0:02 So we continue this crazy weather cycle, right? Lindsey just doesn't know what it wants to do. No. Yeah. It'd be. It'd be really cool to, like, just just something like the weather to, like, be able to really understand it, like, fully like, not just from the scientific perspective, but to like, like, legitimately understand, like what molecules are doing and how it's such a complex, dynamic system.

0:29 It was a.

0:34 There's a book or a series of book.

0:40 Again. Oh. Well, I started get rid of that jacket. Zipper just came off so nice. Here we go.

0:53 Yeah. Looks like I am.

0:56 So I was saying it would be, like, really cool just to take any freaking complex system and actually understand it. Yeah, there was a a book. I can't remember the full name of the author, but, the whole thing was the characters were these modern day people that did understand the weather from a as much of a scientific perspective as we could, but could also control it on sort of a magical level.

1:28 Okay, cool. They called themselves the Weather Wardens. Interesting. And they do. They do. They compete over the control? Yeah. Okay. And, you know, some are more benevolent. Some are more malevolent. It was one of the best series of books I've ever read. That's funny. Supposedly this conspiracy theory or some type of project where there's, like, this telescope array or, I'm sorry, some type, an array of antennas, intended array that somehow can control the weather.

1:59 I forgot the name of the project. There's a conspiracy that, like, there's no such thing as global warming or climate change. It's just the government is controlling. Yeah, that's the way to know my yada yada. I forgot that I used to know the the name of that, array of, antennas or whatever it is. Okay. I don't even remember where it is at this point, but supposedly there's this huge weather control modification, experimental project the government was working on.

2:28 I'll ask my resident conspiracy theorists at work. They should both. Between the two of them don't know instantly what I'm talking about. Yes. Yes.

2:40 So they're interesting fellows. They're both. Hurry! Yeah. Tesla. Man three. Six. Nine is the secret. Okay. All right. Thanks. Yeah. One of them is in the gematria. Heavily numerology and such. The other one, he's a little more grounded, but, you know why? Why base ten? Right. I mean, so, yeah, when you add up the the digits together.

3:07 Right? Like, see, see like eight and one. So 81 he adds there's nine, right? And no matter what, what number you have, it always goes back to nine, three, six, nine. Yeah. It's like see, Tesla knew everything. That's the secret. You know? What the hell are you talking about? What are you talking about? Okay. Yes, that's how the math works.

3:28 What? Yeah. It's like, so you've done some math problems, and you. I mean, okay, mapping letters to simple codes just doesn't do anything for me. It just don't really. The the can. The monster can is Arabic. That's six, six, six in Arabic. Right. So see, see like that. That little. The little claw monster of the monster energy drink.

3:54 Oh, like the little claw has these little like. Like where the claw first went in, you know, it's got, like, a little, little tip on it. So it almost looks like a, like a seven, but like a blunted version of the seven. Right. And so you have like, in Arabic that symbol is a six, right. So yeah, monster is just gonna be sure.

4:16 Six. Six. Six. Yeah. Well, it would be cool if it's the Mark of the beast. It's called monster. It's a nice little tie in. If they if they intended it, which I really don't think it did. I don't think they did. It looks like claw marks. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was just some stylized fall marks from some random graphic artist who wanted to go home.

4:32 Yeah, and all these celebrities are making this, like, you know, diamond shape with their eyes or a diamond shaped diamond shape, and it's a diamond shape with their hands and put in a circle over their eye and like all seeing eye of right, right. The all seeing eye of raw that is on the aluminum of our money and, you know, the Illuminati again, I mean, you know, maybe I am just incredibly naive here, but I just don't have faith in humanity enough to say we could organize and maintain this kind of thing for this long.

5:07 That's an interesting way of going about conspiracy theory. You were too stupid to do that. Yeah.

5:16 Interesting. You broke. You spoke the fourth wall and conspiracy.

5:23 I love it, but, yeah, I mean, especially listening to the people that believe in them. I'm like to see. The thing is, too, is that once you believe in a few of them, it's like a slippery slope. If you start to, like, more readily believe in additional ones. Yeah, I think about psychology. The thing is, is a kid and even a young adult, I had some pet ones that I really enjoyed using as like thought as parents are talking about.

5:48 Right? Yeah, I never really bring them up. But when people talked about them, you know, I knew enough about them. I could talk just like like messing around, kind of giving yourself a. It's like.

6:04 Not confining yourself to just what's in front of you, but saying, hey, there are things that might be greater than me, little bigger than me, something more than just what's in front of me. It certainly gave you that ability to reach out and grasp something else. Yeah. Conspiracy theories offer like, solutions to things that otherwise are, like, cognitively very difficult to understand.

6:27 Like. Well, yeah. And I'm not saying I would sleep over them or I would, I would do my best not fully internalize them. It was just like, so isn't religion the ultimate conspiracy theory? I mean, yeah, it is religion. Religion is so many things. I mean, so it's like we have this nature to pine for conspiracy theory to, to, to add some type of rationality in order to something that otherwise is understandable, unimaginable or disordered.

6:53 Right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, want to turn, you know, chaos into order. We want to take we're we're machines that want to make sense of the entropy around us. Yeah, sure. So, like, you know, megatons of, of aluminum hits the side of a steel building at extremely large, speed. So force the mass times acceleration. And so the acceleration vector is credible when the plane hits the building.

7:22 Right? Which makes the force number. The mass of the plane is massive. The mass of the building is fucking massive. Thing is, it's the with that kind of thing. It's something that's just what happened was not intuitive, because none of us have an idea of the scale of it. Right? That's exactly what I'm saying. And. Right. I mean, so like, you know, physics aren't the same as, like, what happens in the ocean isn't the same as what happens in your bathtub.

7:49 Yeah, right. Yeah. You can't scale your personal experience to the world. Right, right. So you have, like, this thing where, intuitively, you could say like, oh, well, hey, you know, if I take this little beaker or take this money mafia, it's funny, you take this a take this small graduated cylinder, let's say. Right, and a medicine dropper, and you start adding in the drops of.

8:20 Start adding in the drops. Why is this guy driving, like, through the parking spaces? I'm not really sure. Doesn't make any sense.

8:30 In the first lot, but hey, dropping somebody off or doing something. Okay, now it makes more sense. Yeah. So like, we were more or less diverting, distracted, but that's okay. So what I was what I was saying. A group of runners decided to split along both sides of us, and then a car, and then a truck from a Parks and rec decided to hurry us along, like because we were on the shoulder where we belong as walkers.

8:59 And. But this guy is driving like through the parking spaces instead of in the street. Okay, whatever. It's going to be a weird morning, apparently. Yep. I lost my zipper and threw it in the woods to start. Yeah, so I was. What I was saying is that when you have these different, understandings at scale, and then we try to take those understandings and strap them to, very large or very small systems, and it breaks apart.

9:22 So, for example, when if you have a graduated cylinder and a medicine dropper, you start adding drop by drop of water to the graduated cylinder. You can kind of see how with each drop, you can make an average for how much the water level rises per drop. Write and record it with pencil and paper, and make an assessment that, like, you know, every drop caused the water level to rise as much, right?

9:48 So the assumption if you were to go with the medicine dropper to the ocean and drop a drop of water in the ocean, that the the water level of the ocean rose just to just a small mathematical amount that you can't really detect it. Right. Well, really did it. I mean, did it actually, you know, more than likely you wouldn't be able to figure out if it did because you can't measure that.

10:13 So trillions of, of, of, of molecules just in the very facility of, of, of water have moved in and out of that system from the air. Yep. Just in the, you know, and you added a drop of old know. Right. And this is just in your immediate vicinity. Yeah. And then magnify that across the entire size and scale of the vastness of the ocean.

10:36 I know no matter how complex of a system of measurement you have, you can never measure a change in the ocean with adding a drop. And that's what I'm saying. You won't be able to figure it out. So the idea of saying with certainty that adding the drop of water to the ocean, raise the water level of the ocean by one drop is kind of silly.

10:52 Well, not exactly a closed system, right? It's an even if it's just so we're so we're what I'm getting at is we're so quick to take our experiences in one thing and assume that those experiences carry to to something of a different scale. Right. And, you know, because I mean, as you, we're just beginning to work at scale, right?

11:14 At, at world scale, much less Uber scale. We're pushing we're pushing our understandings of like the eternal kind of cosmic scale, the the infinite and the infinitesimal. We're pushing the marriages of quantum. And so we're we're pushing our understanding. And just like we were talking about yesterday, the ChatGPT history of physics, you know, we figured everything out into the big, the small, the cold, the hot.

11:36 Yeah, yeah, all the extremes. Yeah. It's good stuff, you know, but but, you know, we're pushing the boundaries in all this area and, and come to find out that the practical experience we have our scale. Right, which I don't really know how to quantify our scale, but our human scale is, is is not appropriate or doesn't apply to these other scales.

11:55 Right, right. So like the kind of what is it, the model of the atom. Yeah. Yeah. Like yeah. Kind of like a nucleus with this, you know, orbital bore died. We pretty much admitted you thought. Yeah, but it was like a model. That makes sense because it's like a planet with with bodies orbiting it, you know, kind of.

12:14 Right. So it's simple and it works. You can use that for certain things. It actually works for certain things. Right. But then the more we learn about how the actual physics of an atom. Right. Is this newer quotes. Right? Right. So the same is true like astrophysics, the way galaxies form and all this stuff, all these new technologies, the James Webb and all these things are shedding completely new light on the reality, on how these things happen.

12:42 And it was presumably there's a hell of a lot more to learn, right? And that's the greatest and most beautiful thing, I think, about being the human that we though we personally are, wherever it comes to even our senses on the base level, compared to just about any other animal. You know, usually some an animal has a better sense than we do out of the five, or has another sense we don't even have.

13:10 Yeah. So what do we do in the interim? Right. What we do in the interim is we fill it. We fill this with all kinds of conspiracy theories and imaginative, wild assertions about what, what what that domain is. But I feel like I feel like what, what science did was structure our suppositions, structure our our wild guesses are and really kind of ranging in the in a little bit and said, okay, if you follow roughly this whole, you know, if you follow basically these tenets and in this religion, you'll gain some more knowledge that's actually provable and useful.

13:52 Yeah, yeah. So then still though, people don't have the fortitude to where they can, they can take these understandings and extrapolate them. So like for example, the towers get hit, right? As for my earlier metaphor. And there's extreme physics happening here. Yeah. Scales that we don't even normally get the witness. Yeah. And more than likely, you know, thermite is getting created here because we've got a massive piece of aluminum shoving into I mean, all these buildings are made of.

14:22 Yeah. Well, I once remember my time. I really broke down my theory about that, I think so. What are you doing? Yeah. And so that's exactly, you know, part of the theory. You put all this aluminum with water, and then you have these beams now exposed because all the coatings. Yeah. I mean, and those iron beams. I mean, we've seen people build shit.

14:40 Yeah. They are rusty, right, right. So if you have all the ingredients for, just extremely high reactive, you know, extremely intense reaction. Yeah. You need a little room and you need iron oxide. You need water. The light, it and water. Right. And all those things are present, right? Yeah, in very large quantities. So anyway, you know, you put all that together and you start to have, like, a rational explanation for what happened.

15:06 But that's that's not what, it doesn't sound is so sexy. Yeah. Right. And and it's like, really requires a lot of research and study, investigation and thoughtfulness and science and. Right. And it's much easier to say that the that these big fat cats in government rigged the building with explosives and. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the thing when something big like that happens and you want to explain it, when a lot of people die, you better than most.

15:33 That's right. So you got instead of dying and dealing with the harsh pain of suffering associated with that, we just say, oh, they're in heaven now, right? So there's all these, like, cognitive traps that are it's almost like cognitive dissonance, that conspiracy theory is in these wild ideas about imaginative ideas, you know, kind of permit. Right? I will say, the women that are running out here, I think one of their measures of protection is running faster than any of the other men do, like they're running orders of magnitude faster than any of the other dudes.

16:08 My old man, when he was getting into marathons and was big on running. Yeah, is he'd go to the YMCA up here and with the like, with the good running group, and they would run down the street like, basically like Moorhead area. They had run down the street and they would look like they were freaking sprinting from mile after mile after mile.

16:29 And, the girl I was dating at the time was, was headed over to my house and she drove by and saw it. And she she described it to me. She's like, I've never seen anything like it. They were like, it's like they're running from from something like. Like. Yeah. Chased by something. Yeah. She said she never seen people in a group run like that.

16:49 I was like, I guess that's what real marathon trainers do. Like they. Yeah, they do sprint work and they do. Right, right. And Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that's what they're doing. Training for something real. True, true. I'm a that whole run for your life organization. It's a good it's like the perfect name. It's a good one. Yeah.

17:08 Because I mean, running an exercise like that is going to create longevity in theory. I mean, yeah, it depends on a lot of things that, you know, hey, we could still have a heart attack tomorrow, but we don't really know how to monitor and understand exactly the state of someone's vascular system. But yeah. So I remember one time to he was training for a travel on and was doing this long bike ride out to Myrtle Beach.

17:36 Oh, Jesus. And, they, they had this, like, not running over the car, but they just had this accident where multiple bikes hit each other and, you know, you're going to five, 30 miles an hour. Oh, yeah. You get hurt and you're wearing a stupid outfit and it has no protection. That's right. And, you know, he actually got hurt pretty bad, hurt his shoulder and, you know, got barked up pretty bad.

17:56 And just like, you know, generally speaking. Whoa, whoa. Speed crash, but still pretty significant. Yeah, but it's not low speed. We had no protection. Yeah. And so you can you can imagine, like, all the health gains from doing all this training and becoming really fit, just getting wiped out from a terrible tendon or or, you know, joint injury, but, you know, and so I remember seeing that and being like, yeah, I don't know if that's the right answer.

18:23 Right. You know, and then plus two for each person's body type, there's like an optimal fitness approach. There is there is like some people running is not the right answer. Right. And some people who are built to do that through, that's the optimal fitness approach. I mean, I've my her boss, right. Oh, he was the principal of this architecture firm.

18:53 This guy, the real man, he, was running like 25 to 30 miles a week. And that's not a lot, right, for some people. But it's like that was his. Just normal. That's what I do to get the stress of the day out, right? Yeah. And yeah. And he had been he was in his like 70s nice. I mean he was like that seems like a lot for bringing your 70s.

19:21 Yeah. Yeah. But he was fine. You know his knees didn't bother. Nothing bothered in his house for fun. That's what I mean. Certain people, certain body types just are better suited for that. Yeah. That was that was it. It was a perfect way for him to maintain his longevity and health. Now, me, I am a fucking meatball. Probably isn't the fan or Bane is.

19:44 That's what. That's how you say inside meatball workout. I don't know, maybe, but, the most I've ever run in one time is 12 miles. Wow. And, that was like, my whole life. That's the most. That's the longest I've ever run. A one and one I've ever run that far. I definitely walked that far. And I'm after running that far.

20:06 I was like, my body was not was not doing well. It was like it wasn't injured, but it was, it was just like, no, we're done. Yeah. It didn't seem like the best ideal for me. But now I can hike. Oh, yeah. Forever. Forever. Yeah. That that particularly hiking like I can. It's something about the environment. I'm hiking, I love it.

20:29 No being out in the woods and it is really my favorite thing to do. Yeah, I kind of get like in a trance almost all the same. And I'll just, you know, normally, like I said, my sense of direction sucks, but we're out in the woods. They have technology for that. Well, I'm saying when I'm out in the woods, I don't get lost.

20:45 Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. So, you know, different for different people. And then, a certain type of weight doing certain type of weight training, strength training and stuff, I can get gains really fast and certain type of certain type, but then other types of like citizen feel good. Like, some, some of the leg, like the leg press and those kind of activities are pretty good for me.

21:09 But when it comes to like the leg extensions, oh man, that just hurts my knees bad. Always has something about my knee anatomy. And so like I, I definitely go much lighter weight one of those kind of things. Yeah. But overall when I'm spend some time in the gym, but like everything I do, I always get carried away with it.

21:29 So like, I'll be doing something and then like, I'll overdo it, you know? And now my body's not back in the gym for four days because I'm just whipped, you know? Right. Because why in the hell did I spend two hours when I should have spent 30 minutes and done it again the next day? Exactly. So I'm still, even after all these years of, you know, trying to be healthy and be in good shape and stuff, like, still trying to figure out a really good formula, right?

21:55 You know, I'm closer to it now than I've ever been, but still, I know I'm away away from cracking the code on that. I, I mean, I don't really like going to the gym, but I've always gained a muscle pretty quick. I don't know if I, I do it this age because I haven't really done anything except for two.

22:18 The only thing I'm doing right now is doing a rowing machine and doing a push ups and, like, three different kinds of crunches and then doing a walking. Yeah. Not even lifting any weights early. Right, right. But yeah, I mean, and my legs hurt every day if I have their, my hamstrings are really tight and I've got.

22:49 You know, I was, I was a free me and I've got all kinds of leaders, but, yeah. So the leg thing never really bothers me because my legs are already hurting anyway. So I can do, like, every day. Nice. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, I mean, I love walking and hiking and that kind of thing. Going to the gym and lifting weights.

23:17 Just not into it. Yeah. I think what's inevitably going to work for me, like the optimal, will be to like, get with someone that's a really good sports scientist type person. Right? It's on the optimum for you. Yeah. And and actually put it on a training schedule that you commit to, like that whole thing, like, becomes a real part of your life, right?

23:35 Where it's like what your dad was doing where, hey, you know, most of his free time. Is this for sure? For sure. It was. It was funny. I'm not to spend too much time talking about him, but, it was it was funny because there was this point where he was training so hard for so, so long each day that it was almost like he couldn't keep calories.

23:55 Oh, shit. So he would, like, come home and fry a piece of salmon and butter and then eat like a pint of Ben and Jerry's because he had to. He had to just to, like, just to try to catch up on the calories. Yeah. Because they're burning so much. Yeah. Because his, his basal metabolic rate was stratospheric. Yeah.

24:12 It's like he couldn't get enough calories in the body. Yeah. Offset. His body was just just sitting there burning cellmate game calories Yeah. And then once it gets into that really fast calorie burn, you know, cycle plus all the, you know, muscle repair and cellular repair, right? From all these, like, massive, intense workouts every day. Your body's on overdrive, right?

24:33 Yeah, probably like what most people wish they could have. Yeah, right. I mean, but but the actual commitment to it was intense. Was was major. And with all the and, and I mean, he's, I'm not talking to him here, but he's a guy of smaller stature. Yeah, yeah, he's fine for whatever. Yeah. So, I mean, it was like, I would imagine it'd be even more difficult to keep the calories.

24:58 Eight calories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was a point where he was doing really good. It's doing really good with it. It's like kicking ass. Oh, yeah. And, I remember being, like, relatively proud of him because he was actually like, you know, scoring high in some of the competitions, and that's incredible. He like starting to get a name, you know, in the community.

25:17 That's awesome. Yeah. Pretty cool. There's one time he was at the Y and he was doing pull ups in the pull up bar. And you know, he's smaller frame guy at the time. And it was like, really quite thin. Yeah. And, very cardiovascular fit. And so, like, due to pull up was a little easier. You have this huge mass to lift, right?

25:37 Of course, is in really good cardiovascular shapes. Right. He's sitting there doing pull after pull up, pull up after pulls on the bar. Yep. And when he tells the story, he remembers, like all of a sudden he looks over and there's like eight people watching it, like, wait a minute. You're not supposed to be just hanging on the bar doing pull, pull up.

25:55 Right, right. You're supposed to be like, stopping. Yeah, but he's just like, cranking 12, 15 of them out. Like it's nothing and just hanging in the bar, pausing for a second and doing some more. And then, you know, and then like, all of a sudden 20 more, and then all of a sudden 15 more, you're like, what's this guy doing, right?

26:12 Like Jacqueline type shit. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, whenever I think of your dad being that fit, that's kind of who I was picturing. Almost. Exactly. Wayne. Yeah, like. Well, I feel like your dad body type is kind of like Jack Lyons was back in the day. Yeah, yeah. No, no real bulky muscles, but, like.

26:34 Yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. And, you know, we'd, like, wrestle around or whatever. You screw around sometimes like that. And I was still overpower him, but it was just a size thing, right? Like, no way to have the stamina, right? He can just keep going. Yeah, you just keep going. But, like, he could be overpowered because, you know.

26:52 Yeah, because he was just small. Yeah. It's like someone's 50% or more of your weight. They're going to get you. And. Yeah, and they're not necessarily fat. You know, they're not too out of shape themselves. Yeah. It's just the size. It's just a physics thing. Yep. And so I wouldn't try to run him.

27:12 Like, maybe it's written down to the end of the road, but that's it. So Willow Summers little girl, he's like seven, right? Dude, she just naturally. So the whole family naturally has a lot of muscle. But Willow actually, naturally is inclined to eat pretty healthy and shoots herself very active and and thin. And I think it's just going to be a lifelong habit.

27:37 Like, it's just what you need to do, you know? Right. Yeah. Good for her. And same with vegan. Good. And so Willow. I'm my god she's got a six pack and she's seven. You know, an eight pack when she's nine, right. Because she's got a six, but she's got a six pack and she can she can just run like hell.

27:58 She's always just taking me running. Nice. That's cool. And it's like, it's really getting to the point where, you know, I'm a fat old man, kind of out of shape. I'm like, yeah, I can't really keep up with you anymore. I've got my legs are like, twice as long as yours. And, that's that advantage isn't really helping.

28:19 Well, that'll make her feel good. Yeah. Like that's empowering for her. Right. Well she can. Yeah. Win. Yeah. Like like when an adult says, you know, I can't even keep up with anymore. That's that's pretty powering for a young person, I think. Yeah, definitely. So because you grow up, you grow up. You know, when you're so young, you grow up like, you know, feeble compared to least it feels that way compared to adults.

28:41 You just there's so many things you're told you can't do or they won't even let you try. Yeah. And then and then you just kind of always see yourself as, like, wanting to be like the adults. Yep. Not understanding that these adults wish they had your energy and your youthful exuberance. Right? Right. But she's got two older brothers, so it's even worse for her.

29:00 Yeah, yeah. She sees them do all these things and wants to do them. Right? Right. Good. Well, that might be like indirectly a great motivator. Oh, yeah. Which is actually, at the end of the day, a good thing. I totally want to take her to a.

29:14 All right. So there's this wrestling gym that Gavin started going to. And.

29:22 Because of his socioeconomic status and the fact that he hasn't been wrestling very long, basically all these people are jumping at the chance to give him some specialized in the hands on training. And.

29:38 Like so he's benefiting from that. But they also told him, hey, you can go to this gym for free, but so can your sister, you know? Okay. Yeah. That's cool. And they have basically, for the purposes I don't know how else to succinctly phrases. It's like a toddler fighting ring. Pretty much. There's a visual. So it's like they got kids from, you know, three up, who are training in various things from jujitsu to, you know, actual wrestling to a, you know, crowd.

30:15 McCall. So she's up there like Chuck Norris reincarnated. I mean, that's what I'm scared of. Oh, I'm afraid that, you know, because I'm just looking for them to. While they're teaching this teacher some anger management team. Yeah, yeah, like at the discipline side of the martial arts. Yes, yes. Because, Jesus, she's already hard to contain if she gets mad.

30:40 Nice, nice, nice. It's all about constraint. Let the enemy defeat themselves.

30:48 Okay? Okay. I love all that, like, great sounding shit. Right? And then, like, the person actually gets in a real fight someday and gets like they're actually kicked because they're just because it's real. Yeah. Because fighting is not philosophy. Fighting is gritty and nasty. And, you know, you're using your environment to the fullest. I mean, every time I've gotten a fight, it's like, how can I inflict the most pain on the other person?

31:17 So they stop? Yeah. And there's a there's a big stick right there. Yeah, exactly. Or that there's a big rock right there. I, there was a church I would fight at, and there's this kid, Jeremy Rumsfeld, and he was bothering my brother Colt. So I took on the fight. And, you know, some day we're gonna have to go back and scrub the real names out of our podcast where it went for too big.

31:41 I mean, you know, I'm just going to say Jeremy didn't, like, keep you around too long, even in, like, fifth grade, so we're probably okay. All right, all right, all right. Okay. No reason. No reason. We can't defame the dead. I don't. Plus, we can make up anything we want because they can't exactly refute our story. So, how come you guys only talk about people that are dead?

32:07 Well, you know, no lawsuits that way. Yeah. And so pretty much he was coming at me, and, I mean, I was beating his ass. He was my age, but he was like a grade lower. Yeah. And,

32:31 I was damn proud of myself. But then his his older friend showed up. This kid was in sixth grade, like I was, but he was 15. Okay. Yeah. All right. Nothing like a nice thing. Like a grammar school with the beard. Right? So the whole idea was, like you said, by sheer size and physique, he's just going to kill me.

32:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's already finished puberty, right? You're like. You're like, see his Adam's apple? Yeah. And like, I've just, for all his purposes, started it. Yeah. So at least he's got nuts that have dropped that you can then kick so. Well. So. Oh wow. So we looked back at something. It was there yesterday. Oh the bank the bank has been there.

33:14 The seed for the birds. Something like that. Oh give thanks to the Lord for he is good advisor. It's a trap. 107 one. Don't touch his trap. Yeah. Probably in.

33:32 So, Basically.

33:39 He fell. Jeremy had long hair, and I kept grabbing his hair and, you know, hitting his face to my knee or grabbing his hair and throwing him into this, like, sign at the church, or. Yeah, long hair seems like a liability in an actual fight, doesn't it? Yeah. It's a handle. Yeah, it's like a liability. So, you know, doing, doing whatever I can do.

34:00 Basically, I just want to see the look of the feet in this kid's eyes and I'm done, right? Yeah. And fucking well, Jason keeps telling me he's like. And I know this guy's probably doing some crazy stuff. He was the last I heard he was pinched for, assurance fraud. Running a team of people who are committing insurance fraud.

34:23 Oh, boy. So, this guy, your roof has hail damage? No, it was it was like cars, like they were getting in wrecks. Oh, okay. They're running some kind of skiing there. Yeah. Oh, boy. And so he, he's like, don't grab his hair. Don't do this. Don't do that. I'm like, dude, it's a fucking fight. Right, right, right.

34:47 There's no rules here. Yeah, right. This was we didn't sign a list of rules as part of the association before we step into the formal event. Right, right, right. And my brothers are there, too. And. Well. But you're biting. Even that situation seem wrong. But anyway, go ahead. And pretty much this guy, I guess he had been trained in fighting much more than me.

35:13 Because what he started doing. No, you're your comes out around the side of your head, right? He started slapping me on my nerves on seeing, like, flashes of light. What the hell? I've never even heard of this. I didn't know people did this. It's like clapping someone's ears or something. Yeah, but he started doing that, and. But he was doing it and said, I mean, did you do that too hard to somebody?

35:35 You'd kill him, right? I guess get someone to her anywhere. He'd kill him. Yeah, well, I mean, you can't take too much damage to the temple, I guess. Okay. He's doing that, so I'm totally disoriented. This other kid, he's, like, laying in the crumpled heap, and, Well, I try to kick this guy's drop nuts. I miss that.

36:01 Just misses him the fuck off. He comes at me, and I mean, dude, he just picks me up and then drops me like a pancake in a pan, and he's like, by the time he's done, I end up looking like I have down syndrome. My face is that swollen. Welcome to the positive edition. And then a special. And, this happened in front of my brothers.

36:26 I was in, like sixth grade. I thought I was a badass, as it were. And, I definitely got taken down quite a few notches. But the next day I did manage to bloody his lip. Nice. I'll see you went back for more. I'm a dumbass, you know. I went back for more. All right, all right, Chris, think about my personality.

36:46 Of course I went back for more. Yeah, it's like you hit me to the point of my eyes are. No, it's one shot. Sure, I'm going to come back and fight to the next day.

36:57 Reminds me of, like, family Guy cutscene where Peter is, like, standing there shirtless in the rain, right loose, just balled up, ready to fight, like five, five, like, you know, troubled youth, high school type of thing. Karate kid. Like, when you get surrounded by the Cobra Kai type thing. Yeah. He pushes himself in the face and blaze his own nose.

37:16 And so someone's gonna die tonight. Oh. That's great. Well, that was you going back to school the next day. Well, ultimately, what happened was completely psycho. But they pushed us together, and I was scared as hell. But I was like, I have to. I have to come out on top on this one. I have to win the Social War, you know?

37:36 Yeah, yeah. And so I managed to bloody his nose before. Thankfully, people ripped us apart.

37:44 So it wasn't me being the psycho. It was me realizing if I don't win, I'm fucked. I remember there was always that one kid that like you, you you go to fight and if nobody is around, they check it out. But if the teacher was like within earshot, they'd, like, start talking loud and acting all tough. Yep. That was always love that one.

38:03 Oh, that was hilarious. And you know, I'm always, like, weird about calling out things like that. Like getting those intuitions and then verbalizing them. Yeah. It's like, oh, look at you, Mr. Tough. Now that you know, the teachers right there. Yeah, right. And then then backing out of that particular instance myself, waiting for him to be alone again or isolated and be like, so you want to fight now?

38:24 And you also have to hope that they're not crafty than you, and they haven't prepared for this moment in some screwed up way. Nah, that never happened. I was always able to out in b, B have a higher intuition and understanding of those dynamics. Generally I as well the I only got my ass beat twice. The other story you guys have already heard, which was when I got roundhouse kick to the face the same year as this other fight.

38:48 She just had a few years where you're fighting a lot. Yeah, from like fourth grade to eighth grade. Gotcha. And it was I was really small, so that was part of it. Gotcha. They were kind of just like, yeah, you're small. I'm gonna pick on you. And I was like, yeah, you can pick on me, but, I will try to fight back.

39:09 Yep. I guess this point where, like, you get a kid that's like, feel feels relatively small and somewhat cornered socially, you know, by the peers, always, like, kind of pushing around bullying in some sense, but just kind of manhandling. It gets to the point where that happens to you enough and you start fighting back in one night, even getting beat.

39:28 There's this point where it's like, you just get hardened and you're not scared anymore. Like it's like once you've been down that path enough, it's not that it's so familiar. It's just you're just you lose the fear of it. Like it's weird, right? You know? Yeah. I mean, I never kind of had a lot of fear came to it.

39:49 Yeah. Most of the time I had, I believe, some misplaced confidence and also could, think pretty quick. So usually, like you said, the intuition, the, you know, ability to just do overpowered most people in most situations. Yeah. And I kind of like within early first run of college, like, you know, early out of high school, like 19, 20 years old, started to really lose my desire for getting in fights because all man, even though I had won a lot one most of them, if not all of them, I had gotten hurt several times, like from the fight, and then had to suffer for days afterwards recovering.

40:28 And that just sucked. I didn't have any fights after.

40:33 Ninth grade. I mean, I mean tried to stay out of them that to that. There's this one roommate I had and he was talking about how he'd been wrestling for years and years, and I talked about how I'd done some wrestling. And then he started grabbing me. I was like, hey, get the hell off me, right? This like a bus stop?

40:51 Yeah. If something you say did this move where you're, like, grabbed my arm and we came down together on the ground and it mashed my shoulder into my into the socket. Oh. And, yeah, I did a few moves on him and I ended up pinning him. But that's not the point. The point is like for the next four months, I like this terrible shoulder pain.

41:08 While my shoulder joint was like, you know, recovering from the damage it suffered. Yeah. And like, even now, to this day, if I sleep wrong, there's still a little bit of tinge in there, right? So like, fuck it, man. It's just not worth it sometimes, you know, just to prove something. And it was all when you retrospectively look back at it, it was all through nothing.

41:29 Right, right, right. It was all like, sorry. It was all like at the end of the day, 100% meaningless. Yeah. Like it had no bearing or lasting impact. It's it felt like it in the moment. But then retrospectively, in your over the arc of your life, you realize it was. But but it's hard to have that perspective. It is.

41:49 Look at this interesting thing. And this will be like what we close with if there's a tree and where the tree itself provides, almost like an umbrella system to the sidewalk below, there's a white spot underneath the tree where mold has not grown. Yeah. How is that? That is crazy. Dang. Beautiful nature is cool.