0:00 You know, knows like distributes wealth appropriately, you know. You know, there's nothing wrong with a little bit of, you know, meritocracy. There is that there should be meritocracy, because meritocracy is a motivator, for sure. And but I guess what I'm trying to say is I respect. All right. So I know I've mentioned this before, but I draw a parallel and maybe a false one between some of the openness that happened as the wall came down in.

0:36 Berlin and some of the openness that happened in, as the, as a regime change began in Russia. And this, openness and understanding they tried to achieve whenever they were abolishing apartheid in South Africa, that it was like an opening of the festering wounds of society, trying to clean it out, trying to get rid of this sepsis that was infecting everyone and say, look, we need a new worldview.

1:09 We need something more fair and balanced. And the only way we can do that is be open about where we are and what happened and how we got here. Yeah, I can't hurt. I mean, to be fair and accurate about your history is pretty, pretty clever. I mean, it's going to be probably lead to better reform than if you're got your head in the sand about your history.

1:27 Yeah, yeah. If you're afraid to admit. Look who did what. Whatever. And it's it's like a does this make sense to me? It's like a postmortem whenever it comes to a project or a failure. Yeah, it will work. You know, in what we do, it feel like you don't assign blame. You determine what happened, why it happened. And you bury.

1:55 And you try to look at processes and people and say, okay, what can we do? Yeah, I mean, I love those things. Like, you know, don't assign blame. And then also like, there's no dumb question type thing and then someone asks a question, everybody in their minds like, that's a dumb question. Well, yes. But everybody in their mind, that's a dumb question, right?

2:14 As long as it doesn't, it stays there. Yeah. We're like, you know, someone asks a question right after someone says, don't worry, there's no dumb questions. Somebody asks them questions, and then everyone looks at each other like behind that person's back. Like more like, you know what a fucking tool. You know, 100%. And then these things like, hey, we're not going to sign blame, but we're going to do a deep dive into what happened.

2:37 And then behind the scenes, their assigned blame. Yeah. Yeah yeah. It was it was Joe and marketing or it was it was Sean. Sean did it. John did it 100 100%. I've been so I've been the person who has done it before. And usually I try to get out in front of it and be like, look, this is what I did.

2:59 I think this is what I did wrong. You know. This is how I intend to fix it. You guys let me know. Yeah.

3:10 Been there too. So, you know, you have this idea where you go back and you go back and look at history, hopefully with unbiased, you know, lens and try to figure out a thing like you're talking about South Africa, apartheid. You know, go back and do like a deep analysis of, you know, kind of the history, how they got there, the colonization, everything, the intermix, the cultures, the war, the whole history of the country.

3:39 Right. Crazy things. Like they had people admitting they ran drug programs to get segments of society addicted so they could be controlled. Yeah, but they had people admitting it. Yeah. Sure, sure. That's not that. It happened, but someone admitted they did it. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's true openness right there. You know, we're here in America. We just hide behind lawyers and you know.

4:07 Right. No one would ever admit that they did that in the 80s or 70s. Well, the whole thing right in America, the most recent, you know, the truth that that big family don't remember the name, but that family that, you know, was raked in billions and billions, right? They got fined only millions. Yeah. I mean, but the big loss of life and, you know, a bunch of bunch of degradation of life or whatever the word you want to use, the degradation is a great one, you know.

4:35 Oh, we forgot to say what the reason is. We've started on this topic. You were saying the, stuff? Yeah. The pope was visiting Canada, apparently to talk to some. Apologize for some past. That had to do with the schools they tried to set up for indigenous people, native, native Canadians. And, you know, there was the Sackler family.

5:02 Sackler. There you go. Yeah. And, all the fraud waste interviews. So the Pope himself is going to apologize for past atrocities. Okay, here we go again. Yeah. And and that's what we were saying before we started recording Here We Go Again in that it always seems like, you know, the the apology comes a generation after the atrocities.

5:25 The. Sure. And we're apologizing once for something that happened over 50 to 100 years. Yeah. And we did that whole podcast, like, try to be future thinking, like forward thinking, like, what are we doing today? You know, that's that people are going to be apologizing for next generation. Good point. And there's a whole host of things, you know, no doubt about it.

5:44 And you know, we whole podcast and we don't even rehash that. But, you know, that's the thing is that it just it's clear there's this clear history of, you know, fraud and abuse and, you know, sexual problems and all kinds of stuff related to, you know, all these different churches and religions and all the religious. Yeah, yeah.

6:07 All this religious extremism, you know, always, always has the same result. It always leads to something fucked up. Always, always it does. And, you know, I can't say it enough. I have that trifecta. It's excessive drug use to point where it's, you know, habitual and fucking up your mind, you know, so in things in excess. Right. So I'm wondering if the plant growth is also a measure of protection.

6:32 You get over my, fence. Fence? You're going to land at some nasty plants. Yeah. It's like the church backyard is set up with layers of different, like, so. So if a rival church invades or something. Yeah, it's like defense in depth. They're ready for an Uber urban crusade.

6:51 Yeah. There's all those mosques, you know, popping up all over the place and got to get ready. But anyway, so you know that trifecta, right? Drugs to the point where they're where they get to get into the brain and start messing up the thought processes. And there's a, you know, habitual habit, you know, that extreme, the other extreme of consumerism and all of its forms.

7:12 Right. Overindulging even in food. But you know, monetary putting everything on a credit card, ruining your credit, ruining your, you know, your future prospects. And then the religion, religion extreme. Those three things are the things that I just see. Take people down man. Yeah. And and also like the dregs of our society. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, of course I don't remember.

7:36 Wow. Some of these guys just out, just laying on the ground. I don't remember who said this, but what? Who was it that said that religion is the epitome of the masses? Nietzsche. Nietzsche? So, I mean, we could add a corollary to that and basically say, we've got two more. We got, you know. Yeah. I mean, it's it's all about relevant to, to society when and although technological sophistication pharmaceuticals also mentioned, you know, it sure might fall under the umbrella of consumerism.

8:07 But I'm going to say, you know, this whole social media thing is almost another category on its own for sure. Absolutely. Yeah. The, the misinformation that well, that was one when we talked about that thing of what are the moral failings of our time. You know, and that was this, you know, incredible unfettered barrage of misinformation that people are getting exposed to and collectively, government and private industry failing to work together with a known problem to remedy this.

8:40 Right. And, you know, this whole kind of fall on your laurels and just say, oh, free speech is not the right answer. Just like following your laurels and say Second Amendment isn't the right answer. All the shootings, you know, something going on here? Well, it's it's too foreseeable and simple. It's it's too easy to grab. What really we're looking at is if you've got a problem that's reared its ugly head continuing and continually, continually, it's a deeper issue.

9:05 You have to dive in. You have to understand that it's not just connect one dot and we're done. Sure. And and I guess that's what we started talking about, that really, we need a deeper examination of social issues surrounding whether or not if whatever problem we're trying to fix, you have to understand the context in which it grew.

9:28 And we're not getting that with the gun issue. We're not getting context in history. Understand the context of the history. And that's perfect. Segue back into what what I really want to talk about. And that's when when we go through to through history, there's such a large the depth and breadth of history is so widespread for for more recent history, in more recent history, times like, you know, yesterday was the best documented day in all of human history.

9:55 The day before that was the best documented, right? Because we're creating so many, so many fingerprints, so many, you know, you know, pieces, pieces of historic information recorded all the cell phone use, all the video, all the audio. Right. Like being history is being recorded and unprecedented level every day as technology expands. But if you go back, you know, 200 years, we have a pretty damn good set of records, you know, going back about that far.

10:20 And I think here we've got a point of distinction. We've got open records versus corporate records. Most of what's being recorded as corporate to make money or to monitor money. Fair enough. So let's say that there's public, private, you know, personal and, you know, privatize. And all of them have grown, right? Yeah. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. And so when you piece it all together, though, there's all these different accounts, different takes and flavors and deep dives in different parts of American history, you know, going back 200 years.

10:49 So which part of that do you pick when you're, when you're going to bring history forward? Do you just are you better off not picking but rather someone picks? Inevitably someone makes us like, yeah, it's true. It depends on what? It's just like, you know, with with any job, what data sets do you have access to? That's right.

11:12 So by default you're picking right. And then the exposure defines your defines your focus. So like when you're exposed to the tobacco industry the history of the tobacco, you know, tobacco picking and tobacco harvesting. And as a cash crop in America you can you can write a historic account specifically just to that and have volumes, right. I mean, and it goes on and on and on.

11:36 And, you know, so when you're teaching history, let's say in school, right, to children, which part of which part of history? You know what I believe the one you know about is the one you're teaching, right? Exactly. And so, you know, this whole CRT thing, this critical race theory idea behind all this stuff is like cherry picking certain information to, like, demonize white people and, you know, all this kind of crap.

12:01 And it's like you're focused to find your reality. If you want to focus on specifically on the slave trade and the slave history in the United States, there's ample documentation and you can spend all of your historic time learning about American history. Focus on that particular aspect, just that one aspect. See what I'm saying? Yep. And so but in the problem, in doing so, when you attenuate your mind and you look through history as at through only that narrow lens, this going to create an enormous bias within anybody on how and how they think about the country.

12:35 If you have the lens of looking for things, looking for opportunities where people were exploited, looking for times where people did the wrong thing, then you're going to miss out on all of the times where people did the right thing. You're going to miss out on the times where people. Exactly. And chose correctly. That's right. And so you can look at history through a lens of patriotism towards the people that built this country into what it you know, and I think the balance, I think patriotism and nationalism you need to be careful with.

13:07 Well, that's always true. You know, patriotism and nationalism are not the thing to lead with. I think that's what you put. Okay. I think that's what you put on the icing on the cake. Right. And so then you can look at the history through the series of people that had money and influence in society, the the leaders and the movers and shakers, the people that had money and power and influence.

13:26 You can look at history through that lens, which is typically what happens, you know. Yes. So the European history, you study kings and queens, right? You know who donate, who creates the libraries, the Carnegie's of the world, the rich, the famous. Those are the people who bestow upon us their largesse to create the trappings of a modern society.

13:46 Sure. Those are the people that donate and run charities. They shape our world in countless ways. The billionaires run this place, and we get we we get the society that they deem correct. Yeah, like Rage Against the Machine. They don't have to burn the books. They just remove them. Right? Right. Because it's like the powers power structure in charge can determine what's in the library, which then in turn.

14:09 And you know what's being taught in schools as well. Yeah. In general. And that power structure is directly connected to the fount of money that all of these different people have. Right. And so then the, power structure might even. Yeah. You know, we'll just walk down, turn around. So the power structure in this in this case might just be, you know, populist, meaning they're just going with more of the same.

14:33 Because just if you don't know what else to go with, just go with the default. Right. And so you'll have your library that you you wreck somewhere out of charity because you have the money to do it, and you're going to fill it with the populist information that you know, you're familiar with, even without some kind of clandestine, you know?

14:52 Yeah. Kind of. It's not like it was back in the days of, you know, the Biltmore family, or the Vanderbilts. Right. It where these people had massive libraries and what they did when they donated to other libraries, they said, well, put, the same books I have in my library. It makes sense. People are more likely more inclined to propagate what they're familiar with than they are than they are.

15:17 Some of the books they had were classic and yeah, popular with what they're familiar with and also what they believe. Yeah. So it furthered those things. Sure. So there's a there's an automatic confirmation selection bias in the information that historically is picked that we've heard that we bring forward and say is American. If they did it then they're still doing actively doing it now, if not even easier.

15:42 Rather than just saying popular information, there's still pushing their beliefs, their ideas and shaping society through their donation of the books. Right. So during Covid, Owen had a really, really, really advocate teacher, right. This is African American lady, and she was talking about all the time. It was history. She was a history teacher, and all the time she was talking, everything was always through the lens of like black people being oppressed, right?

16:11 I mean, it's happened a lot. Well, sure. Like I said, you can write an entire history from any perspective that you want, right? You can you can write a entire history of, like, the working poor or the entire history of the wealthy and connected. Guess what I'm looking at? It is okay. All these different history teachers are going to have their different perspectives, right?

16:33 And so being exposed to that for a year probably didn't hurt it. I rounded it out. That's irrelevant. And whether or not it hurt him. It's it's it's whether it's intellectually sound to cherry pick a specific set of facts, just like we just said. Everybody's going to do that if you're a teacher.

16:54 You're going to take your own perspective and your own exposure and broadcast it. Right. So the only way that this is appropriate is when it's established as to what information is being brought forward and why. Right. Like you said about the apartheid discussion earlier like, have something, have it, have it be honest and above board. Yeah, right. Well, this teacher clearly it was kind of teacher that has a chip on her shoulder.

17:20 Like, she, she just she just reeked a victim mentality all the way through and was like, gotcha. Right. And she was bestowing them that idea onto the children through her lens and bringing information only forward. The like evil Whitey is, you know, still to this day, you know, out there when whipping them in the fields, you know, I mean, that could have also been a I wouldn't getting ginned up, you know, and broadcasting it even more extreme than she was presenting it.

17:51 Well, I know, I know, when I was 11, 12, 13, I was writing all kind of crazy essays based on some shit. I was listening to conspiracy theory stuff, writing essays on that. I was looking, I was taking what my teacher told me and went totally extreme with it. I mean, there's that possibility too. Yeah. So the lens through which I see all of history through is one that's a focusing lens.

18:16 Okay. So like I see history through a process of which has brought us to this point. Okay. And it was a really slow, slow moving thing for a long, long time. And it was really primitive and really chronic. Well, I guess not with the tools and methods we had. Not easy to chronicle when it was slow. Hey.

18:37 Right, right. It's one of the reasons why there's there's so much missing history. Like, don't go have to go back to far to start having a big void. It was hard to chronicle and hard to preserve. Right, right, right. So technology serving as a feedback loop has done like two things to society. One has given us a massive record of history.

18:56 Right. But it's also in turn sped history up. Right. Because we have more history. We chronicle every second. Right. Things are moving so much faster now, right? Because because technology allows moving things to move faster. And we also have the perception of moving faster because we keep track of every moment. It's just like a personal history of your day.

19:18 If you do more in the day, it seems like a longer day for sure. For sure. Yes. And so society moving at this hypervelocity along with technology moving at hypervelocity really makes history kind of condensed into like we're living in the moment of true history. Like where where truly things are going to change. Whereas or at least they can they have more potential to change because we can pivot.

19:39 We can move. We can, you know, we can go faster. Yeah. And we can, in theory reflect quicker. Yeah. I think the further you go back the, the, the slower change is like the slower you can see change happening over history. Yeah. You know and technology then is a is a multiplier for you know that rate of change you know overall.

20:00 And so I see kind of the entire crux of, of history kind of coming together as, as a focal point, you know, now I think that like kind of what we do in the next 50 years totally determines the future of all forever, right? Because we're in that flashpoint. We're in that we're in that tipping point, for sure.

20:22 It can go either way. You know, it's not just going to society is not just going to stay stable and plot around, you know, plot on I mean, look at the difference in the children, even from my generation to to my kids, right? I mean, it is so damn dramatically different how they're growing up versus how I grew up.

20:39 And it's hard to totally different. It's hard to understand the effects of what these new forces will have on them. It's hard to oh my gosh, quantify it. It's hard to predict it because not only do you have the current forces, like you said, it's not going to continue and plot along like it is. It's it's an ever changing dynamic thing.

21:00 So these forces that are on them today that we are able to catch sight of don't are nothing in respect to what's going to happen in five, ten years. Yeah for sure. So, you know, I'm thinking like in a, in a fourth grade, that's when Owen was his fourth grade year. So I think in a fourth grade history class that the most you can probably do to have the kids have some type of sense is give them kind of a decade or a century or every half century rather kind of idea of like kind of, you know, where things were right per century in a way.

21:37 Right. And then fill that in with just a summary of the major things. I mean, that's kind of what we did from what I remember in fourth grade, fourth grade in North Carolina curriculum, at least. I don't know about private schools or what they're trying to do. But in North Carolina curriculum, fourth grade and eighth grade are state history.

21:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're state standards and stuff. Well, what I'm saying like state it's focused on, oh, the history of North Carolina. Yeah. And so we did learn in fourth grade and eighth grade a shit ton about slavery and war, because that's the major shift that happened in this state. And, you know, but it was like that.

22:19 It was like we got snapshots of time periods. Sometimes it was 30 or 40 years. Hey. Yeah. You know, we'll spend a week on this 34 year period. Yeah. But I think what's happening I think really like the net effect of like teaching slavery and these type of things to young children like fourth graders. Right. Like nine year olds basically.

22:39 Yeah. You know is not a healthy thing. Like I do. I personally don't think I see what you're saying, but I guess I'm not trying to say I. I will say what it did, at least reflecting upon the experience and what I remember of it myself. It was the first time I ever wrote a big report. I remember that because I had to write a report on my state.

23:03 But, it really.

23:08 Opened my eyes not only to they did a good job of not just saying, here's all the bad. But they did. They took a chance to say, hey, a lot of bad stuff happened and they didn't shy away from it. And I think that's not necessarily horrible. Well, I know my family history. I have a person in my family.

23:27 My Aunt Lois is our family historian, goes all the way back to like, the really early, early, you know, times in England. Way, way, way back and really cool, you know, based on how it's charted now. You know, you look at DNA and stuff like that, and family trees are never really, never really drawn correctly. But beside the point is that there are people that are, you know, ten generations back, you know, six, seven, eight, ten generations back that we kind of know who those people were.

24:00 Yeah. And that's the that's the cool thing that gives you that connection. Right. And my family was still a bunch of people that were very much advocates against slavery. So that was mine, weirdly enough. And so that that school that you even know, that heritage like one. And how many people know their heritage like that to that level?

24:16 True. You know, and, so, you know, my family didn't inherit any kind of generational wealth from me, you know? No, I'm not. And I am the wealthiest person in my family. Yeah. So one, two generations back for just like everybody else, right? So that's a, that's a real thing. Is that to this day, to this day, right.

24:40 We have this massive hypnotic illusion that's being bestowed on us. Right. Oh I want to correct this. Actually, I think my father is the wealthiest person. Okay. Anyway. Go ahead. Yeah, well, you have to catch up in age, you know? You know, he passes, then, you know, when you reach that, you know, maybe you make a fair to make a fair comparative analysis.

24:58 Yeah. I started a lot later than he did. Fair enough. So here's what I'm saying. On this point is that, you know, you say, look, realistically, realistically speaking, okay, the way that society is kind of carved up right now is that there's the ultra wealthy and then there's everybody else. Yeah. Right now. Sure, you can find gradations in the middle.

25:22 You can find some people that are, you know, working their way up. If you want to call it that. Right. Or investing their way up to term. There we go. And, you know, there's like the proverbial lottery winners, like, in certain business, someone gets into a niche and it just explodes. And but, you know, for the most part, we all know the truth.

25:43 And that is there's like the rich keep getting richer and then there's everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in general generalizing. Yeah. And I'm not going to say that Pooh Pooh the but that's the way we have to the romance story of the person pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and getting rich. Oh, I'm not going to either.

25:58 And but again, that story is in broad strokes, just like we're speaking in broad strokes of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. No, that's not a broad stroke. That's a pretty much a fact. I mean, that's not a broad stroke. It's a broad stroke to say there's plenty of pathways to getting rich, because that's a bunch of bullshit, right?

26:15 That's what I'm talking about. I mean, that's what's that's what's oversold to us. Yeah. The and it's previously been packaged as the American dream and the opportunities that that affords. But, being in the midst of possibly lower middle class, I would say, that, you know, those paths are ever narrowing. Those paths are not, you know, it's like, okay, the boomers are decrying our laziness, but ultimately their their rent was a a quarter to a third of their income.

26:59 Our rent now is sometimes for some people, 75 to 80% of their income. Sure. Yeah. And boy, we can really get into why that's that is. But you know, that's not necessarily for this conversation right now. Morning. You know. But but but to go back to kind of consolidating this, this logic here of where I'm coming at from this historical perspective, okay.

27:21 Is that I think that I think that a crystal clear case can be made that there's this really clever marketing, you know, really clever use of language and stuff, calling somebody upper middle class because they make $150,000 a year. Right. But then a upper middle class that's still shoulder to shoulder with the poor, it relatively just someone that's billionaire in this.

27:42 And that's the crazy thing. It's relativistic here. I mean, everything is relativistic. It is, it is. But but I'm saying $150,000 a year sounds like a ton. But then whatever you get into what it takes to maintain that and to be in that race, $150,000 is not a lot. Just go ahead and get yourself a piece of paper and make little lines, tick marks for every 1000, okay?

28:09 And then you get up to 100,000. And then you'll need a logarithmic scale to even get to, because you don't have 5000 sheets of paper to keep doing this on. Right, to get into the billions. Yeah. So the person that's making $150,000 a year is so close, proportionately to the person making $5,000 a year on that, on that chart, compared to the person making the billion that it's not even it's you can't even see separation.

28:33 If you put that on a scale of graph, you can't even see separation between the person making 150 and the person making $5,000 a year. Not not in the grand scheme. No. Right. So the real the realistic picture here, take it from paper to spreadsheet and you can't see much difference. Yeah. Well the visual you know the visuals is where it's at.

28:54 I mean, you have an economy that's distributed under a hockey stick kind of model, right? And that's just, hey, we're coming along, we're coming along, and then boom. Meteoric rise me or rise. Right? And if you're in that part where you're just past that curve of that meteoric rise, then you're in that 1% category. Yeah. Okay. Perfect person.

29:11 Right. So let's face it, there's the ultra wealthy and everybody else. Let's stop using these terms like middle class, etc. and so forth. Well, artificially segment society. And but it also it does make people easier to put in buckets. I mean, you have to say, I think because of how we grew, grew into what we're making, that we'd be able to relate more with the person who makes 5000, 10,000 a year, 18,000 a year.

29:40 And we didn't. But, no, and we do. But the the labels go ahead and make people or the buckets make people feel separate and apart from these other things. Right. And and and artificially superior. Artificially superior. I make 150. You make you make 50. Haha. I make three times what you make. So it must mean I'm three times better than you would.

30:00 Not true. Okay, well then what are you comparison to the person that makes a billion? Exactly. You're one 100,000. The person that person is. Which is not true at all. Which is not true at all, right? Right. That's what I'm getting at. And yeah, that it's. And that's what people argue constantly. And that's the myth some people swallow that, you know.

30:19 Hey that super athlete. Yeah. They have a specialized skill. But you know, do they deserve, you know, a hundred million a year? I don't I don't think so. But hey, that's that's me. Just like the CEO or the CFO, they have the very specialized skill that they deserve, you know. Well, for millions of years, does does the does the top athlete, you know, in whatever sport, you know, deserve $100 million a year?

30:49 Well, I don't know. The the whole system itself, the whole enterprise of that sport distribution, all the merchandizing, all the, you know, all the money that's made with that person's name and talent and people watching. 100 million is nothing compared to what the other people are making, right? Right. People that are on top really almost getting the minimum wage out of it proportionately.

31:09 Here we go with proportionality again. Right, right. And so let's now go back to the history idea because this is where I, what I said how it's like all all comes to a focal point. Right. Is that in this really fast history, moving pace, history of the industrial Revolution and then this post-World War II era, we have the greatest increase in productivity through automation and through mechanization, and the greatest increase in material wealth that the world has ever seen.

31:38 Because due to globalization and the ability for people's economic and labor and economic outputs to contribute, because technology allows us to, you know, basically if we want to work from home, right. Even so, technology has opened up labor to to shit your cell phone. You can be basically working 24 over seven, right? Right. And so labor has been transformed to not just local but to global and very mobile as well.

32:05 And technology itself with this, you know, advanced mechanization and automation is basically, you know, the industrial output of some of these mechanized factories used to take tens of thousands, in some cases hundreds of thousands of people to produce what now can be done by robot with only 1 or 2 technicians monitoring the robots? Right, right. You can imagine this factory farm scenario where there's this huge combine out there and there's a 500 acre farm, let's say, and the combine is being run by GPS.

32:38 Yeah, it's self-driving. Right? There might be a person in there, but they're on their cell phone or watching TikTok. Or if they're not just making sure that things not going, just making sure the minimum is happening, they're doing it's the the job has turned into the homer job where he's like, right sitting there waiting for the chance to push the button.

32:58 Yeah. Now, understand that 500, that 500 acre farm in the past couldn't exist because you couldn't get that many migrant workers to go to, to, to show up during harvest time. Yeah. So technology increased scale that you could work at, and also the speed at which you could end productivity and productivity out the ass. Yeah, unprecedented of all of human history.

33:17 Yeah. And we can measure. Right, right. And so now put this into perspective. Now what you see is that people that have the access that that control, that means of production, okay, the people that cap that system, the people at the top of that system, the politicians in the in the ultra wealthy. Yeah, right. Are are the ones that are on top of that system.

33:37 And, you know, all their money is in is in assets in stocks and things like this. Right. Like their money. As this productivity expands, their wealth expands like fucking nuts. Right. But the common person, the everyday person that's working for a wage doesn't see any expansion. In fact, we just for inflation there's been contraction. They've seen contraction. And, you know, not just inflationary pressure but pressure.

34:02 You know, the I guess the I guess inflationary pressure is behind all of the knock on effects of the consumer price index increasing the rent increasing. Right. So that inflation goes up. But your wage doesn't your wage doesn't change annually any annually with the inflation. You've just taken a pay cut every year, right? Yep. Or every month however you want to dice it up.

34:24 So now put this in the broader historical context, okay. You you've always had this dynamic since the Industrial Revolution, this kind of post slave. And you can even go back to the slave era if you wanted to, and just look at it as a more, kind of down to earth biological separation. But now the technology is acting as a force multiplier to to one up physical this Lavery.

34:48 I'm not I'm not advocating that slavery be looked at this continually. But slaves were a technology. Well, yeah. I mean you can argue anything the technology really write anything that human beings use and apply as a force multiplier or to change the change, the makeup of how something is done is a process. I mean, they shove the work off to slaves and it shouldn't have been done.

35:18 I'm not trying to say it should have been done, but that was a stepping stone to the Industrial revolution, where it was mechanization instead of personalization of effort. Okay, so now the plantation owner, let's say, okay, with, with with his assets, let's say the I don't know what the biggest one. Let's let's just imagine, for argument's sake, someone in Jamaica or Georgia probably.

35:43 Yeah. So let's say there was a cotton farm in South Georgia, something like that. Right. And let's say it was 80 acres. Sure. Okay. And had a slave per acre. Okay, okay. I mean, I'm thinking that, you know, once once you get above that kind of threshold, you'd have you probably had a few hundred slaves. Yeah, but that would then have to be managed in in tears, you know?

36:07 Yeah. Okay. Like direct control of for family. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Overseers. One overseer to I know that guy. Who? That guy who, ran this show. Okay. Had a certain level of health care they could obtain. There's only so much they could have paid. Right? They weren't getting MRI. Yeah, right. And, you know, what they were getting was largely speculative care.

36:33 That's right. Leeches. And you know what? Not right. Yeah. And for the most part, yeah, they're in the nice house, but the house wasn't air conditioned right there in the nice house. And they had the they had the people waiting on them hand foot. Right, right. And but they were still dealing with they still had the same like proportionately not so far off lifestyle.

37:00 Okay. Now obviously they weren't enslaved but and, and I've toured these slave homes and now I know they're not an accurate picture of what they were, but really, man, the ones that are dirt floor, it looks scary. There's not even a, you know, you you don't have. They were afforded a lot more protection against the environment as a slave owner than a slave for sure.

37:26 For sure. Yeah. So but the but the overall the proportional difference couldn't be too far because okay. Because if you had a rotten tooth as a slave, as a slave and you had the rotten tooth as the son of the slave owner, you're probably just as likely to die. Yeah. And you're probably going to see the same dentist.

37:45 And dentist is going to pull both the both tooth. It's just the same. And you might get it replaced by a cadaver tooth. There you go. And so the point is, is like there was for so long before like this magnification through this kind of focal point. As I keep saying, there was basically just like people in this shitty circumstance together, you know?

38:06 Yeah, yeah. But now through all this modern technology and all these advances that are coming out in this crazy shit, there's people that are living completely different than the than the majority, like we're talking, say, Sergey Brin on his founder, co-founder of Google on his private island where everything is imported. He's completely insulated from society. He has a complete water recycling wastewater recycling system.

38:30 He has he's completely off the grid. You know, he's got he's fully and completely independent, whereas you and I yeah, we're we're integrated. Yeah. We have to be fully integrated to make our, our, I guess, middle class wage, quote unquote middle class. Yeah. It's got to qualify that as not an accurate term, but but anyway, so what we have to this day now in the modern time, like right now in 2022, what we have is we have people over one majority of the masses, you know, 320 million of us here in America fighting over to fucking scraps, not getting even close to a proportional share of all the wealth been generated by this automation

39:13 and modern productivity and technology. Right, okay. Globalization and the economics that come with it. We're supposed to take care of that for us. But they didn't. Right. And with enough history, enough documented history to look back, not so far in history and feel like we're fucking kings, relatively speaking. Yeah, right. But when you look at it from a proportional standpoint, we're worse off than we were relativistic.

39:37 Relativistic to the people that are at the top. So so what I'm saying. Ultimately, when you're fully integrated in the system, you have less freedom, you have less 100%, you know, so you don't have that upward mobility. You don't have, like, okay, just as an example, this is a few tears above me. This guy, he's the executive over my portion of the company.

40:05 He's like, yeah, me and my family just managed to go to our 250th country. That's a pipe dream for me. There's no way in hell I'd be able to, in five years, go to 250 countries. 250 countries, There's 250 countries, or. I don't know if that was 200. He was saying, no, I'm just kidding. I'm making a joke.

40:26 I know, I know that there's like 312. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. And so he's went 250 of them okay. And it's like he's like, yeah. We decided just before the pandemic. And so I'm like, well so you're talking Max five years.

40:41 And it's like but he's so out of touch. He's telling us that it's like, dude, this is like the CEO of the company driving in with a, you know, I supercar like a Bugatti and saying, my employees enjoy this. Yeah. You know, it's like, dude, all you're doing is making me hate you, and I'm not with you.

41:03 You're not humanizing yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're making me realize how much less time and money I have than you. And to do these kind of things. Yeah. So remember, I I'll say it again because it's definitely worth repeating. It's like there's that simple model. There's three tiers of people in the world, right. There's people that are ride bikes and walk on their own energy is their mobility.

41:29 Right. And then tied to their income and generation of what they have. Right. Right. Yeah. And then there's tier two which is people that get around mostly by car which we're going to go ahead and say people who have the, the they're more plugged in. They have the mechanization. They, the, those things drive their means of production.

41:46 Right. So if you're, if, if the majority of your miles are under your own power, you're in tier one, okay, the majority of your miles are in a car. You're tier two. Yeah. The majority of miles are in airplane, particularly your own. Yeah. You're in tier three. Well, maybe you could even say there's that. You know, there used to be that mid-tier that did fly blends between the tears.

42:08 Sure. But in general. But because I guess it is a great way to get there. Yeah. Simple way to kind of measure. Okay. So okay, we're breaking into those three. And let's not just do it as far as like number of miles. Because you take one plane ride that's like two two years worth of driving. But right. Well we're talking about majority of trips.

42:24 Let's say let's say time time spin okay. Time span. So like when you're doing something are you are you headed somewhere time to time. If you're if your travel time is mostly by jet your own jet. Yeah. Especially your own jet. You're in tier three now. The it's a it's a pyramid of it's a pyramid inverse pyramid. Right.

42:49 So the people that are in the the overall majority of the whatever many 7.88 billion whatever people on the planet. Right. So seven something billion are going to be or 6 billion or something like that are going to be in the shoe leather express bicycle category. I mean, I've been there, right? You have to now a couple billion will be in the, in that tier in the middle.

43:11 And then a few hundred thousand will be into your three. Right. Maybe now maybe maybe a million globally. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so everybody was pissed off the other day just as an example. Kylie Jenner took a three minute flight.

43:29 Which would have equated to roughly a 50 minute drive.

43:36 So, I mean, you know, there's there's a group of people that they just suddenly were deleted. It wouldn't matter, you know, nothing would change anything. I hope you're right. Maybe an improvement. I would hope you're right, because all that, all that family does is just piss everybody off. Right? And they manage to monetize. Pissing people off. Yeah, it's a whole Trump phenomenon.

43:58 Right, right. You know, January 6th, like, shows you how there's this different not only like, oh my gosh, you kind of beat this dead horse. But still, you know, I, I keep saying, you know, Lady Justice might, might have that a Corvette over her eyes. Might have that, blinder over her eyes. Yeah. But she kind of, I think takes a little to kind of look out of it, to have a quick look at someone's bank account before making their choice or making their decisions.

44:25 Right. Because that motherfucker talking about Donald Trump, that motherfucker should be goddamn in jail. He should. And the fact that he's not is 100% proof that there's two totally different lives, you know, between the three tiered lives. And the thing is, the people that would wager to say he doesn't have. Hey, are you doing. He doesn't have all that many assets or that much money, comparatively.

44:53 No. But like, he's not a billionaire. No, but I mean, come on, you know, when she hit a certain tier, like the amount of debt your your asset to debt ratio, like, you know, you carry debt that counts as a counts as actual asset. Well yeah. Yeah. And how much you can go. And he even goes into that all the time and says how much he loves debt because he can he can leverage it.

45:14 Right. And then you just write it off. But your debt potential is counts in modern accounting as your as your net worth part of your network. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. It's a huge figure into your net worth, your debt potential. Yeah. So if I can go not that again. But if I can go to the bank and I can get a loan for $1 billion, then I have $1 billion of net worth because I can command that kind of resource.

45:34 Right, right. And so Trump might not have a dollar in his pocket, but he has the ability to, you know, debt, finance, anything he wants to do. Right? Like any criminal thing he wants to do next. Right, right, right. But so there's there's a perfect there's there's a three tier justice system as well. Just like I broke down this three tears, you know, and the proportion of how many people are in each tier is is not the point.

46:00 The point is that there's so few in tier one compared to a ton in tier two. But but tier two isn't even close to the mega shit ton that's in tier three, right? Yeah, globally, 2 or 3 is just insane. I mean, you just look at pictures of major cities in China and the number of people that are running down the street on a bike.

46:21 Right. It's like, yeah, totally. And then that's just there. That's just that commute portion. The rest of their day is moving that way to. Right? Yeah. Yeah, 100%. And so, you know, they're clamoring to be in tier two. Right. And it's your two people are clamoring to be in tier one. And then, you know, you can get into the micro tiers like there's a tier alpha which would be above the tier one.

46:41 And it would be like the super mega, you know, extreme weeks and whatever, all that. Right, right. The extreme shakes literally. They can get away with murder, you know. Yeah. Right. I mean, you know, and in some cases it's been exposed that they have gotten away with extreme exploitation or murder. Okay, now let's look at something like the Iraq war.

47:00 Okay. Come on. Let's face it. Bush Cheney. Right. Powell. All the intelligence agency, all of it, they're all war criminals. There's no doubt about that. 100%, 100%. It's whitewashed, whitewashed, whitewashed by the society in which they committed these crimes. That's right. But they're in tier one so they can get away with that shit. They're in tier one, but they've also played the game where they've gotten societal approval to commit crimes.

47:28 So tier one, tier one people can literally get get away with state sponsor. That's the easiest way to get away with state sponsored murder, right? That's it. That's sponsored murder. Yes. Yeah. And with no accountability. Because if they hold them accountable, then they have to hold everyone that does the same thing accountable. Right. Right. Everyone from the. So they don't want to, you know, the general.

47:49 No no no, that's not what I meant. That's what I meant. I meant the other people that are going to come after them, that are in the tier, one, that are making, that are doing the same thing. So the whoever the new Powell is or new. That's right. You know. Yeah. Cheney or. That's right. Rumsfeld. Exactly. And so you know, this this tier one person all the time is able to get away with literally murder or anything else they want.

48:17 You know, and there's because there's a completely different geopolitical, global and even country level judicial system that they're subject to. That's completely different to what tier two, tier three people are depending on the society, some of those things aren't even considered as a crime. Like what Powell did wouldn't even be considered as a crime to our society. Oh, sorry.

48:39 And it's fucked up and it's wrong. It is doesn't. Just because it's not a crime doesn't mean you're not a criminal. Well, absolutely. Absolutely. Because committing a crime against a group or a people, humanity, a human, can be done without being recognized. Not 100%. There's plenty of other countries that have recognized the crime. Yes. Now we do our best to marginalize those those countries.

49:04 We do our best to minimize their impact on the world. We try to couch them as crazy. Oh well, yes. And they like to show up to the dinner party. So, you know, they want to continue to get invited to the dinner party. So they only go so far, right? And they, they, you know, jab each other kind of indirectly by proxy.

49:22 But still there's a, there's an implied understanding. And that's why this whole thing with, with, with January 6th and Trump can't get out of hand because what everyone, every single politician in there will see the writing on the wall like, oh shit, we're holding them accountable. They'll hold us accountable. That's right. And now who's left? But oh, all of the motherfuckers are insider trading.

49:44 They're all doing, you know, they're all in there successfully. Do this against Nixon and his regime, right? Come on. That was a completely different thing. What I'm saying is it's still that accountability. It's still that, you know, in 5 to 10 years after Nixon, then no one suddenly supported Nixon. And I think that's the idea for this.

50:06 We want to basically squash with these hearings general support for his stupidity and try to scuttle the movement. Okay, Nixon did something stupid and the politicians dogpile on him, okay? And it was of no consequence. It didn't mean anything. Breaking into a fucking building to look at a file cabinet. I mean, come on. Fucking. That's nothing. Right? He's getting information on what was it?

50:31 Pretty much opposition research, basically. Yeah. He wanted to know the the strategy of the other party. Yeah. Now you just pay a hacking group anyway, right? Right. But I'm saying oh, hold on, hold on. This is important, right? Because it did amount to something and it shouldn't have been done. And he should have been brought up on it.

50:47 The dude the dude resigns, right? And he was he got hit politically. Okay. It hit politically okay. Trump full on criminal dude. Full on criminal enterprise. I'm saying they're scale isn't the same. But I think the aim of the politicians is the same. They want to discredit him. They want to be thrown him, you know. Yes. And what happens in this new era if they dogpile Trump the way they dog piled Nixon?

51:18 There's there there's too much dirt on everyone. Oh my God, look at all the people. This this this slate of electors nonsense they have. That's most likely the reason Trump didn't get in trouble when he was in office. Yeah, because he had so much dirt on other people. Well, that part I'm I know I go with the first part.

51:37 I don't know or care what dirty has on other people, but he includes so many people in this bullshit he does that you're complicit just by a proxy, right? Right, right. But there were people who I mean, I just can't believe some of the people who were so a non Trumper. And then when he got in, they just jumped on the Trump train.

51:54 So easy, right. Because of the political power shifts. And so they should put it. And I guess maybe that's just it. They're in it for the money and the power. They're in it to continue their insider trading. That's it. They're they're in it to continue their money making efforts. Yes. Why are they all insider trading? Why is that legal?

52:12 I do not understand why it's legal in its interior. Because they're in their in. They have one foot in that tier one. Right. And they're salivating for tier one. Right. That's why. And so then they're in it with all the other people. They're in it with all these tier one people all the time. And they want to be able to take advantage of the information they're exposed to.

52:31 So they make insider trading legal for themselves. They have the perfect position to Brown knows their way literally through political power into that one tier one. Yeah. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's what they, they, they they get seduced by that, the charm of that happening, you see. So like Bernie Sanders and we talked about him before.

52:56 But you have to say he's obviously got some immunity to being seduced. Yes. By these tears. Yes. But what he does, he puts out a series of books. Okay. He's on all these different shows talking about his book. Right. And he's a household name. Everybody knows who he is. So he has guaranteed free marketing for anything that he puts out.

53:19 Who's going to have a massive audience? True. Right. Which I mean, hey, I don't begrudge anyone building a platform for what they want to do. No, but but there there's that channel again, right, of just getting seduced into now, you know, he Sammy wealthy. He owns multiple homes and. Right, right. And so he's like, he's one of the he's one of the poster child for like the good way of doing it.

53:43 Yeah. These others forget it. They let the fucking whatever industrial complex right. The policies and they just rubber stamp it, rubber stamp it. And then later on down the road, they're going to revolve door into some corporate job. Corporate job or maybe, which called the lobbyist. Yeah. Go work for a lobbyist for a couple of years or go right in immediately with a mega salary, with all these golden parachutes and all this bullshit, right?

54:08 It's not even a job. It's not even a salary at that point. Right? It's just your name. Yeah. They're paying you for your connections at that point. That's right. Your name and your access. Yeah. And that's the game. That's that's the toxicity at work. Right. And so anyway, back to back to this core idea of history okay. Ironically, what you have society doing is fretting over ferreting, cherry picking, fighting over what parts of American history should be taught in schools as history.

54:41 Something as simple as that, right? Where is the truth? The conclusion of history is that the wealthy have just impacted their compounded their wealth. Right. So and there's everybody else. And so the people that were in the trenches back in the day doing all the dirty work, don't you have to understand and other things. No, you don't have to understand anything at all except for a fucking graph and a little bit of math.

55:10 I mean, that's all you have to really understand it. Like, okay, you and I have spent 40 plus years in this system and to varying degrees, understanding it, investigating it, researching it, being a part of it. Right. I think you have to prime the pump before you just show people that, okay, 100% truths. Okay. Number one, capital makes money and it's in our system.

55:38 Yeah. Magnitudes more efficiently than labor. No, 100%. Labor is one of the most inefficient ways to. I was just telling Summer this the other day, she was like I'm looking for a side hustle. I was like, well, you know, she's talking about getting a job. I was like, look, that is only going to make you this small amount of money.

55:57 I was like, you got to look at what skills you have that you can sell, that you can get money and then use the money to build money. Yeah. So why not get paid in stock or get paid in, you know, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying, you know, she has to rather than tying her side hustle to physical labor, tie it to something more ephemeral that scales better.

56:20 Sure. Okay. Yeah. And technology, something along technology lines. Because there's always a force multiplier, right. Technology is a force multiplier. Yeah. So again, why being in a tech industry is a good place to be. Right? Because in general tech is a force multiplier. But anyway, the entire lens of history focuses down to one reality is that there's the ultra wealthy and there's everybody else, and that everybody else has been situation situational, designed into just vibrating and resonating off of each other.

56:53 Right, as normal. But what it really is, it's it's just situational design. Right. Because if, because if I'm arguing with a neighbor on what the kids should or should not be taught about history, right. I'm not looking anymore at that graph that shows where I'm at on it. I mean, I see what you're saying and where are my distractions, but we still have to teach the kids about our past and about the context.

57:24 Okay. And about what happened. Okay. All right. So this teacher advocate vigilante teacher. Right. Oh, vigilante. Okay. You know, because she know because. Because it's militant. Yeah. Okay. I mean, or you didn't see it, I didn't, but and if it was one time, I wouldn't even care. Militant. Fuck. Yeah. Militant. Okay, dude, she was angry at white people.

57:50 No doubt about it. All right? And tone would change if I came in the frame. Didn't even say anything. You just put my head in the frame and say hi. Still, it's not that I was just getting amped up. No, dude, you gotta understand. I could hear the full conversation. Oh, okay. When I was at home during the pandemic, what she was feeling.

58:13 Yes, I was right beside him, but off frame. Okay. Got it. So I'm hearing her day in and day out. Okay. I'm like, in fourth grade. Okay, cool, cool. I'm in. I'm in history for fourth grade history class. Yeah. Okay. And, so which which, by the way, there should be a camera in every room and you should be able to your.

58:31 That's holding a story. You should be able to hear what them teachers are saying to the kids, I don't know. Oh come on dude. I mean that opens up such a can of worms. Everybody's going to start arguing about what their kids are taught when, you know, I mean, these people. Maybe there needs to be more monitoring from the administration.

58:49 Maybe they need to hold them more accountable on that front. But each individual parent think of an inner seed and say, I don't agree, but that's not a recording. But that. Why not a recording? Because it involves it's going to have everybody from those trumpet idiots to you arguing to me about From Trumpers to you. I didn't make any argument to know what I'm saying about what she was saying.

59:13 What I'm trying to say is everyone, if there's recordings of all that, everybody's going to jump in and start arguing. It's going to be stupid. But but that's what we had we had during Covid broadcast to every family. That one could have listened. And there was nobody, nobody arguing about it. Okay, I didn't raise any issue at all to the school or to anybody.

59:33 All right. Okay. And I let her own be unfiltered, exposed to this lady. I did not chime in. I didn't give my $0.02. I let him have his experience. Yeah, and I'm talking to you about it. Okay. And I think I think I think you know what you did. Afterwards then was respond to the experience and talk with him about it.

59:55 Right. No, I never have talked to him about it. Oh no. No, that's his that's his experience. Okay. Right. Well, I respect the hell out of that now. I guess that's what I'm trying to defend that even if these people are militant and extreme, our exposure, the kids exposure to that is probably in the balance, decent. It's probably all right.

1:00:14 Probably. You know. Yeah. I guess you'd have to see it for yourself. Like you'd have to see it was way too extreme. You'd have to see it, to see it, to believe it again. Okay. Because it's all rap song about freaking how terrible white people are. No. Holy fuck. And soon I would be around the corner listening to it and our their mouths open, but then kind of smiling like, Holy shit.

1:00:33 She's really playing that. Yeah, I just didn't have cuss words in it, but the messaging was super clear. Wow. That's insane. Okay, the messaging was this white people are evil and they still are to this day. That's a fucking message. And it's like, if you're white, you're evil. So it's just draw the line for real. That's okay. And you know, Owen's like listening.

1:00:53 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And yeah. So that's going to have an effect. But you know, like I said, I, I got it, I got to give him his experience. I, I, I think him making his way through that is a good thing. Yeah. So I told him I told him I don't care. I did go forward and tell him I don't give a fuck what your grade is in any class except for math and science.

1:01:12 Yeah, right. Because history is highly subjective. History is hardly worth the paper spurring on. Yeah. I mean, every time they go back and they study history with, like to create the most unbiased version of a particular event in history, it's completely different from all the different countries and nations and histories. Why? Because you are all propaganda, propaganda, personal biases agenda into this study.

1:01:37 Right. And so what we need is we need a bunch of kids that are being trained to face this technology, techno technocratic world that were, that were entering into and be able to navigate these incredibly complex technical issues and morally, ethically, logically, rationally. And part of how we do that is, for one, having them confront different a panoply of ideas, a cornucopia of different viewpoints, right then we also teach them critical thinking skills and we say, hey, let's hope our bullshit detectors, you know.

1:02:10 Yeah. And that's not what was happening in that history. Absolutely not. She was taking the opportunity to feed them a narrative. It sounds like that's a great way to say it. I like to use words vigilante and Milton. But, you know, your way of saying it's works to that. Both. Both are true. And, you know, she was going rogue from what you're saying, for sure.

1:02:31 And, you know, definitely if her if this recording had been submitted up to her management, which it should have been, that's what I haven't gave for that actually. They're like, okay. Oh, so you would have been the person to bring the recording forward. Maybe I might have been I might have been nice, but I, I that just came out your mouth.

1:02:54 I might have been the person to go ahead and bring it forward to her management. Now, whether or not I, I don't know I don't know whether I would have or not, but it's possible because, and now I guess what I'm saying is, the best, curriculum I was ever a part of was bioinformatics at Unk Charlotte, which doesn't say a whole lot, but, bioinformatics.

1:03:22 The the head of the place, Larry Mayes, he was heavily involved in understanding what his teachers were teaching and the methodology and what they were using and all of that. Like there were multiple classes I was in where he didn't just rubber stamp them after class, so I had to stay after class to talk to several teachers because I was managing their technology.

1:03:45 Dude, bioinformatics is incredibly massive. It is field and incredibly important field it is. And I was managing their technology in a number of their publicly accessible labs. So I was staying after class sometimes to talk to a couple of teachers to find out what they needed. Right. Well, Larry Mayes is consistently coming up to every one of these teachers in my bioinformatics classes.

1:04:08 And because he he was sitting in class taking notes and he would he would sit there all week and every day he would have notes for them about how they presented something, how they how they brought up something, you know, oh, I think you need more coverage on this, on that. You know, that's the kind of engagement I feel like that administration needs to have with her.

1:04:29 Yeah. You're you're looking for that in a public school. I mean, come on. Yeah, sure. You know, and I mean, you see, is public, but they're okay. So does does the government, which is which I've already clarified as qualified as a kleptocracy. Okay. Which is political and or some form of industrial complex driven okay. Through and through. Really wanted an informed public know of of of critical thinking citizens with rational reasoning skills.

1:05:02 I would say it's not in their best interest, but it's. But it's in our best interest, dude, if that. Okay. If if they got if that's what society transformed in society wouldn't stay the way it is, it'd be absolutely impossible that people would say, okay, so so here's, here's your, here's your your focal focal point. Again, imagine the biggest, biggest expansion in technology and productivity in all of human history, right.

1:05:30 And a majority of Americans are either underinsured or uninsured. And if do not get when they're sick, the proper full gamut of treatments that they're supposed to get right, even people that are insured aren't getting that. And I guess that's where I'm trying. This company for profit holds it back. If we go, if we you run, you run a nonprofit.

1:05:54 And the thrust of your non profit, unless I'm mischaracterizing it, is giving people those tools to face down all of these elements of society that we're pissed off about. Right. Well, I'm not pissed off about it. I'm in the zone of like, the the saying the truth. Okay. Is so foreign to everybody that you would be crucified for it.

1:06:23 And to give people the tools to accept and examine and critique our truth. Right. They need they need these things that we both agree we don't think the government wants them to have. Right? In this polarized fucking political theater bullshit world that we're in, right? You have this ultra woke fucking left idiot fucking fuck that. Have their head up their ass.

1:06:45 Then on the other side, you have this alt right fucking neo-Nazi, crazy waste of premises, populist movement, populist Nazis. Right? Right. And like, holy fuck, the truth in the middle. You'd have both of those groups coming at you, right? Okay, so in other words, like so if I jumped in to that, to that class and I said, excuse me, miss, you know, I don't need to say your name, but let's just do the black here.

1:07:07 Right? And I say, look, what you're saying is completely inappropriate. Been listening for days. Yeah, right. Yeah. I have notes here. You know, this kind of thing that you don't don't on these children. It's incorrect. It's wrong. All of my friends that are hatred and exclusionary stuff. No, no, no. So I'm saying, like in my friend group, my social circle mostly is liberal and a lot of them extreme.

1:07:30 A lot of liberal extremists. Right? Right. Would come down as on me, would come down on me like, no, she has the right to teach because the majority of her class was black, right? Right. So no, no, no, she has the right to teach. That's that's all part of our history, right? She has the right to teach that she.

1:07:46 And then she has some general stance to. Yeah, well, that's fucked up. No. Okay, I wasn't there and I didn't see the extreme, the extremity of it. I didn't see what she was doing. So. So what happened, Sean, is the ideology completely clouds even what's right before someone's eyes. Okay. That's why I say fuck the ideology. That's why I'm not a woke left extremist or an alt right extremist.

1:08:14 Because both are fucked up right now. Streams don't get you towards progress. You just get faffing about and you get distracted. Now, the proper lens by which totally appropriate to teach history through to those kids that are all in that class is that you guys are all poor and you come from a long line of majority in this country, that poor people and you to this day are proportionately poor because you're not.

1:08:43 And here's the graph. Here's here's approximately where your parents are. I know because you're not in private school. You're in the public school. So I know that most likely your parents are in this part of the graph. Yeah, right. And the people that that run the country and the people that have all the major resources that have all the large land holdings, just like they did back in the day, are in this small group right here.

1:09:04 Right. And it's even more now, more extreme today as far as the difference in wealth as it was back in this, that's the history. That's the history of the United States. And I absolutely it is. Okay. But I feel like that's not the only ones you can teach through. I feel just like I feel like nationalism and patriotism.

1:09:24 Is it the only thing you try to layer in? Amen. I agree with you 100%. But now here's the here's the kicker. Here's the here's the grand finale of what I'm saying is that the people on the far right and the people on the ultra left, on the far left would both come down on me as a teacher, as, as being, preaching an agenda and brainwashing our children and majority of society, whether the far right or far left would come down on me as indoctrinating our children into some kind of fucking bullshit ideology.

1:09:56 What are you trying to tell those people? Are you trying to get them to hate people that have money? I mean, it wouldn't be a bad thing. Yeah, and and I would be right. See, because I have the data, I have the graph that shows the truth. And maybe if you can, if you can weave that in and introduce those things with data, with graphs, you know, and without.

1:10:19 But I feel like it needs the emotion. It needs the but that's the but what I'm saying is that is the biggest truth, I mean, reality about our whole entire history of United States. Yeah, yeah. 100% agree with you, but I just say that we have to learn other things before we can fully accept that. Okay. What I'm trying to say.

1:10:39 So. So the person on the far right wants their kid to be taught the history of the country is coming from a Christian heritage and values integrated into the curriculum. Okay. Yeah. See, you laugh and snicker at that. And then they laugh and snicker and I laugh and snicker because that's the way I was taught, right? You didn't realize that that's not true.

1:10:55 Now you've bought some kind of new reality, right? Well, yeah, I've bought into another reality that has been shoveled to me by a different a group of people. Right now. We're getting somewhere. Now we're getting somewhere. Right. And the truth is, maybe not somewhere in the middle. Something completely different. Oh, yeah, 100%. And I believe that that truth, when you look at history, is a long history of haves and have nots, and it's sophisticated as we fucking think we are.

1:11:19 We're dumber than ever because we're allowing it to happen worse than it's ever happened before. So there's history for you. People are dumber than they've ever been because they're 100% sidetracked. Their mind is the, the, the, the, the capacity of the mind has been overwhelmed. Our human bandwidth is being taken up and distracted. That's it. You know, we're it's it's more than just a.

1:11:42 Hey, look over here. It's everything. That's it. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. Yes, that's what I'm saying. To combat all that, we have to do what? At least we to think the government doesn't want. We have to teach the technology. We have to teach attendance, critical thinking skills. We have to teach, fair and balanced viewpoints, critical thinking skills.

1:12:09 So, okay, let's say that I was able to coach that class. That history class. Okay. Yeah. Let's just say and let's say that we couldn't be fired. We were both immune. We could say whatever we wanted. Okay, sure. That'd be awesome. I would, I would say in front of all those kids, I would be like, you know what?

1:12:24 It doesn't matter if you're black or white or some color between or Latino or whatever race that you've been told you are or whatever it is. Yeah, okay. We all have. We all can share blood. We're all part of one species. All pink inside. There you go. Yeah. Save that shit for the dark. Right. So, so funny. And so what I would be able to do is say, look, aren't you guys friends?

1:12:48 Don't you think people back in the day also had those friendships when they went to school back then too? And they they. Right. Don't you think they had friends? So, you know, I'd give this. I'd always bring it down. Maybe we can couch it in the positivity and say, build relationships, build these things, you know, hey, not these are the things you don't have, but let's build those things right.

1:13:11 Let's look at the rational reality of where we've come as a nation from, you know, this part and explore like what the dynamic was, how people actually lived at each stage. And then let's take some kind of framework like the gross domestic product. How well is this distributed? Let's look at it from that way. Because wealth, let's be honest, is your access to all resources.

1:13:33 How much money you have and how much wealth you have is literally your access as a human being to resources that you need to live. Yes. Okay. So that's a pretty decent framework by which to frame history upon. So what what do we call this specific history class. It's like health and well, health and wealth across history, I don't know, being ruled, being ruled.

1:13:58 I mean, whatever that needs a subtitle being ruled. Sure. Modern feudalism. Yeah. Yes. Being ruled modern. Modern feudalism. Yes. I bet you could become an adjunct professor tomorrow and teach this. Well, and maybe it's appropriate at the college level, you know. And that's what I'm trying to say. But I think it is appropriate, just like. Okay, so just like, even though that is a very accurate and honest portrayal of our history.

1:14:25 Okay. Looking at the lens of economics. Who has what resources. Okay. Right. That's well documented. It's in all of our. Yeah. And I mean it becomes apparent to the individual the first, the first month they get a couple of paychecks that they're being controlled. They're sacrificing their time money and effort. Yep. And we can go downtown and we can we can look at classic photos of of how things were laid out.

1:14:50 We can look at drawings, okay. And you'd see how you had a storefront and you'd have a merchant class. Right? Right. And to this day, this is what we do. We worship the people in the glass towers. Right. We worship the money. There's a culture of celebrity worship and money worship in this country. And it's. And it's how someone like Trump is able to get away like is in that tier one that that gets away with everything because they're in that well financed class, they're in the tier that we're that tier we're wearing filthy to where we're being ruled by.

1:15:19 We are ceding power and control to. Right. You know, that's right. And that's the that's the thing. I mean, I think that's what it is. We need to look at it as there it's it's simplistic and facile, but they're the ruling class and we are the rule. And how do we change that? We give people the new tools of power.

1:15:41 Right back when you were a Trump making potatoes vote for Trump. That's how you fix it. No. Yeah. Vote for Trump. Let the fucking Fiddler on the roof burn that shit down. Well, that's what everyone thought initially he was going to do. But did he burn anything down? Did he drain the swamp? Did he do any of that?

1:15:59 He lowered taxes for his. He helped his buddies. He put his. He put people in power like DeVos, who had no business running anything related to education. You know, people dive on. You know what he didn't didn't do, but but ultimately, he put people in power that didn't have any business to be in power so they could gain further power, money and influence so that they could further secure the things you were talking about.

1:16:20 Congress. Once. Exactly. You know what we want, what we needed, in a way, okay. To start any kind of moving that Titanic. What we needed was not just someone calling out from the crow's nest. We needed the drunk captain. Right? Because he was one way to beat it. That's right. The drunk captain fucked it up. Right. The drunk captain screwed it up.

1:16:42 It was a Valdez captain or whatever. Right. We needed the Valdez captain in the massive oil spill for people to see the magnitude and the reality. And the best thing that could. That's what the populist movement is trying to do. They're trying to. But they're toppling it with idiots. They're trying to. They're trying to do this exactly what you're talking about.

1:17:00 That's their goal. But their morals, right? There are a bunch of fucking idiots. Yeah. So. So the best thing that could ever happen to topple this clip is to get the swamp draining the swamp, get the swamp creatures to start fighting. Right. Because in the past, they were all working together in this big swamp. And you got it.

1:17:17 Forbid you walk into that swamp, you're going to get devoured. You know your body will never be found, right? They're all working together to cooperate in this whole environment ecosystem. Right. The biggest thing that could ever happen to change the whole thing would be that all start going after each other. Like they expose each other's bullshit. And that becomes the new culture, the new trend.

1:17:33 And that's what they're all. That's why Trump is not getting convicted. How do you how do you do that? It's someone like Trump to do it. He almost literally almost overthrew our democracy. Yes. Right. Yes. And but due to his own narcissism, due to his own need for power and seeking, seeking, that is why he almost ever through our democracy.

1:17:54 Right? It wasn't that he was trying to do a populist thing for the people, but there's already easily 3040 plus charges that are that would stick like, like glue to anybody because they're real and documented. I mean, they're substantive. They they have some push, they have a punch. And let's face it, if you were a tier two person that organized that stuff, you're ready to be way in jail.

1:18:17 You'd probably be facing some type of death. You're right. Because it's treasonous. It's treasonous. It's treasonous. That's that's what is the punishment for treason. Death. And even Trump said that. Yeah. Yeah. Because he called people treasonous. It was so hilarious. I went to the Boston Tea Party Museum. Right. And, they even they even asked that they were like.

1:18:39 So they didn't say outright if the treasonous act that we were about to commit because we were in the Boston Tea Party, but they were like, and what's the punishment for treason? And no, everyone just sits there. And I was like.

1:18:58 And and she's like, correct. Does anyone think this might be verging on that? And no one said anything? I was like, oh, absolutely. We're treasonous people right now. You scream out death in this augmented reality grim Reaper that's massive, appears before the crowd and flies over everybody, and everybody has to duck. I invoked it, but that'll be the future.

1:19:22 It's like the ability to invoke certain things in people's augmented reality. Anyway, we're going over, so. Okay, I'll cut it there.