0:01 So there's this funny thing is big ass rednecks driving around, right, that are obviously like a Trump flag in the back. You know, I'd be glad of the Ford F-150 or whatever, right? And then they they had this, like, uh, nutsack hanging off the back of her. And I'm. So maybe the joke of the day is that literally they're driving around in a trans truck.

0:21 Yeah. Because it wasn't born with that. We're born with that. Uh. That nutsack. Oh, it got bolted on. So, you know, he's, like, really ultra conservative, deep country rednecks drive around a trans truck. I think it's hilarious. But, you know, even though I like the hat, I like how it's, like, just rip out in plain sight. Yeah, yeah.

0:40 Fuck it. I mean, it is medicine. It's. I can literally go to Virginia and grow plants in my yard. And we're talking about a, um, marijuana for the camo hat. So it's kind of like the safety of marijuana being illegal doesn't even exist anymore because it's legal. So everywhere else. Well, it's it's the isn't all like the laws and stuff all relaxing on it across the board.

1:06 I mean, pretty sure it is like a lot of places it's just a fine now. It's not even a not even like taking you to jail. Large amounts will still travel. Onions all. Yeah, yeah. It's not decriminalized in a lot of places. Some places it is. Let me. Dude, they don't want a dump truck coming over to state line or whatever.

1:23 I'll say that you're probably. I mean, you should be able to easily just carry a pound on you, like back and forth, travel like one vacation, like make brownies, do what you need to do. Or at pound or a pound. I think a co-op is probably pretty good or a half pound, but a fucking pound? That's a shit, man.

1:43 It's not like we're gonna go personal use. Yeah, right. They don't know how ever your personal use it. So I have you seen. You seem like. All right. Yep, yep. We we understand that. You see, the people that do like the stuff for sure. Yeah. It's close. So they get like these, like, uh, mattress blower pumps, hook a hose up to it.

2:08 They hit that hose up to, like, one of those water bottle things. You stick it on your head and it blows smoke, and you're like your thing. We saw a video where this guy and his grandma, as all all his older uncle who looked like he was a vet, where we're doing this and they had these shrouds over their homemade helmets to hold all the smoking, kind of like you do with a gas mask.

2:34 Oh, that sounds like it could be cosplay babies. Yeah, you could have fixed. You need some oxygen in there somewhere. Get this mixture.

2:44 I feel like you get the feeling. I don't think you'd be able to last that long because of all the smoke. I mean, they kicked out pretty quick. They were? Yeah, pretty much like 10s. And then. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're back on ten on, ten off. Maybe that's the rule but I mean dude hey person app for that.

3:01 I'm sure there's been times when shopping gone I'm like, I'm gonna go make one because I had nothing to do with I'm bored. Don't be don't be found dead naked with that big on your head. Don't let the new age David Carradine. Oh, my God save.

3:19 I made eating out for that too. They need now for that to one that like if you if you're found dead, it notifies your two, 2 or 3 closest friends. Set a minimum. They can come and take pictures before the paramedics are right and get rid of all your stuff. Your parents don't see the man show did a skit on this back in the day.

3:35 See, they take the pictures, but then they put you some clothes on you and they like, I like. So I don't know, you might have, like, a size dildo. Exactly. Yeah, whatever. It's a girl friend. So your friend comes and stayed. You were this horrendous collection of horn that you want no one to know that you're at least.

3:57 I mean, I'm sure for really kinky stuff, you got to have your own collection. Like you're in a squirrels and stuff, you know, let's admit it, a Dignity in Depth app would be wonderful. So, like, your friends can come over and. And not only does the app like, you know, like notify of your death, your closest friends definitely enough your whole life and come and clean the scene.

4:14 But it lists like when you when you die, it goes ahead and releases all the information of what your friends need to clean up. So like you can be sure that you know it's called the Dignity and Death app. The did maybe like we could do like a sendoff thing where like you could order like, you know, like they had the things where they were out your face on TV.

4:32 You can order like a plastic bag. It does the same thing you like, stick with friends head like no pictures. It'll be nice. Oh. Send out. Yeah. Comes with the comes with the app. And in the little sticker says to head in or something. Right, right. I love it, but the it needs to be the dead app because then you could be you could have it as a bird.

4:49 Did you do you know you? Yeah. Did you do it I love it. He did as well. Yeah. He dead and did. So um, and then also like part of the attitude is like, right in your last dying moment, it can help you profess your heart to Jesus just in case. So, Pascal, they're like Jesus, Allah, Buddha. Well, cover them all.

5:11 Covers them all. So the man show back in the day with Adam Carolla and then had a skit on this and but it was a physical thing. It was like this cleanup crew that would come into hazmat suits. Oh, it's it's just I'm not surprised. They're just get on it because it's a logical. Yeah. It's a logical endpoint of technology.

5:30 Yeah. Right. It's like dignity in that. I mean, you know who else? Who else would die like shit in the bed? You know, like like it's like, right. Shit in the bed choking yourself with your own belt. But it's like says like you don't want to be found. Also, have you heard how, like, uh, your first view bomb, it's like, of course it's my problem tool.

5:51 It's not my problem anymore. I got, like, what you did. You like, what's she matter? Yeah. Are you doing that for? That is just embarrassing for your family. True. And that's what the dignity and death is. You are protecting your reputation and those of your family and friends, right? There's something to it. Like, you know, you die small.

6:10 You. I think the 26 year old rock star. And you're motorized. Like you never have that picture of you being, like, toothless and old and fucking looking horrible, right? It's like there's a certain degree of immortality that come, you know, that youthful. Actually. It's also on Reddit where some guy, uh, computer generated what, like Jimi Hendrix, Kirk and all the left, like, is there.

6:33 Oh, that was terrible, right? That really they were looking to. Oh, yeah. So to some extent they were gifted by Donald. So young and beautiful. So stupid. Question by my grandma. Also start a PR firm with this that will continue to market you after death. If you have any marketable things like like Priscilla Presley did for Elvis, he was a fucking piece of shit.

6:56 But she's managed to make $1 billion empire off his dead ass. Definitely. Like what? What what did he did is dead because he died in dignity. We got we got P Diddy did right. He he did he. But what he did in the biggie. That's true. That's then capitalized. And it said the family can capitalize on this. Yes yes I like it.

7:20 So so my um explosive ordnance story he said, um, you know, at the initiation, these guys roll up frantic, you know, oh, it's been a been an accident. And, um, this explosive ordnance guy went up to a freaking package with to a roadside, you know, device thinking it was nothing. Didn't have his armor on. I think the size of this blast armor wouldn't have saved him anyway.

7:42 And he came out. His body came to us in three separate bags. Right? So let's. Yeah, I think you get the point. And, um, I've never seen this. I don't know how this is possible to this day, but it literally blew him out of his boots, his fully waist up boots. It, like, blew the human body out of the fully laced up boot.

8:00 I don't even know how this possible. I kind of have a theory on that. But anyway, his his parts came. Not his. Not his body like the torso. And, you know, they just collected these parts. And, um, we're sitting there going through his personal thoughts. And he was this terribly tragic and sad, you know, picture of his kids and Wyatt's and, you know, just wallet and shit.

8:19 And so, like, you bag up his personal effects and you know it and, you know, there's a there's a process that's appropriate. And so, um, the medical team, so the medics are sitting there doing this, and the guys first arguing the explosive ordnance, like first, second guy comes up and and says, you know, oh, man, I, I would hate to have your job, you know, and I walked around the corner because like, I, I, I did certain motion.

8:43 So I went around the corner and I started laughing. I couldn't help myself because like, you're worried, you think it's tough to have our jobs. I don't come up, I come, I don't come to your your camp in fucking bags. Right. But also, he's got under the same mentality of one step on top of problem. Yeah, yeah I mean but his, his.

9:04 I guess he's, he's kind of you have to look at it. Yeah. It's like we did everything we could to prevent it from exploding or to detonate it safely. But if it goes off, I'm a problem because I'm ditch. Yeah, I, I, I don't think the brain would have time to have any kind of electrical synapse. I think he just.

9:20 It's just a switch at that point. Yeah. In fact, I to be not to be daft. I think that might be a pretty good way to go. I mean, yeah, dude, it's a hell of a lot better than drowning. It's a hell of a lot of stuff, right? You know? But. But the cats are better than knowing you're going to die.

9:36 Yeah, it's got to be better than terminal camping. It has to be, right. Better than terminal cancer. Better than, I don't know. Oh, no. Terminal cancer. You can get the ditto drug for. And hookers, all that stuff. One last hurrah for your life. That's true. And you can anything other dead roots, right? And die in dignity. Neat personality.

9:56 Poker, right? Like somebody who was. Or more. Oh, my God, brother market. It's okay. Hospice. Hookers.

10:06 That's it. That's him. You know, I had hospice. He's ever. That might be hard to find. That might be hard to wait. It's just a marketing term. They don't. It's a term they don't actually have to be hot. I'm older. Okay. I mean, can you be missing teeth and still be hot? I think so.

10:28 This is a possibility. Come on. There's there's a certain body. Like if you had a certain type of body that, you know, I think a missing a tube out could be overlooked. I think so I think that most people would probably overlook. So. Okay, you're telling me you could ever look meth now? No, not that's not like I'm missing a means to.

10:46 Definitely. Okay, well, a lot of people are missing key now. 1 or 2. No, I don't mean like with a flipper. Like a a no prosthetic. It's like it's out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So speaking of no damn. Not the rag on other people, but speed. Only people. Um, I've been on the Facebook dating apps. Yeah. She says there is no.

11:11 We're like, the sad, ugly ones could be selected. Not even fat ones. I'm like. Like, I swear to God, this girl, skinny, literally looked like she got hit with the ugly bus. Wow. And I was like, for girls. All like. I'm like, she was a dog. That's what you think. Like, okay, I own this company and that my company has a really good benefit plan.

11:32 They get her in us like a some kind of administrative position or something like that. Get her teeth. You know, like it's going through Facebook dating and providing glow ups. Yeah. Like, no like long term strategy. But I'm talking about long term strategies here. But you know like you groom her from Buckley. Yeah I think that's a that's not the right term to be.

11:55 I don't say she's nothing. Hey, dude. Come on. I don't think grimace the writer. Yeah, but that term is taking on new meaning. Oh, yeah. Unless you're talking about dogs. And I think it's the same term, but. Right, right. I think in terms of like, uh, but from the, the pedophiles now, I mean, I, I don't think I could be getting there.

12:14 That's true, that's true. I mean, if she looks like Sam's dog, we're kicking this bitch. So these dudes. Right? He he's these other through the Kosovo, and there are all these chicks running around with terrible teeth, right? And, um, but beautiful, gorgeous, gorgeous women. And they open their mouths and it's like, oh, yeah. Like, they call them pretty, pretty.

12:34 Yakumo. I said, oh, that's all I told China about this before. And, um, some of them talking about, like, you know, the military has great benefits, so like dental and medical. So, you know, you can you can just grab one and marry them. And then, you know, they you get their two steaks and you gotta you got a ten, you're a perfect ten.

12:50 Like, I mean, I'm guessing it depends on what's going on downstairs. If it's like no one come disease down there either. But yeah. Yeah, but they do medical science. It's medical science does have the whole, you know, refresh that area. You can get a you can get something going on down there where they basically and pretty much that you're coming back from most things besides like Aids or sage.

13:18 The only thing that you can't really get rid of is herpes. And what's really true? Anal awards and herpes. Wow. See, Sean always just takes up a notch. I know, but it's like I'm such a visual person, too. I know he doesn't know what he does for me. I'm sorry. It's like he literally was like me. Like words.

13:37 The Sixers in my mind. So if it's any if it's any consolation, I'm doing the same thing to myself. I'm very visual as well, and I think that's why I go there. I think that's why I go, you're like the honey badger, just like they like immune to vinyl. You're like the track. There was no I mean, Sam, remember a few a few weeks ago when you went too far from me and I just had to stop?

14:01 I don't even think that it happened. I was like, no, I'm not talking about. What are we talking about? I don't ever you they go, you did you would you should keep you should be an empathetic don't you. You did it to me. You did it to me. I know it happened. So because it was like, whoa, he you did it.

14:20 I did so. So sometimes you have a certain friend that you take it too far all the time. And like, over time, you developed a sense of learned helplessness, right? Where it's just you feel it coming. Like I'm just, uh, you just stop for being late for something, or like you have something coming up a timeline, and there's that person that, like, you just can't find a way to to break the conversation with.

14:40 Yeah, like, and they're just holding you fucking hostage. And, and there's like, this ingrained politeness that you were raised with where you just can't be like, I'm sorry. How terrible. I have to go now. There's there's been, like, important things I have been late for because someone I wasn't really that interested in talking to kept talking. Yeah. And it's like, um, it's weird.

15:00 Like, it's a social politeness trumping the the. That's a that's a bad. But, um, you know, overriding, you know, the is something that's genuinely important for you and your health and your life or whatever. I think generally that we're I mean, trumping means the same thing. It just has these extra connotations with it of a it's just taking the word too far.

15:19 Yeah, exactly. It's a short fingered, orange skinned Bulgarian. Now, see that finger shit given. Yes. You know, figured she no fingered ferret wearing shit given. Hey, the ones I liked about the Cheeto divas. I love that Jesus. And I love the, um. There was one I heard the other day that was hilarious. Um. The mango, uh, Mussolini. Oh, wow.

15:41 The mango Mussolini. That's brilliant. And then I heard another brilliant one. It was a the mega like the Make America Great Again people. They call them the mango. The the the the, um, the maggots. Right. And then also, um, Mega now stands for make attorneys give attorneys.

16:00 Pretty. I saw him that I saw an old guy with a hat in Saint Louis. Um, And it was so it was dark blue, like navy blue. And it said. Uh, Make racism wrong again.

16:15 Yeah, yeah. Okay. So we're like, get behind that. Yeah. And then, um, I, I don't know if y'all remember this, but the all this, like, merchandise that was, um, Make America Great Again all made in China. Was it really? That's just amazing. Well, beyond years ago, before he ran for office, um, David Letterman called him out on where his ties and everything were made.

16:37 Could still, he was America, America, America. And and it was. Yeah, it was like, well, they were Thailand and. Yeah. Of course. Right. Wherever the cheapest talent labor. Yeah. And dude, all he did his reply was what?

16:53 I don't think that in my lifetime have has ever heard of someone under more investigations. Yeah. Uh, It was absolutely incredible. Like, he's under so many different investigations and I hope they all come to fruition. What do you do? What's what's out forever? What have you. Oh, yeah.

17:15 What kind of what kind of like cult or or social state. You have to get in when you have 10th May, 15, 20,000 people. All champion. Lock her up. Yeah, that's completely what I heard, that even when it was, you know, when it was the hottest, when it was relevant that the campaign, my jaw dropped. Like, what are they?

17:33 I can't believe they're like, had this group of people collectively saying, send someone to jail like I. And it is because she really there wasn't a lot that you could put somebody in jail for that she did. Yeah. Well, from what I understand, it was like everything that she did was investigated. Yeah. And there, you know, even the FBI was like, there's not enough, you know, full, full evidence here.

17:55 Yeah. They claims no wrongdoing. Like just fucked up, but, you know. Sure. Yeah. A mistake is one thing. It's only to jail is another. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I, I've, um, let's go back to and Biden. I go to third party and all the other elections always. And um, during the Clinton Trump election, I voted third party. I voted libertarian, even though not a libertarian.

18:16 All I just couldn't stomach either of those two candidates. I couldn't stay her smug ass since I can't stand her. Can't stand him, I couldn't either. Um, We need Vermes. Afraid we had them. Spring. Sam. Sam. Did you? Not him. Like you like my brand today. Sorry. He's gonna. He's gonna. He's gonna overwhelm you. Now. I like to wake up in the morning.

18:39 My beer's gone. I'm like, dude, seriously, he's got it. So. Hey, man, in the Twilight zone, I couldn't I could not wrangle the felonious beard like you do. Yeah. I mean, we get into a trouble. If I had a felonious beard, it's hard to keep this thing for getting them longer. Yeah. You're, like, fighting Dark Vader. Like you look down, your hand has the glove on it becoming dead man.

19:01 There's every day like my beer is like picking my nose and, like, give me the middle finger. And I'm like, dude, stop. Yeah, yeah. This hitting go so far as to, like, harass women on your back. You tries to like boda boda. Yeah. Me a beard, sexually harassing women all the time. You're like you and something. It's over there rubbing her shoulders.

19:18 It's like, oh my, I never do that. Hey, baby, got a mind of its own. Yeah. So.

19:28 Yeah. Watch while you're while you're like in bed or whatever. It's sitting there fighting with the chest hair. Oh, dude, that's like settling while you're fighting with the family for, like, my gallbladder getting removed. I got, like, four scars. Like. Yeah, my beard. Got a sword fight. Beard one, beard one. And once it cut the beard and it grabbed the scissors.

19:49 Yeah, I ain't no motherfucker. My last period, he was an asshole.

19:56 Oh the beards. That's generational. Yeah, yeah. So that's it. You have. You have to break the cycle of generational crime and poverty with your beard, right? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. It's up one morning, completely clean shaven, the beard out of family ringing.

20:14 Like, where's my father? You're all coming back to kick your ass. Oh, dude. No. My worst nightmare ever is waking up clean shaven. I have no chin. I will pick Mitch McConnell. I've actually. Wow. Seek the beard. But I know that's what I'm saying, because you look, all of you right now. Then, Mr. O'Connell, though back in college, Sean has this, like, really amazing beard.

20:35 Blackbeard. But it was like, you think Nick beards kind of whack. This was majestic. It was masked out. But Jessica's book, so he's caught mapping out there like so. One day we're in like, uh, Louisville and like, hacker fiction and like, our buddy films like Talking Smack. And I think we're trying to get somebody to go to the store to get pizza.

21:01 And I was like, what do I say? I was like, I vote the power of Sean. That's it. Yep. I invoked the power of Sean's net bid. Yeah. Carry through. Oh, yeah. He went and got his pizza. Yeah. Not the deck beard, but the guy that's scary that the neck beard doesn't do the neck beer doesn't do anything.

21:19 It's. It sets. Yes. The neck beard sits upon its throne. You know, that's all it does. I love you, I love the idea of, like, a male groomed beard. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Someone walking around it, it's like half a mustache. It's just. You can't remember that soap, the whole thing. That's what we're very bomb.

21:38 Because, uh, my dog likes to lick the beard bomb on my beard. And literally, it's like a squirrel crawling my beard and the beard angles because I wake up my beard like, oh, I'm like crazy. Oh, shit. It's like my beard. I'm like, dude, you go to truck. It's like, what the hell appeared as a toad? But yeah, a lot like my dogs.

21:59 That's why I like. Nah, man. Because, like, that's what I get drunk, I pass out, I wake up, my dog is licking my face, and I'm like, that is fucking disgusting. There are just no rules. There are no boundaries with this beer. Yeah, it plays by its own rules, and it takes far more risks than you're going to take, right?

22:14 This is a great forum for you to hone your standup routine, I think. Right.

22:22 You know, the beard just is all kinds of risk taking, you know? My gosh, if you ever dare pass out what it's going to do to you. Oh, I know all kinds of terrible things. Don't don't ever have a Sharpie close to your beard. Oh, no. I mean, you might want to get it down on me. Festive, man.

22:37 I mean, yeah, let's dive down there.

22:42 The beard likes getting wet. Yeah, like we won't scored a beard. Rides. I did not say that.

22:49 Oh, dude, you should totally learn some form of ventriloquism. Oh, dude, I thought that was thing the beards, like, moving the one of my jokes. I'm a true because, dummy. My beard got his fucking head up my ass.

23:03 You got a hair up your eyes? Literally. Yeah, the wild ass. I've literally got a wild hair. Oh, how long could it actually grow? Do you think there's a limit, or does it kind of like start to break good ends or whatever? After a certain way? I just let it grow. I figure once I could tuck it down in my nuts.

23:21 I'll just get this long enough to tuck it in your fucking pants. Yeah, yeah, just warm your balls. Yeah, yeah, I like it, you know? Ever braided it or tried to put some kind of like, I put it in a ponytail when I'm doing my rugs because, uh, dude almost got caught up in there. The other day, he showed me a video where the guy had written a certain machinery, got hit, get ripped.

23:43 It got his beard ripped off his face by a power girl. Yikes. At that point, it's like if he's chunk chunks. Oh, the flesh and hair just rips up. Oh, I've been on this, like, comic strip. Things where I've been, like, drawing a lot lately because I miss drawing. So I've been drawing a lot of stuff. And so one of the new characters I came up with last night was the beard, and me and my beard will, like, detach itself and do crazy shit.

24:12 And so like, that's one of the things I've been drawn. But here's one of my latest comics. I do like a middle finger. You have to send this to us so that we can include it with the extras in the podcast.

24:27 And then, uh, my friend works like, likes pickles. So I always do like, pickle puns, and I kind of pick up puns and I just do like pickle comics. And then I put this is like you said, about lean, and dude's like, no, but your pickle. It's like this pickles. Like a.

24:46 Pickle. But, uh, I really like. Oh, she looks happy. And now she looks like she must be getting some shit done. This is what I did for at this book. Four and 26 to draw. Mile high and whatever you think I said, or whatever. And one of them was crazy straw. So I drew this picture.

25:08 Nice. I mean, it's a crazy straw. Absolutely. Just to summarize it for whiskers. How many, how many holes? Straw hat. Two. Two. Sorry. That, uh, cocaine. Robin. Bang. Jumping airplane turtle. You know, normal day for sure. I mean, okay, turtle shaking is very important. No. Yeah. A turtle shaking is very important in the life of a straw. Yeah, it's it's kind of like the way.

25:32 Okay, that's how you get immortalized in the straw. Exactly. I mean, if you're plastic straw skies. Yeah, that's the thing. The patch you went in there. Oh, three years a year. Islands. Yeah. Pick your, you know, like my islands. Milton's island. Which garbage? Which ocean? Garbage patch. You want to retire I love it. That could have been an insult to to Irish people and Asians pick my Ireland when we're talking about island, I know, right?

26:00 Well insult people draw has two holes are.

26:05 What them in the top right. So one continuous hole or is it actually she that's what she said. Well okay. It's two entry points two points of ingress I can come into the two holes at the same time. I can write. Nice. So, so if you cut it, if you take out a drill bit and you cut a hole through a board, right.

26:30 How many holes is it? I mean, it's technically one hole, but if you were it depends on your vantage point. If you're looking at the draw. I'm totally true for that with this question. Well, I mean, I explain, I want to hear in my personal viewpoint here, I consider it two holes because it's two points of ingress. I can come into the into the autumn.

26:51 That's a hole on a piece of paper. Yeah. One hole in one hole. Why? Because the paper has has two dimensions. You're right, you're right, you're right. It might be, uh, 5007. So even if it's even if we have S1 and Z, we still have. Yeah, we still have one hole, your straw. Because we have K now. Now I got it down.

27:12 Just so like you saying, you take a hole punch and you punch a hole on a piece of paper, that's one hole. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. I'm agreeing with you. Now, even if we have x, Y and Z, it is just one hole. You're right. Okay, but maybe now. Okay. So hold on, hold on. So how many how many holes does a cup have at?

27:29 I don't know, I'm guessing a cup has one hole.

27:36 So now you're back to head saying the only bottom though. So now you're saying. But it's not a hole. There's no holder. It's a hole. Oh, it's got the depression. It's a depression. But a hole is all the way through. Right. This is a way to say I'm very depressed. I'm in a hole. Oh, here's one of the best.

27:55 You know, Sam has won this debate through semantics and social engineering.

28:04 And delirium. Delirium. Do you guys want to know the answer to how many holes am us? The answer is he gives a fuck. Let's see. Well, you know, I will argue. You really give a fuck if you're about to fuck how many holes are available? Just say that. Is that is that is that is a yes. That's the scientific and mathematical no.

28:27 Yes. In which you literally dead in the eye and says pick a hole. That's that's that's the ideal a key. Best in that's pick p I see K not pickle as per your guards pickle is it. Oh no it is, it is. Oh well she she really a keeper when she says pickle a hole. So there was this a there was this, there's this tramp that my, uh, my wife was uh, um, reported that one of these companies that she worked for and, um, she was like, screwing the upper managers, upper managers and stuff.

28:56 She was like, you know, get passed around the office type thing, and, um, I don't she'll she'll never hear this vodka, I'm sure. So, like, her name was Colt. I don't need to drop her last name. That would be so behind her back. Not talking about, you know, that's a cold and I know. Right? Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but actually, I am the Nicole that is summer's best friend.

29:17 Definitely not talking about you. Y'all knowing Nicole some conspiracy. So, anyway, um, as a joke behind her back, we called her a hole. Nicole. I'll say I heard this story before. Yeah, I told it to you. My stories repeat. I guess it's okay. My not. Yeah, it's good because I totally forgot about it. Yeah, I have a non repeatable story that's.

29:37 I've never told y'all before. It's. Oh, God. Oh I was like maybe 27 ish. Right. And um, I had had recently got a pretty big paycheck from one of the jobs that one of like the gig job that I did doing the computer programing he made, like this really cool database website type thing and, um, got a pretty, pretty decent sized paycheck.

29:56 And I was like, you know what? I need to upgrade my computers. And so I had three computers at the time. I went out and bought three brand new state of the art that's the best in the business kind of computers for my little office that I had set up. And what happened was, is that some of the younger boys in the neighborhood, you know, they were always out.

30:13 I was living in a cul de sac, so they're always outside play. And we all knew each other and knew all the all the neighbors knew each other. It was like one of those, like, cozy, right? Really, um, tight kind of clothes. Yeah, that was great. And it was great. And the kids were all like, uh, cool kids, you know what I mean?

30:29 And, um, they're there. They come over, want to use my computers because they had all the state of their graphics cards and all, you know, latest games and stuff, but that were actually would play well on, on the, on the computers. And so it was like when quake I think it was quake three. Oh summer around that time was was hot and I had the, um, best high speed networking, you know, of the time as well.

30:53 And so the game played so like and smooth for for did you do like little land party. Yeah. And see 250 modem. Yeah. Whatever it was. Yeah. That's I know it was cable modem at times but still um, these were networked really. Well they're all in the same hub. It was like, not even a far, you know, everything was.

31:11 Everything was tuned pretty well. He was to say the game played so, so fucking sweet, right? So it was like great to have these, like, head to head battles and um, so hours and hours would go by and play this game and um, so that's they're in like code all day and work whatever. And like invariably maybe like every other day the doorbell rang, you know, hey, can we come in and play some play.

31:31 Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. And, um, he, I was, I was the dominant by far. He was like, you know, not only did I have more gaming hours under my belt throughout my lifetime, but like, I was always good at shooter, you know. Yeah. And so, um, they would they would team up on me and see if they could take me down.

31:46 I was no way like they gave me every down then. But, you know, overall I was like dominant force. In a long story short, one day my my father's there and, um, we're all sitting there playing this game, and all of a sudden the doorbell rings and on, my father goes to the door to his package. So he takes a package inside, takes his little pocket knife out, opens up the package.

32:07 It's all these popcorn peanuts. He worked for bass at the time. He was expecting this, uh, this this thing that he was taking on to one of the job sites. Like he was expecting this little mechanical pump, um, for for pumping dies and paper. Paper coloring. Oh, cool. They said he's expecting this little pump that, like, has a really precise, um, like, how much flow regulator on it.

32:29 And so, um, he just took the package that that's what he thought it was. He opened it up. It was all these popcorn peanuts. He starts sifting through it. He pulls out this huge ass dildo watch. Right. Huge, huge. It's like a mag light. Like. Like. Yeah, yeah, this this was like, you know, who needs a man type?

32:45 You know, this thing was this thing was this was a this was a killer. Yeah. Anyway, so I had to rearrange your guts. So he's like, what? I reread your guts. He's like, what the fuck is this? Right? And, um, he's. He thought immediately that the guys at the office were playing a joke on it. Yeah, right. He's like, oh, man, those those assholes.

33:05 And then, um, one of the boys, he was like, you know, 17, 18 year old kid. His name was Jerry. He looks back and sees this thing. He's like, what the hell is that, Mr. Tight? No. And, um, that is like, I don't know. It's it's a it's a it's a it's a joke, I guess in the guys at the office, whatever, they looks at the label on the thing.

33:23 And the package was for the neighbor. Uh Oh.

33:27 Right. Take it over. Well, so he's like, oh, shit. You know, like, I just opened the neighbor's mail. You know, it's it's totally obviously, like pure accident. It was no malice or whatever. You guys have me packing tape to put this bitch back. Yes, but but it wasn't the cat out of the bag. It was the. It was the pickles out of the out of the jar or whatever I saw at that point, because that kid had seen this and then knew and then sees mom's package.

33:52 No no no no no. Okay. No, no, I was about to be out, but there was a reason why I told you the whole cul de sac was tight knit because everybody knew everybody. Yeah. And so the kid figured out really quickly based on the context of the conversation, who it was for. Oh, and he's like, oh, I gotta go.

34:08 And my father was like, don't you dare say a work like this. This never happened. Don't you dare say anything. Well, that was doomed from the beginning. Well, yeah. And so his name was Jerry, and he was a troublemaker. Loud mouth anyway. Right? There was no chance in hell he was going to keep his mouth. So my dad, like, repackaging everything and put some clear tape on it.

34:28 It was beautiful. It looked like it was never touched. He brought it over, put it in the door, like opened the door, put it in the door. Right. It was like nothing to see here. Well the, the that boy hadn't really gone and told every kid in the fucking neighborhood, right. And he said. He said that Carl's mom bought it.

34:45 Said bought a dick Hurrell. Carl's mom bought a dick. Anyway, so some time goes by because it was like, you know, everyone's gone at work for the day type thing. And, um, so a couple hours go by, he thought the whole thing had blown over, right? Hell no. Yeah. They come home, all the neighbors are talking back and forth like what's going on?

35:04 And then her and her husband who see on, say, whatever he was, or going door to door around the neighborhood, like explaining to people I don't know what like saying like basically was it's a, it's a, it's, it's for a friend, you know what I mean. It's it's just it's for a friend. It's a joke. We're just holding on to it for a friend.

35:23 Yeah. We're hoping for a friend. Say we're trying to save face because they knew that the kids had already spread all the all the all the words over. I don't I think I would have just not done that. I would have not gone to the door. You just suck it up totally. Like, do you? I'm here for a donkey show.

35:37 Yeah, exactly. That's pretty much was with the size of the same dude. So side hustles, you know. So anyway, then now they come over to the house, they say it's. So now they come over to our house. Right? And the timing was perfect because the girl I was dating, the time had come over just at that time. And I briefed her really quick on what had happened.

35:57 I was like, my face was red. I have two stupid on my eyes because I'm laughing so hard I can't help myself. Right? Dude, I would have gone door to door and said, I'm starting a dildo rental service. Anybody want to sign up? I can hook you up, right? Yeah. Nondescript. How does like for the neighbor's lawnmower out of the hood.

36:16 It'll feel like a little hanger. The leash. It's like, got a stiff, and then you give it a little legs, like pipe cleaner legs.

36:27 We should do that anyway. Yeah. What do you name it? Damn, that's so money. Your face is changing. Ask that question immediately. Went to sock, cause that's important. It was a good name. Yeah, it's very weird. Wheels are turning. Yeah.

36:45 So we don't have this capability yet, but it'd be cool on the website to have a contest end. To name this, to name the pet that you walk around to pet. Don't know that you walk around without initially reveal the final name. Yeah. The winner gets gets the sun prize. Yeah, the winner gets the dildo. Well, I have to make some phone calls, I think.

37:04 I think be hard to obtain at this point. Okay? I can't afford to be.

37:11 It's like pick up only. Yeah. You can't ship that with batteries. Pick up only. And it might be team lift. See?

37:21 That's awesome. Team oh wow. Comes created all right. Tied to its own pallet. No, it's in a cage.

37:33 You know it's arrived because outside here. Yeah. Like because holes in that thing I think starlings.

37:45 So funny. It's it's been it's been it's been like even though it was overnighted it probably needs to really go. I need to walk around the neighborhood so they can get aired out. You bring a full sized garbage bag to pick up the pick up the waste. So damn, it's a it's a big. And I'm sorry, darling, darling.

38:02 So I'll finish the story. Right? I'll finish the story. So, um, she basically this this lady, her husband and, you know, um, a couple of the kids of the neighborhood were there, and then one of her sons were youngest son comes up and, um, it comes in the house as well. And my father is denying up and down that he did anything wrong.

38:28 Like, he's like, no, no, I didn't open it. He's lying through his teeth, right? Say no, no, no, I never opened it. I don't know what was in there. You're like totally. The word was already out. So like, it was a flavor wide. Everybody knew it. He was just trying to do whatever he could to save face. You know, he's like, no, no, no, no, I didn't open it, blah blah blah.

38:44 Right. And uh, in the middle of, of of lying about it, one of the boys comes in and says, mom or whatever sites he says, Dante said that he bought a fake dick.

39:00 That's so funny. And I was in the kitchen, heard that. And only the only thing that broke the silence was my howling locker as I went from the kitchen into the into the garage. When my girlfriend was we were sitting there, the garage door was open. We're sitting there. I mean, how laughing. We couldn't contain ourselves or like, we got to get the fuck out of here.

39:19 Well, this this. You're never going to believe this part of the story. These. These motherfuckers called the cops? No. Yes. For, like, mail, for tampering with their mail we delivered to my house. Totally. Totally. Right. And there was no charges in the cops. Like, so, so, so, like, literally as my girlfriend or the town know about it. Yeah, exactly.

39:41 You just had to explain it and put it on a police report, right? That you bought Rambo and and that you're empty like a mayonnaise jar inside. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so literally, we're driving out of the neighborhood and two cops, cop cars come in the neighborhood with their lights on, right? And I was like, oh, they're going to arrest my dad for, you know, for for dildos, right.

40:00 And no, no, we were laughing about that too. I mean, he just put his hands on its.

40:08 From the outer packaging. It's like it was not like I was like, oh, let me open it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway, um, so we were joking our asses off about like, dude, arrest me. Unless my old man for, you know, for for mail fraud or whatever, whatever the crime is, you know, um, maybe, like possession of a deadly weapon, I don't know, but we all like y'all.

40:28 All. Y'all get over that. Yeah. So we came back and asked, you know, when we came back, my father was like, you know, those cops came and cops came. We're like, no. Like we couldn't believe it. So we started laughing again. Right? And I'm like, what happened? What did they say? He's like, well, they sent them that. They sent back home.

40:45 They sent the lady and her husband back home so they could talk to me, set up the table and laugh for about 20 minutes about what happened. I remember where.

40:56 To buddy. Like now the whole town knows. Yeah, exactly. They're not. They're gonna tell everybody. Yeah. And it's like, oh, snap does. Now somebody had to feel. Exactly. I'm gonna have to fill out a fucking report on that, right? Like, dude, I wonder if I had to get the measurements of said, oh, they should have. Yes, but it should have.

41:14 Yes. It's like, um, it's like four inches, like lights. Like, what is the least the size of a small baby alligator?

41:27 This thing, this thing could easily help you seen. Have you seen that guy that has the the.

41:35 What are those dogs called? Wiener dogs? No, the dogs that. Like the people. Dogs or whatever. If a weird. Oh, furry type. Know the people that like for people with PTSD. Oh, emotional. What's this guy's emotional support? Alligator. What it takes that fucker swimming and swimming pools with little kids. That's a horrible. Yeah, that's fucking all. That. Seems like bending the rules.

42:01 Damn, that sounds like something you would do for laughs. Yes. I was not included. But still somebody comes out with that nine millimeter. Just. Just shoots the alligator. Because I'm dreading the kids, right? No. You know, it's like, dude, blue kids are playing with, like, it's a doll. No. Yeah. In a pool. Wow. Why? Why do you, like, you know, human beings through through our development and our, you know, land use and stuff that designated all these different species.

42:26 Why do we have to, like, fuck with animals at this level? Yeah. Why does not use the word animals? Like he will come back and the dinosaur. Yeah, that's why the fuck are it? Has the brain the size of a poker chips. It then doesn't is not thinking. That's a kid. The last people are trying to enslave dinosaurs.

42:43 Their whole species is gone. Yeah. Yeah, right. We don't have any of those dinosaur riding motherfucker. They're all dead animal.

42:55 Was like, oh, you're like, never again. Yeah, yeah. Never again. Well, I let you in big dominate me. I was at a museum and I will not mention the name in this case. I was at a museum with your sinuses, and the girl I was with asked me. She was like, could you imagine having to having to deal with those things?

43:13 She thought they were contemporary semen banks. She thought that, yeah, there was an overlap between humans and dinosaurs. So, uh, so there in one passage in the Bible that may have you believe such thing, one passage. Well, there's passage in the Bible that I believe you all are. Well, yeah, yeah, but I'm trying to say maybe that's where she did it.

43:31 Yeah, the same person thought that. Like, if a pregnant lady smoked cigarettes, the womb filled up with smoke. Yeah. As if it was like a balloon or something. Like you're gonna box your baby by smoke. Wow. You just gave Sam all kinds of was. So the the beer. Just heard that? Yeah. The beer that's fucked up. That that feels good to be doing some shit now, but beers gotta pay the lady finish now.

44:00 Bad beer. You got a Cesar Millan it? Yeah. Like carving. Yeah. He looks in the corner of the room and the beard has a hookah. Pipe up some some pregnant ladies. Cooch China outbox the baby. Oh, my God, this spirit is all kinds of feeding. It is beautiful. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm beers fans. The beards like a red motherfucker.

44:28 You should have known. Yeah. Haven't you ever heard of Red deer? Did it? I mean, that's what we kind of joke is. He's like the red beard. Belmont. It's our soul is ginger beard. You know, ginger beard almost sounds like gingerbread, I like it. Oh, sorry. It's gotta. But I like how Red beard invokes is a whole pirate thing.

44:48 I could see Sam and had beard being copilots. Oh, it ties into the no rules, you know, theme near. Yeah. It does. I'd like to see, um, you know, you can't really separate. It's like those, um. You ever seen those? Those twins? Not twins. They're like Siamese twins or whatever you call it. The conjoined twins. And they're like it.

45:09 The they're both alive. And it's a teacher that the terminology is so fucking hard here. It's like they they are a teacher or those two people I ah, teacher, they, they teach like a high school. That's crazy. Or middle school or high school once. Teacher. Old stripper.

45:28 Well, it's hard out there. So that is something interesting. If if there is a crime, commit like, say one of them's asleep and the other one like, does online identity theft, fraud or some shit, right? There's like, can you send it to jail? Can you send the money? My beard. The same problem. That's okay. So you just saw where I was going?

45:47 Well that's right. So if the beard is out committing all these her. That's what I'm saying. You guys are like conjoined twins. Yeah, but are we though. Yeah. So, you know, could could the beard actually face jail time? I mean, it's just not fair to you. They did try and put a in my last year. Yeah. Did they, did they rule.

46:06 Just doesn't make sense. No. He's a jail. No okay. Well that's right, that's right. Oh this is the perfect crime because the beard can just go off and do all the shit. And he did seal time. Just grow a new one. Yes, guys. Nice endless and endless spree. But it's very sad period at that time, without a beard.

46:24 It's like. So here's the question. Is, has a good beard ever grown in like one? Now that all have the same, they all felonious, all cut from the same cloth. No you're there. It's like. It's like they have a bad father or something. I don't know what the deal is. The follicle is something to do with the follicles I have to follow.

46:41 Yeah, like he says, they're all cut from the same follicle. Wow. Yeah, yeah. The strings don't fall far from the tree, but the strands don't fall far from the wig. I don't know, what do you say? Plus the the, um, you know, any early age, they're they're like the guy in the dating with a, you know, that's it, that's it.

47:03 You've involved them and a lot of activities in their early age. You know, anything from beard riding to smoking weed. Yeah. You're right. Weed, smoke, vomit and all the terrible language that comes out of the mouth. And that's true. False hits and ideas. If they if they don't see the sport at all, the witness to everything that happens despite you don't think that's nothing like it's on.

47:27 So like the children also like bonds cause you're constantly, you know, putting. Yeah yeah, yeah. And I'll use like the rubber band thing. It's like you just tie a knot please. I'm like, no, I'm in a hurry. I gotta do stuff. Yeah. So my period likes to be tied on the extra mile. So there's, there's multiple levels of abuse, neglect and, uh, yeah, my period has a safe way, I think.

47:48 Just hasn't told me. Here. That's not on the door. We got a call. We're gonna have to separate you in your beard, sir. Fell asleep with the cell phone. Too close to the dude. Yeah. Call.

48:08 It's like I'm a young beard. I've only been around for a year and a half. Like. Man, last time I went to confession, my beard was in there for a long time. Damn, damn, damn. And really, which crimes does it confess to? Yours? And it's. The preacher's beard was jerking off. Wow. Way to go, Sean. He. Yeah.

48:33 Yeah. Thank you. That was good. Damn. The one year old beer has granted it because it's been so traumatized. So, like your dear.

48:47 Bearded PTSD. Beautiful boy. That's well done. The beard's in therapy. Wow. Well, it's like, where do we start? Tell me about your parents. Oh, my God, I don't know who my mommy, but my daddy. Oh, my God, I done mini mommy's rolly. Say, never stay for more than a night. I don't know what I came out of, but they all keep trying to put me back in it.

49:14 He's always trying to stop me in there. I don't want to go back. I don't like third tight spaces.

49:24 It's like they try water board, water it big. Wow. That's good. That's that's awesome. The tip of the beard is. I don't know what you're talking about. It stinks. Yeah. The beard is like, you know, I don't know what experience you're having, but I always get getting. No. No place. Wow.

49:45 I saw a piece of corn and a peanut. It was tasty.

49:53 I didn't want to eat it, but it was so good. Oh, speaking of beard like, exude that beard. Love that Dave's hot chicken Laughs right. Yesterday okay so we're sponsored by Dave's Hot Chicken y'all right over there. Yep sponsored by Dave's Hot Chicken. We're just um, days of chicken is the best fried chicken I have ever had. Preferred by more beers.

50:14 Now, will spicy chicken. And it's preferred by nine out of ten beards. Oh, yeah. More beards. It's a 9.5 beard. Messages beard. Oh, yeah. It was a 17 napkin sandwich, y'all. Yes, but it was so. Yeah. Awesome.

50:34 Maybe we'll get a free sandwich out of this. I know, I know, they start asking for this, that stop me. Like, you know, I'm like, no, no, but we do not like being associated. We don't want that beard. So it was. They were like, no, I think Davis hot chicken would be down. We went through yesterday. Right. I wouldn't mind like some kind of lawsuit like to to like the good restaurant or the, like a gas station or something where you just get, like the product for free for the gentleman's car here.

51:11 What bird thought of that one? Okay. You want me to relay that? Yeah. Can you imagine getting the gentleman's club products? Springs? I mean, you get a free buffet. You know, at least I like the idea of, like, you know, you're busting your ass, working hard, trying to make ends meet, trying to put together a good life or whatever.

51:25 But the beard, like, has the mind of its own, and it's like taking you with with it, like almost like a Weekend at Bernie's thing. So like, you're sleeping unconscious and the beards that doing all this crazy shit. Well, like this for years, ragged racks have their toys. Yeah, yeah. You're attached. You're conjoined twins. And he's got all serious chin.

51:44 There's a certain, like, realistic. Like, in all seriousness, there's a certain interesting legal kind of thing there you can imagine. Dana. Conjoined twin. Yeah, one of the conjoined twins. Then something fucked up like, let's say, pulls out a gun. Yes. Just just fucking greasing somebody. I mean, is it fair to put the other half in jail, or what if one decides to rob a bank and the other one didn't agree on what I'm saying there?

52:09 Like there's like a dominant one in most of the time. Like one of them's is stronger number two. So if you were to have a a sexual. Yeah. Conquest, would it be a threesome or two? Assam I would say like since they have their own name and identity if you just two legs of it. Yeah. I mean I think he's got the whole thing is well he, he holds his head and joins him in the house.

52:34 Then how they're concerned. It depends how they can do it. Right. There's the ultimate question. Right. What do they share is the question. And so could one of them claim. Right. In age of me two. They definitely.

52:54 Wish. Is this all you could tell us, bro? That was awesome. Yeah, I didn't mean that as a joke. Could join twin as part of the MeToo movement with working about. Oh damn damn, I totally didn't mean to go there. Then they go to the bathroom. It's a meeting movement. Oh, yeah. It me one orbit. Do they get sick of smelly farts?

53:14 Yes, yes. Well, and I'm sure they have moments where they like. And I bet they know what you want to rip themselves away from you. I know, I bet they know who's branded is too. Like that was your motherfucking part. You know, there's just so much questions. There's, um, in, you know, this is a great thing to joke about, but but, like, gosh, you imagine being, oh, we should get join twins, Satanists and.

53:43 This is possibly pedestrian, not Howard Stern. I mean, no no, no. Yeah, yeah, we but we we do want to talk to Satanist. We want to do Satanism. Satanism versus humanism, you know, and we do want to talk to conjoined twins because that's fucking great. Yes. You know, and, uh, shiver midgets. We definitely like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've always wanted a tire to it.

54:07 Sure. People, I would have always, like, wanted to talk to stripper midgets. I have a, I have a midget in one of my classes I'm taking right now, and, um, he's like an over-the-top cool dude. That's cool. And Sue said, well, yeah, they they have to be. Yeah, that's a good thing. I was like, whoa, great point. No wonder I've been saying my whole life to yeah, wow.

54:28 He's probably like, I ain't finished. Cool, man. So like, people with with, um, all kinds of different. You know what? Let's just say, like, you are a one and a 1 to 10, you know, charisma scale. Yeah. I mean, you have to have an angle in some kind, like, you know, anything that puts you really irregular, right? If you're a regular in any way, like a rogue beard, right?

54:49 Yeah. Or even just, uh, like, so you have to make. You can just be like, you have to bet up your hair is.

54:59 Really interesting. So, you know, my whole life, I've been, like, a jokester, you know, like, going around making people laugh. And so I was wondering after that comment was like, what have I been compensated for my whole life? And I know what it is. It's like like a mess. Core level of lack of intelligence is what it comes down to.

55:15 He just like I can say a lot of things that sound smart, but I struggle like I am not a smart guy. Like, but I but I've learned to like, make it make it look good. Whatever. No, I'm just sounds. It sounds bullshit for this, not you. You guys just don't know how much like, okay, once I know something, I know it, but.

55:34 But to get there, it's so hard for me, right? Like new concepts, new things. My whole life has done that way. But then once I get it, I get it. You know, a weird brain that way, right? But, um, but you get there a lot of times this is fucking struggle, right? I failed a lot of classes, and not because, like, I didn't try.

55:50 It's like I couldn't get it the first time that they could again and then get an A right, because it's just like when it clicks, it clicks. But until that time, it's like, wow. Yeah. Oh yeah, I mean, I feel it. I know probably everyone's like that to some degree, but I'm like an extreme case of that he.

56:05 Yeah. I mean, you know, and whenever you made that comment initially, I mean, of course it made me sort of thinking, you know, well, hell and, you know, I, I think for a lot of people, there's a lot of things you are these innate insecurities that you're kind of glossing over or trying to cover up or divert attention from.

56:26 And I mean, I have a few I could sit here. Any people look at my beard, I'm like six feet two, you know, you know, you know. Yeah. I mean, I won't do it here. I don't think it's really made me happy. It's awesome. It's it's great. And so, um, this, this older gentleman that I'm friends with through my novel social.

56:47 Right. He, he told me the other day that technology we're having technology top and, and he said that technology for him and his life experience has been a been a source, a major source of learned helplessness. Um, I never put that together in my mind before. And it was like this huge light came on. I was like, so all these people feel trapped by technology.

57:06 They feel forced into it and unable to do anything. Yes. So like, you know, we all are in technology enough to where it's not it's an enabler. It's an enabler. Right. But but if you're on the other side of that, I, I never I mean I've thought of the around the I haven't thought of it on those specific terms.

57:24 And so when he said it that way, I was like, this light bulb came on was like, Holy shit, that's the holy grail of technology is making it. Not that way. Damn. And and no one's done that. Yeah, right. So it's all about approachability and extensibility. Person can use it. It can discover it and understand it and extend it.

57:45 So the hard time that my stepdad has was, is like smartphone. Yeah, it's he has Parkinson's. And so they don't touch stuff that isn't me too. And they'll get lost me get so angry. Mhm. So his voice activation apps settle him all that they did help him out with take the time and and research it okay. There's all these like voice out assist that you can just talk to you for the phone.

58:07 That's what I do. Mine. Yeah. This is what you do. But I mean if you really research it you'll, you can find like a a 2 or 3, like really top notch apps that they can install that allow the phone to be controlled by voice. Because I went through the same thing with my mother when she was shaking, she couldn't touch the thing, the same thing.

58:23 She was incredibly frustrating because she couldn't she couldn't like, swipe in, couldn't do certain gestures. And then she kept like going back a screen or going to the home screen. And it was like she'd get so excited, man. So I did like voice activation on. It. Always solved the problem. Lies. Yeah, that's the answer. The accessibility. You know, sir, I try that you can really help them out a lot.

58:43 Yeah. But so you can imagine it's like this feeling imagine like an older person who, um, you know, their whole family, let's say, is real tech savvy, and they're at like, change giving or Christmas. Everyone's talking about technology using technology, right? And the kids are on electronics even, and stuff like that. And the older person has no transferable skills, no, no way to connect with the technology that serves as a, as a divide for that person.

59:10 Right. And, um, I've never, never thought of it on those terms of like, helplessness. So, so, um, there's this great psychological experience you take across from of kids and you vitamin to two, like a left and the right hand side. Let's say there's six rows, three rows here, three rows. Right. And they give them this test like it's a simple test on something like a word scramble.

59:31 So, um, the people on this side of the room have like, um, uh, let's say something like, uh, a bet. The word bet right as the first word. And the instruction is, is you have to take the it's an anagram. You have to take that word and rearrange the letters to spell something else. So simply right, they just say tad that and tap right.

59:52 And this side of the room has a word like world as number one, right? So the teacher of the fray of the class and says, all right. Everybody for for the first word, go ahead and and unscramble the word. Make a new word out of it, just a single word. And then raise your hand once you doubt it, once you get to work.

1:00:07 Well, pretty much everybody on this side of the room raises her hands. Very quickly. And on this side of the room, like pretty much no one's raised their head because they. There's no because hell, what is the anagram for world? I don't think there is one. Right. So then question number two is something a little more difficult but also easy to unscramble for this side of the room and not for this side.

1:00:25 Right. Yeah. And then the third word is the same on both tests. But the third word is like relatively difficult to unscramble. It looks on the face of it that that would be like an like world. It's a second group hasn't had the mental practice and success of the two previous task. Right. And now they're also they're also demoralized because everyone on this side of the room has gotten the first two.

1:00:48 Yep, yep. So they're just not even trying. Right. And so they they get to the third word and they say raise your hand once you dot it. And everyone in this side of the room of course raise their hands again. And then like 2 or 3 people on this side of the room out of 20, raise their hand because they've already learned helplessness.

1:01:03 They've now have learned helplessness to this task. They're frustrated. They they they're they're disenfranchized. They have no confidence that lost their confidence that they can do this right. Their peers are all having success. They're unsuccessful. And so on. The third word, even though they have the same, these third word and these people were divided randomly. So it's the same level of intelligence on both sides of the room for the most part.

1:01:22 Right. And then on the third question, the people on this side of the room just have given up. They're given up. And so they just feel like they their confidence is ball and they just don't even try really on the was that's the idea behind in helplessness. It's a conditioned state right. Well you can imagine people in this highly technological world that's just getting more and more interesting.

1:01:43 And like you could imagine them like they're just can't do it. They can't. I start making friends with them and then they they don't have coffee. Yeah. They don't have the confidence. They don't have the mental. Uh, You know, it's like the mental constructs to learn and grow from it. They don't have the base concepts, like when you and I are confronted with these new user interfaces or a new program, we base it on things we already know.

1:02:08 We we explore the file menu, or we explore this or that and they don't have it. Right. Exactly. So there's this like technological learned helplessness that a lot of older people, you know, experience to where they just give up on it. Um, And older people like, will be afraid to just jump in and try something because it like, had a more structured, you know, in a, in a more like analog, um, mechanical world.

1:02:34 Like if you do something wrong in that machine, you can make a big problem, like, you know, like a car, for example, you do something wrong in the car. You can't just try things out while you're driving. Right. But but in like, a virtualized world, it's kind of designed to, like, try out. You really can't break anything. Right.

1:02:49 And then that's I think that's an important thing, the way my father framed up things when I was a kid for computers was he flamed it up as he's like, don't worry about it. We can fix anything. Yeah. You know. Right, right. Like gave you the green light to just do whatever. Yeah. And, I mean, I destroyed and rebuilt that thing 500 times, you know?

1:03:11 But if you didn't have that experience. Yeah, be very hesitant. So there's that too. And then there's like the cumulative effect. So like technology tends to build on um, on things up people already know. So like part of interface design and building is like you build on existing knowledge. So like if everyone knows how to use Google. So if you were going to put a search on a website, make it look sort of like Google, because that's a really shared knowledge.

1:03:33 Well, so a lot of technology is cumulative. It's built on previously acquired and you're drawing which from what you feel is a shared pool of experience as an interface designer. Right. And so then these people that don't have the experience, that's just another realm of being overwhelmed. Right. And this learned helplessness. Right. And so make sure, you know, like, you know, some of these old timers will like, try to pay for everything in cash.

1:03:55 And then, you know, they just get more and more asymmetric to the norms of modern technical society. And they just they give up and then they have to compensate in other ways. Right? They have to find other ways to compensate to, like I said, there's anyone that has any kind of deficiency is then going to try to compensate for in some of the way.

1:04:12 Right. And so like a lot of ways that the these people will do is they'll disassociate with younger people, they'll stop trying and they'll only associate with, with, with like people saying, hey, you're saying problem. Yeah. People with the same learned helplessness. Right. So they have a common, you know, experience that they can draw from, right. That's crazy.

1:04:31 And it's I'm like super tech savvy. We like to think so. And um, there's there's still running around like these really, really young college like first year at high school type of people. They have their own language, dude. But like I don't fully get. Right. And so like, I feel myself maybe creeping that different direction. That's scary for me.

1:04:52 Oh, you want to feel really old gold YouTuber love the top ten music, right? Have no idea what exactly like I know, I know that to listen to classic rock. Yeah, right. Top 40. Like I didn't know this existed. You. He's put Highway to Hell back on. So. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just struck. No, that's. Yeah. Let me go to my musical.

1:05:14 Safe to the jungle. Dude, I was such a fan. When Thor Love and Thunder used a guns N roses stuff as a soundtrack. I was a huge fan. I was like, thank you. Take a look. Thank you. Do you like the rules? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So was somebody one of my friends? Because I should die, I love you, I feel it, but one of the best classical rock, classical rock, um, sounds or songs ever used in a movie was when I saw Ragnarok at the beginning when they played LED Zeppelin.

1:05:52 Oh, yeah. That movie was great from start to finish. So it's a great movie. The Devil's Anus, I mean, a friend of the dog named Amos, I call him the Devil's Amos all the time. If you can't tell, I'm saying answer Anas, if that's the beauty of it. Yeah. Yes, yes. And, you know, we thought about making a glory hole restaurant and calling it the Devil's Anus, right?

1:06:15 You know, I still think we could kind of go all that. It's no dicks, no bigs. No. We promise no dicks. Unless you buy that as an add on, then you can get dicks through there. Certain surfing's restaurants, like where the sanitation score is more important than other themed restaurants like, I'm sorry, a a food glory hole version restaurant.

1:06:37 Better have a fucking 100 squad. You can go in any need. 120. Yeah. Basically you need above 100. You need you need 100 plus the bonus point. Yes. Exactly. Like we're all just to get people in the door. It's like the kitchen's like a clean room. Exactly. It must be like, um, it the the whole entire thing has to be said of moments like that, that show Dexter.

1:07:00 Like when you do somebody with plastic, that's. It has to be like in order for people to want to dine there, like, even think about it. It's like where we go to an Italian restaurant. They offer a tour of Alton. Yeah, I got it. So you serve the food on utensils out of a hole and that's evil. The mouth.

1:07:17 Mhm. And then that whole thing has to be like disposable like wipes. Right. Set for the next. Yeah. We. Aren't you reusing tools. It's like when you go to the nail place and they don't they get the packet of tools out just for you. Right. We get the outrage like that here. But you guys get what I'm saying.

1:07:36 You don't want to be spreading like herpes or his hands, but they use the tools. Huh? I thought they were just sterilize it to us. I sometimes some places have an auto clave and sterilize tools. Other places get these little packs of two Lost Man mail somewhere, but. Well, the whole point is you get your own set. I don't know, you.

1:07:55 You get called out, I mean, here. Do you think I get that pretty nails, bro? Yeah, I chew on them, but yeah, I don't know. Um, I don't know how those cute little get cleaned them in, do they? Do they cute? I fucking chew them all the time, dude. Anyway, so you're you're a real tuer. If you ever in your life that's your own toenails.

1:08:18 Okay, so to call Willow Hooton out.

1:08:23 She chews on her own toenails. Wow. At seven. Wow, I don't know. I've never seen her do it, but her brother swears she does it, and she admits it. Oh, I've told her. And whenever you're about to do it, let me know. I'm going to leave. I'm gonna leave the room. I mean, he should at least get on video first.

1:08:40 I don't know, dude. I don't know if I can put that on videos. I could see the beard wanting to see this. The beard. Once. I want to see this. All right. Any blind next to smell? The next time this happens, I'll give you the video. The beard wants have little stuff. I mean, I think the beard just won't last if beard wants to laugh.

1:08:59 If it also wants to, it wants to. It wants to have some type of interaction with the stuff that gets picked out from under those tennis. Oh, right. Thanks, Sean, bro. Oh, so once you've experienced a certain amount of trauma, this this reverse this this this reverse thing that happens, right? It's like you start to own it. Yeah, I totally get that.

1:09:22 And you can you can use it as a form of identity. Yeah. And a form of empowerment, I think belonging to my personality. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. There's there's this, there's this like feeling. It's like it's like being in a fight and you've been hit so many times and punched so many times. It just can't hurt you anymore.

1:09:42 Yeah. It's like, I don't know if you've ever had that experience, like where you're like, you've been. You've been even punched so many times. You're adrenaline is so high. Like you just can't feel anything anymore. Like you're just fucking no. And you know, you're going to win the fight at that point because that person that you're fighting isn't at that level.

1:09:58 They're defeated. You can see they're defeated because you can't be hurt anymore. Yeah. And there's like totally tons of people that I know and and like, you know, there's tons of people that I know. I don't know if I'm quite there, but I, I know what it's like to feel that way. I've actually let the do push for the face of about ten, 15 times to a point, so I could laugh at them the entire time.

1:10:17 Yeah, we'll send any win the fight just by default because they can't hurt you pretty much. Yeah. Yes, that's a one. How defeated are you as your as the opponent when you've given everything you can like you, you've you punched this person so much. And you, you're tired already punching and you know you know it's 100 solidified in your mind that you can't hurt this person.

1:10:38 You've lost. Yeah. What are you going to do? Muscles run. Yeah.

1:10:44 And I've been in fights before. Well, the battery was sorry to me. That's what. Christmas Eve. Oh, that explains it. The beard is off. Yeah. No, this is before the beard, dude. So I, like, sort of throw off like my bloody eyeball at Christmas. I like women wearing a nice suit. And it was while you were really short.

1:11:06 I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. Never seen you dresses like before. Like. Yeah. There there's um, I think there's a certain degree of people that have experienced a certain amount of light life trauma to wear that's kind of like their mental state. Yeah. Like you just can't hurt anyone. They they they they're, they're they're galvanized against trauma.

1:11:26 Right. And then any trauma that just comes their way, they can just they can just judo it like, like deflected into energy. You know, it's like, yeah I think Sean's almost got me there. It's where I'm not even real ways. It's like there's a part. He says no. And like, ah, it's like, you know, let's say you're in this in any aspect of your life, like, like, um, yeah.

1:11:49 No cash. Your credits for credit cards are maxed out. Like, you can't hurt that person financially at that point. That's true. Like, what's going to happen to it? Yeah. Yeah. We're they're not worried about the credits for. Right? I mean yeah at some point you kind of embrace the defeat of sounds like some what do you do in Russia.

1:12:11 Let's say that like, um, you know, you're, you're homeless and you just like, you're on the street and you have nothing to your name, like you have the clothes on your back, if that. Right. It's like you can only go up. There's a certain point where you're like, you can only go up. Yeah, only go up there. There's just no.

1:12:27 There is no more bottom. Yeah. Where are you waiting with the hostel after dying. Then there's. Really. That's right. Yeah. That's true. And I don't think that you have to revert to like, a pure, don't give a fuck attitude, but I think you can revert to like, nothing. Convert me any more. I t or like extremely empowering or like change my life.

1:12:51 So yeah, you can take a couple attacks that are positive. One is in assumed invincibility, surely. Right. And then another is like you said, well, I'm going to change my life. I'm going to be different. Well, yeah. Whereas like, the existing personality can't hold on anymore. It's like it's the it's been it's been clear from me. So like there's like actual legitimate cognitive and mental opportunity to reinvent and rebirth yourself into something completely different.

1:13:23 Damn. I mean there there's certain like, for example, the military, when they when they bring you into basic training, they strip you of all your identity. Right? Like, yeah, all your clothes, all your, like the beer to be gone, you know, everything. Right. And so that's probably a recruit. Yeah. It's on a separate with its own and decided as a separate.

1:13:45 You guys go to the military under the buddy system.

1:13:49 And the beer is the buddy. Yeah. It just screws. You ever said the right? Yeah. Yeah. The beard's not about to jump on the fucking grenade that comes in the font. Like it's going to push you onto the grenade. Yeah.

1:14:03 Oh, damn. The beard is there. And so, like, in that situation, there's you're stuck like there's nowhere to go. And so, like, you just have to give in to the situation. And so there's a certain degree of like cognitive and mental conditioning that comes with a certain point in your life with a certain set of circumstances. Yeah. Well, so the beard, right.

1:14:24 They go back to the beard be the beard is experience so much trauma like, well eating her toenails can't fucking can't harm it. Yes. So it's going to embrace it. Well think about all I mean like we've said the the list of trauma and it's short like is long. The beard will grab her by the. Wow. Dude. Go ahead and send it, send it, send it, send it to slaughter.

1:14:48 So the beard will grab her by the hair and help her push her down onto the toenail. Saw how the day better bite.

1:14:59 Okay, I'm not even going to make any comments, so. Oh, that's not any kind of way. That way? No, but it's. You just could go so many wrong ways. They don't need to say. Yeah, well, there's an inflatable taco. I think I pretty much seen everything at this point. So. Look, I'm intrigued. Yeah, I know I did. I thought you were gonna.

1:15:21 I really thought for a second he was talking about some you missed in some euphemistic version of Taco. I've never seen a floating taco. I thought you're talking about, like, inflatable hookers. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, I was like, he's talking about a floating vagina of some type. I mean, that's that's pretty impressive. I've never seen that before in my life.

1:15:39 That. That looks like a cellophane wrapped taco floating in the air. It's pretty awesome. If someone were, like, really messed up on drugs, I might screw there. It's like someone got the combination. The right idea to put a balloon and taco together. It's a barcode.

1:15:58 But could you imagine, like certain occupations where you, like, have to really wonder, like, what am I doing with my life? Like Sean and I talked about before, the person that cleans the sex dolls, like after their eased, like there's just really expensive sex dolls, right? Like, what do you mean? Oh, lace, where people Joyce describe. Sure. Like I know there's sex doll.

1:16:19 Yes. It's like, what do you mean? One person being okay to this. So, like, you'll have, like, this Japanese executive, right? That that's, like, married to the job. Okay. It's like no women. Okay. But they'll have, like, this $25,000 full life latex, like different grades of silicone for better for the until not very have a son carrying case and all those kind of stuff.

1:16:42 And they'll have a hotel like all smeared nose though they have a they have a hotel in in a city for business thing. And what somebody will do is they'll warm the doll up and they'll prepare it and have it in the post, ready for the ready for the executive, ready for this guy. The guy will go in and and make love to his sex doll and then, um, finish, you know, and then the person will then take and clean it and get it ready for the next use.

1:17:06 So it's like a business. Yes, it was a service. There's a person whose job it is to clean these. They should get paid for that. I bet you, dude. And so but what I'm saying is there's like, regardless of the pay, there's a certain like there's a certain like moment in that career where you might be like, what am I doing in my life?

1:17:24 But also it's not one of those things where you can just go to Home Depot and be like, I need a sex doll cleaner. Yeah. Yeah, right. Well, yeah. You ain't going to pick up the outside. You're like, or Japanese, right? At home. It's like you go to college. Yeah, go to college, get a degree, pay all those fucking money for degree.

1:17:45 Yeah. And then you become a sex top name. And and here's the thing. This is doing Japan. So these the person who's a sex doll cleaner is probably the world's best sex doll cleaner. Yeah, right. They've dedicated their title World's Best Sex Doll Theater. You know what I'm saying? Top of your game. Like, I feel like what we need to do, guys, is, like, take six months off, apprentice under the sex doll cleaner and just go make some bait.

1:18:08 We should. Yeah. I think was a high demand to buy. Yes, yes, I was imagining like this, this, uh, worker in a in an injection molding, this injection plastic injection molding factory, let's say, in China. Right. And what you're currently working on is, is fake plastic dog shit to be sold in novelty stores in Europe and America, right.

1:18:30 So guilty by saying, yeah, it's always intended before you like. So the mold opens and right and out pops all these plastic molds and like, you're, you're you're eating them. Yeah. You're you're quality control or you're the person that's like, um, has the little air sprayer. Mhm. Right. We're like you're spraying the color onto that highlight. You're just a corn sprayer.

1:18:52 Yeah. Whatever. You have to let it sprayer your ice barrier. Corn you do just before. So you're airbrushing the the highlights onto the the fake plastic dog shit to make it look more realistic. Right, right. And like that's your actual. And you just have to imagine that person sits in the like has this moment where they're like, what the fuck am I doing?

1:19:14 You know what they did? They hung out with someone like Sean and they've they've been down so bad. Wow. They have thousand yards. There isn't a face him anymore. They're like, see the sex dolls while eating pizza? Oh, so. So what made me think of it? Well, maybe think of this is like there's a person who's a person somewhere in a factory.

1:19:37 Yeah, that's another level. Who? Think about the the taco balloon, right? Yeah. It's like there's somebody in a factory somewhere. Like making taco balloons. Yeah. And it's like.

1:19:52 If they're a human being, they have to have some form at some point of like, what am I doing? Like, you know, there's probably somewhere they can still see balloons or look like tacos guarantee and the same I would I would say the same thing for that person. Like so is that a the moment where you'd say what am I.

1:20:10 So so like I even had these moments like, like, you know, I'm programing like my, my 50th query for this fucking database. That's bullshit. Database that's completely screwed up, designed by a bunch of hards. Yep. And I'm writing these, like, stupid queries, but you're doing your little silo piece to get this done, to get paid. And literally thinking like, I'm spray painting dot plastic doctors right now.

1:20:33 Like it's just it's the same thing. This is fucking idiotically pointless. Like nobody should be doing this ever. Okay. But it's not that you're getting paid more than a plastic dog turd dog turds. Well, regardless of the amount of pay, what I'm saying is like, there's there's a certain like, you're right, your time in your life is being spent doing something that you would assume would have some purpose.

1:20:58 We could argue that most of my job right now. Right, right. All of our jobs have this air futility about them. All of our jobs could be boiled down to. Doesn't need to be a job is, you know, it's it's kind of useless. There's a there's this we society. He's a bald to the point to create these useless jobs.

1:21:17 The ones without it. Okay, so I, I don't know what I'll make. I'm not going to ask you what you make, but let me just say that I will pay you $150 an hour, okay? And obviously you're like, wow, that's a great pay. Like I would say, I would do almost any job for $50 an hour. That's great rate of pay.

1:21:32 That's like 300 K a year. Right. So, um, a trick is take the hourly rate, double it, and that's and make it sound. And that's craftsmen living in the South. So he works for 20 bucks an hour, right. Double it. That's 40. Make about 40 crew. It's a kind of general rule of thumb, right. To easily extrapolate how much that is able to sell.

1:21:50 Right? Right. So I'm going to pay you guys and you can work at this job as long as you like. I'm going to pay you each $150 an hour for full time employment at 40 hours a week. Cool. So cheat. Right. And, um, the trick is, is that, like, you don't know what the job is until you until I put you on the job.

1:22:06 Does the job rotate? Will I do various terrible job? Well, let me just want let's just entertain the scenario for a second. And so like start Monday, quit your current job. You start on Monday. Don't even know what it is, but I'm paying 150 bucks. And you agree to it because like, you need the money, right? And so you come over to my house and I have this two dirt piles, right?

1:22:27 And they're like, you know, ten foot tall dirt piles, nice pyramid shaped piles. Okay. And I say, here's your shovel and here's your shovel. What I want you to do is I want you to take that dirt from that pile, shovel by shovel, move it ten feet over here and move the pile ten feet. I've done this right.

1:22:43 Yeah, it's all Sean. Here's your pile, and you move it over here. Ten feet. I've done this before. Yeah. And then so you guys are just sitting there like, you know, singing Slave song, moving the dirt pile. Sounds fun to me, right? You getting paid massively to do it. And then once you move the piles over to here and you're like, okay, we're done.

1:22:58 The fringe benefit is I'm doing it. The low side, I know, so no questions asked. That's just your job right now. I expect a certain amount of performance, I expect a certain rate. And we we talk about that. Like I said, he'd be able to move the pile, like, in half a day or in one full day of performance.

1:23:15 Right, right. And then when you move the pile from point A to point B, you say, okay, what's next? And I say, all I want you to do is move the pile from point A to point A. I watch some lunch, move the pile back. That's all I want you to do. Let's say like, oh, uh, okay. And you move the pile.

1:23:31 Well, you got to know what's happening next, where your next job is going to be. Move about. How long do you think you can do that job? A long time for that much where it's like, okay, so but because I will Barrow. No. Okay. So no innovation. The shovel and the pile, the shovel, the well, what I'm saying is like, you're bringing my own tools.

1:23:52 I know that's the I control the full scenario. Okay. The situation is yes. It didn't pay. And you know, your your, um, you're gonna I think most people would hit play with goals of the pay. The fact that they're doing something so completely, 100% meaningless would overwhelm. Well, my limit is going to be the scribes. My job, I mean.

1:24:14 But. So there'll be a breaking point to where you just can't take that. I don't think the breaking point would be metal. I think the breaking point for me would be physical at that point, because my hand really torn up. I'm going to be a life. I'm not allowed to use gloves I can't bring me like will compensate for the physical aspects.

1:24:30 Like I'll give you love, no sex doll cleaning. No, this is just your job. Mundane doing. I kind of wanted to do. I wanted to play in sets. So, like, I could, I could probably handle a couple weeks of this job, maybe 3 or 4 weeks. I could probably do this for like 3 or 4 weeks. Just just just thinking that I know that it's mindless.

1:24:47 I'm doing it just just to make some quick money that I can get it. But there's no way that I could stay in the job for long term. I couldn't handle the mental aspect of it, because I'd feel like my kind is being spent in my life. Okay, so I've spent lots. I've done lots of jobs for lots of years where you had to just tangle things mentally and do things mentally while you were doing here.

1:25:05 I feel like this, the job that I had now, and I've kind of braced that thing too, like, dude, like there's days where I can't do I get paid to just sit there and wait for an emergency to happen. Wow. And I feel like, draw out a lot more. I'm. Yeah. And so, so, like, after you buy your eight hour shift, you have all your discretion and time, right?

1:25:27 It's like that. Your personal life is your personal life. I own you for eight hours a day, five days a week. Standard. Yeah, I have done this for eight hours a day. Yeah. Dude, that totally give you ideas. Like, think about stuff. I mean, oh, how long do you think the typical person, even at that pay rate, could last in that kind of town?

1:25:43 Dude, I've worked three jobs where I was making $8 an hour, literally. Probably do that for six months, at least in the rain. I did it for. I did it for especially firmly I from years. Joe. I'd probably try and do it for about three years. They almost the worst, right? So eight hours of shoveling for day will be grueling to your body.

1:26:08 No doubt about that. Not only is it grueling physically, you have this like mental fuckery of like doing the same Monday that has no fucking purpose. So if you're also pay me to work out. So I'm getting strong for I mean, you can view it that way, but over time it's going to tear your body down. There's no doubt about it.

1:26:24 You're going to head back there. What I'm saying, I think the breaking point is going to be physical for me. I'm going out of the mental. No, no. Because see, that's the breaking point for me. Well, because your your brain goes off and does other things. You're thinking about all these other things you're doing these other things, you have a rich inner life.

1:26:43 And if you're doing mundane bullshit, it's outer working together. We can do it for like five years. You are like, well, I mean, that's due for free. So, so like no to to to make the scenario more complete, you'd be separated by a two great of a distance to have fun. So I'll leave it. Yeah. All right. There's an isolation.

1:27:06 We'll train carrier pigeons to send messages. You have to have in the isolation factor of like, you know, you're you're you're in your own headspace. Kansas has fallen with a bunch of other people. Sure, sure. Okay, that's all the story for myself. Social isolation is another really heavy component that weighs on you mentally because, uh, the job that I mean, now, because of Covid, they had to work in separate offices, so, like, two people could be in the room.

1:27:29 Yeah. And that shit just drives you crazy. So. So the bottom line of kind of what I'm getting at is like, there's a degree of like, feelings. Allie doing something meaningful or important like that, that it's not just the pay that keeps people motivated and employed at a certain job, right? If they feel like they're working for building towards something that's useful and purposeful and they have like a purpose driven career that will go way further than than how much pay, you know, is the I mean, it absolutely does.

1:27:55 You become way less invested. You're doing the very minimum. You're you're doing the essence of that new movement. Quiet quitting. Yeah, right. I mean, very bad that that's a that's a really interesting you know, that that that's just a flagrant, um, neglect by means that like asleep at the wheel management is the only way that like quiet quitting is possible, right.

1:28:20 Because like, that means your manager has no idea what the fuck you're doing. Yep. Well, I just do your job. I just do it. Not do anything extra. Like. Yeah, that's not how I see. I see it as, like, going out of your way to do so. I feel like those are two different things. I feel like doing your job and nothing extra is that is at your wage.

1:28:39 Right? And then I feel like wedding is another level play quitting. So like you're intentionally doing trying to do nothing. Yeah I can't, I can't. You see how much he had to get away I can't either, I feel like no, no, I couldn't do that. It feels such a deep fraud within myself. Like they're paying me. I should it's like, awesome.

1:29:01 You're that on Abby? Just fucking leave. Yeah, there's plenty of, like, the one thing the military Tommy, was that.

1:29:09 I was obligated for years, regardless of how happy I was. And now, regardless of what goes on in my life, I could quit my job to do something else. I just do it. Just happy here. And what I'm saying, you know what? Like I'm not obligated to be there. But telling you the truth didn't sign a freaking contract.

1:29:25 That's the thing. I think I could do your job. You speak of if you gave me a contract. If you said you'll be done with this in a year, I bust that motherfucker. No, no, no, that that that. Because you have. No, that's not that's gives you that mental hope in the future, right? Right. Like so that's not part of this deal.

1:29:43 Yeah. Right. So I actually work this job. I had this job. Uh, The, like, metaphorically equivalent of this job I worked, um, I was, I think I was 19, I was going to community college, and over the summer I had an internship, quote unquote, or like, you know, summer job as a call at a local factory, paper factory where my when my father had worked.

1:30:06 And, um, what they did was they allowed college students to come in if they had a parent or a relative that worked there, you can get a summer job. No, that paid pretty well. Um, Relatively speaking, it paid paid well. It was like it was geared to give you a nice cashing your pocket to go back to school.

1:30:23 Right? You know, in the, in the fall. And so, anyway, my job was to in the basement of this factory and there was a paper making factory. And so they had like this pulp in um, kind of like some of the waste products would just fill out onto the floor in this basement and this basement, they had these like, um, uh, cement platforms in which these really high powered motors that drove the machines were on.

1:30:46 And so all over this place down there, they had these really high pressure hosts were like fire hoses. They were like these like, uh, hoses that had like a tapered end into them. And they shoot had a really powerful jet of water. And what you do is you go down there and you have to clean up all this, like waste that spilled out onto the floor, and you'd have to spray it into these, like, trough drain that went down the center.

1:31:08 Well. So you'd have to, like, work the work the water and the and the and the debris over to the hole. Wash it all down the hole and put enough water down so it would all go out to the this this other place where they would like, treat it and then like bring it to a waste disposal like either a landfill or they would like, um, put it in a river, like in a nonpolluting.

1:31:30 Well, anyway, so it fills out with grassland and stuff. Yeah. So what they would do is they'd take the water in from the river and then the water they put out their output would be cleaner than what they took it. Right. Okay. And so like they were allowed to do this and then I guess, but I guess one of the writers is okay.

1:31:50 One component they often don't take care of is heat. He waste. Yeah. It's still hot usually. But we're we're talking about like, you know, ways to bend the rules. Yeah. Right. So they, they had this, uh, spill of some kind that was like toxic. And EPA was coming in to what they did was they they had the soil, um, uh, dug up and and moved, and they had new dirt brought in.

1:32:12 So the EPA came in and tested like the new dirt. New dirt that wasn't even. Wow. Well, all kinds of shady shit. But long story short, I was doing the same thing. And that's just like spring a hose wet all day long, soaking wet, wet, wet. You know, you have rubber boots on the still. Like you're gonna saturate it, right, carefully spraying around all these motors.

1:32:36 But it was the same thing over and over and over and over. The wastes would come out. You spray it out, waste come out over here, you'd spray them like it's. It was a functional moving the dirt pile. And I was all by myself. It was like dark and wet down there. Oh, it was like. It's like working in a fucking dungeon.

1:32:53 And, um, I had to find my own special place in my mind to make that to to to make that real. What we're all talking about. I like, play games in my mind. Yeah, yeah. And that's what we're saying. That's what lets you survive. It's almost like. It's almost like being in solitary. I think what comes to mind is Nelson Mandela and for, you know, 30 years it was living in the house by yourself through the pandemic.

1:33:17 Yeah. Well, dude. Yeah. I mean, if I was in some kind of confinement situation, as long as I had some kind of way to, like, write or to, you know, draw or do something, I couldn't just be like, have nothing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a I gotta. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I was wanting to say one more thing is that, um, now equate this back to this idea of word helplessness and equate this back to this idea of the technology divide and this idea of people that, um, if you look at the modern statistics on how much time Abel spent on screen time doing things like TikTok and YouTube videos and

1:33:53 mining this stuff, is that you have the functional equivalent in people's cognitive space of moving the dirt file. No meaningful purpose, right? And so people are actually, in the modern era through technology, have actually learned, have a degree of learned helplessness to where they've regressed to mentally moving a dirt pile back and forth all day long. That's to have the point of wireless OS is that there's this, like modern feeling that I get from society at large, where a majority of people feel like they have this sense of learned helplessness to where everything is too big, climate change too big.

1:34:33 What can I fucking do? Right? Right. Like threat of nuclear war, you know, like, you name it. All these big global problems. Right? And the learned helplessness, which has brought people to this point where you're now just moving the dirt pile cognitively from point A to point B with their discretion. And there's various gradations of that, like the person who is, uh, you know, like, it worked this guy was talking about feels like he's stuck in spreadsheets all day and he's just yeah, he's pushing these columns of numbers and letters and and all these things around, you know, it's like.

1:35:12 And yeah, some of it in disassociated from like the endpoint. Yeah. Like he doesn't get to see the finish. You know he just was not that sense of yeah. Yeah. He just pushes these things around. And he doesn't have any sense of being able to automate it. He doesn't have any sense of being able to create pivot tables or any of these other things.

1:35:29 Yeah. So it would help him. So if we separate the the concept conceptual on idea work like labor for money. Right. And we separate all things out and just look at it as far as like transactional human actions where he what I think that we're seeing through modern technology is we're seeing in the modern society as it stands right now, is we're seeing a collective learned helplessness with people that are just stuck in a, in a rotation of, of basically the output, zero tangible, um, productive output.

1:36:05 And so, so like in mass you have because because of automation, there's not a demand for meaningful as much meaningful labor. See what I'm saying. Mhm. So anyway the bottom line is that there's this like collective sense of learned helplessness because most people feel this disconnected with the ability that their actions are making positive change in the world.

1:36:27 And so then collectively what you get is just like just people repressing to this idea of moving a dirt pile from a B, and then some point B to point A over and over and over spinning, going nowhere. Yeah, right. And that's like scrolling Facebook or or or or spending six hours a day on TikTok or whatever it is pushing around.

1:36:47 Dead in the spreadsheet. Yeah. With the with the collective net output of that stuff is is zero. Yep. Right. And so I was just telling Sean is that you take away the idea of labor and just look at human time, time, the time that a human being spent doing X, y, z doesn't matter what it is, how much of that is actually tangible production in life versus mindless consumption.

1:37:10 But all of this leaves really enjoyable production versus mindless consumption. That's the that's. But sure, sure. But all of this leaves room for things like the uselessness of the job, you know, leads to act your wage or leads to going ahead and saying, fuck this, I'm quiet quitting because there is all of this. It's all baseless, useless. There's no you're not connected to the means of production or the endpoint.

1:37:37 So I and have like, you know, tried to have a version of a renaissance in my life. So where I'm progressing into a productive mode in most of my daily time. Right, right. Just just for my own, um, setting my own life, like controlling my own life instead of instead of being, um, a mindless consumer. Right? I want to be an active producer of something of tangible value.

1:38:05 Right. That's really hard to do. It is. And it makes you very abnormal. Well, of human activity right now in America at least, is mindless. It puts you outside of the flow of things where you're not consuming the same things as your peers, and you're not able to top with them and connect with them as much. And there's a cost of that.

1:38:22 Yeah, that's why I hear great point.