Rights in a Crisis & The Faithful Pseudoscientists
In this episode of Positively Pedestrian, we discuss the long-overdue and much-needed shift in American Culture. From Gun & Bible fanatics to Pedophile Priests, to Hands-On Scout Masters, to social media as the dominant source of news, to the faithful hordes of Pseudoscientists, we need a shift to sobriety, healthy skepticism, and empathetic human-centered concerted cultivation of our citizens at every stage of life. Plus, some bad jokes.
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As far as voting? Well, no. What's the general idea behind the bill? Oh, the general idea behind the bill is, putting, Tighter restrictions on the youngest, governor gun owners. There's a domestic violence provision that says, hey, if you're not married to your partner, then and you commit, domestic violence, then, we're going to prevent you from getting a gun.
I think, there are some as some money going to states for, mental health programs. Okay. There's, money going to states that have the red flag laws. That's 19 states plus, the District of Columbia, as far as, you know, allowing people to take guns away from people who seem a little off. There. Yeah.
That's a crazy tumor on that tree. I think three has cancer. Yeah, that's. That's unusual. Wow. And, I'm sure there's some other things, but that's that's what comes to mind after. Gotcha. Almost. Reading an article on it this morning. It's weird, like, you know, just to really have the most rapid change for gun reform would be like a change in society for people, like, basically, you know, making, what do they call this, the furnace like smelter and just throwing these things into a big pit and melting them down, like, that's really the only, like, the way that the pace is seen in my lifetime.
The only way is going to have a change in the culture, you know, like, from the bottom up. Because the powers that be in government are the lobbying, the NRA and all these kind of groups are so strong that it's just like and there's like this really strong division like some people in the culture, just like guns are just the culture right now.
Go cocaine Bibles. I don't I don't necessarily have a problem with guns, people owning them, you know, exercising their, Second Amendment rights there. But ultimately I think that, Yeah, it would be nice to see some cultural changes, but we have examples of how to have guns and regulate them. You know, I think just a big old pit.
Throw em in, move forward. That's that's been. But I know it's very radical. Yeah. It is it is a little radical compared to, you know, the gun toting people in the Bible belt, like you said. Yeah, we get a lot of things wrong in this country, in our culture and in our government. We do. We get a lot of things right to us, for sure.
But, you know, rather than hoping for such a sea change, maybe we can make incremental change. I don't know, I that's what I'm saying. I think that that's what's been been is trying to happen. And it's so slow, you know, it's like it's a slow walk. It's it's slow walk to death, you know, real change. Right? You know, and so, these kind of like bills and ideas, they just kind of die.
And then, you know, they resurge again after some major incident. And that's the only reason this one's come about. It's the first attempt in 29 years to curb things a bit, you know, talk to talk to kids about, talk to kids about it. You know, and the kids have a pretty clear vision of what's going on. They they're sick and tired of being terrorized by, you know, either a shooter in their school or the threat of it.
And that's the that's the thing. The kids from Parkland in Florida, that was they were very articulate, from a from an affluent community. They really tried to push things, but we had someone in office who tried to couch them as a false flag operation, who tried to say they were actors, blatantly. So. You know, I think the only way to deal with those kind of people is to just flat out ridicule and just be that louder voice, be the stronger voice over them.
Like, literally, there's the time. Gun control real quick. First hurdle is us. Okay? But I think. First hurdle. How many hurdles are they? You know, so, you know, as I was saying, if these adults would have the fortitude to actually listen to their children, you know, when the children sometimes, sometimes children have a voice that needs to be heard.
Other times they need to be ignored because they're stupid. But sometimes kids have, you know, a voice that that absolutely 100% should be heard. But what I'm gonna miss, the one of those cases is, rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater and not listen to anything kids say, I say we give them an ear first and then take the opportunity to tell them what they said was dumb.
Yeah. Like so when you're when your son says, I don't have to go to school because I'm going to be a YouTube creator, right? You like, you don't listen to that. Well, you hear that? No, no, you of course you hear it. You hear it. What I'm saying is, you don't entertain it. You don't say, oh, yeah, Sunday school is not important, right?
Right. You say the more you learn in school or the better YouTube creator you be able to be. I never really what it used to be, right? Right. It's so you see, spin it. You have to become a T-shaped individual person. Right? But when they say I'm scared of getting shot in school, you don't spin that. You say, yeah, this family doesn't own a gun.
And we advocate against it, right? Pointing guns and only do is hurt people. And you talk to them about safety measures and how to conduct themselves in the event that something like that does happen to some extent. And I also say like, if you're with a friend and your friend, if you're with a friend and your friend is like, you know, hey, come look at my dad's gun or whatever, absolutely not.
You make that decision right then and there to walk away. Yeah, let's not get shot, you know, because that's where most of the shootings happens. People fucking around with a gun shoot their sons shoot themselves. Yeah. It's it's clear guns, guns kill people. Guns are for killing people. It's a convenient way for suicide. So someone that might otherwise, you know, have a harder time committing suicide.
They have a boy that's a like really super quick way out man. But a lot of people are there. There's that there's that stupid rhetoric where they say, you know, that guns kill people, guns don't kill people. People kill people. Yeah. And it's like, but and.
Gun. I mean, the gun is the instrument of death. It's the, you know, so a hammer is designed to bang nails and pull nails, right, right, right. And a saws designed to cut wood. Sure. You know. Right. Well, that's a tool with a purposeful range of uses. Right. Like a fork is, is for eating a meal. The fork, though, didn't make me fat.
Me eating too much made me fat. Well, the the shit they put in it, what they call food in America is like big contributor what makes people fat. But anyway, good point. We talked about that. But you know, this is specifically for guns. It is a tool for killing people, for killing, for for ending life. Yeah, that's what that tool is.
It's to kill or at best main. So you you mentioned guillotines the other day. So you know, imagine if like everybody had a guillotine in their front yard. Oh yeah. You know, so there's a tool designed for beheadings. Yeah. There's nothing else we could use that for. Yeah. You don't need to like sliced melon. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to be like, man, I have a really big watermelon.
I can't cut it in half of the regular knife. Let me break out the guillotine. Let's go to the front yard of using it. Yeah. And and, test the guillotine. Yeah, yeah. Well, it works, guys, you know, so the. So the tool for ending life is, you know, for, for killing is guns. And so that is like, you know, super crystal clear.
So we need a cultural shift. We need people to, to say collectively as a society. Right. Enough is enough. We're tired of our children being terrorized by either having a shooting or the threat of it. Sometimes the threat of it over a long period of time can be overwhelming. You know, think about that. Like you're going to school and you have a presence of mind daily because of the media.
And it's such a popular topic in society. And you hear of these things happening. So you have, I don't know how many schools, 15,000 schools and say, probably more than that. I don't know how many schools in America, but what? Right. Sure. So your percentage chance of your son or daughter school getting shot up is close to zero, right?
It's very tiny. Yeah, but that doesn't mean there's not a presence of mind. Right. And that presence of mind serves as a as a as a point of tension. A point of anxiety. Sure. Right. For everyone involved and our children, the suicide rate amongst our children these days is absolutely terrifying. But that's increasing. That's due to a lot of things, not just gun violence.
Pressure. True is it is is due to a lot of things. But the increase in the number of school shootings is a testament to like the sentiment of how some of these kids are feeling. Right? Right. You know, they have no body. They have no outlet, they have no no hope for the future. And they're angry. It's obviously going to be pretty angry to go in.
But yeah, you do. Are you doing your jump? So, you know, you take that, you take that away. Take that at least step, that step that, that, that tool use away in that circumstance and you've made massive progress. But let's say we can't take it away, but maybe we can curb it and then let's also attack the other side, which is the mental health component that you just mentioned.
Well, that's tied into health care. And we know the health care disaster. That's another culture, right? Failing our country. If it makes it through in this bill intact, there's money and provisions to at least aid what little bit we've got going. Okay. You know, and I think that's the thing that's we got gotta look at what we've got and build on it.
And like you said, it's slow and frustrating and we are in a dire situation, but. Yeah. So, you know, moving the Titanic isn't always the easiest thing to do. Like, it takes, you know, a lot a large effort to shift shift that to change direction. It takes, you know, like some of these, some of these big cargo.
God. Have you ever seen a house closer to another house? That one house I don't know, but just make them townhomes, connect them all together. Jesus. You know, so think about this idea, right? Like some of these. The cat is like, so prissy, so majestic, just sitting there watching. He's on loving guard. Hey, guard cat. He on a swivel, too.
He's like, I'm watching you for not fuck this bloke. A cat sitting right outside of a window with a sign that says, beware of Dog is pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, you. We take a picture of it to include. Sure. Why not? So, you know, when it goes to moving the Titanic kind of idea or moving like one of these giant cargo ships, right?
You know, it takes, like, maybe a mile to get it to change course. Because it's still megalithic. Like. Oh, it's all right, too. Yeah, I do, I have them both to to effect real change. Right. Yeah. What I'm trying to say is to effect real, any real changes is more or less a Herculean effort. You know, to the point where it's really easy to say, like micro efforts don't really can't, can't just physically amount to anything.
Like they can't produce the change, the effective change that's necessary. So like sometimes sometimes you have to start over like weight and slate clean on something. Right. And rethink it. Yeah. Rather than trying to spackle and patch and duct tape what we have I mean yeah, you can't always retool.
I mean, what about just shutting down all future gun production done. So then. But let everything that exists just rust and die away, right? That's one way. Yeah, yeah. You're not taking away anyone's guns. You guys can keep the ones you have. We're just not making any more extent. Yeah, we're just not making any more the civilian purchase of firearms.
You can buy what's out there in the, ether, but there's no more new sales now, then. So as a companion said, if we were to do something like that, I really feel like what we need to do also is really crack down on ghost guns machine and, the, the machining of blanks, you know, to, because they've got specific things.
Sure. You'd have, like, pop up. Yeah, you'd have, like, pop up foundries. Yeah. Like making illegal ones. Guns. Sure. Yeah. You have that. And then you have the whole, like, technology industry you're printing. Yeah. When the material science catches up to there where, like, you could you print a gun and you can 3D print a gun, but only do a few shots right now?
Yeah. Those are the kind of guns that we need. Yeah. Because then you don't have these mass shootings, right? Yeah. There we go. And hopefully the design blows up in the shooter's hands. No shit. That cat that we just saw is in the window with the side. Now take a picture. That's crazy. The cat that we just talked about, this, now, this other cat's on the window, it says, beware of dog.
The cat is in that window. Now, you take pictures. I have my you have to. Oh, now we got another dark, dark cat. These people are going to be like, what's going on? See the cat right there in the window? Now that's hilarious. Right? Yeah. I can't get better not invade this person's privacy anymore. Fucking. That's funny though.
Look, never get. That other day, another cat was like, we're calling them in. That's a that's the reserve. That's hilarious. Dude, how did it get it? Groceries. Right. It was weird. It's got a cat door. Probably. Yeah. If there's people, like, awake and hurt us right now, they're probably freaked out that there's two, like, full grown man outside their house talking, pointing at their windows and shit and like, what the fuck?
Or how? Yeah, yeah, this is, this is what? Where we don't need the stand Your ground law right. That's for get a psycho fucking bullet comes flying through and that's it. End of our podcast. You know, like you're talking about drones. Forget the life. Forget our lives. That our podcast is in over. Well, and that's the most important day.
Okay. All right. That's the podcast. Yes. Because it's not like we've invested 41 and 48 years respectively in these live as opposed to mere months on said podcast, when really the whole idea for the podcast was just to walk. Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't count much of the first ten years of my life because I don't remember hardly anything from that time.
So I don't I don't count that because, like, you know, I wasn't really autonomous. I was just that I existed. But, you know. Right. You kind of just floated through. Yeah. Most of that's just erased. Yeah. So, I mean, I guess you can count like teenage years and the, the upper school age years, right? I learned to have some kind of autonomy and decision making.
Yeah. Thoughts on my own. I think, like you said, somewhere around 10 or 11 is probably a good point to say you're an interesting person. Through my 20s, I was just floating around like, you know. Yeah, like, I don't know, no real purpose or direction. Same. I mean, I was an aimless there is, dare I say it, useless motherfucker that in my 30s I like somewhat started to pull my head on my ass and be responsible and like, take some things seriously.
Like like like matters of love and things like that. Sadly, I think that, this is a calling to direct trajectory. And now in my 40s, I'm just tired. So. Yeah. Yeah. So, so like, the applying all the lessons learned is so difficult. Takes so much energy. It seems to take twice the effort that anything took in your 20s doesn't it.
Yeah. Right. And yeah. And then and then apparently like in my 50s, 60s and beyond, it's just going to be like sitting there like, with brain fog, trying to. Yeah. I'm trying to think about what to do today. Yeah. Yeah. That's not true. That's not true. I mean, hell, this isn't a this isn't an elder bashing podcast.
No, no, not at all. If you look at some of the previous things we said about, elderly people, we've been actually quite gracious. We've been very kind to elderly people. Podcast. And really, I, I think that's the way to go. Generally because like you're saying, what we're trying to say is you accrete knowledge as you gain age, you get wisdom through experience.
But it's hard to affect the world. The older you get. Yeah, there's some point there. But, you know, also you have like, your neuroplasticity decreases as you get older. So it's like really easy to be closed minded. And technology's moving society so fast. Things are shifting so much that like change as being the only thing you can count on as being constant, right?
The only thing constant in life is change, right? And that's happening more rapidly as we expand technologically. And so old, getting older now is going to be way more difficult, because society is way more prone to leave you behind and leave behind quicker. Through the technology gap. Yeah. Right. So, yeah, with that being said, there's like pretty serious, issues for elderly people going forward in the future because of the technological divide.
No doubt about it. I mean, come on, grandparents today are way more out of touch and grandchildren than they were 50 years ago. And, you know, I've seen a couple of situations that really highlighted how you can do the opposite. So. Oh, yeah. I'm not a fan of that idea, but I know why it should be done.
Yeah. What we're referencing is cans of food just being left out for people that that quote unquote need it. Yeah. And, I'm really against that. That's just sitting out in the hot sun. You got all kinds of problems with that. Yeah. Perishable botulism, all kinds of you know what, what's what if someone gets massively sick on that, who's responsible?
Yeah. No one's going to be held culpable for that. And, you know, if the person gets mashed up, we say they're most likely not in a position to do something about it themselves. Yeah, there's all kinds of things to like, you know, the consistency of it. It can the person rely on it. You know, there's I don't know, there's like charities that work really hard to make sure there's a stable food supply coming in for homeless people.
And if you take your efforts and put them into those charities, you're doing the maximum good for your dog. Other than leaving corned beef hash on a rock. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And that's literally what it was. Yeah, yeah. It's not the right answer, but but that's a, intention thing, right? Versus application. You have this whole idea of like, you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions, right?
But, you know, you can't you can't deny the intention of that, you know, good intention. It was the thought involved, right? Someone's trying to do something nice. Yeah. And more than likely, it'll be a bad. More than likely somebody's going to take it up to it, not die. And let's hope. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, back to the back to the topic, you know, for for me, I just think if we had a groundswell, a cultural shift in America and we may very well make as the young people who have this idea, you know, towards guns, like we got to get we got to change something.
Young people definitely have that idea. And so as they come up you know there's a high chance that they're gonna and it's an idea the right kind of change that we need to encourage and support I think so I think so cause I know growing up I had a lot of world changing and impactful ideas. But as I got older, the world didn't support them and it was harder to maintain those ideas.
Yeah. Did you see this, whole thing in Texas where they've made all these, like the Republican legislature has made all these draconian proposals? You're like, I heard about that in the news cycle. You know? Well, they're like making a decree that Joe Biden's not the lawful president. Like, yeah, they're like doing it from a legislative position now.
Oh my God. But good morning. Good morning. Where they're actually like, you know, making a government public stance on these things. That's stupid. One other one was like homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle. Okay. So they call it out as an aberration and something against the norm, apparently. So you can use that as a foundation. Then for other things.
Right, so that they can use it as a foundation for slippery slope thing, precedent in, lawmaking. Yeah. And, you know, it's when, when you see things like that. Oh, they're talking about seceding from the Union. I wish they were that. Now it's Jesus. I'm just saying, you don't want to be part of this shit. Go.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean that the a lot of people there, you know, want that. True, true. But they would vote on it. And if they vote on it and the majority decides I'm all for it, go ahead and go. Yeah, I don't know. That's a pretty, pretty strong idea. Like it is a strong country. I mean, it's a massive economy and it's a massive amount of people.
It's a big deal. They are each state becomes its own country, inevitably. Imagine that. That would be insane. But they have their own core. Rhode Island. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. Well, there's a certain amount of influence there. It might carry it through. Maybe. Yeah. Or maybe just per capita, they've got a lot of gas. Yeah, yeah, maybe.
Yeah. Like, Rhode Island has its own nukes.
Right. Where do you put it? Right. It's like you got to store the nukes in another state. But we have them here. Yeah, right. Right. They they pay. They pay like New York to to house their nukes. So that's funny that are going to be funny. Like, take that guy's shirt and like dangle it out of your pants pocket.
So like when he goes by again he sees that you have his shirt talking about this guy who's jogging on this, like, greenway type track we're walking on. And there's lots of people jogging on, said Greenway right now. Yeah, but he's the only one who decided to take off his shirt and put it on a bench. Yeah.
So we're talking about like, swiping the the that shirt, but then like, also letting it be known that we swiped the shirt like, you know, even wear it. You right. Wear it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like straight up. Just put it on. Yeah. Like wear it and just be like just trying to see how he reacts as he walks by.
That's a dog's way. Yeah. That's funny. Like, so, like full on brazen, you know, like social abnormal things like that that are little consequence, but like weird pranks, like, you go to the grocery store and you just someone has a cart half full of shit, and you just take their car, push it around like they leaving it.
They just want to get it. And then as soon as they confront you, you just walk away from it. Or as soon as this guy confronts you, you take off the shirt, just hand it to him. You keep walking. Yeah, yeah. That's the first thing about the cart, you know, like, this is my cart and you act like a, like, all whacked out, like you're schizo.
You know, just to see if they're brave enough to push the issue or, I mean, or you walk. You got a lot of options here either way. Oh, yeah. You have so many creative options. Yeah. What to do with that? Psychology, that psychological nuance. Right. You'd be like, but I just really love everything that you picked. You're so good at picking groceries.
So much better than me. I think that's a five. Please have the cart. Yeah. It's like you've put I know much thought into this and I respect it. I can see like 50 meals here. Like you're awesome at this. Please, can I just have this cart, please? I never would have thought to get this arrangement of things.
I've been, like, really? Like, carrying you like. God. It's not hostile architecture. It's a full bench without somebody thinking. I go figure. Yeah. So, most getaway cars are so, you know, imagine, like, the psychology of that. You get some carrying, like, you know, really being a jerk about it, you know? Yeah. And then you're like, you're like, holding her back at bay, right?
You're like, let me at least get a picture of it. So I go get. So you'll get the same weight of.
Me oh, yeah. You end up with two really blurry pictures. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A picture of Karen swiping at you. Yeah. The camera. Yeah, yeah. And then like, you know, she gets it and you show her you're like look different. You come out good and like cheap. Try to take another one. Just harassing this Karen in the grocery store.
And of course you have somebody filming the whole thing, you know, for your tick tock, tick tock, Joe. There we go. So. Yo, is that the proper parlance? Do you say tick tock channel? Do you say. I mean, no, I don't think so. I think my tick tock. I don't like to say channel, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I'm woefully out of touch. I'll have to ask the kids.
That's another thing too, is that video, and short video clips are like the engaging platform right now. You know, like attention span, they're saying. But like, when you look at the stats, you know, a website and a podcast don't really get a lot of traction these days. But there's like so many you're like in the sea of a billion.
True. But these like really shorts on TikTok. Yeah. That's where people are spending entertainment time. That's why we're trying to make shorts, snippets of pithy shit for you guys to consume you to like, wear some kind of video harness rig, you know, and then just like, put, pick out highlight reels and put it on TikTok and then TikTok and then we'll be, you know, then we'll get huge, which could carry over to our, you know, podcasts, right?
Yes, yes, it can supplement or it could give our podcast a bump. Oh, yes. Of course. You know, the idea that someone would actually take a second to listen to anything that we had to say on a TikTok. Right? If it's not a chick, young chick twerking, you know? Right. Hey, maybe we can have young chicks talking in the background.
Now you're talking. Yeah. So, I hope no one steals this idea because it's something I never want to do. I want to put together. You guys have all signed a virtual NDA. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's right. But look at this podcast. You agree to. It's still. Shit. Okay. Yeah. That's legally that's is legally binding is like clicking okay on a website.
Right? Right. Which is a joke, but true. Like clicking okay on a website has some legal. Yeah. Like really awesome. Yeah, man. Like the end user license agreement on a piece of software is like, has actual teeth, right? Right. But, I mean, hence the business software association in the 80s and 90s really crawled up some businesses asses and sued the hell out of it.
Yeah. Microsoft. Yeah, it's it's really interesting. And you have Microsoft, like the what is it called, not the Bios. Now it's like the IBM whatever. What's it called. Yeah. If I, if I, I Extensible Firmware Interface. Yeah. That is for the secure boot which is like required for Windows 11 and stuff for other things like some games and stuff required.
Damn. Actually is bound to a key. And so like, you can't just go ahead and drop Linux on that. Do you know about that? So now they do you know about that? Yeah. It's TPM trusted. Yes. Trusted platform management. Management. Yeah. Yep. And they, they have figured that. So there's a key for major distributions now.
Right. It had. Yeah. And so you could put Linux on it if you add your key. Right, which you got to add your key which is, which is which is Microsoft, which Microsoft has a hand in. Right. Microsoft has has a part ownership of the signing bodies. The great scheme. Isn't that weird? Isn't it? That's really weird.
And, from what I understand, like when you compile software, like those things, those, those different hardware artifacts get into the compilation. Really? Yeah. So like, so there's a there's a fingerprint. There's a fingerprint. That's right. So if you make some worm or Trojan or whatever, they can trace it back. Yes. Oh now you're saying on the be no more the whatsoever I love you virus from from handcrafted.
VB script or VBA visual application. Yeah. So like you can argue you know both ways on that, right. That's really easy to argue either either side I could I can take any I can take the other side of that argument. Right. Well it's just like with printers, you know, there's those unique invisible watermarks. Yeah. On the high resolution code laser printers.
Yes. So if you print hundreds. Yeah, it start pouring out $100 bills. They can tell what Ferrari came from, right, right, right. Yeah. And it's like, you know, there's like I said, I can argue both ways on that. Yeah. I mean, all right, I understand the need to curb fraud and trace things back and all that I do, but it's just it's scary.
It's, gets Big Brother awfully quick, you know? And then at the same time, you know, you have that old age, old argument of if you don't do anything to hide, what are you worried about? You know, sci fi idea. But that's a dumb ass argument. I think so, but I think so. That's not that's not the answer to privacy.
Yeah. And, I have my own age old argument, which is privacy doesn't matter until it does. And so thereby it should always matter. Right. Thereby. That's right. Privacy doesn't matter until it does. And then when it really comes down to it, when when privacy does matter, boy, you can have some. If you're on the wrong side of that, you can be automatically grouped into, you know, a group of people that you don't want to be convincer.
Right? Because I mean, for the most part, you know, the society at large isn't going to notice this slow creep to stealing everything and eroding your privacy. You know, for all intents and purposes, you wake up one day and you're in Cuba, you know? Yeah. So what I say, it doesn't matter until it does. I give a quick example.
You have a major, environmental catastrophe, right? And all of a sudden there's a massive resource pinch. And really rapid decisions have have to be made on who gets what resources. Yeah. Right. Sean happens to be on a domestic terrorist watch list because you made a piece of software experimenting, right? Trying to create an antivirus. What's right. Sure.
And maybe I made a worm that went through and secured things. Yeah. Or something. Right. You're like cutting edge computer science trying to figure some shit out and learn. Sure. And fingerprints on this thing. We got out of the lab and fucked some shit up. Some damage. Yeah. Now you and your family are marked flagged? Yeah. This wouldn't matter normally in anything, but then in some kind of crisis.
Right? Some type of crisis in the country, you might now have a freak flag. You might have a flag on your record. Yeah, right. That pre-select you and works against you. Right. So privacy doesn't matter till it does. Yeah. And I'm the classic example of that is rounding up the Japanese off the census data in the internment camps in World War two.
Right. The census data was never supposed to be used for that purpose. It was in law that it could not be used for that purpose. Guess what? Pearl Harbor happened. Yep. And okay, it was changing those rules. And they use the census data to locate and get the address of every person. And Japanese black bag, every one of them.
Yeah. This room literally in concentration camps you call them internment camps is in some ways bad right. But it's a concentration camp. And you know, that's for someone with ADHD going to a concentration camp. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Dad. Joke. Love it. They wouldn't do well. No, they wouldn't. The focus, the thrust of the camp is just at odds with their biology.
Just better make sure they have their meds. Yeah, let's put it that way. Yeah. Jeez, man, if you are, it rounded up large swaths of the population. Now, think of all the meds you have to take to make it available just to keep people. Okay. There's an kill. There's another thing right there. People that need meds are flagged because there's a resource crunch.
You got to go. There's a resource crunch, right? Like so some major catastrophe like the Yellowstone, you know, supervolcano goes off right. And holy shit, there's global food production is down to 1%. Oh, shit. Right. Yeah. And the carrying capacity of the Earth just went to 1 billion people. God, do you have not just an environmental crisis. You have the the largest proportional humanitarian crisis ever.
You know, to hit mankind. Yeah. Because you, you know, 6/7 of the world can't easily be supported. And you have like an, an ice age coming, you know, and yes, humanity will most likely survive, but you most likely are going to have full scale World War three because, you know, battling over the remaining food and resources necessary to sustain life right?
Which again, is like an outside justification for for the US military, who right, in the event the shit hits the fan, do you want to do you want to be the country that has the is the only superpower left in the world? Do you want to be the country that's defensive? Yeah, yeah. And you have wheat fields, right?
You know, in the in the in the band of the, Earth that can still sustain crops hopefully. Yeah. Guess what? You don't have a much longer. Yeah. Someone's going to go take the, so, you know, when you, when you come up with these hypothetical imaginative doomsday scenarios, you definitely want to beat the country with the big army.
You do, because that enables you some mobility and, some time to plan and further fortify. There you go. Just gives you more options. Yes. Right. And, yeah, it's. But when with the lack of those hypotheticals, when you run the statistical analysis and you say, what's the odds of these things happening? And they're close to zero, then now all of a sudden you can't justify an okay, you know, you can always do a what if.
Yeah, you can. And I would agree with you that a lot of these massive bloodsucking institutions, they are predicated upon what if. Absolutely. Yeah. You know, luck favors the prepared idea. And, you know, like, you know, readiness is, is, some other there's some other slogan, but the basic idea is like, you know, be prepared for everything, and you have the highest chance of being the one that comes out ahead.
Yeah. You know, literally luck favors the prepared. And, the question is, how far do you go with that preparedness? Right. How far do you go into, like, doomsday prepping to where too much of your budget is now extracted from? You know, you have no 401 K because you've gone overboard on your doomsday prep. You know, you're fucking oh yeah, you're out in Texas, which, you know, underground bunker, which is absorbs the majority of your resources.
Yeah, right. Some dude sleeping over there or something. That's weird, but it is a pile of stuff. It's a pile of junk. Yeah, it does, it does. The problem with, like, someone grab something that's to sift through it and just left it there when they found there was nothing or something like that. Yeah, it's. And and another bridge has something similar that we came across.
So we are right. Pieces of trash on how weird. Oh, I guess, Charlotte for one one is going to be active in this, Greenway whatever this Greenway. 12. Oh, McDowell. Something out of. Yeah. What does it matter? What's in the name? The Greenway. Yeah. So, doomsday prepping and these ideas when, there's also this other factor, too, right.
Let's say that you got your, your, your family ready for the worst. Like for the zombie apocalypse, right? Right. You got these bug out bags you've done, like, drills and shit with your family. Yeah, right. And you're thinking is like, oh, if something really major happens, I'll be best prepared, right? Yeah. Got your little bunker, your secondary thing.
You got doomsday prepper. Come and gives you a high score for your prep, prepping, right? Oh, shit. All this kind of shit. You've had a couple of. You try to tell me there's businesses that will grade my preparedness. Yes. And TV shows you they'll do it right. Doom. Same reverse. Yeah. So it's a TV show? Wow. Yeah. They give a scorecard to the overall level of, prep preparedness.
They give me, like, a -27 or something. That's funny. So you're taking your family through these drills, like you're teaching your kids how to, how to live off of mealworms and. Yeah, you know, like, all this, like, hard core shit and, never stopping to think about what level of fear and anxiety am I putting in my kids.
When you think about that, your kids are now having their imagination polluted with this, correct? That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. And so let's squirt the whole operation on that. Like, how did that how does how does how does the actual child feel about, what what are the emotional and physiological effects happening to this child? Who is that constantly thinking about having a bug out when nothing doesn't happen, and your child has to be an adult and determine their own philosophy?
How much of an impact does it have on that? Yeah. Could it potentially be negatively life changing? Abstract? God damn. I don't think you can argue otherwise. So that that may be might should be going into the calculus. You know, how much how much of fear and anxiety and negative life changing things are you doing here. And, you know, so you have to consider the psychological aspect, like telling the kids, hey, you know what?
We're doing this just and just in case, but there's really almost no chance of something happening. Yeah. Because otherwise you're curtailing their ability to operate in society at large. Yeah. And you tell your kids that not we're doing this for the for the really rare chance that something major does happen. Right. But we're also doing it as a family bonding exercise.
True. Like we're going to put together right? Right. So that should be included in the calculus of the score card for the doomsday prep. Yeah. You know, are you are you creating a balance in your kid's psychology, you know. Right. So they're not afraid of the zombie apocalypse every day in their life, right? So that everything's not over overly weighted toward that so that their mind and vision is not occluded by this ever present thing.
That is not going to happen. Yeah. That's right. And and the people that are prepping the kids for the school shootings during the school drills, school, shooting exercises and drills should be using the same type of psychology. So the kids look, statistically, this isn't going to happen, but right. We should be prepared on the off chance it does.
Right. And then say, especially in our school, the chances of this because we have, you know, a great school, good family bond here amongst you know, everybody. And yeah, you talk about the positive psychology of your school and saying, but the state wants everybody, all the kids to be paired, you know, just in case scenario. Yeah. So let's figure out how to go through this together.
Yeah. Right. Kind of attitude. And then include that in the calculus of your efficacy. And you add your program. You add more things like a culture of see something, say something, you know, etc.. Yeah. All all predicated on the positive, you know, constructive build up of your of what you're doing right? Not the not the opposite, not the terror of it.
Yeah. And that's it. So that's an important thing. Morning. Yeah I think you said something. Yeah. You're. Yeah yeah yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Is it that primal caveman or before he goes to his desk for 12 hours? Hey, a lot of these joggers look pretty fit, man. They're good shit. I mean, yeah, so jogging is, working out for that?
Dude was older. I'd say he's older versus. Yeah, and he was in damn good shape. Yeah. Feel, kind of jealous. I should be jogging right? I don't have to re like a super jogger. And so would you, because you have to try to do this while jogging. Oh, my God. We get out of breath and walking up a fucking hill.
Yeah. Let alone jogging or it. Well, maybe we should, keep it, but, you know, as far as we're about to jog, like 100 yards. Yeah, yeah, we'll be back. We'll be back. We'll come back. Back? We're back. I think I'm dying. I think I'm dying. You are for my fuck. So my wife, I love her, okay.
Gas. Dying. Oh, you tell her yourself, man. We're gonna fucking make America. We're gonna get through this. People are walking by. What the hell? Or or people have seen us enough now. Like. Oh, they tried jogging. Yeah, yeah. It's like, It's like, honey, I predicted it. Those fuckers. We're gonna try it. They're gonna try it one day.
And, I was there for it. No, I got it for my TikTok. Yeah, exactly. I got them dying for my TikTok. Yeah. What? What are they? Get a what, incendiary title or would they give it, like, middle aged flab Webster's, decide running is a good idea, I don't know. Yeah. Check out this aptly named podcast.
Keyword from positive pedestrian to negative, cardio or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Negatively cardio. Yeah. Negative. For a cardio or something. You know, tolerate polar opposite to what we're trying to do. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Like I don't know slothful lifestyle podcast. Yeah. You know, middle aged white men gone wild.
Oh. So funny. Speaking of that. Oh, my roommate and I, we went to middle aged Man Gone Wild last night. We went to, Super Avari, the local hipster Mecca. Made a pilgrimage. All right. And, in essence, we were there to the late, late hour of ten, 15 Jewish. Wow. Like, wow. Breaking out for a Tuesday night, right?
Yeah. It was the bartender, like, you know, you guys want to switch to Coca-Cola? No. We only had one beer apiece and a shop. You're. I idea that we kept it sensibly. Okay, okay. Did you drive or walk? Walked. Okay. See? Thoroughly middle aged men gone wild. So did your liver. Convert the alcohol through the walking into some kind of drug?
Yeah, I made you want it, right? Not that I know, but possibly. Why is the dog acting funny?
So I gotta tell dirty joke then, right? Yeah. So, this guy's, got divorced recently sitting at the bar. He's, like, crying into his beer, and this lady takes note of him. Let's go. Sits by him on the stool at the bar and says, you know, hey, you know, hey. Hey, handsome. Why the long face? You know what they say?
He's like, you know, I don't want to talk sick. No, no, no, come on, talk to me. Talk to me. I'm great. I'm a good listener. What's going on? So finally breaks down. You see, my wife left me. Yeah. She goes really? What happened? He goes, well, I'm embarrassed to say this, but I'll just tell you why not.
Yeah. I'm a sexual deviant. Oh, shit. And, I was always pushing the envelope and just. She just asked me to dial it back, and I just couldn't. It's in my nature, right? So I kept pushing and pushing it, and she just had enough, and she just said, enough is enough. And she drew a line, and she gave me the divorce papers and really hurt me.
I love this lady. Right? Really hurt me. And she goes, well, today's your lucky tonight. Your lucky night, What's that? And goes, why is that? She goes, well, I'm happy to be a sexual deviant as well. Oh, I don't think you can push the limits far enough on me. Oh, guy perks right up and he's like, really?
Finish off this beer real quick. Says, let's get out of here. So they're going through the parking lot on each other, pulling hair, biting lips and shit, right? Yeah. Smacking each other, getting all dirty. Mr. Prelude. Yep. Push, push, push her into the car. Right. Yeah. My place are yours. You know, she goes. How about my plates, big boy?
All right. Oh, right in the car. They're doing all the dirty shit in the car. They get to the door, leave a freaking trail of clothes at the door. Right. And, she she tells them, you wait right here, I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna rock your world. All right? So she goes in the back room. She's in there for a few minutes.
She comes out all leathered up, you know? All right, cracking a whip zipper man down. The guys walking out the door. Oh, shit. Oh, she's like, what's going on? I thought you said you're into this kind of stuff. What are you doing? He goes, bitch, you took too long. I already fuck your cat twice and shit in your purse.
That's fucked up. Yeah. The perils of, trying to caught a middle aged, sexual deviant. He's. Yeah. You gotta know what you get into. Yeah, he's. Well, he's got he's got it. He's on the timetable. Yeah. I think that she understands the premise of the divorce. It's right. Don't. Damn. I mean, not only does it need too much analysis, you know, not only this motherfucker is sexual deviant, he is a minute by, by definition, is like, straight to it.
And even as you can possibly fathom. Right? Yeah. Yeah. He just he looks around. What can I do? These are shit on this woman's checkbook. And put a dick in a cat butt twice. Once. He is a true deviant. She. You know what she is. Really get into, I mean, like, this guy, like, can actually hold a candle to, like, the scoutmaster.
Oh, here we go. Good segue. Or the, or the, Or the or the passive. The priest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The celibate, quote unquote priest. Right, right, right. You know, there's something wrong. Whenever an entire group of people declares themselves is, outside of the normal need for sex. Yeah, let's let's take you and put you. You make you take an oath to be something that completely contrary to your nature as a human being, right?
I mean, expect good results, because if you think about it, the only reason you were here is because someone dared to have sex. That's right, that's right, that's right. And this idea of, like, some man, you know, that's wrapped up in this ideology, taking an oath of celibacy and expecting that to go well, is is like the equivalent of not background checking.
Like with the deepest level of background check you possibly can for someone that's going to have, you know, in a tent access to a bunch of young boys, right? You're setting yourself up for two derivatives of the same set up for failure. You are. And this whole celibacy thing is really based on. As far as I understand it, hatred or, misclassification as women, as the wellspring of evil, I guess, yeah.
There'd be a foundation parallel there. Yeah. Well, Saint Augustine temptress. Yeah. Nothing but temptress. Exactly. Saint Augustine that, you know, spoke of these things and advocated for the celibacy. He was a, he alternated between being a womanizer and a woman hater. I heard this thing like, I don't know if it's true or not, but I heard this funny story, like, with this one monk monastery, the the, I don't know the name of the head monk or whatever you call it, but the leader of the monastery and I welcome correction there if I'm wrong.
Yeah, right. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's the human brain. It's going to put together an associative way unique to each person's individual experiences, trying to recount something with complete clarity and accuracy. When you're telling a story on a podcast, walking around at 6:00 in the morning is, close to zero, that your accuracy is going to be like, you know, 100%.
Right? So we have we didn't research this beforehand. Okay. Right. Yeah. We have this sort of like organic, path. Right. Like by default, the way a brain, human brain works physiologically, right, we automatically get a pass on not getting every fact that we say perfectly right. Yes. So, and we're not running for office, so fuck it.
Right. So anyway, the story goes where the idea was. The main monk, the leader of the thing decided that what he would do to keep the monks from to, to keep their celibacy if he basically worked them to death, like he'd work them so hard that by the end of the day, they would just like, pass out, exhausted.
Wow. They would have no energy left for coitus for. Right? So no. No deviancy, no sin. Yeah. Like we're sinless by default because we have no energy to commit him. Yeah. Like too tired to masturbate you know type. Yeah. Right. And so you know that was the idea. And so like he put them all on this incredibly regimented work schedule tending the crops and construction and, you know, just everyone was working working, working, working.
Just an improvement. Right. So try to keep them pure. Right. All right. So then later on they, they did an archeological survey of this, of this site, right where they had these people, where they had the monastery morning, morning, morning. And they, they did this archeological, you know, survey of the site. And they found a secret tunnel almost a mile long to the convent that was nearby.
So, like he built up their stamina for work so much, they built an underground tunnel to get some get some booty. Oh, that's that's beautiful. That's what I mean. I'm just saying. Oh, and if your life finds a way. So to send them it. Right. Yeah. And they might be one in the same. Yeah. Now, now we're advocating for the Church of Satan again.
Right. So indirectly invariably like not I'm not trying to you we're now plugging the Church of Satan. Yeah. Do you happen to know, the, website? You know, but I can look it up in the language. If people want to visit the Church of Satan, we'll include the link. Is there like an official Church of Satan?
There is, there is like, there's like one that stands out as the actual one. I believe it was founded by Anton Levey. That's the bald headed, wacky looking at. Yeah. That just, like, fits the mold perfectly. Oh, yeah. Creepy. He's like a card carrying member of the Church of Satan. You know, it's like you look at that guy, you're like, you're a Satanist.
And ironically, you probably never touched a child. I mean, more than likely, I'd say most of the Satanist are, probably more pure of heart and, easier to get along with in most, well, like, by not swearing a celibacy. Right. He's able to at this leaders, this church obviously kind of broker lots of, attention. Yeah.
And probably had all the booty he wanted. You have any kind of, like, strange, right? Derivative impulse to molest. Right. He was able to explore his deviance with like minded partners. Interesting. So, like indulging in a certain amount of natural. Right? Yeah. To stay off, you know, otherwise something that can emerge as a really deviant, sinful behavior is really interesting.
Well, yeah. Having a it's it's like having a it's almost like grounding yourself. It's it, I mean, you you because you have an outlet indulge in a certain amount of like what society would view as sinful behavior in order to stay off massive like extreme simple behavior. Yeah, yeah. Keep this guy from being a serial killer. I've always said your vices help keep you safe.
You know? Yeah. When you walk over a footbridge and you feel it, like bobbing up and down, it's like a good bridge because it's designed to absorb. Right? All right. But, Okay, I don't care. So it is it is to some degree dissembling profiles. And you're 50 yards from the bottom. Yeah. My footfalls shouldn't make an appreciable impact on a concrete bridge.
Right. And we're not, like, marching in, you know? Yeah, the whole thing. Like foot soldiers not not able to march over a bridge because of the collapse type idea. Oh, because of the resonance. Yeah, yeah. So, like when they tell soldiers when walking over bridges not to march in unison because, wow, they could accidentally hit the right frequency and, help out the enemy camp and take yourself out.
I never thought about that. Well, yeah. Yeah. Like you've seen that footage of that bridge that was hitting the certain wind pattern. Oh, yeah, it was dancing all over the place. So resonance is a pretty interesting thing. Supposedly, Nikola Tesla put a, small resonant device on one of the I-beams in the apartment complex he lived in.
And, like, caused a local earthquake. Really? Yeah. Because you just put the set, the oscillating resonator to the frequency. Natural frequency of the of the building. And so the top of the building started swaying back and forth in resonance. The next thing you know, all that hardened material is now starting to tremble right? And you're talking about tons and tons and tons of weight trembling.
Yeah. That's going to create a local earthquake, right? I'm telling you, he was such a he was a showman. He was, man of he, he didn't have any qualms most of the time with doing an experiment that just might go completely wrong. And we had burned down an entire town in Russia from what I gather, trying to broadcast power wirelessly.
Yeah, all kinds of, like, strange experiments with that, with wireless transmission of energy. Yeah. Which we can do. Well, if we do on a small scale. Now, to charge our phones or our TVs, there's microwave, radiation and microwave transmission going across major distances. Yeah, they're high energy, right? High energy microwave transmission. It's, high bandwidth link that you can get between buildings if you want to do.
Yeah. It's, you know, I think there's, there's some interesting things in play, and then you get people to take that really extreme and they say, oh, like the pyramid was a was a resonating, you know, what is it, the, effect where you have water, the effect where you have water running over different materials, creating an electrical charge.
Okay. That's called okay, I forgot the exact terminology for that. But it's like the idea was that there's a aquifer underneath the Great Pyramids in Giza. Right. And, the Great Pyramids, and there's the aquifer underneath. It's like piezo electric or something. Okay. Yeah. Actually coming up and creating the whole architecture of it, creating or being a resonance chamber, which then amplifies sound waves of all things right up in the King's chamber, creating a resonance in the crystalline structure of the.
Okay. So this resonance puts pressure on that crystalline structure and creates electricity. Yeah. You know, the right you know, the, the in the King's chamber, they have all those like, really huge megalithic slabs of granite. Like that was the final resonance chamber, which then turned the whole thing into intellectual generator. That makes it interesting.
And it was like, literally could beam the electricity into the into the atmosphere. God. For use globally. Because the whole idea was these pyramids were they're aligned toward a particular constellation, I believe. Yeah. Something like the belt in Orion's belt or something. Yeah. And, so and another theory was that they were charging up so similar to what you're saying, due to their celestial alignment.
Yeah, I, I love those, like, those long shafts that are, that are drilled. Everybody like a long shaft. Yeah. That that's it's drilling. So, so like they have those like really precise like long shafts. They're going to the Queen's chamber. Yeah. That's crazy. Like, you know, they're too small for a human to be in there and chiseling it away.
So it's like, was it, was it constructed while it was being built? Right. And if that was the case, that's crazy. It is crazy. And then like, crazy precise engineering. And then on top of that, there's rooms that have never been explored like there is. They've used ground penetrating radar to, locate rooms underneath the Sphinx that have never been seen.
Yeah, I think that that's, like, really, really terrible that, you know, modern science doesn't go in there and, like, figure all this shit out, like, because not just cause it's a mystery, but, like, there's probably something we can learn and that's it. Why not? Gosh. I as a child, I lament when I heard about the Library of Alexandria being burned in some other things element to this loss of knowledge.
Right. And I mean, it's another case of that it's maybe we can go back with modern science and figure out what was the point if there was one. Yeah. Other than monumental. Yeah. Why do you like it together. Exactly. Other than maybe monumental mobilization of society and creating your own economy. There had to be another point. I mean, just just the injury value alone is is worth it, you know?
Right. I mean, stretch of the imagination also have a greater appreciation for our ancestors and the idea that they thought differently about certain ideas, you know? Yes, because they didn't think like we do in modern times. And their base of knowledge was different. And where they came, how they arrived. Yeah, it was different. And it was attenuated by like we said before, their religion and philosophy.
Yeah, it's really interesting idea. Like when you have authors contributing ideas in the form of scrolls and, you know, going out in nature and doing research and, you know, bringing that research to a central hub, there's a certain amount of purity in that. There's like, you know, all that different from someone just being able to make misinformation on the internet today.
It really is. There's and even today, when there's a book involved, research effort went into this. And so it has a certain a book. It's totally different than a link. Yeah. A book has it's imbued with a certain okay, maybe this has a greater basis and truth sort of like and the authors put their name on it. Yeah, exactly.
You've associated yourself with this. In essence, you've staked your reputation upon it. Yeah. So like a university professor that's been, you know, researching a topic for who knows how many years. Yeah, a couple decades. Yeah. Right. Goes, goes ahead and and puts out a full book about on the culmination of of their knowledge on this topic with their name on it.
Yeah. It's probably more likely to not be a source of misinformation, right, than, you know, what some soccer mom wrote on the internet about vaccine. Yeah, it's it's probably the closest that we could get with modern science and investigative capabilities to truth. Right. But then where is the consumption? Right. The majority of the consumption is in what the soccer mom wrote, you know, on vaccines.
Right. But but then there are people like you and I can say dead tree is for me. You know, that's that's where I try to get, the bulk of my information because, you know, in a book let you do a slow, deep dive into a topic. More contemplation. Yeah, but that's like that is that is true.
And there are people that indulge in that and people that take that stuff in, and they represent a small percentage of society and not the not the percentage. You know, if you're in a democracy and the majority, you know, it has the tyranny of the tyranny, the majority. Yeah. The the belief structure of the majority is the governing agent.
So I profoundly appreciate the idea of trying to get accurate information into your brain and having the intrigue in it. But I also want to say, I think articles online and things like that still have their own place. Like if I'm going to learn about a topic and I need an overview, I'm gonna go online. Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe like even a Wikipedia. Yeah. You know, because there's a lot of times references at the bottom that you could like get the sources pretty quick through. And you know they're fairly well vetted. Yeah. Like and so if you go to a Wikipedia article and just kind of get skim, skim the, the topic there and then roll down to the bottom and open up a few of the credible sources.
And I know a lot of teachers would or librarians would combat us fiercely on that. Well, they're stupid because they're wrong because it's the same at the bottom. A lot of times it's the same peer reviewed things they're citing. Right. Which is why I would go to Wikipedia first, steal the sources. There you go. And I'm talking about, you know, exactly what I'm talking about.
Why why would you deny that that fast, you know, approach? It's funny because like everybody, you know, every spider wants you to be in their web, you know, it's like everybody wants you to go into their domain that that they believe in. And the nice thing about technology and, the means of production being more in our wheelhouse is rather than just a typewriter, we can do all kinds of crazy desktop publishing type things, and we can include our sources.
We can hide. Wasn't it Einstein that said, genius, hides their sources or something to that effect? I wouldn't be surprised, but it makes sense. I can say that, in essence, we can do that. You and I could go to all these unapproved places and pick the, wheat from the chaff by ourselves, and no one would know.
Yeah. And then let's let's be honest to you about scientific research that you wrote. Did you hear about that big study that was done on the accuracy and the, of the different scientific, press releases? No, there's this big, gosh, I wish I could rightfully recall it to be useful, but I can I can paraphrase what's happening so this group or person or group of people went ahead and did like an actual study of how many scientific papers that were released through all these different channels that are considered credible.
Yeah. And tried to reproduce the experiments based on the, the, the document. Okay. Right. Finding out that that the repeatability and the accuracy of the results reported were misappropriated all over the place now. So in other words, it's some kind of, is it born out of the need to publish that and the Grant mill idea, so the research universities like you and CC.
Yeah. And it might be, oh, I might mit you and CC, anything that builds itself research universities right at MIT becomes a grant mill. And all they're doing is putting out hide, to get the next grant. Yeah. Because and and drawing on the reputation of MIT. Right, right. And putting out just nonsense. Right. That anybody would like a basic science understanding would recognize it.
That's ridiculous. But it sounds cool and looks cool. Yeah. For example, artificial bees that are drones, like drones that are artificial bees to replace the, the, loss of bees on farms. Oh, right. That sounds awful. So the idea of, like, somebody pulls up with an army of these micro drones and these microbes, young drones go out and pollinate the crops.
Yeah, right. Well, if you know anything about the if you know anything about, like, literally anything if you know anything about drones and how the, how they work, they maintain how the batteries work. Like if you if you know anything about all that, there's no way you're going to go near a delicate flower and brush some appendage over it and effectively pollinate that field, that's just ridiculous, because the the sensitivity of the actuators of these things are probably going to it's not high enough to destroy, and they would destroy the flower most likely.
That's what I'm talking about. It's just going to blow the flower stem away out of the range of the, of the, of the little stem that's supposed to be swiping the pollen. Yeah. Are you kidding me? And a thousand other technical problems. Yeah, right. That you're way more likely better off to, like, have, a tractor trailer filled with beehives come up in the sides open, and then they fly out in the field and pollinate.
Yeah. And which is what they do affect what they do effectively now. Exactly. So and there's other pollinators like mosquitoes are pollinators. There we go. Any insect that visits a flower, there's a pollinate directly or the potential pollinator. There you go. And so now I'm not saying that we should have mosquitoes, you know, like, grow mosquitoes near fields, but yeah, yeah, you know that.
But that's still a better choice than these dumb ass drone idea. But guess what? Guess what? MIT or whatever the research, you know, they're they're putting this to the major press organizations. The press organizations are running. It's a free story, right? Right. Putting that shit out. And then they use that as a as a grip mill stream channel.
Right. Right there. Like this has been established as, research that we can get people like, in Epstein to pay him to do. Yeah. Right. Exactly. And so what they become is they become a pseudo scientific agency putting out fake science. Junk science? Yeah, because it's all paying homage to the to the grant mill. Yeah. Fuck that.
That's not that's not a science. And you know, but they're, they're really glomming on to society's needs because the second. Sure. Right. And then you have this whole thing like, you know, the the Milky Way galaxy is 200,000 light years across, right? It is the diameter. And then, oh, it's been revised. It's 100,000 light years. And it's like, how did we end up with orders of magnitude difference?
Okay, first of all, who's going to be able to check that. True. Right. It's not like we can get a rangefinder from, Home Depot. Oh, yeah. And you need 100,000, oh, 50,000 years if you're somewhere in the middle to get the data from both ends to verify. Assuming you're kidding me, come up with a way to get it.
You're you're acting on. Okay, so we're, like, in our little place in the in the in the Milky Way galaxy, supposedly. Right. Yeah. We're like, in one of the spiral arms. You know, like you are here type of image. Right? Right. Every image of the Milky Way. It's just been an artist's rendition. Yes. Because you need a couple hundred thousand light years to get something out.
Far enough to take the picture. So what everyone has cemented in their mind as what the Milky Way looks like is really just our best guess. Yeah, it's just an artist's rendition, right? Yeah. And said artist may have not faced may have only loosely based on their drawing on science or like. Point your telescope over here. There's a spiral galaxy.
That must be what ours looks like. And okay, that's that's, better guess. And I thought they would have done. Yeah. Or, you know, you see all these different shapes of galaxies, right? And nebulas. And then you but assume that we're in a spiral. There we go. Right. So like every single data point that we have is co-located on the scale of, of cosmic scale, right.
So like Voyager one. Voyager two. Yeah, they've gone quite a bit, quite a ways away. But quite a ways away to us. But on a, you know, galactic level, time scale, time scale and level, they're relativistic co-located. Yeah. Right. So we don't actually have a co-located frame of reference. That's that's reasonable in the scale to make any kind of genuine observation true.
So the bottom line is it's all theoretical. Nothing but theoretical. Oh yeah. And you know, it comes back to that embracing the unknown. There you go. Yeah. We're back to the I don't know idea. Yeah. And to say let's not say it's 200,000 light years across or 100,000 leagues across. We just say it's our best estimate. Now, let's just say we don't know.
Well, still, there may be situations where we need to plug in this number and say, okay, I told you I'm against that. So like the idea here is that I'll tell you why, right? It's because when you say it's 200,000 light years across, our best estimate is 200,000 light years across. People expect because the faith and trust they have in science.
Right, that there's some type of like degree of accuracy there. Yeah. And okay, the truth is I don't know. But this is our best guess. Neither of us have really looked into what they did to determine the best guess. I don't need to shine. I know based on the data and based on the, the model. But I guess what, 200,000 and come back and say 100,000.
It's 100% margin of error, right? Right. But that's what I'm trying to say is, maybe the second people who came back have a more, you know, 50% margin of error. But yeah, fit, you know, but maybe they have a if they have a more sound method of determining than the first estimate, why have their faith? I'm not saying we have to have the faith.
I'm saying if we remember we wanted to use this number or count on this number, right. We would investigate what the method of determination was. Okay. But I, I, nor you or anybody else has the time to go back. And and I also fact check everything that you hear. I also don't have the skill to fact check most things, but the data the evidence suggests.
Okay. Yeah. That when they come out with 200,000 light years across for the for our galaxy and then they come back a few years later that there's just it's 100,000 light years across, right. Yeah. We should then say okay, wait a minute. They don't know right. And they're just giving numbers because they have a faithful community of a pseudo scientist, right, that believe in, you know, pseudo science.
They have a bunch of people that that's a great fucking set up. It's yeah. They have a bunch of people. No offense to like you and I. Okay. That have been that have been, kind of, fed science throughout our lives. And we, we see science matching up with reality in many cases. And so we have a preference towards scientific information over mysticism or like psychic information and stuff like that.
Right? Yeah. So we have a natural confirmation bias and selector for scientific information. So in other words like some some paper from MIT automatically by default carries more weight in my mind and probably your mind than something that comes from, the Reiki School of, of aura reading. Right. Okay. Right. And so what we do is we said we then since we have that bias, that confirmation bias and that favoritism towards the scientific quote unquote, scientific one, we fall for whatever they say.
We take that in into our brain as information. Yeah. Right. Well, what I'm saying is that's a mistake. I mean, these these highlights really these things that we bring up on the podcast, these, you know, we, these things that are on our feed. Right? I'm saying it's a mistake to default science as credible. True. I mean, and there's data now showing that's what I was talking about.
This kind of a choice. We have. Oh that's that's thrown up your hands, you know. Oh you know what I'm saying is like big like you said, we don't have the resources, time, energy. To research all of these things. So we have to, to some degree accept some of it. So here's here's one that can't be the other day.
Quantum entanglement. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We were talking about they've been able to demonstrate over the course of like a meter distance that these two quantum particles are entangled. Yeah. A change in state of other instantly reflects across the room. Right. Okay. And so the mathematical model suggests that there's no limit to this. And potentially billions of light years away, the same particle could, you know, be entangled.
And that's that's it. We say potentially we say a mathematical model. Right, right, right. Which then you might as well just take on. Yeah, yeah. You might as well just take on the roles of said universe which in which we exist. Might as well just say God, God made it that way. Right. And that's the part that's not recognized.
That's what I'm saying. Right. That's really dangerous because you have a bunch of people that are pseudo scientists accepting from the scientific community a little stream of misinformation and bullshit that they have the agenda to create because of the money factor. But it's a I guess it's a I feel like it's a great nation of bullshit. It's a continuum of bullshit.
Not not all of it's harmful bullshit. And some of it will be corrected later or probably never make it into the science book. No, that doesn't make it the science book. That's the thing. I mean, we've talked about these things at university level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how dare you say that? It's bullshit. You know, you call that psych thing out.
I use that whole drone and flower thing as an example, because that was a real life example. Yeah, that came up in a college class I was in right. And in that college class I said, this is complete bullshit. Was this just a grant mill? That's what we should be talking about. That's the topic here. Not actually trying to analyze the pros and cons of this technology.
Right? You need to. We should be talking about the bullshit factor of it and how that bullshit factor comes to be. So we can avoid those trappings on our own so you can fix the situation. Exactly. You know, get it. Because it really does matter. It really has an appreciably negative impact on society for the sexy articles to be out there and for people to be assimilating them as knowledge.
That's right. So if you ask, you ask a majority of our friends, okay, did this poll survey, we have the means to do this will say. And we said, does dark matter exist? Okay. People are just going to say yes, you're going to get overwhelmingly. And I have don't even have a doubt. You're going to get overwhelmingly an affirmative response.
You're going to get probably 75% or more saying yes, for one, because everybody wants to join the cool club and say, yep, that's definitely real. Is there such a thing as dark matter? That's the question, right? Right. It's just the binary. Yes. No. And there is no such thing as dark matter. It's a term that somebody coined. It's true for gravitational presence in space that they don't have a way to account for.
It's to refer to this nothingness. It's to refer to this thing that we can't detect, detect. And just like I said before, when there's no evidence for something and you believe in it, that's called faith. There there's no evidence for the existence of dark matter, but there is something there. And it's convenient term to refer to it.
So you could argue you would say yes. And there's binary choice because you're like, oh, there's something there. Okay. Your intuition. Okay. Which is a real psychological known phenomenon. People have intuition. I'm sure you you're combining things on the fly, your experience, your knowledge, your understanding of things. So there's you have an intuition that there's more going on in your environment than what meets your senses.
Sure. Okay. And there absolutely is, because of what we see, animals can perceive that we can okay. So and then we can do things like turn on a thermal camera and see there's all kinds of data that we're not we can't take in in the sensory sense. Yeah. Right. And that's just eyes. Yeah. But we can feel the heat from the sun and we can, we could tell if we had our eyes closed and we're blindfolded.
We can tell you the direction. And some people have various, varying degrees of able of being able to see infrared. Some people can see farther into the red. There was, an experiment during World War two where they came up with, night vision goggles. They were grooming people who could see farther into the red. They were trying to train them.
There you go. Because you have a you have a gradation of human, range of sensory capabilities, right? Yeah. So take this in now. Right. You have this idea of like, intuition. There's knowledge that we all have intuitively that there's more to the reality that our senses correct. Okay. Now some people just take and they put they put God in that place.
Holder I know there's more there than I know. So God is the placeholder for that. Yeah. Okay. Well and they use this. And so I reject that I give it up. So I reject that idea because there's no evidence then just because there's a, there's this feeling that there's more to there than we can sense. Yeah. Doesn't then imply a god.
You see what I'm saying? Right. And if you do and play God from that you're taking it on faith. Well with the only evidence you have outside is that you have an intuition. There's more to life than what meets the eye. Well. Right. Well the people that believe in gray matter, I mean dark matter are doing the same thing, right?
They're taking from the pseudoscience community a concept, internalizing it as a real thing. You see what I'm saying? And then having faith that that it's real. But okay, you're you're talking about theoretical physicist being considered to a pseudoscience. Yes. Yes. I mean, yes, because they're they're human beings like you and I. And they put their pants on one leg at a time.
Well, yes, but theoretical physics is by its nature that kind of fluid. Well, here's our best guess. It's like that's that's the, like, your best guess. We got it. Because when you're in the domain of best guess, it's just subject to the imagination. It is subject to the imagination and therefore not science. It's a faith based thing that I know a lot of a lot of physics.
It was originally subject to the imagination until we could measure or define and winnow down. That's what the religious people are saying about God. That eventually we'll find said God also nurture a Christian one way or the other. I mean I have been one and come back. It's the last thing I'd ever do to somebody. But ultimately I guess what I'm trying to say is the Christian definition of God to me is though we're talking to omniscience.
They're, we're talking omnipresent, though we're talking about impotent is limiting. I feel like the universe is dark matter. Yeah. You're now putting pinning it to some idea that there's this thing. There you are. And instead of whether it's the plurality of options. That's right. Instead of embracing it as a pure unknown. Yeah. So I propose that counter theory.
Maybe it's living things that are interdimensional. That's just as plausible. Sure, because it's in the same domain as an unknown. So I can fill that with my imagination. Yeah. And it it fits all the high points that we understand about dark matter. And I can actually attribute a chain of causality in some scientific logic and reasoning to backing up that that imaginative idea.
And then you could take that idea further and you could say the things that are extra dimensional and, and, living might be spirits. There we go. And so I can create a religion in the gaps of knowledge. Yeah. And that's what all religions have done. It is it is. Right. And that's why they see science as a threat.
Because science starts to fill in those blanks of knowledge. Right. And then they hide the next gap and their, their domain becomes ever narrower. And they see that coming. Yeah. Right. So they're going to just take the easy route and just deny science. And then but science is making a huge collective mistake in the way that science is funded and operated by creating an incentive for junk science to get into the mainstream, which then provides anecdotal information for, you know, people that want deny it.
And ultimately, that's not science making the mistake that is science enterprise. Yeah, that's intuition of generating science. That is the that is the profit making entities at our universities. They want money. They and originally probably started out noble. Hey, we need money to teach. Hey we need money to propagate knowledge. Now it's hey, we can make sort of knowledge and make money.
There you go. So money maybe is the root of all evil in all of this information? Yeah. I mean, it's probably a lot, Robert. Money is the root of all these problems. It's probably a big driver. Maybe it's not everything, but it's probably. So our next class we talk about the barter system and we go back to talking about Boy Scouts and clergy.
We didn't get enough to talk about that. That's true. But, that's enough for today. We're like, over hours. Yeah. Good times.