Sentient Beards, Trans-Trucks & Trauma

0:00 Easy to say. So, there's this funny thing is that he had big, big ass rednecks driving around, right, that are obviously like a Trump flag in the back. You know, I had a glass of the Ford about that deal or whatever, right. And then they have this, like, nut sack hanging off the back of the.

0:16 And, so maybe the joke of the day is that literally they're driving around in a trans truck. Because it wasn't born with that. Where is it born with that? That in the sack? It got bolted on. So, you know, these, like, really ultraconservative, deep country rednecks drive around in a trans truck. I think it's hilarious.

0:34 But, you know, even though I like the hat, I like how it's, like, just rolled out in plain sight. Yeah, yeah. Fuck it. I mean, it is medicine. It's. I could literally go to Virginia and grow plants in my yard. And we're talking about, marijuana for the chemo. So there's kind of like the safety of marijuana being illegal doesn't even exist anymore because it's legal.

0:59 So everywhere else, it. Well, it's it's the isn't all like the laws and stuff all relaxing on it across the board. I mean, it's pretty sure it is like a lot of places. It's just fine now. It's not even, not even like taking you name from large amounts will still for Californians all. Yeah, yeah. It's not decriminalized in a lot of places.

1:18 Some places it is. I mean, dude, they don't want a dump truck coming over the state line or whatever, right? House? I bet you probably. But, I mean, you should be able to easily just carry a pound on you, like, bag a for travel, like one vacation, like make brownies, do what you need to do or at pound or a down.

1:34 I think a co-op is probably pretty good or a half pound, but a fucking pound? That's a lot of pears. Man's not like we're going to go for personal use. Yeah, right. They don't know how heavy your personal use it. So it it's the legs that you're using you see like all right. Yep. Yep. We understand it.

1:57 And you see the people that do like the, stuff for sure is that, you know, it's clothes. So they get like these, like, mattress blower pumps, hook a hose up to it. The hook that hose up to, like, one of the water bottle things you stick it on your head and it blows smoke. And you like you think we saw a video where this guy and his grant is all that?

2:21 All his older uncle who hooked a huge Vietnam era vet. Oh, we're, we're doing this. And they had these shrouds over their homemade helmets to hold all the smoke in, kind of like you do with a gas mask. Oh, that sounds like it could be possibly babies. Yeah, you kind of. You need some oxygen in there somewhere.

2:41 Okay. This makes me. I feel like a little thing. I don't think you'd be able to last a long because all the smoke, I mean, they kicked out pretty quick. They were. And very. Yeah. Pretty much like since then. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The back on ten. On ten. Maybe that's the rule, but I mean dude is an app for that.

3:01 Fair. There's been times we've been gone. I'm like, I'm going to go make one because I know that you do on board. Don't be don't be found that making that big on your head, you know, that's like the new age David Carradine. Oh, my God, I know those are same. So like oh on. I may need an app for that too.

3:21 They need an app for that too. One that like if you if you're found dead in notifies your two, 2 or 3 closest friends. So at a minimum they can come and take pictures before the paramedics are right and get rid all your stuff so your parents will see. Oh man, show did a skit on this back in the day.

3:35 See they take the pictures, but then they put you some clothes on you for and they like I like so I know you might have like a shared size dildo. Exactly. Yeah. And you room. Whatever. So you're all for one. So your friend comes in. They don't want to ask you for this horrendous collection of horn that you want no one to know that you're.

3:55 It still exists. I mean, I'm sure for really thinking stuff. You gotta have your own collection like yours is squirrels and stuff, you know, let's admit it, a dignity in depth app would be wonderful. So, like, your friends can come over and. And not only does the app like, you know, like notify of your death to your closest friends, you know, clean up your whole life and come and clean the scene.

4:14 But it lists like when you when you die, it goes ahead and releases all the information of what your friends need clean up. So like you can be sure that you know, it's called the dignity in that that the dead maybe like we could do like a sendoff thing where like, you get all like, you know how like they had the things where they blow out your Faisal TV, you go over to, like, a plastic bag.

4:33 It does the same thing, like sticky friends, Ed like no pictures. That would be nice. Oh, send the socket. Yeah. Comes with the hugs with the app and in the little sticker says to head in or something. Right? Right. I love it, but the it needs to be the dead app because then you could be you could have it as a verb.

4:49 Did you do. Yeah. No, it's how you do it. Yeah. Did you do it I love it. He did a well. Yeah. He did indeed. So and then also like part of the ad too is like right in your last dying moment, it can help you profess your heart to Jesus just in case. So, like Pascal, they're like Jesus, all Allah, Buddha, they're all government covers them all.

5:12 So the man show back in the day with Adam Carolla in them had a skit on this. And but it was a physical thing. It was like this cleanup crew that would come in and hazmat suits. Oh, it's just I'm not surprised. Get on it because it's a logical. Yeah, it's a logical endpoint of, technology. Yeah. Right.

5:30 It's like digging it in that. I mean, you know, who wants to. Who wants to die like shit in the Bad al? Like what? Like it's like to. Right? Shitting the bed, choking yourself with your own belt. Put it like so it's like is you don't want to be found. But also if you heard how, like, EOD experts view bomb, it's like worse this my problem is not my problem anymore.

5:52 I got it like, what did you did you like most of you matter? Yeah. Are you doing anything that is just a base of your family? True grit and that's what the dignity and death is. You are protecting your reputation and those of your family and friends, right? There's something to it. Like, you know, you die. The dismal.

6:10 You know, they died at 26 year old rock star, and you're immortalized like you never have that picture of you being like, toothless and old and fucking looking horrible, right? It's like there's a certain degree of immortality that come. Yeah. That youthful actually. She's also on Reddit where some guy, computer generated what, like Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, all of, like, it's there.

6:33 Old. Yeah. It was terrible, right? That really they were looking so. Oh, yeah. So to some extent they were gifted by dancer. Young and beautiful. So stupid question. What do you mean by my grandma? Well, we also start a PR firm with this that will continue to market you after death. If you have any marketable things, like like Priscilla Presley did for Elvis, he was a fucking piece of shit.

6:56 But she's managed to make $1 billion empire off his debt. That's not really like what he did. He did it is is did because he died in dignity. We got we got P Diddy did write the P Diddy. What what he did to be that's true remake. That's then capitalize and it's so the family can capitalize on this.

7:17 Yes yes I like it. So so my explosive ordnance story is that, you know, at the station, these guys roll up frantic, you know, I know it's it's been a been an accident. And, this explosive ordnance guy went up to a freaking package, went to a roadside, you know, device thinking it was nothing. Didn't have his armor on.

7:39 I think the size of this blasted armor would have saved them anyway. And he came. His body came to us in three separate bags. Right? So let's. Yeah, I think you get the point. And, I've never seen this. I don't know how this is possible to this day, but it literally blew him out of his boots, his fully waist up boots.

7:57 It, like, blew the demon body out of the fully laced up boot. I don't even know how it's possible. I kind of have a theory on. But anyway, his his parts. Okay, not his, not his body. But yeah, at the torso. And, you know, they just collected these parts and, we're sitting there going through his personal parts.

8:13 And is this terribly tragic and sad, you know, picture of this kids. And why is it, you know, this wall and shit? And so, like, you bag up his personal effects and you label it and, you know, it's there's, there's a, there's a process that's appropriate. And so, the medical team, so the medics are sitting there doing this, and the guys first sergeant, the explosive ordinance, like First Sergeant Guy comes up and and says, you know, oh, man, I, I would hate to have your job, you know, and I walked around the corner because, like, I was dead, hopefully start a motion.

8:43 So I went around the corner, I started laughing, I couldn't help myself because, like, where do you think it's tough to have our jobs? I don't come up on book. Come. I don't come to your your camp elephant bags. Right. But also you've probably got under the same mentality of once a bomb goes off the job. Yeah. I mean, but his I guess it's kind of you have to look at it.

9:07 Yeah. It's like we did everything we could to prevent it from exploding or to detonate it safely. But if it goes off, I'm my problem because I'm Dutch. Yeah. I don't think the brain would have time to have any kind of electrical. So, Nancy, I think you just. It's just a switch at that point. Yeah. In fact, I to be not be daft.

9:26 I think he pretty good way to go. I mean, yeah, dude, it's a hell of a lot better than drug thing. It's a whole lot of know if you want to suffer, I, you know what for the kids are better than no your god that. Yeah. It's got to be better than terminal gambling. It has to be right.

9:39 Better than terminal cancer, better than I. Oh, no. Hell, no terminal cancer. You can get the ditto. Drug free drugs and hookers, all that stuff. One last robbery. Oh, that's true. And you can anything go the did route right guy and dignity. Neat personality poker right like somebody to are G's case. Oh my God. By the market. You need to okay.

10:02 Hospice hookers. Hospice hooker. So that's it? That's it. You know, hot, hot hospice over the late 80s. After that, that might be hard to find. That might be hard to wait. It's just a marketing terminal. It's a selective term. They don't actually have to be the eye of the beholder. Okay? I mean, can you be missing teeth and still be hot?

10:25 I think so this is a possibility. Yeah. Come on. There's there's a certain body. Like if you had a certain type of body that, you know, I think I'm missing a tube out. Could be overlooked. I think so I think that most people's would probably so. Okay. You're telling me you could overlook that now? No. Not unless now they're missing a missing two deadly.

10:47 Okay. Well, a lot of people have missing key now. 1 or 2. No, I don't mean like with a flipper. Like a, well, no prosthetic. It's like it's out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So speaking of those. Oh, damn. Not nada. Rag on. Oh, we've almost been all we people. I've been on the Facebook dating app. Yeah.

11:08 Jesus. There is. Oh, we're like the ugly ones. Could be so like the names that everyone's either like. Like, I swear to God, this girl, skinny really looked like she got hit with the ugly boss. And I was like, her girl's all, like, mangled on, like she does have a dog. That's what you think. Like, okay, I own this company and that my company has really good benefit plan.

11:32 Like get her in as, like a in some kind of administrative position or something like that. Get her teeth. You know it like this are does you know in through Facebook dating and providing glow ups. Yeah. Like no like long term strategy. But I'm talking about long term strategies here. Like, you know like you groom her from fugly.

11:52 Yeah I think that's a that's not the right term baby I don't think she's not going very deep. Come on. I don't think grooming is the right term. Yeah. But that term is taking on new meaning. Oh yeah. Unless you're talking about dogs and I think it's the same term. Right, right. I think in terms of like, but, from the pedophiles now, I mean, excuse that early, I could be getting dreamier, but that's true.

12:15 That's true. I mean, if she looks like Sam's dog, we're kicking this bitch group. So these dudes read these these other these deeds were to Kosovo, and there are all these chicks running around with terrible t, right. And, but dutiful, gorgeous, gorgeous women. And they open their mouth and it's like, oh, yeah. Like, they call them pretty, pretty emo as it.

12:35 Oh, that's all I told Sean about this before. And, some of them talking about like, you know, the military has great benefits. So like dental and medical. So, you know, you can you can just grab one and marry them. And then you know, they you get to sex and you got a, you got a ten year like perfect ten point.

12:51 I mean, I'm guessing it depends on what's going on downstairs. If it's like roast people don't want gum disease down there either. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but they do medical science. It's medical science tells have the whole, you know, refresh that area. You can get a you can get something going on down there where they basically live. And you pretty much they you're coming back for most things besides like Aids or sage.

13:18 Why do you only see that you can't really get rid of is herpes and warts really true anal wards and herpes? Wow, Scientology just takes up with knots. I know, but sorry I'm such a visual person to that now. He doesn't know what he does me. It's about. It's like he literally is like the brain. Me like words.

13:37 The pictures in my mind, if it's any. If it's any consolation, I'm doing the same thing myself. I'm very visual as well, and I think that's why I go there. I think that's why I go, you're like the honey badger, just like you do. Like being the video. You're like the track manager, Steve. You know, I mean, Sam, remember a few a few weeks ago when you went too far for me and I just had to stop?

14:01 I don't even think it happened. I was like, no, I'm talking about I. What are we talking about? Well, you. There you go. You this you we would you should keep walking. Mike. You sure you want me, don't you? Do. You did it to me. You did it to me. I know what happened. So because it was like, whoa, he you did it.

14:20 I did so. So sometimes you have a certain friend that you take it too far all the time. And like, over time, you develop this sense of learned helplessness, right? Where it's just you. You feel it coming. Like I'm just stuck. You just cut the ribbon late for something, or like you have something coming up a timeline, and there's that person that, like, you just can't find a way to to break the conversation.

14:40 One. Yeah. Like, if they're just holding you fucking has it's and you're and there's like this ingrained politeness that you were raised with where you just can't be like, I'm sorry, I have terrible I have to go now. There's there's been like, important things I had been late for because someone I wasn't really that interested in talking to.

14:56 We kept talking. Yeah. And it's like, it's rude. Like, it's a social politeness trumping the. Yeah, that's a that's about you. But, you know, overriding, you know, that is something that's genuinely important for you and your health and your life or whatever. I think generally that we're I mean, trumping means the same thing. It just has these extra connotations with it.

15:17 If, it's just taking the word too far. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's a short fingered, orange skinned Bulgarian now pseudo finger she given. Yeah. She didn't figure she'd have finger ferret wearing shit given. Hey the ones I like the better Cheeto. Jesus, I love that Jesus. And I love the, There's one I heard the other day that was hilarious.

15:37 The mango, Mussolini. Oh, the mango mousse way. That's brilliant. And then I heard another brilliant one. It was, the mega, like, the Make America Great Again people. They call them the mangoes. The the the the, the maggots. All right. And then also, Mega now stands for make attorneys, get attorneys. Pretty.

16:01 I saw that other I saw an old guy with a hat in, Saint Louis. And it was, it was dark blue, like navy blue. And it said, make racism wrong again. Yeah. Okay. So, like, you can get behind that. Yeah. Pick. And then, I, I don't know if y'all remember this, but the all this, like, merchandise that was, Make America Great Again.

16:25 All made in China. Where was it really? That's just amazing. Well, beyond, years ago, before he ran for office. David Letterman called him out on where his ties and everything were made. Could still, he was America. America, America. Yeah. And and it was. Yeah, it was like it. Well, they were Thailand and. Yeah. Of course. Right.

16:44 Wherever the cheapest out labor. Yeah. And dude, all he did is reply was or. It I don't think that as in my lifetime have has ever heard of someone under more investigations. Yeah. Is absolutely incredible. Like he's under so many different investigations and I hope they all come to fruition. What do you do? What's what's that forever scandal?

17:09 Oh, I see him. Oh, yeah. Lucky.

17:15 What what kind of what kind of like cult or social state you have to get in when you have ten, 15, 20,000 people all chanting, lock her up. Yeah. Is it crazy? It's completely like. See what? I heard that even when it was, you know, when it was the hottest, when it was rolled, it better. You can't pay much.

17:32 Drop. Like, what are they? I can't believe they're, like, at this group. And people collectively saying send someone to jail, like, arbitrarily in any of these arbitrarily because she really there wasn't a lot that you could put somebody in jail for that she did. Yeah. Well, from what I understand, it was like everything that she did was credibly investigated.

17:50 Yeah. And they're, you know, even the FBI was like, there's not enough, you know, for for evidence here. Yeah. They claimed no wrongdoing like she backed up. But you know. Sure. Yeah. A mistake is one thing. Going to jail is another. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I, I've, besides Obama and Biden, I bought the third party and all the other elections always.

18:10 And, during the Clinton Trump election, I voted third party for the libertarian. Even on the libertarian Knoll, I just couldn't stomach either of those two candidates. I couldn't stand her smug ass says I can't stand him. I couldn't either. We need Burma's a free. We gather them spring. Sam them because you're nothing like you. Like you like.

18:31 Still my brain today. Who's out now? He's in a he's going to he's going to overwhelm you. Now. I like to wake up in the morning. My beer's gone. Like, dude, seriously, he's got it. So I've been in the Twilight Zone. I couldn't I could not wrangle the felonious beard like you do. I mean, we I get into a struggle.

18:51 If I had a felonious beard, it's hard to keep this day. We're getting angled longer. Yeah, you're fighting Darth Vader like you look down. Your hand has the glove on it becoming that me there's every day is like my beers. Like, pick my nose and, like, give you the middle finger. And I'm like, do stop. Yeah, yeah. Visiting can go so far as to, like, harass women on your back.

19:10 Are you trying to, like, motorboat them? Yeah. Maybe sexually harass is women. Hold up. You're like, you in something. It's over. They're rubbing their shoulders. Right. We're in. We don't be like, another people that. Hey, Navy got a mind of its own. Yeah. So. Yeah. Watch while you're while you're, like, in bed or whatever. It's sitting there fighting with the chest hair.

19:34 Oh, dude, that's why I was guarding myself. Like, why are we fighting with each other for, like, my gallbladder getting removed? I got, like, four scars. Like, yeah, you my beard. You got a sword fight, a beard, one beard, one at once. It cut the beard and he grabbed the scissors and. Yeah. Should you, I know whatever. Excuse me.

19:53 My last beer. He was an asshole. I'm a. We're in jail. Oh. The beards. It's generational. Yeah. I'm. Yeah. So that's it. You have. You have to break the cycle of generational crime. Poverty with your beard. Right? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. So one morning, you completely clean shaven, the beard. Get a family ringing. Hey, where's my wherever. You're all coming back to kick your ass.

20:17 Oh, dude. No. My worst nightmare ever is waking up clean shaven. I have no chin. I will bake Mitch McConnell. I've actually been. Why keep the beard? But I know that's what I'm saying. Because you look all the other right now. The mister gonna though back in college on has is, like, really amazing beard like beard. But it was like you think Nick views how wack this was with Jesse.

20:41 It was masked out. But Jessica's book so you Scott laughing at like so one day we're in like, Louisville, like hacker vision, bro. And like, our body feels like talking smack. And I think we were trying to get somebody to go to the store to get pizza. Then I was like, what do I say? I was like, I vote the power shorts.

21:06 Both. That's it. Yep. I invoke the power of Sean's net beard. Yeah, it didn't carry through it. Oh, yeah. You went and got us pizza. Yeah. Not the duck beer, but the guy. Yeah, the neck beard didn't do the neck. We're done doing. Spread us a neck. It's it's sets. Yes. The the neck beard sits upon its throne.

21:24 You know, it's all it does. I love you, I love the idea of, like, a male groomed beard or like, you know what I mean? Someone walking around. Oh, man. It's like, have a mustache or just you can't remember. It's just so the. They are. That's all. We're visible because, my dog likes to lick the beard, but I want the beard.

21:43 Literally. It's like a squirrel crawling my beard and the beard angels. Because I wake up my beard like poop. Always like crazy. Holy shit. There's, like, syringes in my beard. I'm like, dude, you going to rub it so well? It appeared as a total, but yeah, a lot like my dogs. That's why I'm like, nah, man. Because, like, thanks.

22:01 What I get drunk, I pass out, I wake up, my dog is licking my face. I'm like, that is fucking disgusting. There are just no rules. There are no boundaries with this beer. Yeah. It plays by its own rule, and it takes far more risks than you're willing to take, right? This is a great forum for you to hone your standup routine.

22:17 I think right.

22:22 You know, the beard just is all kinds of risk taking, you know? My gosh, if you ever dare pass out what it's going to do to you, oh, I know all kinds of terrible things and don't don't ever have a Sharpie close to your beard. Oh, no, it wouldn't. I mean, you might want to get it on all the infested man.

22:37 I mean, yeah, like dive down there, The beard, like, skiing way. Yeah. Like, who wants go to beard rides? But I did not see. Oh. Dude, you should totally learn some form of ventriloquism. Oh, dude, I like the read. That was the one thing the beards are, like, moving the. Oh, one of my jokes. I'm a very true, because, dummy, my beards got a fucking head of my ass.

23:03 You got a hair? Yeah, I get a wild. I've literally got a wild hair. How how long could it actually grow? You think there's a limit, or does it kind of like start to break school ends or whatever after certain? Well, I just let it grow. I figure once I can tuck it down, then my nuts are this.

23:22 Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's long enough. Just tuck it in your fucking pants. Yeah, yeah, that's warm your balls. That. Yeah, I like it, you know. Never, ever braided it or tried to put some kind of like I put it in a ponytail when I'm do my rogues girls. Dude, you almost got caught up in there. Rick. Zaza.

23:39 He showed me a video where this guy who written a got hit get ripped that got his beard ripped off his face by a power girl. Yikes. So I wash off at that point. I mean, it was like there were a few chunk chunks of flesh and hair just rips. So I've been all of this like comic strip things where I've been like drawn a lot lately because I miss drawing.

24:01 So I've been drawing a lot of stuff. And so one of the new characters I came up with last night was the beard, and me and my beard will, like, detach itself and do crazy shit. And so like, that's one of the things I've been drawn. But here's one of my latest comics I do like. They will figure you have to send this to us so that we can include it with the extras in our podcast.

24:23 Again.

24:27 Okay. And then, my friend, it works like likes pickles. So I do like pickle puns, and I kind of I pick opponents and I just do like pickle comics. And then I put this is like you said about Halloween, and the dude's like, no, but. So your pickle cobbler, it's like, this pickle is like a chupacabra pickle.

24:46 Pickle. But, I really like oh, she looks happy. And now she looks like she must be getting some shit done. This is one I did for address book four and 26. Draw what I. And what I want you to consider are, clever. That and, one of them is crazy straw. So I drew this picture.

25:08 Nice. I mean, it's a crazy straw. That's just to summarize it for whiskers. How many straws? How many holes? Straw. Two. So sorry that, go get your all being done with only for five total. Well, normal day for straw. Oh, I mean, okay, turtle shaking is very awesome. No. Yeah. Turtle shrinking is very important in the life of a straw.

25:30 Yeah. It's it's kind of like the way. Okay. That's how you get immortalized in a straw. Exactly. I mean, if you're plastic straw skies less. Yeah. That's the thing. The garbage patch. You want anything, you know? Oh, we're using your islands. Yeah. Pick your, you know, like my Ireland's Hilton's island. It was garbage. Which ocean? Garbage patch. You want to retire it, I love it.

25:51 That could have been an insult to, to Irish people and Asians. Pick my Ireland when we're talking about Island no. Right. Well, I really can't insult people. Draw has two holes. Are. Bottom of the top. Right. The one continuous hole or is it actually Sue hole. That's what she said. Oh okay. It's two entry points. Two points of ingress.

26:18 I can come in to the two holes at the same time. I can write. Nice. So. So if you cut, if you take a drill bit and you cut a hole through a board, right. How many holes is it? I mean, it's technically one hole, but if you were it depends on your vantage point. If you're looking at the holes draw.

26:39 I'm totally tripping out with this question. I mean, that one, I mean, I explain I in my personal viewpoint here, I consider it two holes because it's two points of ingress. I can come into this into this part of the hole. That's a hole on a piece table. Yeah. A one hole in one hole. Why? Because the paper has has two dimensions.

26:56 You're right, you're right, you're right. It might be, 5000. So even if it's so, even if we have X, Y and Z, we still have. Yeah, we still have one hole, your straw. Because we have liquid. Now, now, I gotta tell this. So, like you saying, you take a hole punch and you punch a hole on a piece of paper, that's one hole.

27:16 Yeah. Straws. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm agreeing with you. Now, even if we have x, Y and z, it is just one hole. You're right. Okay. But made now. Okay. So a hole down on it. So how many how many holes is a cup? Have it? I don't know, I'm guessing a cup has one hole. Feels. So now you back ahead.

27:37 Say in the old bottle though. So now you're saying that. But it's not a hole. There's no hole. There is a hole. Oh, it's got the depression. It's a depression, but a hole is all the way through. Right. This is is some where you say, I'm very depressed, I'm in a hole. Here's one that the mates, you know.

27:56 So Sam has won this debate through semantics and social engineering.

28:04 And delirium. Delirium. Plus, do you guys really want to know the answer to how many holes? And the answer is he gives a fire. That's the answer. Well, you know, I will argue. You really give a fuck if you're about to fuck how many holes are available. Just say that is that is that is that is a yes.

28:23 That's the scientific and mathematical. Now. Yes. In which you literally dead in the eye and says pick a hole. That's, that's, that's the ideal keep best and that's pick pick not pickle as per your guides pick is it. No it is, it is. Oh well she she really a keeper when she says pickle a hole. So there is this there there's this, there's this tramp that my, my wife was, reemployed with that one of these companies that you were book and, she was like, screwing the upper managers, upper managers and stuff.

28:56 She was like, you know. Yeah. Pass around the office type thing. And, I don't so. So never hear this podcast, I'm sure. So, like, her name was pickle. I don't need to drop her last name. That would screw up. So behind her back, not talking too much. You tickle. Let's say look for a cold. And I did it right?

29:13 Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but actually, I am the Nicole that is summers best friend. Definitely not talking about you. Y'all know Nicole. Some conspiracy. So, anyway, as a joke behind her back, we called her pick a hole, Nicole. And I'll say, I heard this story before. Here. I told it to you. Hear my stories, repeat. I guess it's okay.

29:33 My not. Yeah, good. Because I totally forgot about you. Yeah, I have a non repeatable story that I never told y'all before this. Oh, ogles. I was like, maybe 27 ish, right? And, I had had recently, got a pretty big paycheck from one of the jobs that at one of, like the gig job that I did do a computer program I made, like this really cool database website, I think.

29:54 And, got a pretty, pretty decent sized paycheck. And I said, you know what? I need to upgrade my computers. And so I had three computers at the time and went out and bought three brand new state of the art. That's the best in the business kind of computers. For my little office that I had set up.

30:08 And, what happened was, is that some of the younger boys in the neighborhood know they were always out. I was living in a cul de sac, so they're always outside play. And we all knew each other and knew all the all the neighbors knew each other. It's like one of those, like, cozy, right? Really? Tight, kind of cozy 80s debris.

30:24 Yeah, that was great. And it was great. And the kids were all like, cool kids, you know what I mean? And, they would come over, want to use my computers because they had all the state of the art graphics cards and all, you know, latest games and stuff that were actually would play well on the other computers.

30:42 And so, it was like when quake, I think it was quake three. I also some around that time was was hot and I had the, this high speed networking, you know, all the time as well. And so the game played so freaking smooth for, for did you do like a little LAN party? Yeah. They invited the C 250 c k modem.

31:01 Yeah. Whatever it was. That's. Yeah, that's I know those cable modem at time, but it's, these were networked. Really? Well, they're all in the same hub. It was like, not even a far, you know, everything was. Everything was tuned pretty well. It was to say the game played so, so fucking sweet, right? So it was like great to have these, like, head to head battles and so hours and hours would go by playing this game and so I'd sit there and like code all day and work whatever.

31:25 And like invariably maybe like every other day the doorbell rang, you know, hey, can we come in and play some quick. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. And, yeah, I was, I was the dominant by far is like, you know, not only did I have more gaming hours under my belt from my lifetime, but like, I was always good a shooter, you know?

31:41 Yeah. And so, they would they would team up on me and see if they could take me down. Yeah. It was no way. Like they'd give me down then. But, you know, overall I was like dominant force. Anyway, long story short, one day my my father's there and, we're all sitting there playing this game and all of a sudden the doorbell rings and, my father goes to the door in his package, so he takes a package inside, takes his little pocket knife out, opens up the package.

32:07 So all these popcorn peanuts. He worked for BASF at the time. He was expecting this, this this thing that he was taking on to one of the job sites. Like he was expecting this little mechanical pump, for for pumping dyes. That paper. Paper color. Oh, cool. They said he's expecting this little pump that, like, has a really precise, like, how much flow regulator on it.

32:29 And so, he just took the package that that's what he thought it was. He opened it up. It was all these popcorn peanuts. He starts sitting through it, he pulls up this huge ass dildo watch. Right. Huge, huge. It's like a maglite like like am. Yeah. This is this was like, you know, who needs a man that, you know, this thing was this thing was this was, this was a killer.

32:49 Yeah. Anyway, so I rearrange your gut so he's like, what would be your feature? Cuts it. He's like, what the fuck is this? Right? And, he's he thought immediately that the guys at the office were playing a joke on it. Yeah, right. It's like, oh, man, those that those assholes. And then, one of the boys, he was like, you know, 17, 18 year old kid.

33:09 His name was Jerry. He looks back and sees this thing. He's like, what the hell's a mr. toy milk? And, that it's like, I don't know, it's a it's a it's a joke, I guess, from the guys at the office or whatever. They looks at the label on the thing. And the package was for the neighbor. Oh.

33:26 Oh, yeah. Right. Take it over. Well, so he's like, oh, shit. You know, like I just opened the neighbor's mail, you know, it's it's all obviously, like, pure accident. It was no malice here. What's, you know, are you guys having me packing tape to put this bitch back? Yes, yes, but but it wasn't the cat out of the bag.

33:44 It was the. It was the pickles out of the out of the jar or whatever I saw at that point, because that kid had seen this and then knew. And then what's his mom's package? No no no no. Oh, no. Okay. No. No, I was about to be freaked. Yeah, but there was a reason why I told you.

33:58 The whole cul de sac. It was tight, Nick. Because everybody knew everybody. Yeah, and so the kid figured out really quickly based on the context of the conversation, who it was for, and he's like, oh, I got to go. And my father was like, don't you dare say a word like this. This never happened. Don't you dare say anything.

34:14 Well, that was doomed from the beginning. Well, yeah. So his name was Jerry, and he was a troublemaker or a loud mouth anyway, right? There's no chance in hell he is going to keep his mouth. So my dad, like, repacked his everything. Put some clue tape on it. It was beautiful. It was like it was never touched. He brought over, put it in the door, like, open the door.

34:33 Put it in the door. Right. It was like nothing to see here. Well, the the boy had already gone. Told every kid in the fucking neighborhood right. Hey. No, it is a he said that Carl's mom bought it, that they bought a did. How are all. Carl's mom bought a dick anyway, so some time goes by because it was like, you know, everyone's gone at work for the day type thing.

34:54 And, so a couple hours go by. He thought the whole thing had blown over, right? Hell no. Ain't they? Come home, all the neighbors are talking back and forth like what's going on? And then her and her house getting a C on sale or whatever for divorce or going door to door around the neighborhood, like explaining to people I don't know what like saying like basically was it's a, it's a, it's, it's for a friend, you know, I mean it's this this this where a friend.

35:20 It's a joke. We're just holding on to it for a friend. Yeah. A whole day for a friend. Say we're trying to save face because they knew that the kids had already spread all the all the all the words over. I don't I think I would have just not done that. I would have knocked on the door. Did you just suck it up?

35:34 Total. So I do. I'll be here for donkey show. Yeah, exactly. That's real. Pretty much. Was that the size this dude? So side hustles you know. So anyway. And now they come over to the house, they say it. So now they come over to our house. Right. And the timing was perfect. Is the girls date and time had come over just at that time.

35:55 And I briefed her really clicked on what had happened. I was like, my face was red. I have two supervisors. I'm laughing. So far. They are. I can't help myself. Right? Dude, I would have gone door to door and said, I'm starting a dildo rental service. Anybody would sign up. I can hook you up, right? Yeah. Nondescript. How does like for the way the neighbors walk around the neighborhoods.

36:16 And all these people, like, all hanging off the leash, is like, got a strip there and you give it little legs, like pipe cleaner legs.

36:27 We do that anyways. Yeah. What do you name it? So what do you see in your faces? Dangerous question. Or immediately you went to saw. Let's import red color. It was a good name. Yeah. It's very weird. Rules are turning. Yeah. So we don't have this capability yet, but it'd be cool on the website to have a contest.

36:49 Then to name this the name of the pet that you walk around to pet. They'll know that you walk around without it. And then we reveal the final name. Yeah. The winner gets gets you some prize. Yeah. Get the winner. Gets the dildo. Well, I have to make some phone calls. I think that may be hard to obtain at this point.

37:06 Okay. I can't afford to be. I two. It's like pick up only. Yeah, it, you can't ship that with batteries. Pickup only. And it might be Team Lyft to. That's awesome. Team where. Oh out comes crated. All right. Tied to its own pallet. No, it's in a cage. Oh. You know, it's arrived because outside here. Yeah. Like because there are holes in that thing.

37:42 I think starlings let the money. It's are in this bay. It's been it's been like even though it was overnight it it probably needs to really go out into the pro walk on a neighborhood. So you get air it out, you bring a full sized garbage bag to pick up the pick up the waste. So damn, it's a big.

38:00 And I'm gonna get all that. So darling, darling. So I finish the story or I'll finish the story. So, she basically, if that this this lady, her husband and, you know, a couple of the kids of the neighborhood were there. And then one of her sons, her youngest son, comes up his. And, it comes in the house as well.

38:24 And my father is denying up and down that he did it. And he were all like, he's like, no, no, I didn't open it. He's lying through his teeth, right? Say no, no, no, I never opened it. I don't know what was in there. Your vulva like totally. The word was already out. So like it was a flagrant why.

38:38 And everybody knew it. He was just trying to do whatever he could to save this. And he's like, no, no, no, no, I didn't open it, blah blah. Right. And, in the middle of, of of lying about it, one of the boys comes in and says, mom, what part whatever sites it says, don't, said the you. I say, did.

39:00 That's funny. And I was in the kitchen and heard that. And only the only thing that broke the silence was my howling locker as I went from the kitchen into the into the garage where my girlfriend was. We're sitting there, the garage door was open. We were sitting there, I mean, howling, laughing. We couldn't contain ourselves and we're like, we got to get the fuck out of here.

39:18 Great. Well, this, this. You're not going to believe this part of the story. At least these motherfuckers called the cops. No. Yes for like, no for offered tampering with their mail. Yeah, right. We delivered to my house. Totally. Yeah. Totally. Right. And there was no charges. And the cops, like, in so, so, so, like, literally as my girlfriend for the town about.

39:40 Yeah, exactly. You just had to explain it and put it on the police report that you bought Rambo and that your empty like a manger inside. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so literally, we're driving out of the neighborhood and two cops come, cop cars come in the neighborhood with their lights on. Right? And I was like, oh, they're going to arrest my dad for, you know, for dildos that, hey, you know, no, we were laughing about that too.

40:03 I mean, he might even if you just put his hands on. It's. From the and the outer packaging. It's all you know what it was that like because, like, oh, let me open it, you know? Oh, yeah. Anyway, so we were joking our asses off about, like, you're near arrest my, that's my old man for, you know, for for mail fraud or whatever, whatever the crime is.

40:22 Yeah. Maybe, like possession of a deadly weapon. I don't know, though. Y'all like y'all all. Y'all get over that? Yeah. So we came back and asked, you know, when we came back, my father was like, you know, those cops came and the cops came. We're like, no. Like we couldn't believe that. So we started laughing again. Right?

40:41 And I'm like, what happened? What did they say? He's like, well, they sent them that. They sent it back home. They sent the lady, her husband back home so they could talk to me, sat at the table and laugh for about 20 minutes about what happened. And then the cop were. So funny like that. The whole town knows.

40:58 Yeah, exactly. They're not. They're going to tell everybody. Yeah. It's like, oh, that boy grinning as though somebody had to fill in. Exactly. I had to fill out a fucking report on that. Right. Like, dude, I wonder if they need to get the measurements of said, oh, they should have. Yes. For sure. Now. Yes. It's like, it's like girth four inches.

41:19 Like length like what is the exact size behind the like load? The size of small baby alligator.

41:27 This thing, this thing could easily be how it's really missing. Have you seen that guy that has, the, One of the dogs called wiener dogs? No, the dogs that, like the people. Dogs or whatever. If a weird furry type, you know, the people that like for people with PTSD, I'm sure this guy guy's emotional support. Alligator.

41:51 What it takes. That fucker's swimming. And so he pools with little kids. That's a horrible. Yeah, that's fucking all. Seems like bending the rules. Damn, that sounds like something you would do for laughs. Yes. I just now ain't called it. But still somebody comes out with a nine millimeter. Just. Just shoots the alligator. I'm threatening the kids right now.

42:13 And then it's like, dude, blue kids are playing with like, it's a doll. No. Yeah, in a pool. Wow. Why? Why do you like, you know, human beings through it, through our development and our, you know, land use and stuff that designated all these different species. Why do we have to be like the animals at this level? Yeah.

42:30 I'm like, well, does what? Bubbles, why are you stupid? Animals like you will come back and it's a dinosaur. Yeah. That's why the fuck it has the brain the size of a poker chip. I mean, being doesn't is not thinking it's a kid last. People trying to enslave dinosaurs. Their whole species is gone. Yeah. Yeah, right. We don't have any of those dinosaur riding motherfucker any more.

42:50 They're all dead animal.

42:55 It's also like, al, you're, like, never gets. Yeah, yeah. Never again. Well, I let a U and big dominate me. I was at a museum, and I will not mention anything in this is. I was at a museum with your dinosaurs, and the girl I was with asked me. She was like, could you imagine having having to deal with those things?

43:13 She thought they were contemporaries, human beings. She thought that, yeah, that there is an overlap between humans and dinosaurs. So there and I one passage in the Bible that may have you believe such thing, one passage. Well, this passage in the Bible that I believe y'all go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So what I'm trying to say, maybe that's where she did a great.

43:31 Yeah, this same person thought that, like, if a pregnant lady smoke cigarets, the womb filled up with smoke. Wow. As if it was like a balloon or like you're going to box your baby by smoke while you just gave Sam all kinds of ideas. I saw the the beard. Just heard that. Yeah. The beard. Yeah, that's fucked up.

43:51 That that fear. It's going to be doing some crazy shit. No, but Pierce got to pray the lady finished. Now.

44:00 That beard. Yeah. You got a Cesar Millan it. Yeah. Like Carmen, he every. He looks in the corner of the room and the beard has a hookah pipe up some some pregnant lady's cooch trying out box the baby. Oh, I guess this beard is all kinds of feeble. This is beautiful. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm beards, a saint.

44:26 The beards. Like I'm red. Motherfucker. You should have known. Yeah. I mean, you ever heard Red beard? I mean, that's that's what we kind of joke is. He's like the red beard. Belmont. It's, our result is Ginger beard. No, ginger beard. Almost sounds like gingerbread, I like it. No, sorry. It's got a but like how Red beard invokes the a whole pirate thing.

44:48 I could be Sam and had beard being co pirates. It ties into the no rules, you know theme. Your, it does a I'd like to see it. You know, you can't really separate. It's like those, you ever seen those those, twins. Not twins that are like Siamese twins or whatever you called the conjoined twins.

45:08 And they're like the they're both alive. And it's a teacher that the terminology so fucking hard. Yea. It's like they they or a teacher or those two people, right? Our teacher, they, they teach it like, high school. That's crazy. Or middle school or high school teacher. Old stripper. Well, it's hard out there sometimes. They do like, a lot of something interesting.

45:33 If there is a crime, commit. Like, say, one of them is asleep and the other one, like, does online identities a fraud or some shit, right? Oh, it's like get can you send it to jail to this unknown not beard at the same problem. That's okay. So you just saw where I was going with that, right. So if the beard is out committing all these, that's what I'm saying.

45:52 You guys are like conjoined twins. Yeah. What are we, though? Yeah. So, you know, could could the beard actually face jail time? I mean, it's just not fair. You. They did try and put an ankle monitor in the last year. Yeah. Did they, they ruled that. It just doesn't make sense. No. He's in jail now. Okay. And.

46:10 Oh that's right, that's right. Oh, this is the perfect crime because the beard can just go off and do all the shit you did. Steal time. Just grow a new one. Yes, it nice endless, an endless spree. But it's very sad period of that time without a beard. It's like. So here's the question. Is has a good beard ever grown in like one then now that all of the saying they all felonies all come from the same cloth?

46:31 No. Wrong. It's like it's like they have a bad father or something. I don't know what's deal. Is the follicle something to do with the follicles, hair follicles, larger follicle? Yeah. Like he says, they're all cut from the same follicle. Well, they're yeah. The strands don't fall far from the tree, but the strands don't fall far from the wig.

46:53 I don't know, these say. Well, they, you know, at an early age, they're, they're like the in the data that's with, you know, like, that's it and that's it. You've been bald them in a lot of activities in their early age. You know, it's anything from beard writing to smoking weed. You're right, weed, smoke and all the terrible language that comes out of the mouth.

47:15 And that's what certain ideas, if they're if they're all silence, the sort that all believe, they're witness to everything that's happens despite you don't think that's motivated like it's on. Yes. So like the children also like bondage to you constantly you know putting. Yeah yeah yeah. Every time I use like the rubber band thing is like you just tie a knot please.

47:37 I'm like, no, I'm in a hurry. I gotta do stuff. Yeah. So my beard likes to be tied on next level. So they're there. There's multiple levels of of abuse, neglect and, yeah, my period as a slave where they just as told me. Here does not on the door. We got a call. We're going to have to separate you and your beard, sir.

48:00 Fell asleep with the cell phone. Too close to the dude. Costa? Yes, I got.

48:08 It's like I'm a young beard. I've only been around for a year and a half, like. Man, that's. I'm going to confession. Maybe he was in it for a long time. Damn, damn name. And really, what crimes does it confess to? Yours? And it's. The preacher's beard was jerking off. Wow. Way to go, Sean. Yeah, like yelling, like last.

48:34 Like that was good. Damn. The one year old beard has green it. I love it because it's been so traumatized. So like Dallas yards there. A beard PTSD. Beautiful boy. That's well done. The beards in therapy. Wow. Well, it's like, where do we start? Tell me about your parents. Well, I guess I don't know who my mom is.

49:01 Oh. My tattoo. Oh, my. They. I've done many mommies. Oh, it's a saying. Never stay for more than a night. I don't know what I came out of, but they all. She tried to put me back in it. Yeah, he's always tried to stop me in there. Oh. What are you guys? I'm don't like third party babies. Oh, it's like they try a waterboard or a virgin.

49:27 Virginia. Big. That's good. That's, That's awesome. The tip of the beard is. I don't know what you talking about. It stinks. The aim of the beard is like, you know, I don't know what experience you're having, but I always get it. No. No place. Wow. So I'll be sick or in a peanut. It was tasty. I'm serious.

49:54 I didn't want to eat it, but it was so good. It. Oh, be a beard. Like two for that beard. Love that. Dave's hot chicken last, right? Yesterday. Okay, so we're sponsored by Dave's Hot Chicken. Y'all right over there. Yeah, they're sponsored by this hot chicken. We're just, days. Hot chicken is the best fried chicken I have ever had.

50:13 Preferred buy more. Now it will spicy chicken. And it's preferred by nine out of ten beard. So yeah. More beards. There's a 9.5 beard. Medicine is a baby. Oh yeah. It was a 17 napkin sandwich. Oh yes. What? It was so good. Yeah. Also. Yeah. Hey, maybe we'll get a free sales. Oh, I know, I know, they start asking this.

50:39 Let's be like, you know, be like, no, no, but we do not want to be a society, so we don't want a beard. So it was, they were like, no, I think dates are chicken would be down. We went there yesterday right. I wouldn't mind like some kind of lawsuit like to to to like the good restaurant or to like a gas station or something where you just get, like the product for free, right?

51:07 Or the gentleman's car. Weird. Who buried thought it out. Okay. You want me to relay that? Yeah. Can you imagine getting the gentleman's club products spray? Or you get a free buffet? You know, I like the idea of, like, you know, your bus and you're working hard, trying to make ends meet, trying to put together a good life or whatever.

51:25 But the beard, like, has the mind of its own, and it's like taking you with it, like, almost like a Weekend at Bernie's things. So like you're sleeping unconscious in the beard outside, doing all this crazy shit out here like this, or you drag your wraps, I have no choice. Yeah. No. Yeah. You're attached. You're conjoined twins. And these guys in all suit.

51:43 You're a disaster. And there's a certain, like, realistic. Like, in all seriousness, there's a certain interesting legal kind of thing there you'd imagine. Data conjoined twin. Yeah, one of the conjoined twins. Then something fucked up, like, let's say, pulls out a gun. Yes. Just just fucking recent somebody. I mean, is it fair to put the other half in jail, or what if one decides to rob a bank and the other one didn't agree?

52:08 Well, so I'm saying there it is. There's like a dominant one, and most of the time, like one of them is stronger of the two. So if you were to have a, sexual. Yeah, conquest, would it be a threesome or to ask them? I would say like since they have their own name and identity, it's really just two legs.

52:28 Yeah. I mean, I think you tag the whole thing is really holes. Is it conjoined you to have burdens? How? They're gonzo. It depends how they're conjoined. Right. There's the ultimate question. Right. What do they share? Is the question. And so could one of them claim right. In this age of me two, they definitely.

52:54 Worse than that, that. Is this all? Can you tell us, bro? That was awesome. Yeah, I definitely didn't mean that as a conjoined twin, as part of the MeToo movement or the working or not, the. Damn. I totally didn't mean to go there and then go to the bathroom. It's a MeToo movement. Get it? Me one orbit.

53:12 Did I get sick? Smells old farts? Yes, yes. Well, and I'm sure they have moments where they like. And I bet they know what you want to rip. Rip themselves. I bet they know whose brand it is to like. That was your beautiful part. You know, there's just some more questions. There's, And you know it. This is a great thing to joke about, but but my gosh, you imagine being one Alicia Spears.

53:36 We should get joint wins. Satanists and this is possibly pedestrian, not Howard Stern. I mean, no law wants no, no. Yeah, yeah, we but we do want to cop to Satanist. We want to do Satanism. Satanism versus humanism. You know, and we do want to talk to conjoined twins because that's fucking great. Yes. You know, and, civil midgets, we devil like dogs.

54:04 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've always wanted to talk to it. Sure, sure. People I would office. I've always, like, wanted to talk to strip images. I have a, I have a midget in one of my classes. I'm pagan right now. Less nuts. And, he's like an over-the-top cool dude. That's cool. And Sue said, well, yeah, they have to be.

54:22 Yeah, that's a good way. And I was like, whoa, great boy. No wonder I've been com see my whole life. It's a oh, wow. He's probably like, I am really cool, man. So like people with, with all kinds of different, you know, let's just say like you are a one and a 1 to 10, you know, charisma scale.

54:41 Yeah. I mean, you have to have an angle and some kind, like, you know, anything that would you really irregular. You're irregular in any way, like a rogue beard or, you know, I just like. So you have to make eyeballs. You have like a you can just be like, you have to up your charisma. They're really interesting. So, you know, my whole life I've been like a jokester, you know, like, go around, make people laugh.

55:04 And so I was wondering after that comment, I was like, what have I been compensate for my whole life? And I know what it is. It's like, you're like a mess. Corps level. A lack of intelligence is what it comes down to. You guys like I can say a lot of things. That sounds smart, but I struggle like I am not a smart guy.

55:21 Like, but I but I've learned to, like, make it make it look good. Whatever. No, I'm sounds sounds bullshit. If it is not you, you guys just don't know how much like, okay, once I know something, I know it. But. But to get there, it's so hard for me, right? Like new concepts, new things. My whole ass is done that way.

55:40 But then once I get it, I get it. You know, I weird brain that way, right? But, but you get there a lot of times. This is fucking struggle. I failed a lot of classes, and not because, like, I didn't try. It's like I couldn't get it the first time. I think it again and then get an egg, right?

55:54 Because it's just like when it clicks, it clicks. But until that time, it's like, right? Yeah. Oh yeah, I mean, I feel good. I know probably everyone's like that to some degree, but I'm like an extreme case of that heat. Yeah. I mean, you know, and whenever you made that comment initially, I mean, of course it made me start thinking, you know, well, I don't and I, you know, I think for a lot of people there's a lot of things you are these innate insecurities that you're kind of glossing over or trying to cover up or divert attention from.

56:26 And I mean, I have a few I could sit here and eat people who have my beard, that I'm like them like six feet, dude, you know, you know, you know. Yeah. I mean, I want to refer you to somebody. It's it's really made me happy. It's awesome. And it it's it's great. And and so, this, this older gentleman that I'm friends with through my Nova social, right?

56:47 He told me the other day that technology we having technology talk. And he said that technology for him in his life experience has been a been a source, a major source of learned helplessness. I never put that together in my mind before. And it was like this huge light came on. I was like, so all these people feel trapped by technology.

57:07 They feel forced into it and unable to do anything. Yes. So like, you know, we all are in technology enough to where it's not it's an enabler. It's an enabler. Right. But but if you're on the other side of that, I, I never I mean I've thought of the around the, I haven't thought of it on this specific terms.

57:24 And so when he said it that way, I was like, this light bulb came on was like, Holy shit, that's the holy grail of technology is making it. Not that way. Damn. And and no one's done that. Yeah, right. So it's all about approachability and extensibility. Person can use it, they can discover it and understand it and extend it.

57:45 So the arts on the my stepdad has with his like smartphone. Yeah is he has Parkinson's. And so the whole Fletch stuff is on me too. And oh you lost me get so angry. Those voice activation apps so him all that they did help me out with. Take the time and research it all the there's all these, like, voice, voice assist that you can just talk to you for the phone.

58:06 Yeah, that's why I do mine. Yeah. This is what you do. But, I mean, if you really research it, you can find, like, a 2 or 3, like, really top notch apps that they can install that allow the, the phone to be controlled by voice. Because I went through the same thing with my mother. Cancer. She was shaking.

58:22 She couldn't touch the thing, the same thing. She was incredibly frustrating. Why? Because she could she couldn't like swipe and couldn't be certain gestures. And then she kept like going back to screen or going to the home screen or like she'd get so excited. So I did like voice activation on it. Voice solved the problem. Nice. Yeah, that's the answer.

58:39 The accessibility. You know, it's there. I just try that that to make it really help them out a lot. Yeah. But so good imagine is like this feeling. There's been like an older person who, you know, your whole family, let's say, is real tech savvy. And they're at like Thanksgiving or Christmas. Everyone's talking about technology using technology, right.

58:59 And the kids are on electronic even and stuff like that. And the other person has no transferable skills, no, no way to connect with the technology to serves as a device for that person. Right. And, I never, never thought of it on those terms of like, learned helplessness. So, so, there's this great psychological. It's crazy. You take a classroom of kids, and you vitamina two like a left and a right hand side.

59:23 Let's say there's six rows. Three rows here. Three. Is that right? And you give them this test like it's a simple test. Something like a word scramble. So, the people on this side of the room have, like, let's say something like, bet the word bet right as the first word. And, and the instruction is, is you have to take the it's an anagram.

59:44 You have to take that word and rearrange the letters to spell something else. So simply right, they just say Ted that and turn right. And this side of the room has a word like world as number one, right. It's the teacher in front of the class. This is our everybody for for the first word, go ahead and unscramble the word.

1:00:02 Make a new word out of it, just a single word. And then raise your hand. Once you got it. Once you got to work. Well, pretty much everybody on this side room raises their hands very quickly. And on this side of the room, like pretty much no one's raising their hand because they there's no Gizelle. What is the anagram for world?

1:00:16 I don't think there is one. Right. So then question number two is something a little more difficult. But also easy to unscramble for this side of the room and not for the side. Right. Yeah. And then the third word is the same on both tests. What the third word is like relatively difficult to unscramble. It looks, on the face of it that would be like an unstressed like world.

1:00:37 It's a letter. The second group hasn't had the middle practice and success of the two previous task. Right. And now they're also they're also demoralized because everyone on this side of the room has gotten the first two. Yep. So they're just not even trying to they're right. And so they get to the third word and they say raise your hand once you got it.

1:00:55 And everyone this side of the room of course raise their hands again. And then like 2 or 3 people on this side of the room out of 20, raise their hand because they've already learned helplessness. They now have learned helplessness to this task. They're frustrated. They they're they're disenfranchized. They have no confidence that what's their confidence that they can do this.

1:01:11 All right. Their peers are all having success. They're unsuccessful. So in the third word, even though they have the same exact third word. And these people were divided randomly. So that's the same level of intelligence on both sides of the room for the most part. Right. And then the third question, the people on this side of the room just have given up.

1:01:27 They've given up. And so they just feel like they that their confidence is ball and they just don't even try. Really. I'm afraid. What that's the idea behind in helplessness. It's a conditioned state right. We can imagine people would in this highly technological world that's just getting more and more jail every day. And they're like, okay, you can imagine them.

1:01:45 Like they just can't do it. They can you. I start praying for them. They'll have you confidence. Yeah. They don't have the confidence. They don't have the mental, you know, it's like the mental constructs to learn and grow from it. They don't have the base concepts, like when you and I are confronted with who these new user interfaces or a new program, we base it on things we already know.

1:02:08 We explore the file menu, or we explore this or that and they don't have it. Right. Exactly. So there's this like technological learned helplessness that a lot of specially older people, you know, experience. So where they just give up on and older people like will be afraid to just jump in and try something because it like had a more structured, you know, in a, in a more like analog, mechanical world.

1:02:34 Like if you do something wrong in that machine, you can make a big problem, like, you know, like a car, for example, you do something wrong in the car. You could just try things out while you're driving. Right? But but in like, a virtualized world, it's kind of designed to, like, try out. You really can't break anything. Right.

1:02:49 And and that's and I think that's an important thing. The way my father framed up things when I was a kid for computers was he framed it up as he's like, don't worry about it. We can fix anything. Yeah. You know. Right, right. Well, I gave you the green light to do whatever. Yeah. And, I mean, I destroyed and rebuilt that thing 500 times, you know?

1:03:10 Whoa. But if you didn't have that experience. Yeah, be very hesitant. And so there's that too. And then there's like the cumulative effect. So like, technology tends to build on on things that people already know. So like part of interface design and building is like you build on existing knowledge. So like everyone knows how to use Google.

1:03:28 So if you were going to put a search on a website, make it look sort of like Google, because that's a very shared knowledge. Well, so a lot of technology is cumulative. It's built on previously acquired and you're drawing which from what you feel is a shared pool of experience as an interface designer. Right. And so then these people that don't have the experience, that's just another realm of being overwhelmed.

1:03:48 And this learned helplessness. Right. And so makes, you know, like, you know, some of these old timers will like, try to pay for everything in cash. And then, you know, they just get more and more asymmetric to the norm Zeta society of modern Technical society. And they just they give up and then they have to compensate in other ways.

1:04:04 Right? Then they have to find other ways to compensate to like I said this, anyone that has any kind of deficiency is then going to try to compensate for some of the way. Right. And so like a lot of ways that the these people will do is will disassociate with younger people, they'll stop trying and they'll only associate with with, with like people saying it's you saying from the yeah.

1:04:24 People would say learned helplessness. Right. So they have a common, you know, experience that they can withdraw from. Right. That's crazy. And it's I'm like super tech savvy, which I like think so. And, there's there's still where I'm around like these really, really young college like first year at high school type people. They have their own language, dude.

1:04:44 But like, I don't fully. Yeah. Right. And so like, I feel myself maybe creeping in that different direction. That's scary for me. You want to feel really old, go on YouTube. Love to talk to music, right? No idea what exactly they I no, I go back to listen to classic rock. Yeah, right. Top 40. Like, I, you know, this person existed.

1:05:07 He's a highway to hell bad guy. So thunderstruck. No, that's. Yeah. Let me go to my musical. Say welcome to the jungle, dude. I was such a fan when Thor Love and Thunder used, guns N roses stuff as a soundtrack. I was a huge fan. I was like, thank you. Take over. Thank you. Do you like terms?

1:05:30 Yeah. Okay. Okay. So was somebody one of those, like, should die. I'll see you. I fade, but one of the best classical rock books, classical rock, sounds or songs ever used in a movie was when Thor Ragnarok, at the beginning, when they played LED Zeppelin. Oh, yeah. That movie was great from start to finish because that's such a great movie.

1:05:57 The Devil's Anus. Let me, a friend of the dog, and Amos, I call him the Devil's Amos all the time. If you can't tell of the ends or anus, it. That's the beauty of it. Yeah. Yes, yes. And, you know, we've thought about making a Glory Hole restaurant and calling it the Devil's Anus, right? You know, I still think we could kind of go all the know, ditch them, be eggs.

1:06:22 No, we promise no, because unless you buy that as an add on, then you can get dicks through there. So certain things restaurants like where the sanitation score is more important than other themed restaurants like I'm sorry, I go a food glory hole version restaurant. I'd better have a fucking 100 says this is one we need in going in.

1:06:41 You need 120. Yeah, this you need above 100. You need you need the 100 plus the bonus point. Yes. Exactly. Like we're no. Just to get people in the door. It's like the kitchen's like a clean room. Exactly. And that's to be like, the whole entire thing has to be set up almost like that. That show Dexter.

1:07:00 Like when you do somebody with plastic, that's. It has to be like, in order for people to want to dine there. Like, if you think about it. Yeah, it's like we're we go to an Italian restaurant, they offer a tour. Oh, I got yeah, I got it. So you serve the food on utensils out of a hole and that's either mouth.

1:07:19 And then that whole thing has to be like disposable like lights set for the next. Yeah. We. Aren't you reusing tools. It's like when you go to the nail place and they don't they get to pack the tools out just for you. Right. We had the packet reader says ours like so imagine. But you guys get what I'm saying.

1:07:36 You don't want to be spread like herpes. Everybody's hands up. But they were user tools, I think you sterilize it too. I sometimes some places have an autoclave and sterilize tools. Other places get this little packet to us, man. They also are. But. Well, the whole point is you get your own set. I don't know. Yes. You get all that.

1:07:56 I mean, you hear. Do you think I get medic or just pretty nails, bro? Yeah, I chew on them. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know those cute clean. The men do that. Do they do cute I hate you, I fucking chew them all the time. You. Anyway, so you're a real sewer. If you ever in your life that's your don't toenails.

1:08:18 Okay, so to call Willow Hooten out, she chews on her own toenails. Wow. At seven, I don't know, I've never seen her do it, but her brother swears she does it, and she admits it. Wow. I've told her. And whenever you're about to do it, let me know. I'm going to leave. I'm going to leave the room.

1:08:38 I mean, you should at least get on video first. I don't know, dude. I don't know if like you put that on videos. It's. I could see the beard wanting to see the beard once. I want to see this. All right. Okay. Blank. Here's a nice to smell that the next time this happens, I'll get it on video.

1:08:54 The beard once had a little I mean, I think the beard just was last a beard once the last, but also once it wants to it wants to have some type of interaction with the stuff that gets picked out from under those tunnels. Oh. All right, that is weird, Sean. Oh, so once you've experienced a certain amount of trauma, this this is reverse.

1:09:14 This is this reverse thing that happens, right? It's like you start to own it. Yeah. I go totally get that. And you can you can use it as a form of identity. Yeah. And a form of empowerment. I think you sure? I've defined my personality. That. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There's there's this there's this, like feeling.

1:09:36 It's like. It's like being in a fight and you've been hit so many times and punch so many times. It just can't hurt you anymore. Yeah. It's like, I don't know if you've ever had that experience, like where you're like, even you've been even punched so many times. Your adrenaline is so high, like you just can't feel anything anymore.

1:09:52 Oh yeah. Like you're just not. And you know, you're going to win the fight at that point because that person that you're fighting isn't at that level. They're defeated. You can see they're defeated because you can't be hurt anymore. Yeah. And there's like totally tons of people that I know and and like, you know, there's tons of people that I know.

1:10:07 I don't know if I'm quite there, but, I know what it's like to feel that way. I've actually let to do push in the face about ten, 15 times. True point. So I can laugh that on the dark on. We'll suddenly win the fight just by default because they can't hurt you very much. Yeah. Yes. That's all right, everyone.

1:10:24 How defeated are you as your as the opponent when you've given everything you can like you. Yeah. If you punch this person so much and you're tire already and you know, you know, it's 100% solidified in your mind that you can't hurt this person. You've lost. You know, what are you going to do? Muscles run. Yeah. You know and I've been in fights before.

1:10:45 Where well, the battery was all right. We don't have that little Christmas Eve. Oh, that explains it. Yes. The beard is all. Yeah. Knows before the beard, dude. So I like. So to throw off like my bloody eyeball at Christmas. I like when we're a nice suit. You never. Wow. You look really sharp. Like. Yeah. Yeah. Those are all the lights, you know.

1:11:09 Yeah. I want it. Never. So you dress this, like, for, like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's, I think there's a certain degree of people that have experienced a certain amount of, like, life trauma to where that's kind of like their mental state. Yeah. Like you just can't hurt them anymore. They, they there's they're they're galvanized against trauma. Right.

1:11:27 And then any trauma that just comes their way, they can just they can just go it like, like deflected into energy. You know, it's like yeah I think Sean's almost got me there as well. I'm not real res. It's like there's a part who says no and no. They're from like let's say or you know, let's say you're in this in any aspect of your life, like, like, yeah.

1:11:49 No cash. Your credits for credit cards are maxed out, like, you can't hurt that person financially at that point. That's true. Like, what's going to happen to it, you know? Yeah. They're not worried about their credit score or I mean, yeah, at some point you kind of embrace the defeat. And it's not like some worry. I know in Russia, you know, let's say that like, you know, you're, you're homeless and you're just like, you're on the street and you have nothing to your name, like you have the clothes on your back.

1:12:19 Is that right? It's like you can only go up. There's a certain point where you like, you can only go up. Yeah. You only go up. There's just. No. There is no more bottom. Yeah. Are you you the also after dying then there's really. That's right. Wow. Yeah. You don't you. That's true. And I don't think that you have to revert to like sure don't give a fuck attitude, but I think you can revert to like, nothing can hurt me any more.

1:12:45 It or like, extremely empowering. Yeah. To you like change my life. So yeah. You can take a couple attacks that are positive. One is an assumed invincibility, surely right outside. And then another is like you said, well, I'm going to change my life. I'm going to be different. More. Yeah. Whereas like the existing personality can't hold on anymore.

1:13:12 It's like it's the it's the, it's the you have to believe me. So like there's like actual legitimate cognitive and mental opportunity to reinvent and rebirth yourself into something completely different. Down. I mean, there's certain like, for example, the military, when they when they bring you into basic training, they stripped of all your identity. Right. Like, yeah, all your clothes, all your like the beard to be gone, you know, everything.

1:13:36 Right. And so that's probably true. Yeah. It's on a separate report. It's a man's decided. As I said, you guys go into the military under the buddy system, right? And the beard is. It's a buddy fucker. Yeah. It just screws you every step of the way. Right? Right. Yeah. The beards are not about to jump on the fucking grenade that comes in the fight.

1:13:59 Like it's going to push you onto the grenade.

1:14:04 Oh, damn. The beard is there. And so like in that situation, there's you're stuck like there's nowhere to go. And so, like, you just have to give in to the situation. And so there's a certain degree of like cognitive and mental conditioning that comes with a certain point in your life with a certain set of circumstances. Yeah. Well, so the beard, right.

1:14:24 They go back to the beard. The beard is experience much trauma like, well, eating her toenails can't fucking can't harm it. Yes. I was going to embrace it. Well, think about all. I mean, like we've said, the list of trauma and it's short. Like, as long the beard will grab her by the. Your honor. Wow. Dude, go ahead and send it, send it, send it, send it to slaughter, bro.

1:14:48 It's the. The beard will grab her by the hair and help her push her down onto the toenails. Sober holiday. Better bite raw.

1:14:57 Yeah. Okay I'm not even going to make any comments so. Oh that's not any kind of way. That way. No. But it's, it just could go so many wrong ways and we don't need to say. Yeah well there's an inflatable taco. I think I've pretty much seen everything at this point. So scared to look. But I'm intrigued.

1:15:18 Yeah, I do, I did. I thought you did a I really thought for a second he was talking about stories. Some you invest in some euphemistic version of Taco. I've never seen a floating taco. I thought you're talking about, like, inflatable ogres. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, I was like, he's talking about a floating vagina of some type.

1:15:36 I mean, that's that's pretty impressive. I've never seen that before. My like that. That looks like a cellophane wrapped taco floating in the air. It's pretty awesome. If someone were, like, really messed up on drugs, I'm screwed. It's like someone got combination. The right idea to put a balloon taco together? It's a Barco. At the. Okay. But yeah.

1:15:59 Have you nudging, like, sort of occupations where you, like, has to really wonder, like, what am I doing in my life? Like your and I talked about before, the person that cleans the sex dolls, like, after they're used, like there's this really expensive sex dolls, right? Like, what do you mean? Oh, is there lace where people joints describe, like I know their sex doll.

1:16:19 Yes. I was like, what do you mean? One person thing. Okay, go into this. So like, you'll have, like, this Japanese executive, right. That. Yeah. It's like married to the job. Okay? It's like no women. Okay. But they'll have, like, this $25,000 full life latex, like different grades of silicone for better for for those. And do you not have a son carrying case and all this kind of stuff?

1:16:42 And they'll they'll have a hotel like, let's say beard knows that they have a they have a hotel in a city for a business thing. And what somebody will do is the one the doll up and the prepare it and have it in the post ready for the ready for the executive, ready for this guy. The guy will go in in and make love to his sex doll and then, finish, you know, and then the person will then take him clean it and get it ready for the next you.

1:17:06 So it was like a business. Yes. Yeah. It was, it was service. There's a person whose job it is to clean these. They should get paid. Paying for that. I bet you do. And so but what I'm saying is there's like the recognition of say there's a certain like there's a certain like moment in that career where you might be like, what am I doing with my life?

1:17:24 But also it's not one of those things where you can just go to Home Depot, like, I need a sex doll cleaner, you know? Right. Well, yeah, you're going to pick up somebody else. Not like the like or Japanese. Right. Where you said home. It's like you go to college. Yeah, go to college. Get a degree, pay all those fucking money for a degree.

1:17:45 Yeah. And then you become a sex doll. And in the here's the thing, this is done in Japan. So these the person who's a sex doll cleaner is probably the world's best sex doll cleaner. Yeah. Right. Right. They've dedicated their the title World's Best Sex Doll. There you. I'm saying top of your game. Like, I feel like what we need to do, guys, is, like, take six months off apprentice under the sex doll cleaner and just go make some bait.

1:18:08 We should. Yeah. And I think it was a high demand to Dubai. Yes. Yeah. So I was imagining like this, this, worker in an injection molding, this injection plastic injection molding factory, let's say, in China. Right. And what you're currently working on is, is fake plastic dog shit to be sold in novelty stores in Europe, in America, guys.

1:18:30 Right. So guilty buying that shit. Same. Yeah. So like tinted before you like like so so the mold opens and right and out pops all these plastic molds and like, you're, you're you're checking them. Yeah. You're you're quality control or you're the person that's like, has the little, air sprayer, right where, like, you're spraying the color onto this, onto that high, like you're just a coin smeared.

1:18:52 Yeah. Whatever. You have to let it spray you. I sprayer and you. That's it. Or just before. So you're airbrushing the highlights onto the the fake plastic dog shit to make it look more realistic. Right? Right. I'm like, that's your occupation. And you just have to imagine that person sits in that like, has this moment where they're like, what the fuck am I doing?

1:19:15 You know what they did? They've hung out with someone like Sean and they've been down so bad they have the yard stare in the face of anymore. They're like the $86. Why do you eat pizza? Oh, it's, So. Oh, what made me think of it when we think of this is like, oh, there's a person seven or the factory.

1:19:36 There's a person somewhere in a factory. Like, that's another level. Oh, I could think about the taco balloon right? Yeah. It's like there's somebody in a factory somewhere. Like making taco balloons. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, if they. If they're a human being, they have to have some form at some point of like, what am I doing? Like, you know, there's probably somewhere they can go see balloons that look like tacos, guaranteed.

1:20:03 And the same I would I would say the same thing for that person. Like so is that a people the moment where you say, what am I in a box? So, so like I've even had these moments like, like, you know, I'm programing like my, my 50th query for this fucking database. That's bullshit. Database that's completely screwed up, designed by a bunch of fucked tards.

1:20:22 Yep. And I'm writing these, like, stupid queries, but you're doing your own little silo piece, right? This done to get paid and literally thinking like I'm spray painting plastic doctors right now. Like it's just it's the same thing. This is fucking idiotically pointless. Like nobody should be doing this ever. Okay? But you society, you get paid more than a plastic dog to get all turds or regardless of the amount of pay.

1:20:48 What I'm saying is like there's there's a certain like utility, right? Your time in your life is being spent doing something that you would assume would have some emotional. We could argue that motivates that level job right now, right? Right. All of our jobs have this air of utility about them. All of our jobs could be boiled down to doesn't need to be a job, is it?

1:21:10 You know, it's it's kind of useless. There's a there's this we society's evolved to the point to create these useless jobs. Yeah. Ones without bafflement. Okay, so I don't know what the don't make. I'm not going to ask you what you make, but let me just say that I will pay you $150 an hour, okay? And obviously, you'd be like, wow, that's great.

1:21:27 Hey, like I would say, I would do almost any job wrong. $80 an hour. That's great. Rate of pay. Let's like three hour. Okay. You're right. So, a trick is take the hourly rate, double it, and that's crass. And make it a thousand. That's uranium. And sell cigarets for 20 bucks an hour. Right? Double. That's 40. Make about 40 K you.

1:21:45 It's kind of general rule thumb, right to easily extrapolate how much that is annual salary. Right. So I'm going to pay you guys and you can work at this job as long as you like. I'm going to pay you each $150 an hour for and full time employment at 40 hours a week. Oh, cool. So true. Right. And, the trick is, is that, like, you don't know what the job is until you till I put you on the job.

1:22:06 Does the job rotate? Well, I do various terrible. Well, let me do this one. Let's just entertain this scenario for a second. And so like start Monday, quit your current job. You start on Monday. Don't even know what it is, but I'm paying 850 bucks and you agree to. It was like you need the money, right? And so you come over to my house and I have this two dirt piles, right?

1:22:27 And they're like, you know, ten foot tall dirt piles, nice pyramid shaped piles. Okay. And I say, here's your shovel and here's your shovel. What I want you to do is I want you to take that dirt from that pile, shovel by shovel, move it ten feet over here and move the pile ten feet. I've done this part right.

1:22:43 Yeah, it's all Sean. Here's your pile, and you move it over here. Ten feet. I've done this before. And then. So you guys would you sitting there like, you know, singing a song, moving the pile. Oh, sounds fun to me, right. Oh, you're getting paid massively to do it. And then once you move the piles over to here, you're like, okay, we're done.

1:22:58 The fringe benefit is I'm doing it alongside you. I know, so no questions asked. That's just your job right there. I expect a certain amount of performance. I expect a certain rate. And we we talk about that like I expect to be able to move the pile like in half a day or in one full day. There's an expectation of performance.

1:23:16 Right. And then when you move the pile from point A to point B, you say, okay, what's next? And I say, all I want you to do is move the pile from point B to point A. I watch so much move pile that that's all I want you to do and say like, oh, okay. And you move the pile.

1:23:31 Well, you got to know what's happening next, where your next job is going to be, moves about how long do you think you can do that job? A long time for that much work. Yeah. It's like, okay, so because I use a wheelbarrow. No. Okay. So no innovations or you have to show in the pile the shovel that, well, what I'm saying is like like you're bringing my own tools.

1:23:51 Yeah. Why? No, that's the I throw the full scenario. Okay. The situation is. Yes. You didn't pay, and, you know, you're, you're going to. I think most people would hit point regardless of the pay. The fact that they're doing something so completely, 100% meaningless would overwhelm. Or my limit is going to be the describes my job, I mean, but so there'll be a breaking point to where you just can't take that.

1:24:17 I don't think the breaking point would be metal. I think the breaking point for me would be physical at that point, because my hands are very torn up. I'm going to be a wife. I'm not allowed to use gloves. I can't bring me. Like we'll compensate for the physical aspects. Like I'll give you all the gloves, no sex doll cleaning.

1:24:34 No, this is just the job. Mundane doing. I kind of wanted to do sets, nails like I wanted to put in sets of. So, like, I could, I could probably handle a couple weeks of this job, maybe 3 or 4 weeks. I could probably do this for like 3 or 4 weeks. This just just thinking that I know that it's mindless.

1:24:47 I'm doing it just to just to make some quick money that I can get it. But I'm there's no way that I could stay in that job for long term. I couldn't handle the mental aspect other because I'd feel like my time is being spent well, okay, so I've spent lots. I've done lots of jobs for lots of years where you had to just handle things mentally and do things mentally while you were here.

1:25:05 I feel like this job that I've had now, and I've kind of raised that factor, like, dude, like there's days where I can't do, like get paid to just sit there and wait for an emergency to happen. And I've been like, draw a lot more money. I've. Yeah. And so, so like, afterwards you bring your eight hour shift, you have all your discretion in a time.

1:25:26 Right? It's like that. Your personalized your personal what? I own you for eight hours a day, five days a week standard. There. I have done this for eight hours a day. Yeah. Do that till you give me ideas. Like think about stuff. I mean. Oh, do you think the typical person, even at that pay rate could last and that kind of job?

1:25:43 Dude, I've worked three jobs, whereas making $8 that I would literally probably do that for six months, at least in the rain. I did it for. I did it for is firmly, firmly, actually for years working those job, I've been trying to do it for about three years like almost. Right. So eight hours of shoveling per day will be grueling to your body?

1:26:08 Yeah, no doubt about that. Not only is it grueling physically, you have this like, mental fuckery of like, doing the same mundane tasks that has no fucking purpose with. If you also pay me to work out. So I'm getting stronger. I mean, you can view it that way, but over time it's going to tear your body down. There's no doubt about what you're going to get back there.

1:26:25 What I'm saying, I think the breaking point is going to be physical for me. I'm going out of the mental no, no, no, because see, that's the breaking point for me. Well, because your brain goes off and does other things, you're thinking about all these other things you're doing these other things, you have a rich inner life. I've seen you.

1:26:43 And if you're doing mundane bullshit, it's reasonable. Working together is, yeah, sure. We do it for like five year her like, well, let me ask you for free. So, so like know to to to make the scenario more complete. You'd be separated by too great of a distance to have fun. And so I'll, you could Yeah. Right.

1:27:05 There's an isolation. We'll train carrier pigeons to send messages. You have to add in the isolation factor of, like, you know, you're you're you're in your own headspace. Yes. This has a bunch of other people here. Okay. That's a whole other story. If you're by yourself. Social isolation is another really heavy component that weighs on you mentally because, the job to the man.

1:27:24 Now, because of Covid, they work in separate offices. It's like two people could be the room. Yeah. And that should just drives you crazy. So the bottom line of kind of what I'm getting at is like, there's a degree of like feeling valued, doing something meaningful, important like that, that it's not just the pay that keeps people motivated and employed as their job.

1:27:44 Right? If they feel like they're working for building towards something that's useful and purposeful and they have like a purpose driven career that will go way further than than how much pay. Yeah. You know, is yeah, I mean, it absolutely does. You become way less invested. You're doing the very minimum. You're you're doing the essence of that new movement.

1:28:01 Quiet quitting. Yeah. Right. I mean, but bear that, that that's a, that's a really interesting you know, that that that's just a flagrant neglect by management. Like asleep at the wheel. Management is the only way that like, quiet quitting is right. Because like, that means your manager has no idea what the fuck you're doing. Yep. Well, I iss just do your job and you're supposed to do it, not do the action, right?

1:28:28 Yeah. Oh, that's not how I see. I see it. It's like going out of your way to do so. I feel like those are two different things. I feel like doing your job and nothing extra is that is hashtag act your wage right. And then I feel like like wedding is another let fly. Quitting is like you're intentionally doing trying to do nothing.

1:28:47 Yeah I can't, I can't. You see how much. Yeah. Get away. Yeah I can't either. I feel like now I could do that. I feel such a deep fraud within myself. Like they're paying me. I should been it's like awesome. Use that on Abby. Yeah. There's plenty of, like, what do the military. It's all be. Was that. I was obligated for years, regardless how happy I was.

1:29:12 And now, regardless of what goes on in my life, I could quit my job, go do something else. I just had to stop. You know, I'm saying, you know what? Like I'm not obligated to be there. I tell you the truth. I didn't sign a freakin contract. That's the thing I think I could do your job. You speak of if you gave me a contract.

1:29:30 If you said you'll be done with this in a year, I bust that motherfucker. No, no, no, that that that. Because you have. But no, that's not that's gives you that mental hope in the future, right? Right. Like so that's not part of this deal. Yeah. Me. So I actually worked this job I had this job, the like, metaphorically equivalent of this job I worked, I was, I think I was 19, I was going to community college, and over the summer I had an internship or like, you know, summer job, as they call it, at a at a local factory.

1:30:02 Paper factory where my, when my, father had worked and, what they did was they allowed college students to come in as a parent or a relative that work there. You could get a summer job. No, that paid pretty well. Relatively speaking, it paid paid well. It was like it was good to give you a nice cash in your pocket to go to that school.

1:30:23 Right? You know, in the, in the fall. And so, anyway, my job was to in the basement of this factory and it was a paper making factory. And so they had like this pulp and kind of like some of the, waste products, which is still out onto the floor in this basement. In this basement, they had these like, cement platforms and which is really high powered motors that drove the machines were on.

1:30:46 And so all over this place down there, they had these really high pressure hose. There were only fire hoses. There were like these like, hoses that had like a tapered end into them. And they shoot at a really powerful jet of water. And what you do is you go down there and you'd have to clean up all this, like, waste that spilled out onto the floor, and you have to spray it into these, like, trough drain that went down the center.

1:31:08 Well. So you'd have to, like, work the work the water and the and the and the debris over to the hole, wash it all down the hole and put enough water down so it would all go out. So that was this other place where they would like, treat it and then like bring it to a waste disposal like either, landfill or they would like, put it in the river, like in a non pull anywhere, turn anywhere, pull it so it fills out grass, land and stuff.

1:31:35 Yeah. So what they would do is they'd take the water in from the river and then the water they put out their output would be cleaner than what they took out. Right. Okay. And so they gave her loads of do this and then I guess, but I guess one of the reasons okay, one could but they often don't take care of it's heat he waste.

1:31:53 Yeah it's still hot usually. But we're talking about like, you know, ways to bend the rules. Yeah. Right. So they, they had this, spill of some kind that was like toxic. And the EPA was coming in. So what they did was they they had the soil. Dug up and moved, and then they had new dirt brought in.

1:32:12 So the EPA came in and tested like the new dirt, new dirt that was even out. Hey. Wow. All kinds of shady shit. Particularities. Long story short, I was doing the same thing, and that's just like spraying. Oh, oh, hose wet all day long. Soaking wet. Wet. See what you know? You have rubber boots on that still, like you're going to saturate it, right?

1:32:34 Carefully spraying around all these motors. But it was the same thing over and over and over and over. The waste would come out. You'd spray it out, waste come out over here. You spray them like it's it was a function of a moving the dirt pile. And I was all by myself. It was like dark and wet down there.

1:32:50 Oh, it was like. It's like working in a fucking dungeon. And, I had to find my own special place, my mind, to make that, so that to make that real. What we're all talking about. I like play games in my mind. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's what we're saying. That's what lets you survive. It's almost like. It's almost like being in solitary.

1:33:09 I think of what comes to mind. Is Nelson Mandela in solitary for, you know, 30 years he was living in the house by yourself through the pandemic. Yeah. Well, dude, yeah. I mean, if I was in some kind of confinement situation, as long as I had some kind of way to, like, write or to, you know, draw or cigaret do something, I couldn't just be like, have nothing.

1:33:29 You know, I stimulation. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I gotta. Yeah, yeah. I was wanting to say one more thing is that, now equate this back to this idea of learned helplessness and equate this back to this idea of the technology divide and this idea of people that, if you look at the modern statistics on how much time people spend on screen time doing things like TikTok and YouTube videos and mindless stuff, is that you have the functional equivalent in people's, cognitive space of moving the dirt file.

1:34:01 No meaningful purpose. Right? And so people are actually in the modern era through technology, have actually learned, have a degree of learned helplessness. So where they've regressed to mentally moving the dirt pile back and forth all day long, that's the point of wireless. Tell us, is that there's this like, modern, feeling that I get from society at large where a majority of people feel like they have this sense of learned helplessness to where everything is too big, climate change too big.

1:34:33 What can I fucking do? Right? Right. Like threat of nuclear war, you know, like, you name it, all these big global problems or as and the silly learned helplessness which is brought people to this point where you're now just moving the dirt pile cognitively from point A to point B with their discretion. And there's various gradations of that, like the person who is, you know, like at work, this guy was talking about bills, like he's stuck in spreadsheets all day and he's just like, oh, yeah, he's pushing these columns of numbers and letters and all these things around, you know, it's like.

1:35:12 And yeah, some of it and disassociated from like the end point. Yeah. Like he doesn't get to see the finish. You know he just so there's not that sense of but yeah. Yeah. You just pushes these things around and he doesn't have any sense of being able to automate it. He doesn't have any sense of being able to create pivot tables or any of these other things.

1:35:29 Yeah. So it would help him. So if we separate the the concepts conceptual idea of work like labor for money. Right. And we separate all things out and just look at it as far as like transactional human actions where he what what I think that we're seeing through modern technology is we're seeing in the modern society, as it stands right now, is we're seeing a collective learned helplessness where people that are just stuck in a, in a rotation of, of basically zero output, zero tangible, productive output.

1:36:05 And so, so like in math, you have because because of automation, there's not a demand for meaningful as much meaningful labor saying I'm saying so. Anyway, the bottom line is that there's this like collective sense of learned helplessness, because most people feel disconnected with the ability that their actions are making positive change in the world. And so then collectively, what you get is just like just people regressing to this idea of moving a proverbial dirt pile from point A to point B, and then some point B to point A over and over and over spinning, going nowhere.

1:36:40 Yeah, right. And that's like scrolling Facebook or, or spending six hours a day on TikTok or whatever it was, pushing around data in a spreadsheet. Yeah. What the what the collective output of that stuff is, is zero. Yep. Right. And so I was just telling Sean, is that you take away the idea of labor and just look at human time, time, the time that a human being spends doing that's why is it doesn't matter what it is, how much of that is actually tangible production in life versus mindless consumption.

1:37:10 But all of this leads production versus mindless consumption. That's it. That's some break. But is but all of this leaves room for things like the uselessness of the job equate, you know, leads to at your wage or leads to going ahead and saying, fuck this, I'm quiet quitting because there is all of this. It's all baseless, useless. There's no you're not connected to the means of production or the endpoint.

1:37:38 So I, have like, you know, tried to have a version of a renaissance in my life. So where I'm progressing into a productive mode in most of my daily time. Right? Right. Just just for my own, setting my own life, like, controlling my own life instead of instead of being, a mindless consumer. Right? I want to be an actor, producer of something of tangible value.

1:38:05 Right. That's really hard to do. It is. And it makes you very abnormal. Well, the majority of human activity right now in America, at least, is mindless. It puts you outside of the flow of things where you're not consuming the same things as your peers, and you're not able to talk with them and connect with them as much.

1:38:21 And there's a cost of that. Yeah, it's warrior. Great point.