, certain strictures in the Bible as being the same thing, like the list of unclean animals.
All right. All of those things, if you cook them wrong, still on long, you can get really sick. Sure. And so it was, was when you don't have temperature thermometers for cooking and. Yeah. Or, you know, cold storage probably make a lot of people say, yeah. So yeah, let's go ahead and make that list and say, you guys can't eat these.
Totally makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. It's a societal shortcut. Yeah. So could you make that same argument for racism? No, I don't know. You have to convince me on that one. See? All right. See you. Hi. Hi. Masterfully tied in Bible scriptures to enjoy an instant by linking it to racism, income, and now lifting, praying. The thing is, with this racism, I mean, all right, with any quick category that we put someone in, it falls into the same thing.
These quick categories can still be wrong. And these shortcuts aren't necessarily right. But racism would fall under a societal shortcut. So it's a great. You're making a case for racism. Oh well I'm saying it's a societal shortcut that's wrong. Oh it's wrong. Okay. But in my list of the bad foods is not wrong. And I am saying I don't like any of those restrictions.
Gotcha. Like, I don't I don't abide by the Jewish list of unclean foods. I think all of those foods are amazing and delicious in the modern world where I can. And you're clearly wearing fabrics of mixed materials. Yes. And I'm going to. Because material science is bad ass. You should be stoned to death. Material science is great. The modern world has brought these things together to create a jacket that is lightweight and keeps me warm in a huge amount of circumstances.
Yeah. So the shortcuts. I think what some people do is they cherry pick them to act in their in their debacle way right here. Yeah, they'll use it as justification or use these shortcuts as or use them as hot buttons to go ahead and up there. You know, they use them as hot buttons in their populist speech.
To go back to what you were saying about what gets people riled up. Yeah. So they're talking about reparations in California to hear that one. No, they're like legit thinking about doing some reparations over there and making cutting checks. That doesn't upset me. Well, does not have said I wouldn't get reparations, but. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is they.
What if you're. What if your family put itself at grave risk to, you know, or if did suffer grave, grave right consequences by trying to get rid of slavery. Right. They were abolitionist and suffered the social consequences of that. Or they were, you know, working on some incarnation of an underground railroad. What about someone that worked on a business for ten years and work day in and day out for no pay, and never made it right?
Or sharecropper. Jesus. That's modern slavery. If someone went on to steal that person's idea that they that they groomed for ten years, I never got their payout. And hopefully you'd be able to use the legal justice system, you know? So is that it? Why not just use the justice system? Imagine that. Imagine selling the chain of money down to present day from a well documented right?
And I think that's the hard part. Imagine that. But I think that's the hard part. Oh, I, I think the records are as hard to find as well as from ft. Yeah, maybe more so, you know. No, the records from ft don't exist here. Well, yeah, that's the jokes, right? What I'm saying these might not a company that's so crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah. Let's just let's just use QuickBooks and let's approve payroll by emoji. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Morning. Let's let's approve payroll and firings and hirings by by text message buttons up. Thumbs down. Yeah. Seizure. Yeah. Just sitting there. Sitting there naked or, like, just in Teddy. Whitey's in a beanbag. Like, covered in cheese dust. Right. Looking at this screen and and hooked up to, like, a, a connect.
You know, motion capture. And so Bankman-Fried sitting there, big fucking belly covered in cheese dust. Just dumbs down or dumb dumb and then swipes to the next decision. Right. He's got his executive dashboard that basically swipe left. Swipe right. Yup yup yup them down. Yep. It's Tinder dashboard for billion dollar company decisions. Love it. Hell, we should make that.
We'd do so rich. What? That's it. And then? And then. It only works if you're bare chested and covered in dust like it does not basal recognition, but that body. Right? Like your orientation. Right? That's the biometric. It's like the sea flits and cheese dust and your chest hair. That's right. If he like cheese, dingle berries and you're just hit right.
So, so, like, if it doesn't pass that biometric, you can't activate it. Like, screen won't. Come on. Yeah. On the edges of the picture, there have to be lined up. The beanbag you're in. Yeah. Yeah. It's like yeah. It's it's all, it's all. Well it's all a requisite in order to get the thing to turn on. Right. Yeah.
It's like okay.
Bro. Bro, we confirmed it. Yep, yep.
You gotta bring your girlfriend in the shot. Yeah. She has to look like a Harry Potter drop out. Oh, dude. Okay, so about her. I'll need to go to jail, too. I don't know, it's probably. But about some of the things I read about her that she posted about herself. She was, like, talking about what kind of men she liked.
Oh, boy. The thing that stood out for me. She goes, and I really like guys who can control most world governments. Oh my God. Trying to be an allusion to be control of the world. Oh my God. Yeah, he seems like he's in a lot of control right now then. Right? Right. He's doing great. Yeah. Fuck that guy.
I'm running the world from cellblock six. Oh, and I'm denying him bail was hilarious.
I mean, that's what he made me happy. Definitely a flight risk. I mean, come on. Right. And she was saying, you know, he's got money somewhere to see all up and do, right? All of them definitely would not have embarked on this without creating their hidden golden parasites. Right. Yeah. Could you could you imagine a point where, like, cash is, like, legitimately illegal?
You imagine that money? Could you imagine this point in time where, like, cast itself becomes illegal? So, in other words, like every transaction that you do must be recorded in a ledger of some type. Right. It must be on a blockchain. Well, not necessarily just just recorded. Right. That that would be really interesting. Would be really interesting. A world that's like cash is illegal basically, that you don't have to make it that way.
You just make it so difficult and painful to to use cash. And that's the thing. We just make it. Such tends toward that. Yeah. No. Make it illegal because outright banning something bad but making dark patterns in society or a website or anything, people interact with it to make it less likely to happen or more likely to happen.
That's what you do. Right? Right, right. You create I mean, it's hell, all the social media that we interact with, all the websites we interact with, that's the most successful ones. That's what they do. Right. Exactly. This is cool. They got some neat construction happening here. Some concrete pumping. That's what. It's neat. Yeah. Look how the truck is.
Just dumping it in, and then the machine's pumping it in. That's pretty cool, man. I mean, that is one big crane and pretty cool.
So, you know, like, if you have a really small project, getting a bag or two of concrete is, you know, the way to go. Pretty cost effective. But once you reach a certain level on a project, that involves concrete, it's like a concrete mixer work. Yeah. No. Like the. Yeah. The actual truck coming and delivering the concrete is.
Yeah. Like magnitudes more energy efficient, right. And cost efficient. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of a no brainer, but some people might need to hear it. And we made a bad choice coming down the street, apparently.
Hey, why is that thing so loud? Especially compared to the concrete mixer. And mixer and pump were quite a hit. Yeah, it makes no sense that that Sunbelt cherry picker should be the loud machine. They've said it sounds like five busses. Well, it's a good test for our audio software to see if we can filter that out, you know?
Yeah. With some degree of success. Oh, I forgot. Guys, we're in the studio. This is actually just a construction track. You know, one of these days, we're really going to have to get outside for real. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. One of these days, it is a lot worse. Just abandon the whole idea because, I mean, sometimes it's, like, pretty.
That person actually impregnated a fan into the into the wall there. Look at that person. Actually, like, wow. Built the box and into the into the wall already. That what some effort. It bit pretty well. Yeah. Together got that central to make sure that the outlet as well or inlet fans was way the fans blond. Yeah.
Yeah. So anyway some kid left their book bag. Damn. Anyway, this whole studio idea. Right. It's like it is a lot of work to, like, simulate when we're walking up a hill and bring heavy and make. Yeah. So what you people don't see is we're actually passing each other little cute cards. Yeah. And they've got cues on ambient noise or reactions and this whole thing, which seems silly, eclectic and is all part of a scripted outline.
So sorry. It's, it's it's a, you know, it's like reality TV if you think it's real. Yeah. Sorry. It's a D and rambling is playing all right. That's right. People like non-sequitur, mindless, out of control, meandering nonsense. Research shows. Right. You can keep people more engaged in a podcast that you just blather on about nothing. I mean, you know, you got the shows made about nothing, like, didn't Joe Rogan prove it?
Oh, I mean, it's the most successful podcast out there. Oh, is it now? I think so, yeah, we're in the top 5%, so we're doing well. That's cool. Oh, we're in 5% now. Yeah, yeah. I mean we're over 10,000 downloads and yada yada woo. When that, when that gets per episode then we're on the something wall. But you know, I think if we do want to have that.
So like next year we're doing season two of our podcast. So, I think if we want to get into that, we might have to consider some studio for real. Yeah. Or something, you know, like some general cohesive conversation. Right. We can some kind of talk a little more fluidly. I can stop doing all the old man's searching for that word.
Searching for that term, searching for that name. Right? I mean, I just said that, Yeah, that guy hit on a lot less of that. Yeah, yeah. Remember back in, what was it, 70? I don't know, 80? No. You know, it was that young man's name journal. Oh, you mean that young boy? That was the freckles?
Don't ever. The papers. Yeah, yeah. And what was his name? He was like a kid from mad TV. I think his name was Sam. And then they said. Sam. Alfred. He knew me. Yeah. Alfred. Okay. Yeah. So it was 81. It was 81. Back to the original. Like to find the date, right? Well, let's, let's let's recall these other associative things that might help us get to the date that we also can't recall.
But then eventually, you know, you you get there, you get there. Down ten links in the chain, you get a positive hit of memory. And then they all come flopping back right there. Right. They all chain react back and, you know, get a moment of you get to find the right domino to topple you. Have you have you finally have a non senior moment in your chain of senior moments.
You know it happens. I love it. Now looking forward to it. I mean maybe like if we studio ed it and I had like 5 or 6 cups of coffee first two might be old actually have a fluid bang up conversation. I mean, I think we did really good on Monday. I think you need to get that one in.
That was a yeah, I think that was amazing. We had to start going by it. Yeah. Monday we did pretty good. Well it was my meds were kicking in. I felt like a I feel like all of our meds and coffee must have been kicking in because we had a really good and cogent conversation about AI, but we didn't rehash the same.
Well, it's red ground. We broke some new ground. All right, all right. Yeah, I know there's like, we have to, like, hire somebody to help us make a highlight reel. Yeah.
Wow.
That was like a we just recorded, like, a perfect audio clip of a bus. We're right up on that bus. That bus needed me to move out of the way to go up the road. Okay. And the look on her face was like my life didn't matter to her. Like, the look on her face was as casual as it can be.
Being that close to her.
Props to her. Props to her for putting my life in proper context. I mean, you know. Well, getting the kids to school takes priority over your existence, Mike read. It just might help. Our goal function has grown. There we go.