0:00 And copy all the shit. Okay. If there's a problem to be had, I will usually have it. I've never. I can't even believe it because his mind was, like, literally plug and play, right? And that's what it looks like. You know, it's like.

0:16 You would, you know, because as soon as I plugged up the USB, it gave me the option to go to that mode. USB power and no separate cords. Yeah. And I tried his Mac. I tried my windows machine, I tried a windows VM, and I tried Linux. I couldn't even see it with LSU SB when I'd plug it up.

0:39 Could possibly have had two bad cords. Could have totally. I mean, all the cords I have are dogs. I mean, they're old. You know, it's a crap I did randomly. Yeah, right. Okay. I don't think I bought anything. You know, you're like, you've been using to charge only cords. Maybe.

1:06 It's funny, like, you know, something like that can cost you a whole evening. Yeah. I was up until. Yeah, probably like one in the morning watching with it. And I was like, what the hell else would I try? That's funny.

1:21 So any particular topic of interest this morning? Oh, Jesus. Have you had anything on your mind? Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah. Right.

1:37 I mean.

1:41 Guess nothing seriously pressing. Oh, we'll put you. Yeah. I was thinking about, Oh, lately. Lately, I've just been thinking about, like, some really kind of bizarre metaphysical things, like, kind of, you know, big picture analysis of lifestyle type thing. Okay. So, when I was talking to the other day, I was kind of describing it like this idea of, you know, worried about a report.

2:13 You know. Yeah. You know, or some stupid shit when we're, like, this culmination of this incredible process, you know, we're just beginning to understand. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so, like I was saying, it's it's probably worth repeating. You know, it's kind of like, you know, cosmic magnificence. Yeah. Put it this, this, like, perfectly tuned universe and all this kind of stuff they talk about, you know, this fantastic.

2:42 You start off with some kind of massive energy release, whether that was from a divine, you know, thought, right, or from a big bang or some kind of other thing. Right. Yeah. You start out with, at best something like quantum foam or, you know, quantum foam. There you go. You know, some strings and you know, who knows? Yeah.

3:01 And you know it. God farts, right? Right. Something something perturbs the natural flow. And, you know, a reaction. It's like. But we don't know what the perturbing the the event that perturbed things was. Like you said, God farted fucking. You know, something happened. I like that so much better than, you know, God's will. Like the idea that God farted in everything transpired from that.

3:29 I mean, like, put things in a better perspective. To me, it just makes sense, because. Have you experienced that the universe seems to have one hell of a sense of humor? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. It's got to be a cosmic joke, right? Yeah. Like. Oh, humans. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's. It's like he farts and then moves on to the next room.

3:50 And when he comes back, we're here. Yeah, we think we're special. We're just. We're a fart in the multiverse. Right. Like actual. Like true divine creation was like some other one. Different species. You know, we haven't met yet, but just, you know, that finds that that knows that we're just the fart. Yeah. This wasn't on purpose.

4:11 Listen. Yeah. This idea that, you know, boom. Big bang energy, right? Energy condensates into matter. Matter through gravity. It creates, you know, into, you know, bodies, heavenly bodies. Dark hydrogen starts to gather. Then you get this, like, kind of swirling disk of gas, and then you have a cellular nebulous form. And then from there you have, like, these.

4:36 Supernova and stars exploding and all the heavy elements being created. Right. And then inevitably, planets and galaxies, solar systems, etc., then through some kind of miraculous process, slowly, you know, inorganic material coalesces, gets selected for, you know, positively. Yes. The more complex amino acid structures are favored, you know, in a, in a primordial soup or whatever the best term is for that.

5:06 I mean, sounds like a good one because we don't even know what that was. We can't even recreate it. We can't make primordial soup in the lab. Sure. And you get this, like, kind of amino acid kind of phospholipid layer thing, kind of go in and then, you know, first kind of cell. Oh yeah. And it does a little better than, you know, the, the less complex forms.

5:25 Right. Right. Because of the lipid layer probably. Oh my god. Yeah. The next thing you know, you start to have, you know, replication of this and then inevitably the first. So. Yeah. So then from there, you know, we go on and on and on and on and on. So you'll say your life, multicellular life, photosynthesis, all this happy horseshit.

5:44 Yeah. And then and more than likely, it's only one track thing things could have taken because we can now make amino acids are in nature. True. Right. So there's no real, you know, just the path that it took. And then, you know, all these different environmental factors and crazy things, you know, came to alignment. The probability is not even infinitesimal.

6:08 It's so small. And so here we are creatures made of stardust. Yes. You know, and the more for certain heavy elements we wouldn't exist. Right. From supernova, you know, motherfucking carbon carving. We're born. We're born from stars, you know, and we spend our days worried about getting the getting the project in on time. Yeah. I mean, seriously, and I said it last night, my thrust of the week has been, you know, I submit the correct things for my boss to up to his boss.

6:45 Like the miracle of existence and the probability of the moment. You know, miraculously unfolding before our eyes every moment of every day. And we're worried about, you know, getting the fucking reporting on time or going to Home Depot and running the,

7:03 Running a little dump truck thing to cart shit cart mulch around or something like that. Yeah. You know, is my girlfriend cheating on me? You know? And, you know. Well, can I afford that medication or, you know, who knows what your first world problem is? Yeah. Because what? We've created a situation where they are very rich and varied.

7:28 Yeah. Yeah. They distract us from contemplation of everything. Yeah. So we we almost can't live the moment because of the, you know, externalities. And it's weird. It's like, wow, that's a lot of busses. There's a lot of busses. It's like a king working. It's like a king working as a servant and not knowing the servant. Right. Like not understanding that there's a king.

7:55 Yeah. Like, they they didn't misplace, you know, it's like to, Yeah. It's like the person born of noble blood that doesn't know that they're no bill, right? Right. They're nobility. And, like, everybody shits on them. And it's like you spend your whole life just. Just hoping to wake up that one morning and get recognized finally as nobility.

8:16 And, you know, really, I'm just saying river power might be in the universe. Can't have wanted that for us. We we certainly don't want it for ourselves. And we are self-aware and.

8:30 Yet, if you just think about the, the, you know, the, the the amount of the amount of photons that hit the Earth every day, you might have geothermal and, you know, material energy there is on the Earth, not just in stored carbon, but in right, but actively accessible. You know, like, you know, geothermal power plant, obtainable, you know, photovoltaic panels usable.

8:58 So it's like enough energy and resource on the planet, you know, by far for everybody to live like the king that they are, you know, Queen, that they are. You know, we've we've we've stumbled into somehow this like, really bizarre for like a bit of terms kind of distortion of, you know what the reality is because we gated everything.

9:20 I feel like it's like, you know, okay, you can get access to things, but you have to jump through these proper hoops first. Okay. You can do this. You can do that. But you almost have to prove your worth at each and every stop. To who? I mean, what worth even talking about? Like, isn't it built in by default based on what I just described?

9:41 I agree with you. Like, you know that it is. But I feel like society has all these, like, I don't know, I tend to look at them as almost like these useless tests you must pass.

9:55 Like a, I guess what I'm trying to say is like. All right, so the Russian oligarchs, right? The billionaires of the world, the the millionaires, they.

10:12 Navigated successfully, this slalom of society and economics and politics to get where they are. And I feel like that's where the that's the gates. That's the maybe. No, I mean, what what's what's just having a lot of money. I mean, you still you still put food in the front side and take out the back side. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying they, you know, we're talking about having the freedom to contemplate, to to think on things, to reach one's potentiality, to not be to be fully actualized.

10:46 Right. Okay. They can do that.

10:51 Because they have all of these resources. They can do whatever the fuck they want. They could become self-actualized people on the order of Mother Teresa or whatever. That's that's self-actualized. Well, I mean, I guess the concept of self-actualization, you say you reach your own personal highest degree of potential or. Well, yeah. Okay. Sure. I see what you're saying, but.

11:19 But. Why is the school bus so loud? I don't know, Jesus, like, doesn't sound like a good design. But anyway, so, you know, when I look around, I don't see it that way. I see it, like, maybe maybe that's my problem. I don't know, but I, I see this, like, self actuation, if you're for lack of a better term, you know, would be like knowing that the infrastructure is like working for people, you know, that like life is working for people.

11:52 Yeah. And, you know, I guess what I'm trying to say is if if I had enough resources to just explore myself and do whatever I wanted to do and become the best version of myself that I wanted to be, that's what I would consider self-actualized freedom to become.

12:14 What you feel like is the best thing. Other people may subjectively term it. Otherwise, I don't know. Well, maybe. Maybe, like, I just don't understand why everyone doesn't see it the way I see it, like I don't. I can't understand how people would wouldn't want other people to be able to do those things. That what you're saying? Yeah.

12:36 So you know what? If you if you know somebody. Well, not someone you dislike and you just know somebody in general Queens and you know them well enough so they're not really a friend, but at the same time, they're not an enemy. You know, you're just you're aware of them. And and for all intents and purposes, you're relatively fond of this other person, right?

12:58 Sure. And, you knew they were hungry. For example, why wouldn't you feed them? Like. No, not not. Why wouldn't you say you would like. You wouldn't even think about it like so. You'd say it's a person who said to you. I'm hungry. You'd be like, oh, well, let's go get something to eat. Yeah. You know, you wouldn't even think twice about it.

13:20 I agree with you. And nobody I know, you know or have ever known would say, oh, sucks for you. But a lot of times a lot of, like, people are a small minded and local enough that they can do it for people they're close to and they know. Right. But they can't fathom the idea of using their hard earned money or taxes to feed layabouts or whatever you want to call them people who are useless or lazy.

13:49 What I'm saying is, I just don't think that's true. I think that like every anybody in the moment. So like, if nobody else was around, okay, like we're walking, just you and I were walking down the street like we're at right now, right? And some of the pops out right here, it says I'm hungry. Well, I don't know.

14:05 That might be a little different because I know that's a little different because it's like, And that's what I'm saying. That is different people that, you know, you can have direct compassion for easily know. So the person popping out right now and said, and, you know, said, I'm hungry to us. And it wasn't just like that classic street interaction where you feel like it's just a scam with a really asking for money.

14:28 Right? That whole hustle on the street thing, if it was like we both believed legitimately that person was hungry. Yeah, right. Instantaneously we don't bring efforts to eat. Yeah, right. Like it's different in that context because it's just like the street hustle at that point. But what I'm talking about is like, instead of a, you know, like a 40 year old man, you know, doing that.

14:51 Yeah. You know, there's like a seven year old boy on the street, got you, pops out where you just assume this person doesn't have the guile to lie. Yeah. This is not a seven year old street hustler, right? Yeah. Seven year old, you know, child or their yet, like, you know, a small boy is that all of a sudden on the road at 630 in the morning.

15:12 Right. And you're, you know might be driving by May see this. No. And we're right here. Yeah. We would instantaneously automatically help that kid. Yeah. 100%. Right? Right. That is brilliant. Yeah. It's nice. And so, but that and that's true for, like, I've never met someone that's not true for. Right. So like and I guess what I'm saying is I agree with you, but I feel like it's true on a small scale, but it's harder for human beings, or at least some of them, to want to donate on larger scale or give.

15:51 Yeah, on a larger scale. I hear you, I hear you. But what I'm getting at is that there's this just like, automatic, like saying that I want, at least automatically, for no one around, no one in the entire world to be hungry. Right? Right. It's like, why would I wish that upon anybody? No, it's the most it's one of the most terrible states you can be in, and it cripples you.

16:18 Sure. And now keep inserting things there, like you say, hungry or hurting. Yeah, right. Or, lonely or what's the hurry, you know, how do we explain? You know, the half of our two party system. That seems like they relish it. Well, you know, I, I can't explain it. That's. And that's the that's the thing I'm talking about.

16:40 So, like, when we when we look past the the periphery, we look past the errata, we look past the, you know, the, the, the nonsense that we're all caught up in. And we just look at this big picture shit, you know? Yeah. And we wonder, like, collectively, like, what are we working towards? Right. If it's not somewhat working towards, you know, no hunger and, you know, remitted disease or disease will be around.

17:07 So, you know, like manage disease you know, and clean water, you know, clean it. It's it's it's it's so like, degrading to humanity, if you will, that those things exist, you know, so it's like, I don't, I don't necessarily like, sit around thinking about it, you know, personally, like feeling bad and all that kind of stuff.

17:32 But when I look at it as a, as a big picture item, you know, the idea that we that, that there's so many people in this world, you know, suffering from all these different reasons, you know, whether it be an industrial complex of some kind or, you know, political thing or, you know, and so forth. You know, whatever it is that's causing that is basically like.

17:57 What's what's the best work, almost like a stain on humanity. Yeah. Yeah. And Sam and I have talked about something similar. What we were talking about is, you know, if you were truly on the outside looking in, would you want to pretty much quarantine you because of what appears to be a sickness we have where we're okay with that.

18:22 We're okay with, you know. Well, that's how I keep going to say I don't think we are okay with it. Right? That's the thing is, it's like we're you kind of said earlier, like we're in the we're in the system. We're in this like, you know, so so there's a there's enough energy, there's enough food. There's enough. There's enough, you know, material not seem to be the appetite to use it to help everyone.

18:49 There seems to be the appetite to try to be a billionaire.

18:56 Yeah, but what the billionaire has to exist in the society. Okay, but it seems like that's the thrust of everyone's. Yeah, well, maybe that's just because of, you know, our culture here in the United States. We've gotten into this idea of individualism and, you know, greed and consumerism and all this kind of stuff. Yeah. And people have been caught up for that for some time.

19:16 Oh, yeah. Many, many, many iterations. But, you know, I'm not right. And I guess. Look at that. I look at capitalism as it's not. It's not going to truly work unless you add the human equation. And I think we've lost the human equation in our everyday interactions and, and in our daily calculus as individuals and as government said, it's on every level, people.

19:44 It's not necessarily okay to think of the human side first, but it should be. Yes. I mean, I don't want someone that's a billionaire to like say, okay, here's society, take all my money. No, not that I want to see billionaires saying, you know, how can I apply my influence? Yeah. Moonshot products or moonshot projects? You know, big, big deals that could have massive impacts.

20:12 Yeah I agree. You know, kind of change. Change the equation. Use their use their power and influence to change the aquarium. And but what I'm trying to say is I think I think every business should be similar to what? Okay, you have a nonprofit that is focused on philanthropy through technology. Why aren't we looking at the human side first with everything, not just a technology, philanthropy, a you know, option?

20:45 Why aren't we saying, oh, I have a small business here. I employ two people. You know, I really think it should be all right. Incumbent upon the person who owns the business and brings his people in to think of the human side of things with every decision they make, not necessarily what is the most profitable thing for me, but what's sustainable, what's helpful to the people that my business serves or affects, you know, things like that.

21:19 What's the point of the business? And again, with I mean, if you go bare capitalism without the human equation, you say for the purpose of the business is it's a profit making institute. But if you go, oh, well, you're really lost. And that's what I'm saying. But if you go with the question, you say the purpose of the business just might be to integrate into the community, add something to the community you didn't have before, you know, build up.

21:44 I said, if skills and capabilities in the community, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, it makes a little more sense. It'd be kind of interesting if every business that was getting started had to demonstrate how they're actually going to be a benefit to the community, but I think that was the requirement at one point and it went away.

22:07 I think it was one of those software requirements that we did just because we were we had a different culture and we were, I dare I say, I mean, I noticed all just dangerous because nostalgia is pining for a time that really never existed. But, you know, well, you can you can find for an attribute that that's even better in the past.

22:26 That's true and not not as a whole. In the attribute that I, I guess we're both pining for is that people gave more to their communities, but it helped the people who they saw were the lowest, gave people a chance.

22:45 Yeah. So so, you know, this this kind of idea. Imagine this no matter what, measures, there was some kind of, like, core baseline human rights where everyone was guaranteed food, clothing, shelter, will clean water. You know, it's like it's just a fucking guarantee. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You know, you can have, like, you could be a serial killer.

23:03 No. All let's be more realistic. You can be, you know, you can. Drug addict. Yeah. You could be. You could be a not wanted member of society. Yeah. You could still feel fully entitled to all those things. Yeah. Like there's a there's a homeless dude around here. And Johnny, that he's a good guy, you know, he. And for whatever reason, he's decided just to not participate fully in, the rat race.

23:29 And, you know, he does odd jobs around here. Yeah. He helps. He helps this one guy in our neighborhood mow lawns. He works at the barbecue place over here for money and food, you know, things like that. Maybe it comes down to that. This idea of, like, you know, but if he had that basic income, you know, and all these things.

23:50 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Indignity. Dignity. Yes. Who knows what he could be? Yeah, I see, I do. I see people all the time. Like I see people all the time. And I think, like, how did they get in that spot? And like, like, like that person just looks to me like they'd have so much more potential, you know, to do so many more, so much more than they're doing, you know, and contribute so much more than their contributing.

24:15 And, not not for any particular reason. It's just, you know, I, I see people all the time and I'm like, you know, how did they get into that state? And I mean, maybe I can maybe I could even look at myself. I wanted that same question. Right. You know, I don't know, but, you know, I've seen people all the time, like, clearly not living up to their potential of what they could be.

24:38 And, you know, I wonder, like, not really. How do they settle for that? But like, how does society settle for that? You know, like how how does society settle for so many people in that particular position? You know, it's it's it's a that's just a head scratcher. It's like a can't it's something that I've never been able to really comprehend, but I've never been able to really put my finger on it.

25:06 Like so. I'm not I can't be the only person that notices it, you know. Or maybe I am. I don't know who the hell knows. I'm, you know, trapped in my own subjective experience of life. Sure. You know, I can't just, like, jump into somebody else, I mean, obviously. Yeah. Brain and and know how they see. We all have been there.

25:24 I mean, I whenever I was much younger, I had a lot more contacts with the homeless than I do now. And, no, I wondered the same thing, if there was one guy who had some sort of. Maybe he was schizophrenic? Not sure, but, I would run into him often. We would walk in the same circles and Pineville, and he, he would hang out at the Barnes and Noble that I like to go to.

25:57 He would read books there, so would I. And, yeah, you know, rain into his family because they were looking for it because, like I said, we hung out in the same places and they were like, hey, how is he doing? After they knew, if they realized I knew who he was and they were telling me a story a little bit, they're saying he used to hold his own business.

26:24 He had $500,000 in the bank currently, and he. But he went out to the rails and stopped taking his medication, and they couldn't get him to take it again. So he's homeless, all right. You know. And so they're like, he's got money. He takes that money to live on. He's coherent enough to handle that, but he just assumes all the other trappings of society.

26:52 So if if you had like, this opportunity to, let's just say, like, you know, you know, here, Sean, here's 20 million, you know, you're not allowed to touch it, but it pays for all your bills, right? And it does for the rest of your life. All right. You know, so, like, you can't just take the 20 million and blow it on cocaine and strippers, right?

27:10 Right. It's they're like supplying all your, your your funding for everything you want to do in your life. Kind of like that book Great Expectations, where Pip had everything paid for as he was growing up. He became an adult, but didn't have any money. Really? Yeah, but he had it all paid for it. It turned out it was paid for by this man, that he had done this kindness to one pine.

27:30 Yeah. There you go. So that's you, right? Yes. And, you know, you have this opportunity clearly like. No, no doubt about it to you. You run across this person. Doesn't matter to some guy. And you just. You just see him here, like, you know, I want to make this person's life fully everyone. Yeah, yeah. And, homeless or desperate in some way or something.

27:52 Right? And you take all your faculties and you make it like your objective to to put your arms around this, this person and raise them up. Right, like you're, you're you you make your own self-defined goal in life is now to transform this person into the best person they constantly be. Right. That makes sense. Yes it would. It would require a certain amount of cash, a certain amount of money.

28:21 To do that. Right. You have to provide the person with the living. Like the subject. Yeah. You know, and a lot of other resources besides cash. Right? Right. So what I'm getting at is the primary resource that you'd end up giving this person is what, after you take care of the, you know, take care of the health and the and give them money.

28:38 Well, no. Not really. Not really. Once you've taken care of it, you provide them a place to live. All the basics, clothing, shelter, you know, all that stuff that's taken care of now for them. You've decided. You've taken care of that, right? All right. Okay. And so now you're trying to make this person the best person that that they could be.

28:55 So in the modern hierarchy of needs, they have all the basics. And they're they want for nothing. Yeah. Let's say, you know, because you want for nothing. So you have the means to have this one person that you just decided that you're going to make this transformation, right. And boom, what is what is really then becomes the, the, the true resource that you're giving that person.

29:15 I mean, free agency, the ability to do as they will. I mean, it was a free. But I'm getting that something I'm trying to trying to leave you. I don't know, you give from you. You give them your time. You give them your your attention and your your affection and your your care. Yeah, right. Like direct human.

29:35 You know I get that. And it doesn't matter how much money you throw that didn't solve the problem right. What's going to solve the problem is like the actual investment of of you. You're investing in them. You're telling them they have worth and you're trying to help them discover it for themselves. Right. I care about you. You know, it's genuine.

29:55 Not only provide all these things for you, but I'm here to try to help you, you know, be who you best you can be and truly dedicated to that. Right. Well, there are so many people that never have any of that. Like, never get any like those boys that were were at our place, you know, that that, mother messed up padlock on the door.

30:17 They were homeless. You can't kill you. That story. Yeah. You did. And a you know, the little boy was like, no, he's like eight years old, and no one ever read him a bedtime story, but he cries, you know, it's like he's sitting there crying because he he just saw for a second a different type of normal. Oh, you know, like, that's at least my interpretation of it.

30:38 Well, yeah, I'm sure that's it. You know, and it's like crying because this is better. And I wish I had this. Yeah. Just the that like kind of momentary realization that for other people this is just a default normal, you know. And so that really hit home for me because I was like, wait a minute, you know, how many people are in that situation where they've just never had at all no envelope of care and love, you know, wrapped around them, you know, really pretty much their whole life.

31:06 And so they develop all these defense mechanisms and put up all these walls and, you know, all these things, you know, and pretend there's something they're not. You're a gang waiting to, you know, waiting for them, you know, to be a brotherhood that they never had. You know, even if it's false and it is, you know, doesn't matter.

31:24 It's still it's like it's still pseudo. It's good filling that human need like a reasonable facsimile of it. Yeah. There you go. And so you know that that becomes the dystopia, you know. And so at the end of the day, it's it becomes just nothing more than a cultural thing, which because all the ingredients are there, right? All the ingredients are there for success are the, the amount of the, the money, the energy, the resources.

31:53 The money is abstraction. But like, you know, the natural resources, the energy. The infrastructure. Right, right. For people to have great lives and to live well is all there. And yeah, we may have to, we are definitely going to have to have Amazon levels of logistics to distribute. Yeah, we are definitely going to have to make some societal changes to even it out.

32:20 But I mean, and I don't know, I keep coming back to the hoarding of said resources as being a problem. Yeah. So I see it as like all there. It's like every everything is in place. It's like you got the eggs, the milk, the appetite and societal constructs to do it aren't is it? Is it just the will to do it?

32:44 Is it just is it just a matter of like literally flipping a switch, like turning, turning that, activating that for humans, like in the culture? Is that all that? It is really part of it. But I like I said, we'd also have to you say infrastructure. Hell, we need logistics to two distributed. We'd need, you know, so we need a appetite on every level to do it.

33:12 So you're telling me that we couldn't transform 1% of our surplus consumer spending and use that to make sure no one I think we could ever goes without medicine or food? I know, I'm not saying you couldn't. I'm saying you'd have to change a lot of things. I'm not saying you could not change those things. I'm just saying you'd have to be.

33:34 You know, we talk about a full stack developer. You'd have to have full stack changes. Morning. Hey, brother. You'd have to have changes from the bottom to the top. You'd have to have support for it on every level because it just sustained it. It would require that. Right. I wonder where is it just is it just a matter of like, simple opting out of the nonsense, you know, and you you opt out of the nonsense and now everything else can take place.

34:05 Like, is it really simple as that? Well, maybe. But why wouldn't you say opt out of the nonsense? I think of these utopias that a lot of people tried to build in the 60s. Some of them are succeeded to varying degrees. Some of them failed outright. Some of them are are still kind of clinging on now. And it's like.

34:30 And, you know, for certain values, some some of them did achieve their goals. But it's like I feel like that was kind of the idea. They wanted to opt out and they wanted to build something different. And I think now if you did it, it would probably have a slightly different outcome than then, because it was so much more difficult than to build something from nothing.

34:52 Yeah. So if you come by my place tonight, nothing I'm asking you to inviting you or asking you to. But if you were to, you would see every Thursday you see literally a food line at the church right down the street. Yeah. And there's no less than 100 cars queued up. Jesus. And they're giving, like, boxes of food.

35:10 Yeah. You know, it's everybody that comes to that light. See, I don't know for sure, but it looks like one of those no questions asked that thing, right? Right. You need food. Show up. Yeah. So you're looking at the, you know, wealthiest nation in all of known history. Yeah. Right. And.

35:33 You know, more more productivity than it's ever seen in ever. Right. Through mechanization and other, you know, means that we've talked about at length and people in the food line. Right. Like you know and then we talk this shit about like, you know, Communist China and the bread lines in Russia, you know, or whatever. Yeah, we're fucking breadline right here.

35:58 You're right and right down the road from my house. And maybe that's part of the problem. It's see it off my back towards maybe that's one of the first steps we was realizing that we have some lines we will unveil. We pulled back the layer of propaganda were fed. So we're not. So we're not paying attention to ourselves.

36:16 And we pay attention to ourselves. We say, what are the problems that are right here? We don't ignore it. We don't move them around through gentrification. We try to fix them and acknowledge them. Yeah. So right now we're walking through a neighborhood full of these, like condominium style townhomes, right? Which I'm sure you know, you roll back in 15 years, it was a lot poorer than it is right now.

36:43 Yeah. So this area is about clearly being gentrified. And every one of these little balconies could be having like, you know, a hanging garden off of them. Yeah, right. And let's say that these people are too good to eat, own food that they grow.

36:59 You know what I'm saying? It could be there, you know, and every rooftop can be filled with solar panels. Right. And and we could coat every rooftop. And they just made this coating that is the whitest white that actually reflects it back. Exactly. Changes. Albino reflects the light back, changes the amount of heat that something is going to absorb.

37:23 Sure. And then, you know, all the all this potential that's right there, like right there, you know, so easily and so obvious. Yeah. That's that's never actualized. It's not just true for our infrastructure. It's true for us for for for our for our lives, for humanity. You know, it's like, shouldn't the goal function of society, you know, or primary function at least be to unlock the potentiality of people, of human beings?

37:52 Because, you know, what else are we in the fucking game for? A lot of people are in the game for a lot of other reasons, and usually it's not for other peoples. Okay, so let's say that somebody for, for some reason, is convinced that they're, you know, the goal function for them is to accumulate as much resource as possible because, they, they feel like they have some bigger purpose with that money or something.

38:15 Whatever, whatever. Whatever reason. Right. You know, could they not be convinced that they're just doing the same thing? Well, I feel like I agree we need to change the overall goal function, the default goal function, the I think we need to open people's minds and hearts. I think we need to take a take a moment and like you said, capture the efficiencies that are available.

38:38 You know, hey, you know, even if every person had a Home Depot sized bucket, they were growing some grains in, that'd be a hell of a lot better than what we're doing at the moment. Well, if you save one trip to the grocery store, the carbon footprint of all the, you know, all that is incredible. So, I mean, you've already just the, the, the the the little budget, the energy budget has been transformed just by that one Home Depot buggy, right?

39:02 Yeah. And right. And that's what I'm saying. You know, the Home Depot bucket said the answer I was saying in general. Right, right. But what and I'm not saying that the answer either, but what I'm trying to say is, yeah, we've got this thing we want to do. We want to change the goal function of humanity in general.

39:21 So and we want to reorient ourselves on not these divisions that we have, but the commonalities we want to reorient ourselves on, not the not the problems that someone has, but the potential they have. We want to we. And so how do we take baby steps in that direction? What do we do to change people? I think you're better off changing the people who don't have a shit ton of power.

39:53 And then maybe the people with the power will change. But that's my personal opinion because I do not have faith in the people of God. Foward. Yeah, yeah. Can you imagine like somebody that's like skank wealthy, right. Like the gated community. Plus, you know. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Whatever the fuck. Yeah, yeah. All the trappings of being insanely rich.

40:14 Sure. Imagine someone in that setting, right? And, jet setting with lots of other people. A similar status, you know? Yeah. And, having their whatever this suck they had like, to have, you know. Sure. They're having their martini on the, on the jet, you know, whatever way to Paris, I don't know. Sure. Right, right. To go see some famous opera.

40:40 Yeah.

40:43 Not that I think that's what people are rich people do, but let's just say. Yeah, right. We're just pulling a combination of things out of our assets that we cannot do. Yeah, and on their way, they. They land the jet and they have to drive. They have to get a limo or whatever from the airport to the opera house.

41:03 Yeah. And in, in so doing, they drive through this neighborhood or this small town, let's say. And in the small town, the people are like outside, mostly right there, free and tennis. And they're playing sports and their kids are flying kites, and people are like, out in socializing with each other in the community. And people in this community are, like, very healthy looking.

41:29 Right. Like, if you're not just like sat and lazy, everyone, everyone is mostly like fit. Sure. And have like nice teeth because they have good health care and they think of themselves well, and none of them eat the traditional diet. They all eat like healthy. And they community is just this unique community, niche community somewhere where the whole community has rallied together around taking care of each other and being well being set and well, well, right.

41:59 And I mean, I don't know if this was to say or which is imagine and then the super wealthy person drives through. Right? And it's like, wait a minute. And like gets out and decides to have a cup of coffee at a cafe that have there. And while the person, the super rich person is in the cafe, every single person there is like super nice and flight and generous and courteous.

42:23 Yeah, and there's just people loving each other all around them. Okay. That's like getting them fantasy full. But just imagine. Yeah. You know, and it's not like everyone's on some kind of drug, you know, it's like I. Not some kind of sci fi story. It's like, this is genuine. This is from the wellspring of right, you know, understanding and care.

42:43 Exactly. And this wealthy, this incredibly wealthy person that just got off the jet center, you know, seeing, watching the news on the plane or whatever. Who knows? Right. Sure. Now, see something that doesn't matter how much money you have, you can't buy. You cannot buy that, right? Right. Right. You can't buy a society full of people that genuinely care about each other.

43:10 Right. And you can't just get can't just can't go. Take that. You can't. You can't just, like, say, here's some cash. Not something. I'm not part of this, right? You can't lift and shift it. You can't, you know, you can't put it in your backyard. It's not something you can own. And so they say, oh, well, I have this investment portfolio.

43:28 I can buy half this town. You could. And then, then when you, they look into it and no property is for sale. Right. It doesn't matter. It's no properties for sale. You can't buy it. You can't buy it. If something for sale you can't buy it. Sure. Right. And then I want to take as much money as it takes to be part of this community.

43:48 I want I want this, I want to be only. And nobody accepts that person as part of that community because they haven't put in the investment into the other people's ask the whole lives. Oh, so you're saying in a way this is a duality. This community is insular and that they do not accept outside, but you can come through and visit.

44:09 Yeah. But like, you can't just insert yourself just because you're rich. Because that's not what they value there. Yeah. They value the social currency of togetherness. So maybe you can join other ways, but you can't join with money. You have to join by coming and participating. Yeah. Right. Like being part of that mastermind society they have going on there where they're taking care of each other on a daily basis.

44:32 Yeah. Okay. Emotionally. Physically. Right. Yeah. You got to show up and you got to give. And you got to care. Right. You can't just buy an emotion. You know? Money can't buy me love. Right. You can't just buy positive emotion, right? You can't just buy acceptance. You can't buy belonging. You can buy fake versions of it. Right. Like you can buy a prostitute.

44:57 Yep. But that's not. That's not. You're not making love. You're not in sex. Yeah. Same. Same idea, but with society at large. Let's see what I'm saying. Right. Like you could buy something. I love this idea. I do, but I think at least a society that I feel like I live in is counter so much to that. And I guess what I'm asking is, what are the steps we can take to move closer to that utopian vision?

45:29 What can we do today or tomorrow or next year that does plant that cedar does help or does kind of move things in that direction? It's kind of like whenever you have a massive engineering project to move a river, you can eventually do it, but it's a series of small, calculated steps. And I think unfortunately, we would have to have a series of small, calculated steps to figure this out.

46:00 Yeah, literally, you have to change your brain because our brains are conditioned from they were born, you know, in this, in this society, in this culture to to be a materialistic brain. Yeah. Think in terms of material, you know, materialism and consumerism across the board. Right. And so really the key just start this whole thing off is to like, change priorities, right?

46:21 Instead of the priority being accumulating wealth and all this kind of thing. So what do you do today? Do you evangelize? Yes. Yes, exactly. That's the first step is you have to transform yourself first. You have to first, you know, decide for yourself that you're going to be in a different mice. You're going to change your brain and even say like this.

46:43 So you recruit people who want to do said thing to yeah, yeah, I think like to pull yourself up by the bootstraps here is very possible because, you know, there's there's lots of model, there's lots of examples. You know, of what I'm talking about. And there's there's lots of like ways to, approach this. So first of all, I think first and foremost is like minimalism, right?

47:09 Like, just kind of find a way to shirk the greed, you know, somehow get that on your DNA. You know, I could do. I need to be. I could do it. We need to be dualist here. We need to use the greed. The City of Angels agreed. We do. Because. All right. Sure. We may ask you the those things.

47:32 We may say we will not participate this way. We will not do these things. We will not be our goals. But we still have to accumulate resources in service of this change. So for for me, like when I told you a while back, I did that like efficiency study of my own life, like really was honest about how I spend my time and resources and what I'm doing with my time budget and with my energy budget and my financial budget.

47:58 Right. Yeah. And came to the conclusion that, oh my gosh, I'm was like everybody else, you know, spending over one of my time in entertainment of some sort. But in some form right now, you know. Yeah. Right. Morning. So it was the first step is like, you know, first, first step is awareness. You know, the first step of the addict is to recognize that problem.

48:23 And so for me it was like damn that was the wrong approach for her this morning. What say I. Yeah. Whatever. Woo. So in the community I'm talking about that wouldn't happen right. Because you know that my name or. Yeah. Right. Like. Hi, Jolene. Yeah. How's. How's Steve? Yeah, yeah. Oh, Steve. Hey. Hey, Steve. Steve's a good dude.

48:48 He's good. Yeah. Steve. Steve deserves a little bit of love today. Right. Right. So the first thing for me is like, Holy shit, I'm spending on, like everybody else. You know, I'm spending a majority of my time, effort and energy and resources in what it's like perpetual entertainment mode, if you will. Right. Dogged pursuit of simulation. Yeah, right.

49:09 And work is just a stepping stone towards more consuming, more entertainment. Right? Yeah. So it's like I do my job so that I can just continue to consume. Right. Right. And so I'm like, bingo. Stop. Like, you know, fucked up my brain temporarily, but I'm like, hell no. Like, I'm going to be in the in the majority at a minimum in the production mode.

49:35 Right. In the majority I'm going to produce. Gotcha. And in the minority, I'm going to consume at least to start, because you have to consume. You have to take things. Yeah. You have to take things from outside of yourself to maintain yourself to, to be different, to to grow, to learn. So, so like, you know, there's a there's a fucking full, large pizza ahead of me, you know, and I can ask myself the question.

50:02 Am I going to if, if tomorrow, if I eat the whole fucking pizza. Right. Is it going to matter tomorrow? Like, am I going to wake up tomorrow and be like, oh, I'm really happy. Ate that pizza? Probably not. Right. Or can I just wake up tomorrow, not have eaten the pizza and not even care about it? Probably like it becomes a non-sequitur.

50:20 Like a non point at that point. Right. And you know you can turn that to can I binge the show for five hours that everyone's talking about or can I wake up tomorrow not having been set up. Right. Another chapter in my book. Yeah. And then over time, what am I what's going to bring me more, self-actualization?

50:41 What's going to bring me more joy in the long run? It's the. Is writing that book? Yeah. Is being productive, creating those things that I've always wanted to create? Because how we spend our hours, how we spend our days, is how we spend our lives. Right. So for me, I, I, I hope that was the first step of many in, you know, unlocking myself.

51:03 I hopefully, you know, it seems like so far, so good. Sure. You know, but, you know, I guess time will tell, but it seems like. Yes. Well, it's one of those things you keep coming back to. You have to keep coming back to checking in with yourself. Retooling. Changing. Right. Yeah. And, I mean, hopefully I'm not just an eccentric, you know, when I.

51:20 When I get on the other side of this, but, you know, maybe if I am, that's okay, too, because, you know, it's like it's the people that think differently that a lot of times the Trail Blazers, it takes it takes eccentricity controlled exit to propel things forward because you have to realize what you've been doing or what society's been doing, whatever is not working.

51:50 See if you come up with something different. Right. So tonight I'm talking about Nova Scotia. I'm talking about, it's a five part series and it's called The Advocate. Right. And, the first one was an introduction. It was that whole thing about, you know, the what are the moral failings of our modern time. Okay. And then the next four part, that was part one.

52:16 It's the next four parts are advocacy. And tonight we're talking about advocacy for the environment. Like we all know that the environment. We're headed for a climate disaster. Like we all know that it's fact at this point, right? Yeah. It's not just like some kooky scientists saying we might be in trouble. Yeah. If you're thinking human being who embraces, you know, scientific and logical thought, you understand the environment is in trouble.

52:43 Right. And you could just look around us right now where we are right now. And what do we see? An environment in trouble. Yeah, right. We see, like, waste junk and debris, energy waste or fucking widely. The lights on right now. Fucking trash. Trash. Sprint out. Right. Fast food junk. Yeah. Right. So, hell, one thing I did for my body in the environment is not being fucking fast food.

53:10 Period. Full, full stop. Yeah. Right. Because every time you go there, you you you you, taking in what? How many calories on average? Right. Yeah. More than half your daily need, at least. And that's if you're conservative about it, right? That's if you didn't see it for size. Right. And then, let's cut down this week and then, plus all the waste, all the fucking paper and, you know, wrapping and all the bullshit that people like peeling paint the street.

53:44 But right now, it's fine here. Yeah. And then you see, look around. Right. Well, he's fucking lights on like it's bright out. Yeah. Right. And he's this simple, you know, some simple addition, some nuts and complicated electronics would fix the lights on all of that. Yeah, that's a little bit of technology application, right? Yeah. But so, you know, for me as an individual, what can I do?

54:10 Like right out of the gate, boy, I can think of 106. Yeah. Right. And so the idea of this, like, on the next four weeks, we're talking about actual advocacy for these different things. So, like, how can I not only make changes in my own life right away, but how can I advocate in my community right away? Right.

54:30 And how can I have a Kate on the larger scale, too? Right away? Sure. Like today, you know. So that's what a nice discussion is about, is about how can like right now I sort of make a difference for myself. Something community. Actionable, right? Immediately actionable. Yeah. And so I have like 50 things already for tonight on, you know, how I can immediately make changes to advocate for the environment?

54:57 Well, something is stupid. Simple as making sure my tire pressure is good in my car. I mean, I think that was mocked a little bit when Obama said that. Probably, you know, but, like, what is my it's my air pressure right in my tires. And make the huge difference to feel it on me. Can I drive both.

55:22 Can I arrange my schedule so that I make 2 or 3 less trips per day? Right. You know, can I. Can I plan things better to where? You know, if I need to go somewhere? It's. I plan that in somewhere else. I need to go in a route like so. How can I adjust all that stuff, you know?

55:38 Yeah. My mom used to do all of that. I. I remember the kid, you know, she would she would try to solve the travel and settlement problem every day. Yeah. It's it's a it's could be a noble pursuit. Right. And then, you know, can I cut out some of those some of those unnecessary things I'm not talking about live in a box.

55:56 Talking about cutting out beyond necessary things. Yeah. Right. Like, I just as well go. I'll sign in the backyard and throw throw a ball with my son. Then I would go out somewhere. Go. Go out to dinner. There we go. I really fucking need a hand and not a hand sandwich. Try to get away from that kind of stuff.

56:14 I'd rather eat a peanut butter jelly sandwich. Right. I'm going through a ball with my son that I would go out to dinner. See what I'm saying? Yeah. So? So there's that plus, like, you know, endless array of, like, personal family, local community, community at large, country and then world, you know, kind of thinking, lay it out. Right.

56:40 And of course, that's why technology is always the biggest decision for me, because I feel like technology is like the outer perimeter of all those things. Right, right. Because technology changes everything. It's the permeable skin of each one of those layers. It's it's the it's the interface layer for all of them now. It used to be culture had that had that primary seat.

57:02 And that's technology and technology's taken over in technology. Our culture rides on technology now.

57:11 Wow.