Judgment-Free Living, Gene Editing & Catfishing

0:00 Now I am okay. So this morning I was reading about, you know, we were talking about Crispr or gene editing tools. Yeah, yeah. There's one that, can do individual base edits and, you know, basically, a point mutation on purpose. So they use this to cure some kind of disease. Yeah. Cheered a little girl's, leukemia.

0:24 That's awesome. And, did it with, like, a three step process where ultimately, they ended up making T cells because they took from a donor that would, kill her T-cells that were killing her. It makes the gene edit. It targets very specific, disease or dysfunction and then go back and edit it again once. Once all the damage has been repaired.

0:50 Yeah. So, like you're saying, you basically, flip it a at will to cure a problem or a disease. So flip on or inject a mutation, cure a disease for somebody that has some kind of really rare thing, make this specific, change. And then once they're, they're healed from their illness for to back off, turn it like I'm so crazy.

1:13 That's crazy. Some diseases that some, I guess, low hanging fruit that we understand pretty well. So you can imagine to like this idea of the future where people, basically go have their DNA fully run and then whatever corrections need to be made, made there. You get it made. Yeah. And then how about this too is like from what I understand, when we age or telomeres start to or shrink.

1:37 Yeah. It's like cutting the end off of, up of a shoelace. So, so slowly. Just shaving the. Yeah. Leaving a bit by bit. So, so it's like, maybe graph some day later. They can kind of get your DNA from, you know, when you're young and then reinvigorate your DNA later when you're older. Oh, Jesus. Man.

1:59 Crazy. Well, it's like to reverse aging by giving yourself your own DNA back. Something they're looking at curing. Because it would be a couple of base edits. Yeah. Is, sickle cell anemia? That'd be awesome. Yeah. Be so awesome. As long as you simultaneously find some way to engineer a virus that could fully eradicate some malaria.

2:18 Right. Because it is a mutation that protects or at least reduces the likelihood of getting malaria. Yeah. So it has its own dysfunction, but it helps you survive the death. Exactly. Death from malaria. Right. The reason it survives and persistent genome is the malaria piece. Right. Yeah. Now that's fascinating. Right? Like that's fascinating. The idea of some feature where we cure a disease and then then undo the genetic changes that were naturally occurred to that.

2:47 Are good for good in the context of when the disease is prevalent, but bad. Was the disease been removed? Right, right. Maybe still somehow keep the. That's so cool. I mean, though, my, girlfriend son, his, Wrestling coach has sickle cell and. Dude, it causes him a lot of pain. Yeah. I've encountered several people in my life that have had it and, that were open about it.

3:16 And the the small handful of evidence that I've had. Is it some for some reasons, for some people, it's really, really debilitating. Yeah. For other people it's like just I have it and they kind of go mostly normal. Well, yeah. So I guess there's degrees. Apparently it doesn't cause him pain unless he engages in extreme physical activity, which he does call upon.

3:38 Okay. But I don't know if this is true or not, but from what I understand, sickle cell can have, you know, a range of debilitating effects. Right? And some people have a more minor case than others. True. Yeah. I don't know if that's true. I'm saying I, I said that's how you had a think. I have experienced the same thing where you're saying there seems to be a range of how much problem this gives me.

4:01 Sure. Yeah. It's fascinating the idea that like, not only not only like the DNA in gene, the genes, the full gene sequence of like an offspring or an embryo can be edited. But the idea that maybe someday a full adult, you know, DNA could be edited it. Right. Not just the idea that they're in in utero, but.

4:22 Yeah, as a living, breathing adult that's otherwise high functioning can have a couple of things, you know, just fix it up in the lab. Here's something weird idea that just popped in my mind. What if what if you were to, like, reactive a person's youth hormones like the phase, their prepubescent like their youthful exuberance, energy and all that.

4:44 Like, like reactivate that phase in someone's life. So, like, they grow a new set of teeth. Oh, shit. Like, you know, it's weird, like, you know, I'm sure you'd have all sorts of weird effects on, like, adults start doing weird stuff, like, just randomly jumping on the couch and playing with things. Well, it just triggers all this, like, rampant acne.

5:03 Yeah. There's nothing like this fire in their belly of, like, they have to get up and move because of their their youthful energy is so, so kicking. You know, adults joke about all the time. I wish I had that kind of energy, right. Oh, they see solids, right? It was like now they do. Oh yeah. And that's trying to play out in like social normalizing you know, don't life.

5:22 Yeah. That would be tough. It could be pretty good comedy sketch I guess. So they've done that. They've done that. We're like the adult in the child stage places. Right. Like their IQ Friday type thing. Yeah. Their minds, their mind swap, you know, spying us from behind a tree. A little cat. How are you? You see, it's so funny.

5:45 Cats. Oh, I was just thinking this morning, too, on the way over here, because the person, I drove this car over, so, her radio station or mine's always on NPR. Hers is on, like, I don't know, I don't know, I forgot what it was 107.9 or something. And the the the deejays weren't really that funny, but,

6:05 Yeah, that used to be Bob cherry back in the day. It still is. Yeah. The numbers. I like Brahmachari. It's like they're funny, but like, I don't know, but, rather not. Let's do it. But they're not so funny as well. Yeah. It's weird. Like, they're. If you're in the mood to embrace your middle aged man. Yeah.

6:26 So I define it, and and I notice that, like, I don't listen too often, but I, would periodically it would turn on, like some time. I flip it on and hear them over the years, and I and I noticed something really strange is that Bob started to have a speaking cadence and more of like that, more of the personality of Sharon.

6:44 Oh, that makes sense. I mean, it's been a huge it's unreal. Yeah. But her personality so strong, it's like it's it's it's subsumed. Yeah. His assumed his, yeah. His speaking mannerisms and his, cartoons and his just found another word. I can't say I like that. That's a good word. So that is. Yeah. So. So, I think Sherry's personality overall was the dominant.

7:06 Yeah. Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah. She swallowed his like an amoeba and. Yeah. No, I've never danced one for me because I'm never going to like. And I don't need to, but I don't even know what she looks like. I've never seen a picture of her, so. But I have a picture in my mind is on the voice, and I would find it.

7:20 And I'm fine with that. What is the description? All right. Serious? Like me. I'll give you a grade. It's how close you are. Okay. I'm picturing like, 30 pounds heavy, but still not that. Oh, like, you know, just a little bit. Not not not not very pretty either. Yeah. Kind of redhead, maybe, shoulder length hair.

7:43 Not normal face, as far as, like, you know, not chiseled, not round like, happen in between. Just that that's it with was really white teeth. For some reason, that's not the only thing. Okay. How cold might, from what I remember, probably wear longer hair than what you say. Okay. So long hair. All right. Well, it's shoulder length.

8:04 Yeah, it's what I said. So I wasn't thinking like a, kick some. Yeah, yeah. Someone around right here. Okay. So not too far off there. Yeah. And then, you know, redhead, Brunet. But. Okay. Brunet. Dark. Okay. Yeah. And then, high cheekbones. Okay. But still the other side, the overweight Middle East. Look. Oh, yeah. Okay.

8:27 Okay. Yeah. I mean tall. Yes. Right. Yeah. But I probably describe like, 90% of all women anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So not really didn't take any credit when I. Yeah. But okay. Yeah. Now now if I do see a picture it's not spoiled. Yeah. But it's cool. Like they kind of imagine a person's from their voice or from their, you know, some, some type of.

8:50 We're not seeing a direct image of them. Oh, yeah. So if there was a phone to life, but I mean, I can, I can open up for some pretty hardcore catfishing. It's true. If you might not want to really let yourself fall in love until you see the picture here. Yeah, that's a good point because, you know, there would be a point of no return like you've you've gotten to the point where you're fully emotionally invested in where she's like some type of burn victim or something, you know, she was that, that.

9:17 But, the catfish show on up. She. I may have seen an episode once. Yeah, I might have seen episode once. I definitely get the premise. I've unfortunately watched their Herculean amount of them. Okay. But, I mean, you know, was in really into it, I see. I never really had to watch it. I didn't think because I figured it was kind of a recurring theme.

9:38 It is a recurring theme, but there's so much variation in there. Okay. You know, all the parts together, the you, me, the human element and the drama element. They figure out so many different ways to trap people and the do thing, I don't know, but usually everyone is so incredibly invested. You're really not sure if they're going to not buy in?

10:01 Yeah. So there's some time, I'm sure, on the show where they accept and sometimes they do no matter what, what happens way more than I thought would happen. Wow, wow. Interesting. You know, so I guess if you're hungry enough and you do pull up a catfish from the bottom. Yeah, find a way to prepare it. Yeah. It's like, well, it tastes like mud, but I got what I wanted.

10:22 It's greasy and disgusting, and it probably caused me more, loss of body from defecation than than I've gained in calories by eating it. But, hey, I'm still really hungry right now. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Give me a cup of seawater while you're at. I was looking for a meal. There. We got it. Wash it down with some brackish seawater.

10:39 No, no. Yeah, yeah, some, barrel crackers while I'm at it. Yeah, yeah. Crumble them on the side. Sounds. That sounds thrilling. Discussing that there. There are these meals, you know, that that are like, reverse, calorie meals. So there's, like, certain meals that you can eat that have what it takes your body more energy to process the food or celery like that.

11:02 What other foods? I think there's like some cabbage stews that you can make, like some. Yeah. I think there's some, like crockpot, meals that you can make, like red cabbage. A certain red cabbage stew, a very low calorie broth. Oh, I think it's like an actual negative calorie foods. There's there's a list. You go to the internet and search up, like negative calorie foods, and, like a glass of water is like that, right?

11:26 Yeah. So, you know, you drink glass water and, Yeah, your body has to, your body has to, like, come up with the calories for the water. So, like, he drinks cold water. Or even hot water. Your body has to. What is it about bringing it back to a temperature body can handle. Yeah. And it's zero true difference.

11:46 Right. Right. It's zero calorie to begin with. And you have a metabolic process to process the water. So like a glass of water it's like reducing homeostasis after you ingest the cold or hot water. Yeah. Oh. So, no. Okay. Yeah. And from what I understand, hot water will make you lose way faster than cold interest. You think the opposite?

12:05 Like, your body would have to raise the calorie of the, cold water. Yeah, but, what's interesting is that food calories are actual killer calories. So, I don't know. I don't want to be like a professor this morning. All right? It's not like or, but, a food calorie is actually a killer calorie, so it's a thousand calories of action.

12:25 Given a calorie is defined as, the amount of energy it takes to raise one gram of water, one degree Celsius. It's a calorie. Yeah. So, one food calorie, you know, the calorie listed on a package of food in the, nutrition information. One food calorie is actually a thousand. Yeah, calories. So let's say it's a killer calorie.

12:49 Okay, so a lot of foods that we eat are just crazy packed with energy. You know, it makes sense. The entered the the, the biological energy potential of the food is very high. I often, you know, I mean, you know, and so again woo so you think, well because because then on onset, you know, you look at the back of the package says, oh, this, this thing things 800 calories, right.

13:13 Then you're like, oh 800 calories in terms of, well, not really all zero or a couple of zeros. Yeah, three more zeros anywhere else. Yeah. So it's actually really, really energy packed. But the reason they they do kill calories and not calories on the packaging is because the numbers would be so big, people wouldn't be able make sense of that.

13:32 Yeah that makes sense. Like, Federal Reserve spending reports. Yeah. Balance sheet reports. Right. Yeah. Like the numbers look like they're in the thousands. But then you have to add a billion to it, right? You just have to scale it. Yeah. So there's a certain implied scale to food packaging and a certain implied scale to budget reports. Right, right.

13:54 I certain levels. Yeah. Yeah. When you're dealing at the levels of government debt, you know, then, then then then your numbers are the, the head of the of billion. Right, right, right. So like the whatever the number 50 billion. Yeah. So, so 1250 billion 1050 on their balance is 1.25 trillion. Yeah. You know, because of the scale, right.

14:20 So really at the end of the day when you're just dealing with numbers and you just have scalars, at that point you can abstract the whole thing like who cares? It's a, it's a, it's an abyss. I mean, when we're drilling, we're dealing with trillions. I mean, it's like no person's mind really is is around that. Yeah. You can't attenuate yourself to that really.

14:46 You know, so that's, talking about a SBF guy, you know, writes himself $1 billion loan for the government. Right? So it's like, that's a that's a thousand million. Like I have a general sense of a million, right. So but now I have to like, reconcile, think about a thousand million a bright right. And you know, and here we write a check.

15:08 What. I just don't get it. And then, hey, you know, they arrested him the day before he was supposed to testify to Congress and, you know, spill the beans, so to speak. But, apparently. Well, because all sorts of governments want a piece of his ass. Right? So if they if they stopped him before he testified, he could potentially use that platform as another grift, just like Trump would do.

15:33 Exactly. Which is why they shut him down, right? Yeah. He could he could go in there and have a lie and a whole bunch of things beforehand that are going to that he knows are going to change based on his testimony. Right. And then they change after the testimony and then he cashes in. And but everybody from Turkey to the Bahamas, the U.S, the UK wants his ass back.

15:57 So there's this like stupid saying but it is fun. It's funny. And they talk about someone living rent free to someone else's head. Oh yeah I love that. That is a it's a nice little it's kind of funny phrase, but the, you know, conservative Republicans for a long time have been saying, you know, Trump is living rent free.

16:14 And all the them said, yeah, the Dems heads are running rather than the Dems. I think the Dems, the Dems, not the Dems, the Dems, the motherfucking dimwits. And that's what's so nice about not having a dog in the fight. You can kind of laugh at both things. So I wish I didn't have a dog in a fight.

16:33 I'm thoroughly, thoroughly with every fiber of my being. Every piece of my soul is against Trump. Okay, okay. So so more or less you're debate. Oh yeah. Well, you know, in the Denver. Denver, where are you there. I mean, I'd be a lib tard if I was retarded about those thing. I'm I, I am definitely retarded about some things, but not necessarily liberalism.

17:03 I just absolutely can't stand Trump and his ilk. Gotcha. So the thing I dropped just the other day, the big announcement was the NFT, the Trump NFT. Yes, I know you saw that already, right? Yeah. Like, oh my God, that's so funny. And you know, like from what I understand, Steve Bannon is like saying cringing about it. It's the and the former General Flynn was is like even cringing about it really.

17:29 Flynn Flynn was using the hell out of him as a platform to just make stupid money. Yeah. So like, they're all in on this grift, right? Yeah. And, I thought Steve Bannon was like, what I did, I thought for fraud related to, build the Wall. Yeah, this is still catching on a podcast or something. And, like, I don't even understand how that works, but.

17:49 Wow. You think that, like, you defraud people out of millions and and get, you know, convicted of it, found guilty, indicted and then convicted of it. You think that like, you don't just go on and living a normal life like I don't understand, okay. Case in point, Jordan Belfort, the wolf of Wall Street, right? That guy's still running around giving interviews.

18:10 I read an interview the other day. It fit. He was talking about SBF. Yeah. Isn't that great? I love it. Isn't it great? It's like Michael Cohen talking about how how what a scumbag Donald Trump is. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Every time I see a video of him on TikTok, I slide like I'm not listening to that guy.

18:30 I listen to it. Oh, do you guy? If I see him on the news, I slip. No way. No, listen, it just makes me grin. It's just like it's hilarious. But he's just playing now. The other side. He's cashing in on all the different channels that he can. He gets money every time he appears on the news, right?

18:46 As a guest speaker or subject matter expert. Wherever. But I have. And now he's like some kind of weird quasi hero of the left. Yeah, he is like, what? The people. So great. It's so great because I see I feel like that's the smarter way to go than what? What an inventor doing. Right? Because it's totally a smart thing to have jumped off the Trump train at this point.

19:07 Well, I'm saying to have jumped out the Trump train when he did. He's probably made way more money than if he stayed on it. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And in fact, like he wasn't a household name until he got busted. Right. Then it gets but then he makes a show. Yeah, absolutely. Just I mean, publicly decrying and denigrating Trump and saying the man ruined my life.

19:33 My family's life totally arrested me when I was in a restaurant ruined by white. Oh, wait. Wink. Now all this free publicity. Now I'm a household name and I make millions a year. Hey, you drum! Wow. It's just. It's just a giveaway to this class of people, I swear. It's like it's just a giveaway. Like the the way, the only way that it's ever going to change.

19:58 If the public just turns their back and says, we don't care at all anymore, the thing, we just shut up. I don't care about anything have to say. I feel like if we did that, we'd have to consider doing the same things as the Kardashians and Hiltons. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Let's do it. Yeah, let's do it.

20:14 Let's stop listening. Yeah. You know, let's stop making people famous for being famous, right? I mean, my goodness, let's start. Well, let's let's let children know the names of Nobel Peace Prize recipients. And, you know, I have to give it to Willow School. She's in second grade. And, dude, she comes home all the time talking to me about scientists.

20:39 Do you know this person? Do you know that person? Oh. That's awesome. And we talk about them really cool. One of her favorites is Katherine Johnson from the movie Hidden Figures that worked with NASA and did a lot of the math behind, some of the first space missions. Nice. All right. And, you know, they could really back then she's really behind.

21:01 It is played though. The lady was black and, you know, she, she I don't know, she's really into experiments and playing with things and seeing what happens, you know. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's cool. And, give her one of those home chemistry sets. Well, we got, like, the Hulk that there's, like, all the chemistry magic. So we've got a couple of books that we take things from around the house, and we do experiments with them.

21:28 You know. Well, the Anarchist Cookbook, and that's like, what are you doing? You know, the weights in pneumonia. Watch this. They're flavored. They're flavored like potions. You make them, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's like you make, invisible ink out of lemon juice, right? Yes. Or you make, they called it, it was this bleeding werewolf potion, and it just involved, you know, lemon juice.

21:55 Yeah. Oh, dude. And, it would. And baking soda and some food coloring and see that? Yeah. You know, you have, like, these red boxes, you know, like this, the the distributed blockbuster's. Yeah. Yeah. Where you actually get the DVD, like, you can go to red box and get surtitles that are on Netflix. I haven't done it for many a year, but yes.

22:14 Well, you still see a lot of people lined up at the thing. Yeah. Because it's it's a good idea. She waved us on because of course she has the authority. Well, I mean, I love it a lot at this point, if I would, I do want to make sure before I cross in front of it, multi thousand pound machine.

22:31 Yeah. They're going to let me cross. Yeah. It's. Yeah I love it though. We talked about that. It's just the psychology. It's just brilliant. Yeah I mean it's it's like the crosswalk is the right of way of the pedestrian. Everybody that's involved the exchange knows the tradition has the right of way. And it's their legal obligation to stop at the damn thing.

22:48 So they stop at everything. It's not the way it's supposed to do. They stop yet they still find it necessary to waive you on. You know what's probably going to change that? Okay. Well, nation. Yes. Because right now we have to be in agreement that both humans exactly are going to honor the social contract. Right. And but at the end of the day, the person with the dangerous technology still has some authority.

23:11 Well, they do, of course, because they hit the fucking dangerous right. There was that machine. Yeah. And but what I'm saying is, maybe after a generation of, you know, self-driving cars, they're just going to stand there and stared blankly at us instead of waiting. Son, you know, a good 20, 30 years is their smartphone. While they're right, like, oh, it's a time to look at my smartphone.

23:33 Yeah. Which is every 100% of the time. Right? Right. Sorry. So the the, the the whole feature of driving car, of course, is like nobody paying attention at all anymore. Oh, dear. I'm taking a nap in that motherfucker. Yeah, that's where I mean, that is the end result for sure. Like fully not just doing your own thing. My car is right, right.

23:53 I'm taking a nap. I'm like, girl, my eyebrows, whatever the hell these happened. Sure. Don't do it like that. Insurance commercial where that person's in pizza, putting on makeup handle and coffee, messing with the radio. What? Testing the cell phone all to and smoking a cigaret. Everything. It's all happening. This is my multitasking me time. Oh, God.

24:14 It's all hilarious. Commercials. Like. Yeah. Multitasking. Distracted driving. Yeah. You're talking about distracted driving. And, like, the cars in the simulation, and it's going. It's bouncing up and down. It's like moving is jostling the first trying to put on makeup. And there's a person with the pole with a piece of piss on it, pushing it in their face.

24:32 All this distraction, get that's, I love it, man. It's a it was an interesting shift where, you know, commercials, converted to, like, just make someone smile or laugh. And you don't even really need to, in this case, to connect to the product. But if as long as it's funny, it doesn't even have to connect to the product directly.

24:54 Like you don't have to advertise anything about the functionality or whatever the product you just name. People laugh, right? There's like commercials now that just just are humorous and that's it. Like some Geico commercials. Well or some, some any, you know, like, a couple of years ago, the Doritos commercial on, the, Super Bowl. Yeah. And the Doritos, like, still, some of their commercials still integrate the whole idea of, like, the person is clamoring for the Doritos, right?

25:23 Like, yeah, like a, strange casein addiction, level clamoring for the Doritos. Yeah. Addicted to the milk proteins. Yeah, I, I, I read it at some point that there's a the addictive quality of the casein, the protein found in milk proteins, there's some kind of, possibly addicting element in the brain that anything that ends in an in, like, that sound.

25:48 Nicotine, morphine, heroin. Right. It implies it binds to a receptor. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's like that. I feel like I'm doing that. Whatever. Kabbalah, song. Football. Yeah. It's you, babe. Nicotine. Charlie. Morphine. So you that song. You heard that? Yeah, I don't remember first name. Carrot. Carrot, I don't know, it doesn't mean, the milk bear chameleon.

26:18 Yeah, yeah. That's it. How do you say listen to Miller? A bagel Kabbalah. All right, all right. Yeah. That so, like asthma in sound, right? Is, is a is a ketone, certain chemical, receptor part. Right. That's. Yep. That's. And so that's why like hazard advisories, Pfizer serves so like dopamine heroin opioids. Right. You have morphine.

26:42 All these have the same in kind of yeah. Yeah. Chemistry that binds to particular types. So that in the same kind of family like the opiate family, you know type of thing. But there's actually like why nicotine is so addictive and why morphine and, you know, dopamine, all these things are so, powerful mental chemicals. Right. They have receptors for them.

27:04 Yep. Prior neuroscience science is out there. One of our listeners cringing right now, I don't know, like they suck that up so hard. Yeah. And what the fuck was like I tried to sing. Yeah. It's like he could have said it so much better if he had read my, science book or to buy online course. Read the first, sentence of my,

27:26 Yeah. My my paper. Yeah. What? It sounded better than all that. I'm telling you, they he probably got an online course. He's going to talk as soon as we put up the forum when, like, we're getting we're getting a neuroscientist with an online course. Yeah. And so we female from the Midwest brought because, I mean, let's just say, I mean, if she's good looking and smart, it's going to sell.

27:55 I say, yes, yeah. That's there is there is something just naturally about the idea of someone good looking and smart. Yeah, yeah. That's, I introduced Megan the other day to the the idea of a, of the whole idea of a, you sexual. Yeah. Yeah. It's she was like, why? I didn't know.

28:17 Not thinking, you know, being smart, thinking about thinking, being sexy, thinking about, you know, like, I mean, I got to be honest, summer, having five degrees was attractive to me. There you go. So there's something about, For some people, the intellect is the most sexiest trait, right? Well, like, yeah, for some people, that's sexually arousing, like, intelligence is sexually aroused.

28:41 I think it's a component for me, but it's not a chief one. But it's like, man, yeah, that's on the list. If I can, pick the ideal set of traits, we definitely need somebody who can think your way out of a paper bag. So there's this. There's this really interesting paradox is like, maybe the infatuation with the intelligence could then cause other your other senses to just, like, change.

29:10 Like, that's how shallow. How like you're not even seeing. Well that's it was it that I wasn't seeing. But then their impact was lessens because she was so smart, so sarcastic, so hilarious. All of those things that are related with that, I would think would be related to the sapiens actual thing. All of those traits that arise from your mind are that I was willing to accept the compromise on mother's face and everyone I've ever met.

29:38 I think I've only met one person, one female, that I felt less attractive because of their. Whether they think, yeah, and so I don't know, I don't think I'm a super sexual. There's only one I think I can recall. I think that's true. Said to be a sexual is very rare. But I would say for a lot of us, it probably is the components that we admire.

30:00 Yeah. Okay. So like you're either in the mix or proportionally save your sexual. Yeah. I would say it was be a rare thing for someone to be chiefly CPO. So I mean, when you. Yeah, I would say so. So I was asked recently by a person, is there a reason to name them specifically? But I was asked specifically about this person I was having a business meeting with talking about advertising, and she had asked me, her or her partner that she was with, give me the sales pitch.

30:29 Went to the bathroom. Right. And it was the conversation was was done about the advertising thing. We had moved on to, just general conversation. Okay. And, we were talking about all kinds of range of stuff. And the guy went to the bathroom. She asked me specifically about sexuality. All right. Okay. Like my thoughts on, you know, so what about all else that's happening right now with sexuality, blah, blah, like, you know, in, in, in society.

30:57 And I said, the problem is that. So it's not whether you want a hand job under the table, but it's like, no, no, no, it wasn't like, no, no, I wasn't even going for that. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Although now in retrospect, maybe I could have got no no children played with. Oh, no, I don't think I was, I don't think it was truly an option, but, I'm, I'm wondering why, like, I don't know.

31:26 I'm just thinking, like, in retrospect, how come I wasn't even thinking about, like what? What happened to my man had an idea. Like, I'm supposed to be a dog. I'm supposed to have supposed to have thoughts. Right? I think that's I think that's supposed to thing. It's kind of dumb when they go about sex seven times every second.

31:42 And some like, you know, like, I don't think that's true. Yeah. So who's the thought police that did that study? Yeah. Right. And if I thought about sex that much I'd be I would be disappointed. Absolutely I did I did George attend I, I actually, you know, do you have to confess I don't think about sex much at all.

32:02 I don't either. Yeah. Something wrong with the I don't know, no, no, you're wrong. Getting old or something. Now, there's nothing wrong with it. You just got other things stuck by your brain. Yeah. I'm thinking back to, like, even when I was a kid, I didn't think about it. Unless there was a reason to, though.

32:22 Oh, you know, like, unless there was a little seed crystal planted for some reason or another. Yeah. It's weird. Anyway, so I'm, like, thinking about a thousand things right now, but then I'll go back to what I'm saying. So she would ask me about. And so I tried to give like this, you know, we've explored a lot of ideas about you and I in our conversation.

32:41 That fact was people about this topic. And so I was able to what I thought give a pretty decent synthesis of my belief on. Right. So I said to her, oh, look, society has all these different labels and identities and concepts and, social groups all spun up around all this idea of human sexuality. And there's science that talks about human sexuality and the sociological studies, and there's cultural overlays, all these things.

33:04 And then there's the person's individual preferences. There's the person's individual tastes and choices through their experience or data of their subjective reality. Right. Yeah. So at the end of the day, every single person's sexuality is 100% unique. Fingerprint to them. Right. And so there's no reason to worry about any kind of labels where anybody any kind of pejorative really.

33:24 Right. I think we need that safe space. The idea that, you know, hey, societally, we just need to say people can do whatever the hell they want, and it's just fine sexually, as long as it doesn't harm another person or their choice. I just and I went on to say, I agree, you said it, I agree. And I went to say in the same thought, is that what we should be doing is kind of having a knee jerk reaction, have, have keep at arm's length these labels.

33:51 Yeah. Because I mean, for the most part they're limiting and they're in many cases pejorative. There we go. Yeah. Because we don't need negative kind of any more negative connotations put around this. And they're just latent. They're are lightened. Once you know that we really can't get rid of things. So our Puritan heritage, right. Yeah. Exactly. That's the cultural overlay.

34:14 So human beings are naturally promiscuous. It's good thing because it's nice to have population continuation. Right. And and, each person's mourning, each person's unique desires and, and, things that they find erotic is, is 100% tailored, unique to each person. Absolutely. There could be some commonalities amongst people, but in general, everyone has a unique yes flavor. Everybody's got their own kink, their own fingerprint.

34:39 Yeah. Well, fingerprint is something fingerprint that's ugly. But, you know, it's a nicer way to say it, but I think that's the truth. I think that's the true. And shoes like a little bit taken like a she's like wow. Like I've never heard of that before. Right. And then she says, thank you nice guy. Come pick. Oh that's cool.

35:01 And so she needed to hear that for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. And and I and that might be something at ease for her. It really felt like it did. Yeah. And, yeah, it was just this really weird moment. But at the same time, it was like. It seemed like it did give, give her some type of.

35:17 Yeah, some kind of relief or almost like vindication. Justification. That's good, that's good. Yeah. And I didn't set out for that. I just set out to tell what I thought was the answer. Right. But you freed her from something. It did. Something that resonated with her for some reason. Yeah, yeah. And that's her business, right? That's great. I'm just so happy.

35:35 Yeah. That was able to be done. Very cool. That's another, liberation in life is, is learning how to be mostly judgmental, free, judgment free. Yeah. Right. So like, well, you open up opportunity. These interactions you wouldn't had if you were not. So if you didn't project. Exactly. That's perfectly stated. Exactly. Right. That's exactly what I was saying.

35:57 And, the opposite of that is true too. Right. So you're curtailing options and possibilities by, you know, being judgmental and right. Not just not just always giving endless benefit of the doubt. Yeah. Right. Right. It's so easy to kind of cross your arms and snarl at the world right through judgmentally and, you know, kind of kind of take yourself back for no reason or limit those young kids to get after your.

36:23 Well, yeah. She can't even. Scott, I can't wait, can't wait for what's inevitably coming right? I mean, it's not fair. No other blogger. Yeah, that's what I was. Oh, my God, I'm all. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's my normal boy. What do you mean? It's. It sounded like an even more crotchety version of Robert servers. Oh, God. Oh, boy.

36:55 How you doing? Oh. We're cool. One morning, we're doing.

37:00 Yeah. So I was also thinking, oh, the whole reason I brought the radio people. Yeah. This is how we meander back. You know, if we had really expensive editing, we can, like, splice our conversations into actually discrete packages where we're where everything would sound cohesive, well thought out and plan. Yeah. We suddenly, like, stop talking and start talking again.

37:20 But, you know, but at least the ideas are in packages, right? So the radio, people is they're talking about, cats and dogs like their preferences. Like so what's, what's a, what's a deal breaker if you're meeting somebody like, what's a deal breaker? And one of the deejays said like cat, if they have a cat okay. All right, all right.

37:40 And they said, well, are you allergic to cats? And she was like, mentally. Yeah. Mentally. I it's like, oh God. Well, funny but not funny. Yeah. Right. And it reminded me of something that I've thought in the past and that like, if you don't like kids and if you don't like dogs, if you don't like animals in general, like living things that have a motion, you might be something off with, you probably think about that.

38:07 You're probably broken and, you know, need some time alone. Think by yourself. Something might not be quite right now. It is. It's possible that. Just sheer preference. Now you don't like. So you know. All right. Okay. Let's let's give that. But but in general but in general. But in general if you're misanthropic and hate people and then you're against cute cuddly animals as well.

38:31 Yeah. It's like we can pick one of those. Yeah. It's not even cute and cuddly. It's just living things with emotion you know. There we go. There you go. If you might possibly connect. Yeah they can they can make your heart. They can make eye contact wearing eye popping. This a. You know a thing. Some some creature with an emotional intelligence about it.

38:54 Right in with you in the eye. Right. Is like this. There's this there, there's there's just a living connection here. Yeah, that. It's like, now I understand. Like, there's there's things that could be like to the point where it past you can have a rat infestation and you have to just put out rat traps or find some way.

39:10 I know that hard. Got it. But that's what I've been going through for the last couple of months. Yeah, in certain circumstances, you can't just have a heart, everything, you know, and. Yeah, but that's kind of what I was just finding my roommate. He was like, just spray this mint concoction, it'll get rid of the rat. So I was like, okay, I need you to understand it's not going to get rid of the rats.

39:30 The rats are just fucking with this. No, a mint area. Yeah. Oh, it's like they are going to continue to have a party with the squirrel and the mice. They're in my room. They don't give a fuck that. It's not a vacuum. In fact, it's the opposite. They become really saturated. Like they love mint. Like they're like, man, this is the place to be.

39:49 It's warm, comfortable. I've had a thousand babies in this location and I just love mint. Now, why don't Ryan Reynolds sell me phone? I'm ready to go. Oh, my holy hell. Yes. Oh, that looks good. So. So it's, you know, really interesting psychological, like, you know, these, people that in politics, they do like all this word.

40:13 They, they take different words and they have a focus audience, and they ask them to gauge their reaction. And they have a little dial, like the dial like plus and minus. Oh, I do want to say I did try the mint and proved it. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Yeah. Fair enough firm though. They have these focus groups where they try political speech out on people or different words, you know, like, so, you know, Republican think tank, they get together and they have a bunch of people, general public people come together from their voting base now, and they have.

40:41 So they say words are sort phrases. And then the people in the audience, as part of the study, will literally take a dial. Okay. That's like spring loaded to zero, and then positive and negative. Wow. How much that that resonated with them from a positive or negative. And they can also strap them with heart monitors and get get their polls and the respiration rates and all that shit and see how emotional it plays out.

41:06 These words play out with that. Okay? And then use these words and these phrases in certain ways to frame a political speech, to invoke certain ideas and emotions and spirit. And, you know, feelings out of people, which will then hopefully never bring them to the polls and vote for their people. Sorry, I got it. It's no, it's fine.

41:24 So, you know, there's this like that's bringing it down to the science of manipulation. All right. So it is, it is and it seems on face value scummy. It does. You know. But but but in a zero sum game you can see how it would be, use it or at least a game that you want to capture.

41:41 Zero sound. Yeah. And so the just the awareness of how we frame language and everyday use and then also towards particular subjects, it's really telling about kind of the truth of something. So like if we refer to squirrels and mice as rodents. Right. Because they're in the rodent family. Right? It's rodent. Yeah. Yes. What we're doing is where that that word is loaded and has a pejorative, meaning to it that says those living creatures are detrimental.

42:15 They're they're just vermin, right? Supreme. They're all right. Exactly. You think it's. I think they're just vermin. That that, you know, that it's okay to just exterminate, eliminate because they're undesirable. I was joking about Vermin Supreme. Whatever. Had, dead rats in there. You should have seen. It's you rats that I that died in my room that I had to remove.

42:38 They were. There was definitely the Rat King in there. I swear. They're big boys. Vermin supreme. Was anyone else? Wow. Something about a really fat rat. That just makes it more disgusting. Oh, dude. Oh. So gross. Yeah. So, like, you know, some people, they don't even see rodents or any kind of vermin as any kind of, they sort of way at all, in fact.

42:59 I mean, when they start feeding on your stuff and shredding it, maybe you would. Yeah, that'll happen. Or they'll have bedbugs. And if they can't get rid of them, they're natural. They can't kill it. Let's put the mattress outside and like, oh, we still have it in your house, in your clothes. It's cool. Yeah. I had a, I had a, associate that was, person in Nova Scotia who I got to know and was a really cool dude.

43:21 And, but this was his mentality to extreme pessimism. Yeah. And I don't usually do this, but I kind of like, I really strongarm the conversation. I was like, I would have I very rarely, like, am adamant and telling somebody something, but in this case, I was it's like, man, you're wrong. And it's detrimental to yes, yes, yes.

43:43 And you know, we don't associate really much anymore. And yeah. So I don't think you like that, but I'm sorry I couldn't help myself because it was wrong. It's disgusting. It's like, that's toxic. Yeah. Yes. In fact, like, maybe you shouldn't be around my kids. Yeah, yeah. You're you're spreading pestilence at that point and that's it. You know, you're allowing yourself to be the foul and spread something that's communicable.

44:08 Yeah. I mean, so there's a there's a utility in doing this, sort of like, you know, rodents here. There is a certain utility. Well, there's a certain societal benefit where individual. Right. For sure. So the thing is, I think in certain cases there's a, there's a usefulness or utility in this pejorative language. It's a shortcut. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's a shortcut.

44:27 It's it's also and I look at, you know, certain strictures in the Bible as being the same thing, like the list of unclean animals. All right. All of those things, if you cook them wrong, storm wrong, you can get really sick. Sure. And so it was when you don't have temperature thermometers for cooking and. Yeah. Or you know, so the whole story just why make a lot of people sick.

44:51 Yeah. So yeah let's go ahead and make that listen so you guys can eat this guy totally makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. It's a societal shortcut. Yeah. So could you make that same argument for racism? Now, I don't know. You all have to convince me on that one. See, I see how I necessarily tied in Bible scriptures to an instant majority by looking into racism.

45:15 Incoming. Okay, now, the thing I think the thing is with, with racism, I mean, all right, with any quick category that we put someone in, it falls into the same thing. And these quick categories can still be rolled up. And these societal shortcuts aren't necessarily right. But racism would fall under a societal shortcut. So it's a quick yeah, yeah, you're making a case for racism.

45:39 Oh I'm saying it's a societal shortcut that's wrong. Oh it's wrong okay. But in my view, list of the bad foods is narrow. And I am saying I don't like any of those restrictions. Guys like, I don't I don't abide by the Jewish list of unclean foods. I think all of those dudes are amazing and delicious in the modern world where I can.

46:01 And you're clearly wearing fabrics of mixed materials. Yes. And I'm going to, because material science is bad ass. You should be stoned to death, sir. Material science is great. The modern world has brought these things together to create a jacket that is lightweight. It keeps me warm, you know, huge mental circumstances. Yeah. So these shortcuts. I think what some people do is they cherry pick them to, act in their, in their, diabolical way right here we go.

46:25 So use it as justification or use these shortcuts or use them as hot buttons to go ahead and up there, you know, they use them as hot buttons in their populist speech. To go back to what you were saying about what gets people riled up. Yeah. So they're talking about reparations in California. You hear that one? No.

46:44 Like legit thinking about, doing some reparations over there and, making cutting checks. That doesn't upset me. Well, it doesn't I said I wouldn't get reparations, but. Yeah, well, that's the thing is, they. What if you're. What if your, family put itself at grave risk to, you know, or did suffer grave, grave, right consequences by trying to get rid of slavery.

47:10 Right. They were abolitionist and suffered the social consequences of that. Or they were, you know, working on some incarnation of an underground railroad. What about someone that worked on a business for ten years and work day in and day out for no pay? It never made it right. Or sharecropper? Jesus. Or slavery? Someone went on to steal that person's idea that they.

47:34 That they groomed for ten years and never got their payout. And hopefully you'd be able to use the legal justice system, you know? So is that it? Why not just use the justice system? Imagine that. Imagine selling the chain of money down to the present day from a well documented right? I think that's the hard part. I imagine that, but I think that's the hard part.

47:58 Oh, I, I think the records are hard to find as well as from FDX. Yeah, maybe more so, you know. No, the records from FDX don't exist here. Well yeah, that's the jokes, right. But I'm saying these claims might ruin our company. That's so crazy, isn't it? Yeah. You know, it's just this is use QuickBooks and let's approve payroll by emoji.

48:22 Yeah yeah yeah, yeah. You know what I what's it. Let's approve payroll and firings and hirings by by text message ones up. Thumbs down. Yeah. Seizure. Yeah. Just sitting there. Sitting there naked or, like, just in tidy whities in a bean bag, like, covered in cheese dust. All right, looking at this screen and it's hooked up to, like, a, a connect.

48:49 You know, motion capture. And so take me for a freight sitting there, big fucking belly covered in cheese dust. Just thumbs down or thumbs down and then switch to the next decision. Right. He's got his executive dashboard that basically swipe left, swipe right up. You know, the up and down. Yep. It's Tinder dashboard for billion dollar company decisions.

49:13 Love it. How we should make it. Who did this so rich. What. As in and then and then it only works if you're bare chested and covered in desk, like. Right. Who does not facial recognition, but as a body. Right. Like your orientation. Right. That's the biometric. It's gotta see flecks of cheese dust in your chest hair.

49:38 That's right. If, like cheese, dingle berries and you're just say, all right, so, so, like, if it doesn't pass that biometric, you get activated like it's screen won't come on. Yeah. Yeah. On the edges of the picture, there have to be lined up. The bean bag you're in. Yeah, yeah. It's like. Yeah, it's all, it's all,

49:58 Well, it's all a requisite in order to get the thing to turn on. Right. Yeah. It's so I can't eat your beer of latter day crypto, bro. Bro. We confirmed it. Yep. Yeah. You got to bring your girlfriend to the shot, Yeah. She has to look like a Harry Potter driver. Oh, dude. Okay, so about her, are you gonna go to jail, too?

50:21 I don't know, probably, but about some of the things I read about her that she posted about herself. She was, like, talking about what kind of men she liked. Oh, boy. The thing that stood out for me, she goes, and, I really like guys who can, control most world governments. Oh, my God, trying to be an illusion to control the world.

50:41 Oh, my God. Yeah. He seems like he's in a lot of control right now though, right? All right. He's doing great. Yeah. Fuck that. Got, I'm, running the world from cellblock six. And I'm denying him bail is hilarious. Yeah. I mean, yes, well, he made me definitely a flight risk. I mean, come on. Right. And Sue was saying, you know, he's got money somewhere or not so nasty.

51:09 All right? All of them definitely would not have embarked on this without printing their hidden golden parachutes, right? Yeah. Could you do did you guys have a point where, like, cash is, like, legitimately legal? You imagine that money? Could you imagine this point in time? Or, like, cash itself becomes illegal. So in other words, like every transaction that you do must be recorded in a ledger or something, right?

51:36 It must be on a blockchain. Well, not this is just just recorded right. That oh, that would be really interesting. It would be really interesting. A world that's like cash is illegal, basically. You don't have to make it that way. You just make it so difficult and painful to to use cash. And that's the thing. We just make it so society tends court that listener, you know, make it illegal.

52:01 Yes. Outright banning something that. But making dark patterns in society or a website or anything people interact with it, to make it less likely to happen or more likely to happen. That right you do. Right? Right? Right. You create I mean, it's hell, all the social media that we interact with, all the websites we interact with, that's the most successful and that's what they do.

52:25 Right? Exactly. This is cool. They got some neat construction happening here. Some concrete pumping. That's always neat. Yeah. Look how the truck is. Just dumping it in. And and the machine's pumping it in. That's pretty cool, man. I mean, that is one big rain drop. Pretty cool. Well, so, you know, like, if you have a really small project, getting a bag or two of concrete is, you know, the way to go.

52:51 Pretty cost effective. But once you reach a certain level on a project, that's most concrete, it's like in a concrete mixer word. No. Like the. Yeah. The actual truck coming and delivering the concrete is. Yeah, like magnitudes more energy efficient. Right. And cost efficient. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's kind of a no brainer, but some people might need to hear it.

53:15 And, we made a bad choice coming down the street early. Like, why is that thing so loud? Especially compared to the concrete, mixer and, rotary mixer and pump were quite a shit. Yeah. Makes no sense that that Sunbelt cherry picker should be the loud machine. They say it sounds like five busses. Well, it's a good test for our audio software to see if we can filter that out.

53:44 Yeah, yeah, with some degree of success. Oh, I forgot, guys, we're in the studio this is actually just a construction track. You know, one of these days we're really going to have to get outside for real. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah. One of these days where it is a lot or just a of the whole idea because, I mean, sometimes it's like pretty.

54:05 The person actually impregnated a fan into the into the wall there. Look at that person actually like built the box and into the, into the wall already. Then what. Which method was a bit pretty well, yeah. Together got a center, a makeshift outlet as well, or an inlet fence was really the fence line.

54:30 Yeah. So anyway, some kid left their book bag there. Anyway, this, whole studio idea. Right? It's like, is a lot of work to, like, simulate when we're walking up a hill and bring heavy and think. Yeah. So what you people don't see is we're actually passing each other little cue cards. In. And they've got cues on ambient noise or reactions and this whole thing, which seems totally eclectic and it's all part of a pre-scripted outline.

55:00 So sorry. It's, it's it's, you know, it's like reality TV if you think it's real. Yeah, sure. It's all ready and rambling as planned. So, Sorry. People like non-sequitur, mindless, out of control, meandering nonsense research shows, right? You can keep people more engaged in a podcast if you just blather on about nothing. I mean, you know, you got the shows made about nothing like, didn't Joe Rogan prove it?

55:31 Oh, I mean, who gets the most successful podcast out there? Is it? No, I think so. Yeah, we're in the top 5%, so we're doing well. Let's go over in 5% now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we're over 10,000 downloads and yada yada woo. When that, when that gets per episode, then we're on to something. What? But, you know, I think if we do want to have that.

55:55 So like next year we're doing season two of our podcast, so. Oh I think if we want to get into that, we might have to consider some studio for real. Yeah. Or something. You know, like some general cohesive conversation. Right. Or some kind of plan. Talk a little more fluidly. I could stop doing all the old man searching for that word, searching for that term, searching for that name.

56:15 Right. I mean, I just set to, Yeah, that guy hit on, What was that? Yeah, yeah. Remember back in, what was it, 70? I don't know, 80? No, you know, year it was that young man's name. Joe. Oh, Gerald. You mean that young boy, the freckles deliver the papers? Yeah, yeah.

56:39 And what was his name? You were like a kid from mad TV. Yeah, I think his name was Sam. Then. Then I should say Alfred Newman. Yeah. Alfred. Okay. Yeah. So it was 81. It was 81. Yeah, yeah. Back to the original boy to find the date. Right. Well, let's, let's let's recall these other associative things that might help us get to the date that we also can't recall.

57:03 But then eventually, you know, if you get there, you get there down ten links in the chain, you get a positive hit of memory. And then they all come flopping back. Right, there you go. Chain react back and, you know, get a moment of you going to find the right domino to topple. You. Have you have you finally have a non senior moment in your chain of senior moments.

57:21 You know it happens I love it now. Looking forward to it. I mean maybe like if we studio in it and I had like 5 or 6 cups of coffee. Verse two might be able to actually have a fluid bang up conversation. I mean, I think we did really good on Monday. I think you need to get that one in.

57:37 That was yeah, I think that was amazing. He had to start going by ear Monday. We did pretty good. Well, it was my major kick it in. I feel like he I feel like all of our meds and coffee must be kicking in, because we had a really slow and cogent conversation about ideas we didn't rehash the same.

57:56 Well, trying ground, we broke some new ground. All right, all right. Yeah, I know, it's like we have to, like, hire somebody to help us make a highlight reel. Yeah, yeah.

58:12 Wow. There you go. Look up with the foot. Look, that was like, we just recorded, like, a perfect audio clip of a bus. Yeah, we're a array of on that bus. That bus needed me to move out of the way to go up the road. Okay? And the look on her face was like, my life didn't matter.

58:34 Like the look on her face was as casual as it can be. Seeing that close to her. Props to her. Props to her for, putting my life in proper context. I mean, you know, getting the kids to school takes priority over your existence. Might read it. Just might. Well, our goal function is, from. There we go.