0:00 Bad engineering. Yeah. So my very first, like I have been fond of black and white cast because I've had three of them and in my lifetime. And the first one was named Herman. And I don't know how I came up with that name, but I think it was related somehow to like, the Herbie car, like the oh, okay.

0:19 You know, like the cartoon with the runner. It was with the little, little Volkswagen Beetle. Yeah. Named Herbie or whatever. Yep. I think they did, like, over the years, multiple things with Herbie the car. All right, all right. There was a cartoon, I think, series where they actually had it, like, animated. Herbie multiplied like herpes.

0:41 Yeah, that that's terrible. Yeah. And then my other one was named Nagi, and now I have a black one named named obsidian. We call him city. And for sure, you know that cat. Yeah. That cats got a great. Every one of my black and white cats have had a great personality. Cool. So we were talking about you had one that looked like Hitler.

1:00 Yeah. It was. He was a killer, you know, and, I was very little. I was like three. And he had the stash of the hair. He had the stash. I got the hair. Wish he had the hair. That would have been cool. Have you have you seen on the website cats that look like Hitler, like ones that have the hair and the stats?

1:22 Yeah, they're just hilarious. They're just plain funny. You just want to put, like, a little bow tie on them or something. But yeah. This one was named Dean, and he was a, he was the most patient cat ever. Because your three year old poke him in the eye. Oh, geez. Your dad was named Dean. Yep. And how did you come up with that name?

1:48 I didn't. Oh, great grandmother named him. Oh. Was there any kind of significance to that? I'm not sure. But the cat was 19 when he died. Wow. Yep. I had one cat that was long left as well, but somewhere around there. Yeah. That's awesome. And I didn't name that one because it had dumb ass name. It was named P.C., which did for Pussycat, which is really, really dumb name.

2:16 You know, sucker got hit by a car. Really, and, like, managed, like recovered. Oh, wow. My grandparents had a straight, well, a cat they picked up on the side of the road that had been hit by a car that they called miracle. Okay. All right. This cat recovered. Right. But every time it wanted to per, it would hiss.

2:38 So it had some kind of wires. Get his wires crossed. Dude, I had no shit. Like, this is like a cartoon or like a sitcom episode, but this shit really happened to me. I had, was driving this car called a GMC. Jimmy like SUV, right? Yeah. Like literally, it's called Jimmy, and I don't know why. Right.

2:58 Sure. Jimmy. It was red, the Burgundy kind of red. And it was like, you know, reasonably okay, car, but it was like they've passed the guard post. That was the cat that was limping the other day. And it's not limping now. Good. Like we're into like talking about animal recovery and how how weird that we like suddenly got into that.

3:20 But anyway, so this GMC Jimmy, you know at the time it was like really cool to put a bass kicker in your car. Yeah. One of the you know and it wasn't made for it. So it just rattle and sucked. Right. But it was still like the cool thing to have the bass tubes. Or was it one of the, you know, it was like a tube.

3:37 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I had that in the back and I was wiring that shit up. And then I had to replace the stereo because I wanted you out of it. No, it just wasn't cool to put the tape deck in, to put the tape that connected to the CD player to play your CDs through. And so I was swapping it out, like with a Kenwood or whatever, whatever the.

3:57 Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember the name of the brand, but like it was a pretty decent one at the time, you know, that would handle bumps whenever you hit them. So they, you know, the CD would keep playing it with buffer enough. Yeah. So, you know, I would actually have a CD player in the car which was like, not like a CD player on a stand with a tape coming up.

4:16 Yeah, a good enough one. But like you said. So when the bass tube kicks off, it doesn't skip your CD. Yeah. Because that could be like an infinite loop, right? Right. So I so anyway, I pulled the wiring out of the dash, and it was like, crazy, like, there's so much wiring and, like, so bad. Like, I'm sure today it's so much better.

4:37 Like, it's so much less complicated. Probably. It would have to be or more, you know, I don't know, I don't know, but I had all these wires and, you know, I had taken so long and way too long, like, you know, it should have definitely just paid someone to do it, you know, properly. Right, right. So I get the thing wired up and this sounds impossible, but literally I cross wired shit in my car.

4:58 So, like, you turn on the wipers and, like, you know, the interior light would. Come on. That's awesome. It was literally like a sitcom. Like, it was totally, totally messed up. It was totally messed up, you know? So, like, I had to undo it and fix it all, and, and I think I even went and and got, like, some kind of wiring diagram, like a Chilton manual or something.

5:17 Yeah. So, like, finally figured out, but it was so funny, dude. Like, so many things were cross wired. It was it was hilarious. It was literally like a TV show that was funny. And, so anyway, I finally got it all, all working properly. And, you know, that stereo system was in there for the life of I had had the vehicle and, it worked the whole time, but the bass sucked, right?

5:40 It was like that crappy rattling bass. Yep. So I had to turn it down enough to where it wouldn't rattle because that was just. Yeah, yeah. You have you seen those videos where, like, they crank the bass and, like, the woman's hair like flies all crazy. And. Have you seen that? Yep. So I just nuts. I used to make speaker boxes from this, this book that I had bought at RadioShack.

6:07 And also I was really into dynamite and, you know, making sure that there is soundproofing and all that that's more complicated than people think it is. And you got to calculate the volume the speaker is going to push. We once we were messing around and trying to make something for like one of those bass contests.

6:30 Right. And we put it in the back of a buddies pickup truck. And it worked fine with the bass contest with the. That's awesome cab off. Right. And so my back of the envelope Radio Shack calculations that I probably did wrong said, okay, we have enough. We have enough shack.

6:56 Oh, because I was using the book I got from Radio Shack to build the speaker boxes, and I had all these formulas I was going through. And nostalgia. Right. I loved RadioShack, it was awesome. Way overpriced it was. But you could get they had a clearance section. It was just badass. And my dad, he traveled a lot. And so he would hit all the radio shacks and we'd have a list of stuff we wanted, and he'd try to find it on.

7:22 Dude, that's like, you know, it, nerd. Like, in training, you know, as a kid, pretty much. That's like, totally makes sense how that kind of foundation would help you settle into a career that you have today, right? Pretty much. Because, I mean, it's like an entree into true nerd dumb. Yeah, man. Totally. So, you know, basically.

7:46 We put the cab on, screwed it down tight, and he cranked it up. We pulled all the windows out. Wow. Really? Yeah. Dude, that must have been huge. That must have been huge. Bass. It was tempered glass is like, no, no joke. I mean, you must have hit the right frequency or something. It must've hit the resident frequency and just kill them.

8:08 Or like some of the air pressure. I think it was the air pressure. I think that's where the calculation still. That's a lot of force, man. That was a lot. We had, we had a couple of bass tubes in there, and then we had a couple of years are okay to this day. I have, I have tinnitus, and we know now where it came from.

8:28 Right. And so, then we had a bunch of, we were trying to get sponsored by a, the that magazine, you know, that magazine. Do you ever get Crutchfield? No, I've never even heard of it. I don't even know what you're talking about. Okay, well, it was a it was like a catalog of radio stuff, okay? And, speakers and all kinds of things.

8:57 Oh, you're way more into this than I thought. Yeah. And so we were trying to get closer by a couple of the brands, and, we had.

9:09 And we had made, like, we had one of the local speaker shops make like, custom, like silver.

9:19 Forget what it's called, the there's a cap you can get that goes on top of the tone and there's a name for it. Okay, okay. And people will make them custom like after they're like car club or whatever. Oh, right. Okay. So you can, like, put your logo on it. Yeah. So we put a logo on it and everything and wow, that's cool.

9:37 And but we had like 620 inch woofers in there and a couple of bass tubes. And I guess it was too much for this tiny little pickup truck. It was a little Toyota. Wow. That's crazy. And we even had to use a marine battery for deep cycling so that we could get enough power for the fucker. Jesus.

9:56 Wow. You guys were really into that? That's that's crazy. I'm glad I brought the topic because, that's that's awesome that you were so into that shit, man. That's so cool. One, man. Dude, my uncle was he. He worked in, he was in the military Air Force in Vietnam, and his job was to go out when they had would fly the reconnaissance planes, get us, take the camera off the front, and you had to, like, dismount it.

10:21 Oh, wow. And rush it inside and develop the film as soon as possible because of the Intel. You know, it wasn't like digital. Okay. Yeah. It was. It was analog. So it was like they were doing it as fast as they possibly could. Wow. So, like, the spy plane would fly around. Yeah. Collect data of enemy positions and locations.

10:38 It would land and they'd have to take the thing off and go and develop the film as fast as possible and get the Intel out, you know, as soon as possible. That's really cool. You know. And so he was heavily into electronics and all these kind of things in the military. And obviously if you're doing that, you know, you're you're in like a tech position in the military.

10:56 So you get all the training associated with that. Right. Well he got heavy into acoustics. Oh man. And he was building he was building his own speaker boxes out of like, recycled pallets they get for free. Oh, right. I mean brilliant. He'd sit there with a handsaw precision like to, you know, cut taking his time and like piecing them together over, you know and he he'd actually have like some of the math formulas.

11:20 So these were bespoke and handcrafted and like I said crate math behind it. They started making them out of like, things that he can just material that he can get his hands on. Like, he ended up making stuff. Yeah. He ended up laminating a bunch of, like, really thin pizza boxes together with, like, polyurethane them to create his own composite like material that he could shape a certain way.

11:43 That is neat. Yeah. And he's getting really into it. And, anyway, he had me come into his into his, into his room, read this huge wall, basically of speakers. Okay. And, he had a stereo system that was all disassembled and things were like, were wired together with, like, alligator clips. Oh, shit. Like. Yeah. And they clip it to the battery to turn the whole thing on.

12:04 Yeah, right. Reminded me of it when you're talking about the marine battery and, dude, he had played this orchestra music where for the first time in my life, I could hear every instrument over a sound system. Wow. Like, you know, now I have a pretty decent pair of headphones. Yeah, as an adult. But as a kid, yeah, but still didn't even come close to capturing the range.

12:26 That's amazing. Like, he had so many speakers. Yeah, he was just capable of producing almost the full, you know, range soundscape that he crafted. Yeah, dude. And, you know, he had it to where sitting on his bed in a particular spot was this was the was the resonant, you know, like sweet spot. Yeah. Dude. All he edited, all calculated.

12:46 Yeah. And, I'll tell you what. Like, if you close your eyes, you could somewhat be convinced that, like, it was live, it was like, you've got to listen to it. It was that good. It was that good. That is really cool. I shared that with you. Yeah, man. And, so he. I don't know if he still does it to this day, but he for years and years was just tinkering with, you know, these things.

13:06 Yeah. I mean, that's that's like so cool, man. Very true. Audio file there. I feel like I hear the sound of, like, big, great vehicles. Let's go back to the other way. You can just hear him idling. Yeah, yeah. It's like I don't even want to ruin. Ruin our audio today. It's like thunder in the distance. Yeah. So back to pets, right?

13:24 Like. Yeah. Like, So I had Herman. I had no one called Nagy. Oh, yeah. A name behind Nagy. I didn't name it, I, I, I acquired that cat from somebody else that that couldn't take care of it anymore. Gotcha. You know, but. So it was old enough to where it had a name like that was established. They couldn't just change.

13:44 Right. And then one of my favorite cats is a gray and white called maestro. Oh, cool. And I named that one because. Because, when he was a really tiny, tiny, tiny kitten, we got him when he was just a kid and the mother had gotten killed or abandoned, whatever. So we got him as, like, that point to where, you can they can eat.

14:04 Yeah. And, the reason I named him maestro was because I used to play with him with a little toy, a little string. I don't know, it was like this, like little bird on a string type thing. And he was so young, he'd stand up, like, on his hind legs, and he was, like, bad at it, but it was more like he was conducting an orchestra when he was, like, swiping at the thing.

14:26 Yeah. So I called him maestro because it looked like, you know, he was a maestro, right? He was like, conducting the orchestra. That's so funny. And then he was an indoor outdoor cat, and he got really, he was fixed and all that kind of stuff, but, you know, all the shots and all that stuff. But he was like, became this, like, exterminator of woodland creatures, like no bird or squirrel, you know, was safe.

14:52 Killer extraordinaire. Yeah. He was just and actually and actually, you know, since we had a cat door. Yeah. And he was an indoor outdoor cat. From time to time, he would bring his brain, bring a bring in a kill. Right. Yeah. Well, this cat wasn't just like, evil. It's really like, kill something. He'd kill it and eat it.

15:12 We had a d worm in several times. Yeah, but anyway, he would kill something and then devour it. Yeah. And so, one night, my girlfriend at the time was over, and we were like, we were sleeping. And we both wake up and like, what? Is that sound? Right? And this is really strange. Like, how do you describe it?

15:35 Like it was like someone scratching on drywall or some kind of sound, right? Like this really bad. Scraping sound. Right? Grading. Scraping sound. And, so we turn to the lights and there's the ass half of a squirrel, and he's sitting. He'd ate the whole thing up to that point. He ate, and he eating the whole thing up to that point and was like, working on the spine and the pelvis and the back legs.

16:04 Wow. And the sound was his back teeth grating on the bone. Oh, it's bone on bone on bone. Damn. And you know. From what? From what I understand, that's like, they can totally process that. Like, it's not going to. It's not going to hurt their insides. I mean, they eat things in. That's their natural, right? It's what they do.

16:24 But if you cook the bone, they become brittle. And they, like, can create like, shards. You can hurt their intestines. Yeah, but the raw bone, the marrow, yeah, they can just grind it and and just eat it and then body will process it. That's cool. And he was a super healthy cat like he was he was was beautiful because he's out there getting everything and he eats.

16:42 Yeah he's getting the cat food and yeah plus all that activity. So he's like oh he's like exercising man. He was he was like the most active cat I've ever had. It was very, very active. Sounds like a beast. Yeah. And, you know, he had the life of Riley or, like, all right, could do whatever he wanted.

17:00 He had full cat, cat, dumb experience. And, I had two dogs. Two, there were two German shepherds when I was really young, and they were named Heidi and ZIP. I didn't I didn't name them, but, they were, a mother son pair of dogs. Okay. No, no, no. I'm sorry. Mother daughter pair dogs. And, they were like, super sweet.

17:26 I guess there's nothing that way. We've never been down here before, so that's kind of cool. Apartments? Some pretty big houses. Yeah. And so, you know, Heidi and Ziff were actually super cool, really gentle German shepherds. And my dad was like a dick. He he was like. He was like, he he'd handle them real rough, right?

17:50 And if they're like, shit on the floor or something, he'd. He'd beat him. Oh. And, but other than that, like, to me, they were gentle giant dogs. Like, they were super cool. And to this day, I've always had an affinity to German Shepherds because of how cool those dogs were. Have you heard about the monks of New Skete?

18:08 That that's what they do for money. They train German Shepherds and they sell books on training dogs. No. This is a group of monks. Yeah, in New York, in in upper New York state, the monks of New Skete. Alrighty then. No, I have not heard of them. How how would I have, I don't know. How did you hear about looking at dog books?

18:32 Okay. They train German Shepherds and they sell German shepherds. Okay? And they sell books on training dogs. Really cool. Just like they do with inmates now.

18:44 I've always seen monks that way like that. They're inmates. Yeah, just like in a temple instead of in the jail. Like you have to wear the robe. They have to wear a certain outfit. At least initially. There was a degree of choice you chose to enter, at least at first. But they look like prisoners to me. Yeah. Shaved heads.

19:05 Oh, yeah. We're in the same robe. I mean, there's that air conformity. There's this absolute routine. Other people are making decisions for you. You become. You have to be seen what I'm saying? Yeah. You have to become institutionalized, right? Monks as monks as inmates. Yeah. But, speaking about the dog thing, I was gonna say, my first two dogs were that I named were Rambo and Suzy.

19:34 Awesome. Suzy was. Rambo was. He was a beagle. And God, what was it? A big ol and a Rottweiler, I think. What? Yeah. What the hell was that? Which one was the father? Has to be right. The dominant. The dominant look was Rottweiler. But he had he had these little brown, tiny eyebrows, like, kind of like, reminiscent of a beagle.

20:01 He had big, short legs. No. And. But he was all black. So was Rambo. Like this the joke name? No, I mean, I was I was completely not intimidating. It would have been hilarious if that's where I was going. But I was a little kid. I was like seven. So I think I just enjoyed the Rambo movies. Oh yeah.

20:22 Yeah. Perfect. So you had an opportunity to name an animal and say, well, yeah, yeah. So it wouldn't matter what that animal was. It would have been named. Yeah, it would have been Rambo. Yeah. Gotcha. And Susie Q was because, my great grandmother said she wanted to name her next dog, Susie Q, and I was like, well, I called her up and was like, great grandma.

20:43 If, Well, I called her granny. I was like, granny, you can't find name this dog Susie Q because I can't think of another name. And so perfect. Perfect. Yeah, I love that. I think that's so elegant. When families have, like, namesakes for other people and their families. Yeah, I've always loved that. You know, like, for example, we have that with Eric.

21:07 We named him Adam as his middle name. Okay. I don't know if I told you before. Not. But my uncle had a child that was born and died. Certainly thereafter, like, the child died, like, you know, it might have been ours. Okay. No. And it was kind of a big tragedy, you know, it was like it would have been his only son.

21:26 He never had any kids, so it would have been like his. Yeah, it would have been like his only son. And, Yeah, it was like. So it was a big deal. And they had named the kid The Sun Adam. And so as the namesake we named gave that middle name to Eric. That's awesome. Yeah. So he's Eric.

21:40 Adam. That's really cool. Yeah, man. So I love that. Like the namesake, you know, very much inside families. I think that's just so, so nice. Especially when there's a story. Yeah, right. Like, you know, somebody falls in battle or something, and then you give that name to the right to carry it on, and they come out to be and they, they end up being a pacifist.

22:03 It was just hilarious. Boy, that's been destroyed. Yeah, man. Remember we were talking about that like, if you take a train ride, you see like the backside of people's houses and businesses and stuff through for miles and miles and it's like complete like, looks like third world country. Yeah. Sometimes when you see the back side of things, they just totally messed up.

22:23 I mean, that'd be so cool. Like those abandoned signs.

22:28 Like, if you had a really huge space, like a warehouse or something, start collecting things like this. Objects. Yeah, man. Clean them up. That would be neat. Think. Think of all the people not getting their Pilates and yoga now that are all fat and out of shape, because this place went out of business. But what I always wanted as a kid, this was before hackerspaces came about and everything, but in my early 20s, late teens.

22:55 Me and my fellow participator of illicit activities had decided that we'd like to take our money and get a warehouse, and we would like to a warehouse. Well, what we wanted to do at the warehouse was set it up to have all these stations where we could do stuff we like doing or explore stuff. Gotcha, gotcha. Like one of the guys was into,

23:26 Concrete casting. One of the other guys was into, he had a tiny little, like, micro forge in a fire brick. Oh, damn.

23:40 Wow. So we got loaded? Yeah. We just found, like, this huge, empty bottle of spirits. Yeah, it's, like tucked away. There was someone probably setting your body and got really drunk. I mean, it doesn't look like it'd be a bad place to get really loaded up either. Probably pretty quiet. And now my fingerprints are on that crime scene a bottle.

24:00 Yeah. So this warehouse, you had a fantasy about it, or did you actually work towards getting it done? Well, we worked towards getting it done. We almost had the had it secured. And then the guy who was selling it to his died. He was selling it to us himself. And his family didn't want to sell it to us.

24:16 They wanted to keep it. But, the idea was we were each going to do, like our own things in there. I was going to do so basically like instead saying, oh, the makerspace. More like, yeah, makerspace, but without having known the name or the idea. Yeah. Cool, cool. And, yeah, I was going to do the computer stuff there.

24:37 I think there's one other guy who's going to help me with that. And then, but we didn't have even the idea of opening it up to people. We were just going to use it for our own stuff. And I'm sure at some point we would have thought maybe to open it up. But yeah, that was the idea. We all had different things we were going to do.

24:56 This one guy, Jay Rock, he was really into the idea, and he helped kind of get it close. He ended up.

25:06 So what did you call him? J-Roc? Yeah. Selling a hit up, getting into selling heroin later, and, Why not? Yeah, right. And one of our friends, Vanessa, who was actually in this conversation at the time. Vanessa. She, got on heroin through him and then ended up getting in a wreck and losing part of one of her legs because she was on heroin driving.

25:36 Yeah, like Clockwork Orange shit going on up here. It was fucking crazy, dude. Do you think, like, honestly, that if you, like, add up all the stuff that you've done in your life that, like, if there was, what am I trying to say here? Like, if there was, if there was some kind of divine intervention or like, everything was known, you should should like from a moral standpoint, be in prison or have to serve time for things that you've done in your life easily.

26:05 But I wonder how many people that's actually true for. I don't know, I don't mean like parking tickets, like people that have really done some ill shit. They got away with it. Yeah. Because, you know, most murders go unsolved, like, I don't know, but I never. Stupid number of murder unsolved. I never killed anybody I they know of.

26:22 Right. But I never sold anything like heroin or cocaine or anything. That's funny to say that, you know? Right. I mean, I stuck with things like weed, you know, it's funny, like, there's these downstream effects that, you know, happen that that most people are never aware I happen, right. Like, let's say, let's say, for example, the people that make that Ashley Madison site, remember we're talking about that.

26:50 It's like design one of the top sites designed specifically for cheaters. You know type thing. Right. Like to have an affair. Yeah. It facilitates it I mean that's that hooks two people up and then some dudes like in some you know some place and the husband comes home early or whatever. Yeah. Pulls out the gun from the nightstand and blam.

27:10 Oh, right. Right. So, like Ashley Madison, it's called. Yeah. They never would have had this connection. Yeah, yeah. Like, it was the it was the link of that that facilitated the whole thing to happen. Oh yeah. And so like, these two people most likely never would have found each other organically on their own. Right. So although I don't think any, court of law would find them guilty and charge them, but at the same time, you know, there's a there's a causal connection chain of causality here that's like real, right?

27:47 Oh, yeah. So it makes you wonder throughout the course of your life, you know, through chains of causality, how much I would say the evil of it, you know, despair that you and I have created a lot of sowing of despair that I inadvertently created was probably on the periphery. I was probably peripherally involved with something. Right. Because most of the time, most of the time, I would either come up with an idea and someone else would executed, or.

28:18 That's interesting too, coming up with the idea, that's the initial seed, right? Yeah. And and that's the thing I'm saying. I'm culpable for that, you know. And but other times it they'd be in the middle of something. They'd be like, Sean, this is your job. And I'm like, okay, that's the periphery. Gotcha. So you can you imagine if human beings were thoughtful enough to where they sat down and really considered like probable chains of causality and what that might lead to in this grand ethical decision before they did most things.

28:45 How, how different things might be.

28:50 Like, how much, how much more ethical people would be. Yeah. S&P 500 futures have jumped jumped almost 2%. Okay. So my phone just tell me. All right. That was important to interrupt our podcast. Thanks. So.

29:09 I thought our listenership would want to know. Oh yeah. They're gonna run to their Robin Hood account right now. Their marriage trade account. That's another thing. Robinhood stock is just tanked recently.

29:24 Stocks.

29:28 So well, let's invent a system by which, you know, a bunch of people can think that they can just skim the cream off of society. Right. And and like and, like drink their in and get fat without any effort. Right. And it works for, you know, some people. Yeah. Not knowing that the majority of the people that really skim the cream off the top are the ones that are in the like in the system, like right where it's happening, the ones who have not 25 steps because they're creating it.

29:58 Right. Like congressmen. Yeah. Or, you know, heads of massive corporations with billions of dollars of investment, like hedge funds or Warren Buffett or. Yeah. So like, you know, senators, for example, meet all the time with business tycoons of any type and get tons of inside information and they're legally allowed to then invest what is just so messed up or put put options against things, right?

30:22 Yeah, yeah. Like, oh shit, this is going to tank calls or options or. Yeah. From what I understand, there's a few websites emerging now where, you know, you can actually see what what they put their money in and do the same yourself. That's nice. Yeah. Because that's not insider information from you that's publicly disclosed. Right. And generally they disclose it at the very last opportunity they have disclose it.

30:46 Sure. So because that's that's not you know shady. Right. And so I think that period of time something like 40 days or it's something ridiculous like okay, well if I was going for a day I would lock that shit down, right? I'd be like, oh no, no one should be able to participate in insider trading. Who runs the government?

31:10 So if I was king for a day, lobbyists wouldn't be a job title anymore. Now, would you do something crazy like burn all the lobbyists at the stake? No, no. Just make it illegal. Lobbying is illegal. And then the next day they get a return. Yeah. Oh, the Supreme Court. But I said, remember King for a day, not.

31:29 Yeah. You know, it's like you must abide by. Let's go for a week. Let's have a week of bliss. Okay. King for seven days. That was that. I guarantee you, if I really had full authority, I would put in a tremendous number of positive changes, I guarantee it. Yeah. And the thing is, I knew say my tenure was coming up.

31:53 I'd have to plan that shit for months. Yeah. I wouldn't be like, you know, how how can I find more creative ways to to take taxpayer dollars and shift it to big business? No, I don't think an outflow the other way. And can big business support communities? How can big business support society at large? I would have a tent city outside of every hospital, every primary, every urgent care facility, every doctor's office, because everybody would have fucking health care.

32:21 I'll tell you that right now that universal healthcare just makes sense. It's absolutely despicable. The richest nation on the world can't take care of that. That item. And one of the reasons why we don't the people who are in Congress have no incentive. They get the best health care the US government has to offer. That would change to they'd have to pay for their own plans or take public plan.

32:46 Yeah. And you know, Medicaid, Medicare, whatever. They're not old. They are. Yeah, yeah. Most of them are ancient. That's another thing. Can we change that? Well, you know, you're you wouldn't want to like you. Actually, you probably would, because you'd be completely reoriented in government anyway. Yeah. You know, no decision would be made by someone unqualified. So I'd have all these people in all these different communities, mostly volunteers that are subject matter experts in their field.

33:16 Right. As the source of information for, for this committee, the voting body. Yeah. Or be the voting body themselves for that specific thing, you know, and that's not a bad idea. But they try to do that with committees. They do. You have the same people in and out of all these committees, and they're not subject experts on that, on that, on that, on that topic.

33:34 Sure. After 20 years in a committee, you might have a tolerable amount of knowledge. But what about before then? You don't want, like some ancient congressman that doesn't even know how to use their own smartphone. Right, right. Like making a committee, making legislation on social media. The impact of social media on society. Exactly. And you can't tell me.

33:56 Yeah, sure. These people who are in Congress have led good lives and are probably cognitively better off than the rank and file of their own age, but you cannot tell me that there aren't a good swath of these people, either in the midst of early onset dementia, or who have just had absolute cognitive decline in our useless. Yeah, we're just not in the zone when it comes to that particular topic.

34:25 Yeah. You know, that's not when there's been rumors that Dianne Feinstein is actually, you know, cognitively impaired, cognitively impaired, severely. So she's basically like Bernie from Weekend at Bernie's or in her aides and assistants. Her pages are like, you know, got like a puppet on a string. They're moving her mouth. And she's like, making the best ever, like, statements.

34:51 I love that movie so much. There is this gut wrenching scene, and it wasn't the first one. It was one of the one of the one of the latter ones where they turn on the music and dance to the music and walked towards the trigger, and he had an arrow through his head. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they put him, like on the front of a of a horse drawn carriage.

35:11 And they're playing the music and he's like walking towards the treasure. So funny. He was pulling it and he had the harpoon through his skull. Yep. And then he hits a downhill and he's going through bushes and it's out of control. And he's like, he's he's on. He's on a, he's on a harness. And so like, he's hitting obstacles and he's spinning on the front of it.

35:31 His corpse is just spinning. And he's like, you know, his legs are still moving because the music is still playing. And I remember like, seeing that as a kid and just howling. Same here. Yeah. The actor who was a Bernie, I saw his picture once in a the one time I went to San Francisco, this, garlic place, the garlic rose like their deal was.

35:56 You probably seen restaurants that just loved their stick as they put as much garlic as possible and things gross. Well, so I was eating. Go home. Go home for a kiss after that. Oh, dude, it was worse than that. It was like for four days I had garlic parts, but, that's horrid. It was awful. Garlic is just it's delicious.

36:17 But I, I tend to have some reservation towards it because I don't want to be that guy. Well, this was with my significant other at the time and myself both eating it. So we were both of that guy. And yeah, some comedians said at one time, like, you know, two, two crackheads can stay together forever. And it's like.

36:35 Good point. This kind of idea, when both people do the same thing, like, if two people smoke, they can kiss without being grossed out and, you know, yeah, to wake and bake weed heads. Potheads. You're right. Yeah, right. It's like it just can work. Yeah. Because you have the you're you can't have one of them. Yeah. You're bonded by your vices and.

36:53 Okay. You just made me think of something. Whenever I was in the church as a kid, they used to say, in essence, when you're looking for a partner, look for someone who's in the same religion, right? Is that the same idea here? Definitely. You have the same vice? Yeah, the same invisible friend. Yeah. That's easy. Yeah, right.

37:16 That's so funny. We just equated it to a crack addiction. It is. It's an addiction of a different. But I'm not saying that I'm immune to it or anybody else is part of the human condition. Well, it is, it is. And on top of that, you know. All right, it's a it's an established replacement for a lot of addictions in those 12 step programs.

37:35 A lot of times they're trying to have you replace your addiction with religion and going to AA meetings or meetings or whatever. Swap it out with a lesser of evil. Yeah. Idea, right? Yeah. You feel like being a porch pirate? I am interested in what that package is.

37:54 It's nondescript packaging. Yeah, it's probably like for sex toys or something.

38:03 That's. That's something like you might be really skeptical about because, you know, like the people that set up these cameras and they have, like, porch pirates and stuff. And so they made like a, what is it like a, like a, pepper spray imbued array of dildos?

38:21 And it's got an audio built into it. Oh, no. Hey, baby, look what I brought for you. Oh, and then the strangest howling and screaming you've ever heard ensues about 15 minutes later. Oh, bunnies.

38:37 You know, something like that. Like these people that put the glitter bombs. They're, like chasing each other. You've seen the whole glitter bomb thing where they set it up the porch pirate comes and they take it away, and it's like ejecting fart spray. Oh, yeah. You know, it's a glitter bomb. This former Google engineer got went viral for making one of those.

38:56 Sure. Why not? And then you think about all the money in that glitter bomb. Like four webcams in there, right? You know, like, all the all the hardware that they had to, like 3D print and create and then the testing. How many times did they have to set this thing off to really to get it working? Servos like spraying the fart spray.

39:19 Yeah. An audio thing that does the countdown timer like it's going to explode, like etc., etc.. Yeah. Yeah. Which then makes you wonder, is everybody just an actor? You know, it's all all the stage. But I mean, if you get a popular YouTube channel that makes a finance that it makes a lot more sense at all. Just be staged.

39:37 It does. Just like everything else, like everything's fake except for Positively Pedestrian Podcast, which is actually real. Like we are legit walking right now. Oh, this is not fake. Wink, wink. Yeah, right. We were really fat, and we're sitting in the studio right now and just adding in the ambient noise. Yeah, we were we had we hired people to walk around the city and record ambient noise, and we just had it.

39:58 That's why today there have been no garbage trucks. Yeah. Not that we'd, like, change our course ten times to try to avoid it. Seriously judicious avoidance of a garbage truck. We just saw one in the distance. Thankfully, it went by before we got there. I'm so, like, keen on being genuine. Like, personally, that I would never do that.

40:20 And then if we ever were like in the studio recording this instead, it would be 100% disclosure. That's what we were doing. Oh hell yeah. Like, today's episode is at my desk. Yes, yes. Someone came home drunk last night. Yeah, it looks like it. There's, like, we're looking at a beta truck that's literally half parked on the sidewalk and, like, for no good reason.

40:41 Like, they could have parked on the sidewalk just fine. I mean, they could have parked on the street just fine. Yeah. There's like, no good reason that that vehicles have on the sidewalk, except for the fact that someone was. Someone came. Someone came in drunk at 2 a.m.. Yeah. And why? Cooked up? Yeah. I don't know, because it seems aggressive.

41:00 Yeah, exactly. And that was very aggressive. I mean, plus, when it hits your hit your rubber coke and an alcohol, it makes a new drug Coke. Ethylene. Is that right? Yeah. I didn't know that. And does it have some type of effects or offer some type of it. It offers the invincibility of cocaine with the lack of decision making of alcohol.

41:27 Oh, so it's like the murder drug. Yeah. Yeah I see. Like the drug of the drug preferred by most rapists. There we go. Preferred by most rapists. You know what? I think it's a good idea right now. Rape. Oh, damn. Because the coke has the mind still working, right? Right. Right. And then the. Then the alcohol has, like, no inhibitions whatsoever.

41:55 Yeah. And so then the primal brain is at work because they're dying at the same time. Because the drugs are so potent. Right. So you're, you're just, in a great decision making set right now. Yeah. Since we're talking about animals. My ex had this dog named, Yorkshire terrier named Chaucer. Okay. Oh, like Geoffrey Chaucer have the first novel.

42:17 Yeah. Which didn't fit her M.O. at all. Like opera. And, you know, classic literature didn't fit her M.O.. Right. But anyway, I'm not going to turn this into, like, dog my ex podcast. Right? Yeah, but we're talking about, you know, dogs. So little dogging is appropriate. Yeah. Right, right. He caught me. Yeah. You know, sometimes I try to get the jokes in under the radar.

42:42 You don't have to call them out. No, it's like, oh, he's joking. I'm just joking. Well, I wanted to bring up the other definition of dogging. It's kind of gross. Oh, no. So go ahead. Wait, should I pause? No. It's fine. Go ahead with what you were saying, and I'll follow up. The dog had some kind of neurological brain problem, right?

43:01 Yeah. And, the vet bills were like, you know, taking out a loan payment plan type fucking shit. Oh, God. And I'm like, the thing is the most adorable, cutest little thing. And like, the idea of just, like, savagely taking a shotgun and blowing it away just couldn't happen. Well, I could do it, but, like, I wouldn't be able to live with the fallout from, you know.

43:22 Right. You know, or whatever. You know, just be like, there's no way I'm paying ten grand plus on a dog. Yeah. You know. Right. And, I know that's savage, but no reality. I'd be the same boat, unfortunately, but I don't have that kind of disposable income. Right. She's of a different mindset. You know, I could finance it.

43:41 And there's, like, a really small chance that the intervention was even going to do anything, and it didn't. The dog died shortly thereafter. But anyway, the dog was having like, you know, it was, an adolescent dog. It hadn't hit its sex hormones yet or anything. Right. It wasn't sexually mature. But with the fact that it had this neurological problem, it would like hump things.

44:04 Right. Because it's like the primal instinct to, you know, reproduce. Yeah. You know, and, I've actually seen I know it's in the proper word, but retarded or extremely mentally disabled humans do the same thing. Okay. We had this kid, you know, with one big shoe and, like, real estate glasses and shit. Like in high school or in middle school.

44:24 And, he had a, assistant that that was dedicated to him. Okay. Whatever you want to call it. Teacher. I guess he called it. Called the teacher at the time or whatever. Sure. And, he would repeatedly, like, hump her, like. Same idea. Like. Right. So then you have this person cooked up with this weird, you know, chemical, you know, their ability dying because they're so much drug in them.

44:47 Right. And so that their primal brain is like. Yeah. Hump. Yeah. And I can totally see that. Totally, totally. You know, and I actually view, like, rape as, like a, what you would call it, like a lower, like a lower function, animalistic type act. Yeah. Even though I read that there's a psychological component to it.

45:09 Very much so. You know, so, like, I think there's like, maybe two tiers of it. It's like the people that have the psychological need to dominate. Right. You know, and then also there's like this just total dumbass that just doesn't have the brain capacity just as humping because, you know, they're fucking moron and they don't even realize what they're doing or what's going on.

45:29 Yeah. Just as that primal, you know, need to try to reproduce, you know? And it's funny, too, is like, you know, is there rape in the animal kingdom? Yeah. I mean, without being able to speak to them, without being able to, you know, by them. Dinner. Yeah. Get them in the fraternity party. No, I mean, the mixer.

45:51 I have, at the very least, seen situations where it didn't look like the other animal was very interested in the situation. Yeah, sure. And, like, you see, like, nature videos and whatever, where it's like the, the females, like, kind of fighting back to some extent. Yeah. Right. You know, so I guess technically, yes, it's right, but. Right.

46:12 You know, I don't think like there's a Y in court, you know, to work that out. Right. Right. There's not going to be any retribution for that. And it's going to kill the offspring of the previous. You know. Anyway, we were talking about that. Oh of course. Like how the lion. If it's if it's the new, you know, king of the dominant.

46:31 The new alpha. Right. And there's like these little cubs that were from the previous. It was, it was bite them and kill them. So crazy. And then, like, she's in heat in two weeks. Right. Moose and new set coming up. Yep. But, yeah, the other definition of dogging. You just couldn't wait. I'm just gonna get it out.

46:55 I love it. It's a horrible situation, but, I don't even want to say it, guys, but I committed to it. So. All right, dogging is, Oh. There's people on the edge of their seats waiting to hear the definition. You take are you take your wife out to a restaurant, and you, your wife decides that she wants to be dogged out by a bunch of dudes at the rest of.

47:25 Okay. Why rest up? Well, like you take your dog out at the rest up to take a shit. Yeah. It's a convenient place to meet. Usually advertise it beforehand. Oh, okay. Okay. I heard there's a lot of, like, truckers, doing gay hookups at rest stops. Really interesting. From what I understand, there's a lot of truck drivers, like, way higher proportion than the average in society.

47:50 Okay. That's interesting. I wonder why.

47:56 I don't know, riding long and hard, I don't know. Know. Damn. But but yeah, I mean, you know, there's got to be some sort of appeal, I guess, maybe for for that lifestyle. I have no idea. I, I've known though, like several people have told me that that, you know, know that are in the know. My uncle was a truck driver.

48:20 I'll have to bug him about it if it's true. Well, at least from his opinion. When he was a truck driver. Truck driver in the 80s. Whether or not. And again, it's his opinion solely. It's a sample of one. I'm not going to take a lot of, stock in it. All right. Man, whenever he was a truck driver, he came by and visited us.

48:45 Yeah. He slept in my bed that night. He smelled awful. Yeah. I mean, if you're on the road for days and days and days. Yeah. You know it's not done properly. We're like you plan out your rest stops and those rest stops are shower facilities and you know your seasons. You really know what you're doing and you have it all mapped out.

49:04 And I can only imagine. Come up, roll up. Pretty sink. Yeah, I can only imagine. And then, you know, after, after a day or two hanging out with us, he was he was a new man. He was able to recover. Because he had access to a shower. I was on a mission that lasted longer than expected.

49:21 It was like it turned out to be a two week mission on foot in Afghanistan. And our our, lieutenant and staff sergeant sergeant would not let us take off our armor because we were. Yeah. It's like, no, you're just not taking it off, because even sleeping the shit to. Right, because there's like, we could we could, like, go undercover someplace, like where there's covering concealment and take it off and use baby wipes to, like, wipe down.

49:46 Yeah. Right. Yeah. So I was in a tough spot because I was responsible for looking after everybody as the medic. Right. And so I'm like, every time we stop, I'm, like, treating people's feet because they're getting the. Yeah, they're getting like, swamp foot. They're getting, you know, all these nasty things. Yeah. And so I'm like making sure that preserves the fighting force type thing, doing everything I can.

50:08 So I'm like never getting a break and then we'll be like rack out for some time or whatever. Everyone's just coming up to me, you know, asking me for help on this, that and the other thing. Yeah. And so I was like, no rest, no rest whatsoever. I was the only guy for like, 400 plus guys. Dude, really?

50:22 Yeah. Because we merged with, one of the Afghan, What was it? Brigade. And we took, like, for their platoons. Whoa. And they had no medic. And then two of the other medics got evac for for whatever reason or pulled away. So not only are you dealing with 400 people, a good portion of them don't speak the same language.

50:43 Or don't think I had a permanently attached to me, so that wasn't an issue. But it was like just nonstop. I couldn't get a break. Yeah, no matter what. Like I had no rest. And so, it was like several days I hadn't my I hadn't even opened my armor to, to, clean up. Yeah. So I was like, you know, I feeling rancid, like and nasty.

51:05 Yeah. Ironically, though, I didn't have, like, body odor. I just had like, this feeling of this feeling. Gross. Okay. Well that's good because you know you sweat right. And like the sweat is somewhat purifying. You know it's kind of weird, but it's like wasn't any armpit I was always pretty putting on heavy deodorant. Oh, yeah. But anyway, long story short, I come out, get get, get inside this broken down building and take my armor off and my clothes off to, like, wash up.

51:31 Yeah. And this fucking stank, man. Oh, my God, this smell of, like, bad ham. Oh, yeah. It was like, rolling off my flesh. Oh, wow. And I'm wiping myself down with baby wipes. And the skin is coming off like, in, like in off and sheets swapping off. Yeah. And, I was like, when I get back to the base, I don't care how cold the water is, I'm taking me a monster shower.

51:56 Yeah. Dude. Got back to the base, took a shower. More sleuthing? Yeah. More like just disgust. Clean my armor, you know, with a with, all these disinfectants place all everything. I get my hands on cleaning it up. Yeah. And, Yeah. And then it was, like, two days out. Back out. Yeah, but, man, that contained, you know, just like your torso being in a containment, like.

52:23 Like in Saran wrap, basically. Yeah. For like five days or whatever, the body will just produce rot. Oh, yeah. It was very unhealthy. But I guess, you know, it's better than better than getting shot with your armor off. True. Yeah. Yeah. There's a reason they want to keep it on. I was advising heavily that we have rotations where we, you know, let people have some kind of hygiene, like in the stream or whatever, and they're like, no, no, no, I could have insisted I like, do you know, in the military, if you're the highest ranking medical like, and it's in that lane, you can call the shots like you can override, you can say,

53:05 we absolutely have to do this. Yeah, you can say I, I'm the highest ranking, you know, medical authority. And so I have the I have the determinant here. Like we don't do this. It will absolutely be a detriment right to someone okay. And there's like a standing order of operations that it's a standing order okay. So security is number one.

53:27 Go figure. Yeah. Right. Number two, like this is the order of operations. You have to do this before you can do this, right? An ordinal list of priorities. Yeah. So number one, standing order of security. No one would guess that, right? Number two is weapons maintenance. Yeah. Can't fire your gun. Why are you even out there? Right.

53:47 Right, right. Three is personal hygiene okay? Right. Four is eating okay? Nourishment. Nutrition. And number five is sleep. Hold down so you don't sleep until those other four things are taken care of. Wow. It makes sense. Oh. Big guy. Here we go. Look at that tail. We know. We know the truth. We know the truth.

54:15 That big and bad. That dog's name. Real name Rambo to be named Rambo. And it would be apropos. My dog. It was a short little pickle mix who was not scary. What other pet names did you have for your animals? You had to have had more than that. Oh, Magnus, my fluffy gray barn cat. Magnus. That's a cool name.

54:38 Well, so I like that one. My ex-wife wouldn't let me name any potential kid Magnus. So that's why I was. Because I could just envision my kid being like. I am Magnus, Lord of the playground, I like it. Well, he couldn't do that. He wouldn't have a bully. No. Not really. I just I just wanted to have a child under this phrase.

55:04 One time. One time with the with the three other unconscious boys that that with him and his arms are in the air when he says that, you know, just once. And even though he hasn't hit puberty yet, it somehow gets this booming man voice I am Magnus. Yes, yes. So anyway, obviously it was a lark and something stupid, but I figured I could name the cat Magnus and it would have a little impact.

55:32 I love it so his name was Magnus Walter Snodgrass. Nice. Walter was because of. Do you remember that show fringe? No. Okay. There was this, doctor in there who had been kept locked up for, like, 30 years. He was a really he was a savant and just had almost no moral qualms with researching anything. It was kind of like, you know, the propaganda, the propaganda version of the German doctors out of World War Two.

56:06 And this guy was just able to figure out all kinds of things. Well, they locked him up because he was dangerous. He fringe was about fringe science and people actually implementing some of the things on a grand scale that were theories or possibilities. I see this guy would try to crack how they did it and stop them. Cool, man.

56:28 So, Walter. Walter it was Walter had these little gray like fuzzy hair, hair, things everywhere. And so did Magnus. So that's why. Walter. Nice tie in, I like that. Then we had Millicent Mew born. What did you name that one as well? Yeah, I did. So her nickname was Millie for short. But the reason I named her Millicent Newborn is.

56:54 So I could say Millicent Newborn has such a malevolent meow.

57:00 Because it was the most awful meow I've ever heard. How these names are tied into these fantasies of phrases. Yeah, I love it. That's so fun. So she had the worst meow ever. It. It sounded like screeching. Just the bats. So not that it was cross wired. It just had a fucked up me out. Yeah. And she would just eat random things like dried beans.

57:24 She loves dried beans. She would open the cabinets to find them. What? I don't know, she was so weird. She could shit, right, though. Yeah. I'm sure. Shit. All that fiber. I guess the dried beans is like the feeling of, like, gnawing on the the the squirrels. Probably. Spine. Yeah. I wouldn't put it past her. She was the district.

57:45 Oh, all cats are sadistic. That's true. That's kind of the remote. You know, the the, You're all you need to do to know that is watch their eyes while you're playing with a string.

57:57 Because they want to kill it. There's no doubt in my mind that whenever the cat word is for murder is just. Is just being repeated like a mantra over and over. It's head. Good point. Good point. I've heard that they're constantly in what's the brain state we go into whenever we meditate? Alpha state or alphas? Yeah. They I've heard they're in a constant alpha state of death.

58:23 Right? Yeah. So that's why burden, you know, woodland creature populations get decimated by. Because they're so single minded about that on it. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Single and purpose. Yeah. So, like the, savant of death. Oh, damn.

58:43 We might offend some cat people. Yeah, and people that are sensitive have a child, right? Right. That's not. That wasn't the idea of folks. It was just a, you know, they're called jokes. Yeah. Almost everything today has been a joke. Everything that we ever said ever has been joke. Yeah. And we're we're we're, hiding behind that disclaimer like a small child does behind a skirt of the mother.

59:10 Yeah. When when when a bad guy pops out. I mean, totally we are. Yes. That is our. That is our thin little shield.

59:21 We're using the same thing for fair use. Reason. The same thing.

59:27 Yeah, yeah. Anything we brought up is definitely under the umbrella of fair use. You know, fucking. If South Park can get away with all the shit they get away with. Surely our podcast is way under the radar. You know, like, they have that disclaimer at the beginning of every South Park episode, which I think that combined with satire, fair use legally covers them.

59:48 But they, like, you know, specifically name people. They do. And the caricatures are like one hot. Yeah, yeah. Like Tom cruise in the closet as a perfect example. Yeah. And they're not just like using a different name, right?

1:00:08 They're not trying to hide it and use a different name. They're like specifically naming it. Right. It's like yeah, yeah. I don't know how they get away with it. Or maybe they don't I don't know, maybe they get out. Maybe there's a lot of lawsuits every year. Maybe they've never made a dime just because they've had everything. And now that they're completely broke, they don't care anymore.

1:00:30 They're like, you know, credit score less than 200 and no assets. But they get to go on these junkets to make the episodes so high. Yes. And that's how they live their lifestyle. That'd be so cool, man. It's all on whatever. Whatever. Network's paying for its dime. That would be so clever saying I heard some comedian talking about.

1:00:51 I think it was Dave Chappelle talking about Anthony Bourdain killing himself. Oh, yeah. It was like, this guy is like, going all around the world, you know, eating the best food you can ever imagine, hanging out with the coolest people. Yeah, like traveling the world. Right, right. And just recording it. And that's his job. You know, he eats and drinks and loves life.

1:01:11 Like, how are you pissed off? And he was comparing it to this guy who was, like, got a full ride scholarship and was, like, premed in some school. Went on to become a doctor. All this kind of stuff. Yeah. And he runs into this guy and he's like, working at some, you know, like minimum wage job, you know, type thing.

1:01:28 Okay. And, Yeah. And so he, Oh. That's fun. Yeah. So he talks to him about it and like, he went through a terrible divorce. The lady took everything, you know, kind of idea. Yeah. And, you know, Chappelle says it in a way that's so fucking funny, you know? And this guy doesn't want to kill himself.

1:01:47 Right. So he's contrasting, you know, like something's something's backwards here. Like that guy should want to kill himself. Yeah. Yeah. He's had absolutely everything ripped away from him. Yeah. After all his hard work and wants to kill himself because his girlfriend did some crazy shit on social media and upset him. Oh, that. That couldn't have been it. But that was a big contributing factor.

1:02:11 See, I don't know. Yeah, I just I just heard that he died. Like, hopefully that's not totally it, but that was put up as a contributing factor. Gotcha, gotcha. Older guy, younger woman. He's smitten. She does something that upsets him. I fantasized about suicide when I was a kid. Not like to think about actually doing it. Just the fantasy of doing it right.

1:02:33 Like, I was never, like, teetering on the edge of a bridge or something. But I'd like, thought about what it would be like to, to to jump off a bridge, you know. Right. Because I've heard of these people killing themselves. And, like, what would it be like to like. It's like, is it this rush? Is it this euphoria that just carries you on through the act?

1:02:49 Is it, you know? Yeah. And, you know, I've thought about murdering somebody, but I've never done it, like, you know. There's definitely this domain of, like, in your mind, curiosity, fixation, wondering what something would be like, but never having any kind of intention or impulse or idea towards doing it right. Totally. And, so I found that really interesting, you know, that, you know, what would it be like to kill yourself in this way?

1:03:14 Right. I remember thinking about that, like as a young teenager, like, because I've heard stories about people doing these things and I'm like, oh my gosh. Like jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge. Or as an adult, I heard about this thing with this guy, built his own G a team from hardware store part and it worked. Damn. Deliver on himself.

1:03:38 Yes. Damn. Because he spent over a year building it. You think at some point during that be like, man, I'm pretty awesome. I figured out how to do all this. Maybe I shouldn't kill myself. I mean, I don't think this is a very elaborate device, but at the same time to. Well, he wanted to make sure he died in one shot.

1:03:56 Right. So maybe it was fairly elaborate. I've thought about that, too. Like completely painless ways to die. Like, you know, like, how could you like these two super heavy walls that are, like, massively spring loaded? Yeah. Just load somebody up in there and just. Yeah, just just, like, smacks him like a bug. Dang. You know, that would have to be pretty painless.

1:04:16 That would. It would. Oh, the lethal injection. You know, you can't never ask the person you know. Did it hurt? It looks like it would. But based on, you know, the science, it shouldn't, you know. Yeah, yeah. Because I guess they've used some of the other drugs to knock people out. And then people have no recollection of any pain, surgery or whatever.

1:04:33 So, yeah, they have this cocktail of drugs. And I mean, you'd have to imagine that it's, you know, calculated out to where it's not going to hurt. Supposedly it's a very UMaine, but they're having problems getting those drugs now. Oh, really? Isn't like, isn't isn't isn't it mostly. Most states now isn't like, capital punishment. I mean, isn't it just like a handful of states at this point?

1:04:56 I think so. I think I think only a handful of states and, the manufacturer, I believe the manufacturers of these lethal injection drugs aren't, are really wanting to sell them to the states. Okay. So that could be another deterrent. But I mean, there's I guess maybe like in Texas, I would be surprised if they still do or.

1:05:18 Yeah, like some hanging, you know probably. Come on man. Hangings gotta suck. That's gotta be awful. I mean, he basically just that's just apps that can't be good. Like, that's gotta hurt. Sorry about this. Still following us? Oh, beef. Yeah. I never smelled it. That was a nasty one. It's probably wafting up your own shirt. Right, right. You're.

1:05:45 You're recycling. I'm just hopping my own. But, yeah, it's gonna go back in your blood and blood gas, and it's going to filter it back out and get a fart it again later. Did you ever, like, follow some car that was not tuned properly? It would smell like sulfur or something like 30 minutes later. You fart and smells like sulfur.

1:06:02 Have that. I never noticed that happened to me one time. It's like way, way back in the day I was following a Subaru. How the fuck I remember that, but I remember it. Right. And like, terribly of, like, Satan, you know, hell. Sulfur. Right. And then like, later on that night, I beefed and and it was just straight sober.

1:06:21 Egg. That egg smell. Rotten egg smell. That's so funny. Yeah, dude, somehow my body, like, you know it. It's so funny. Which brings me back to the garlic concept. Yeah. Oh. Fully penetrating and viewing every part of your body like leeching out of your skin. We had we had 40 garlic, 40 garlic clove chicken. We had some kind of garlic advertiser we had.

1:06:43 It was like, how was it any chicken. Garlic with some chicken as like condiment. They had these massive chicken breasts and they inserted all this garlic underneath the skin. And then they had garlic all over the plate. And yeah, it was crazy. It's like a No, that's too gross I can't say. Oh, go for it. Can't say it on recording.

1:07:04 No, but but but it's like at some point, you know, at some point it's not really chicken anymore. I know it's, you know, like like you can when you put enough spice and enough like the people that do the challenges, like the 2 million Scoville units. Yeah. And the thing is, like, dark red, like crystallized with the with the sauce on the chicken finger or whatever it is.

1:07:26 I'm telling you, you're not tasting chicken when you're. No, it's just a delivery mechanism for absolute tongue scorching heat. Yeah. So then why bother with the chicken, right? Like, why didn't you just eat the slab of whatever. Take a spoonful of what the. You know. Oh, the spice that came from a jar with an atomic bomb, you know, on it somewhere or something.

1:07:49 I have some hot, hot salt, and that's hot enough. There's. I got a hold of it one time. This pure black pepper extract. Oh, wow. And you'd think that that'd be like, you know, no big deal. It was a big deal. Like a few drops of that. And it was. It was on. And, we put it on that that roommate that I had back in college, the guy, Skippy, he probably heard me talk about it before, like, I we could do a whole podcast just on Skippy, right?

1:08:17 You should. And I'm not the peanut butter of the person, right? And that wasn't his real name. You know, he's like in his mid 30s trying to stay in the college scene. Oh, damn. He had, like, a dad tattoo on his arm. Like of a castle. No shit. And, was like, that bad kind of overweight. Wow. Like the puffy overweight.

1:08:36 Not just like someone carrying a belly or something, but, like, puffy everywhere. Just bloated. Yeah. Right. It's like if you were to scalpel his skin, it would just flay open and you'd see, like, the white. Yeah. If he was like. If he was, like, in the ocean and a shark bit his leg, it would look like someone bit a corndog from the side, you know, like, that's what it looked like.

1:08:55 Like this thick layer of, of bread jump was with like an eraser. Meat of meat in the middle. Like. That's funny. Like, you know, it's like a with a meat core. Like, that's basically what he was. And anyway, he was like, trying to be all fucking cool and talking shit. And he's like, grip, grip, grip, flip that sauce on a sandwich that he had.

1:09:13 Yeah, I don't remember what the sandwich was, but he gets his big old bite of it. And we were just like, had taken our pinky like ports him onto a dish, took our pinky and like, just dabbed it and put it in. All of us were like coughing. And it was hardcore, right? He was do. Yeah. He's like, thought he was badass.

1:09:29 Oh, Pepper. Oh that's nothing. Good good good good. Right. And he bit that sandwich and he's like orange like full you know. Not non edit. And his face totally changed. And the next thing out of his mouth was oh God.

1:09:46 And then he's straight to the sink. Spit it out. Disposal. Spit it out through the sandwich. Down like like it was like it was a like like it was burning him. Like he threw the sandwich down. Like it was like a hot potato. Yeah, like radioactive. Like if you like. If you like, picked up a coal from the fire and like, I was like, oh, like, that's how he dropped it.

1:10:04 Because. Because his, his mind and his body was like, get that away from me. And he's sitting there at the sink just splashing water into his mouth, scraping his tongue with the hiccups. Oh it, it hit his, hit him so hard. Yeah. And he wasn't really the kind of guy to get red faced. But in this case he was beat red faced.

1:10:20 Oh, shit. He's like, literally scraping his tongue with his nails, trying to get that heat out of his mouth. Damn. And it was, I guess, with the thing I've ever been there, I guess with the pepper, like the black pepper, the milk wasn't really that much of a remedy because he was like, tried that. He didn't. It was like 30 minutes of agony for him.

1:10:36 Wow. But do you feel sorry for him? Like, how can you feel sorry for him? He thought he was a ass. I mean, he was just trying to show off because apparently he was a hot sauce connoisseur. Right. And so for him, like, oh, yeah, I've done all the challenges. Like. Yeah. And I mean, I consider myself the same, but I try a little bit of something before I put it all over something, determine whether or not I can handle it.

1:11:03 And, you know, like that roommate that always eat your food and shit. Yeah. So what's up, dude? We would pull our money and go to, like, a Costco or whatever. Sam. Some big box store, and we try to get things in bulk to save money. Like calculate out some stuff. And that dude would just, like, eat all of our supplies.

1:11:19 And so as we started contaminating food and, you know, with, with whatever, you know, and then after a few times of, like, him eating rancid stuff, it like started to, you know, slow him down, but he'd just wait to see us eat something and then would go away. He'd eat that thing. Like, he was that kind of guy, like, totally that kind of guy.

1:11:38 That dude for a job. Oh, he's like, work that Best Buy or something like that thing. So he had no money? Yeah. He's like, graduated with a psychology degree or something. And, you know, something that that wasn't very highly marketable. Right. And, and, I mean, he just doesn't seem like he'd be a highly marketable fellow. And he was, like, working and then part time working on his master's degree.

1:11:57 So, like, it still qualified him as a college student, even though he was, like, just there to try to be relevant. Wow. But anyway, he had gotten this new computer, spent all my money on it, and, it had came with, like, Microsoft and Carta. Yeah, like CDs loading up the encyclopedia card on 95. And, he had this boss ass because he worked at Best Buy or whatever.

1:12:17 So he had, like, this boss ass laptop that had, like, this huge drive. And he asked me if he could borrow one of my disks and I had like Microsoft Music and like all these cool, like they're like cool. Come with all kinds of crazy stuff when you bought those new computers. Oh yeah. They tried to give you an incentive by by software.

1:12:33 Right. Yeah. And the software was just, you know, mostly on CDs. Right. And anyway, there was this. So I'm guessing this some windows 95 era, probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Somewhere in there that was like the height of when they would just buy you with stuff. There was a lot of information there. There was a lot of, like, stuff that was kind of interesting to have.

1:12:51 Yeah. And, he thought it was really cool. And he had an external CD drive. And, but his laptop was pretty boss for the time and had a huge hard drive. And what he did was he took every one of my CDs and burned them, ripped them into his computer, into his computer. He asked me if he could borrow it and I said sure.

1:13:07 He had no problem, but then it like pissed me off because he basically like, stole all my titles, you know? Yeah. And, if he'd asked me if he could do that, I. Was it. Yes. Yeah. But the fact that he just took it upon himself. Right. He said, can I borrow. Yeah. You didn't say, can I steal?

1:13:23 Yeah. You're right. Right, right. So I had made this. This will last for the day, but I made this, like, elaborate batch file. Yeah. When you first start up the computer. Right. Like, Well, what was it that a file that you could like cmd that that would fire automatically when you start the computer? Okay. And he had Norton Antivirus on there.

1:13:44 So I made this elaborate message being like Norton Antivirus detected, blah, blah, blah. Right. And then it was it was as cleverly worded as I could possibly do. And then it said, if prompted to, to conduct a, unconditional format. Oh, shit. Say yes. Oh. No way. Don't worry. No, no data will be lost. Damn. So then, of course, I just ran the command after that for unconditional format.

1:14:10 Of course he's like yes. Right. And like so. Yeah. You know you know what happened from there. Just everything was gone. And he was asking me for help to see if I can recover and fix it. And I'm like hey I don't know. Like I don't know. I've never heard of this kind of error before. You know, like that's weird.

1:14:26 Must be a boot sector virus from all those disk you're stealing. And it happened like pre OS. OS load. So, like, had full access to the system, like the command. And of course, it's not hard to find the command for like know the fully unrecoverable unconditional format. Well yeah. I think it was like for you to the format command something like that.

1:14:44 And it just comes back when it restarts. Finally it just comes back with just see prompt done like C prompt. That's it. Like you know. Yeah. Oh and it probably didn't even have anything on the disk. It was just whatever was in memory the, the, you know, Command.com that was in memory. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. And remember like it used to it used to I don't know if you remember this part where it would actually like, have a built onto the board, the basic OS.

1:15:17 Remember that? Yeah. With some of the old 80s computers. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it would actually have, like, the primitive, dos. Yeah. Like on the board itself. So, like, you could do that. Yeah. It was like, it was like the best idea they had to like pre bios, the pre really elaborate bios like they have today. And that by the way that's that's huge.

1:15:37 Like my computer I don't even understand my bios like I've been. It's been too long. I do not understand half the shit that's in my bio. So much crazy stuff in there now. Yeah. And, and I've messed with it and had it trouble then recovering it, like, so it's like I'm scared to mess with it. So get a hire a pro to, like, make sure my bios is tweaked.

1:15:56 Right? Right. I mean, really, though, it's just it's. I think I just took myself down a notch and my it hurt them like I just admitted. Well, I overwhelmed by bio. I actually read the manual for the new the computer that I bought the Gavin and Gillian a couple of years ago because I had to figure out how to do whatever clocking in the bios.

1:16:21 I've read that coverage on the dark side. Yeah, reading manuals now, I know we talked about that. We did. Like when you start reading the manuals, you made a tipping point in your life. It's like, well, I've realized that my nascent skills that I thought I had, the ones I thought I had honed and developed, weren't good enough to face down this new technology.

1:16:44 On that note. Oh, shit.